[Photos,May be Ridiculous]SE knows nothing about Z&J's work - XPERIA X10 General

WHAT YOU GUYS WHO GAVE NEGATIVE COMMENTS HAVE DONE SO FAR?
AT LEAST I HAVE TRIED TO BE A 5-YEARS-OLD KIT TO TELL SE MY WISH.
Hi all,
Few days ago,I left a comment on the SE product blog,realating to the "8mb file" on the SE developers.com and a SE support engineer emailed me and it probably shows that SE KNOWS NOTHING OF OUR CUSTOM ROM??
Perhaps he is pretending.....
Here is the email and my reply and I am trying to persuade SE releasing the bootloader.
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Will update this post if he give me any further replies.
Cheers,
L(Speak_Now)
Edit:Rechecked the email and no part is missing.If you like these photos,just press the "Thank you" button.

Great. Those sony ericsson bestards have to give us froyo!

a2ha said:
Great. Those sony ericsson bestards have to give us froyo!
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by calling them bastards, you think you deserve it? I think not. -_-
anyway, laill, I'd advise you to stop wasting your efforts. They won't support hackers. I'd rather you send an email to EEG to bring Twins back =X

loneLEE said:
by calling them bastards, you think you deserve it? I think not. -_-
anyway, laill, I'd advise you to stop wasting your efforts. They won't support hackers. I'd rather you send an email to EEG to bring Twins back =X
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On behalf of some considerations ,it might be good for them to support devs cuz what z,j and other devs doing is ,in certain point of view,elongating the life span of their product,they can just save money to elongate the life by releasing the RSA key
regards,
L(Speak_Now)
Editersonally I will call z and j devs rather than hackers...

The only thing I need to be 100% happy with my X10 is the bootloader cracked to have a kernel which allows overclocking (at least for the moment I only need that xD)

Flo95 said:
The only thing I need to be 100% happy with my X10 is the bootloader cracked to have a kernel which allows overclocking (at least for the moment I only need that xD)
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+1
same here.

*sigh...and you'd expect them to give you a bootloader that contradicts company policy out of all that....good luck

Well he's definitely going to think twice about what he replies (if he even replies) now that you've posted his email for the whole world to see... you should have waited for his reply first

Ummm...you were sent an email because they thought you were a dev and wanted to give some light dev support; not read you rant about our gripes with SE. The enlarged bolded red font also makes you look like an immature idiot. Would it have killed you just to answer the questions?
Btw. TAKE OUT HIS FREAKING EMAIL ADDRESS. Seriously, wtf man.

Oh wow and not only that you specifically name people at xda developers andxda-developers as an entitt. that really makes us look mature so sony ericsson
Well done youve just helped this sight lose some of credibility

I'll be honest here, I wouldn't bother to answer your email if I were him. First of all your email shows the immaturity of your writing. Second of all, you are asking the wrong questions to the wrong guy. He is just a support engineer who took the time and tried to help you with your question ( the first one only ), he doesn't know about SE future plans, even if he does, do you think that he is stupid enough to give you answers so you can come here and expose them?
Come on get serious man

This is so stupid man... how old are you? like 5 yrs old? Come on..
Can somebody please delete this embarrassing thread!

+1 on the delete thread request. I see that the original poster has hidden his email address from the pictures of the email, but has not afforded the same courtesy to the SE Dev who was going out of his way to try to help.

skynet77 said:
This is so stupid man... how old are you? like 5 yrs old? Come on..
Can somebody please delete this embarrassing thread!
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I think a 5yo kid has more common sense than this guy.
and yes,delete this thread

kalel29 said:
I think a 5yo kid has more common sense than this guy.
and yes,delete this thread
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Fully, as a user in the community not even a dev of XDA, I'm embarrassed reading this.

will.m said:
Ummm...you were sent an email because they thought you were a dev and wanted to give some light dev support; not read you rant about our gripes with SE. The enlarged bolded red font also makes you look like an immature idiot. Would it have killed you just to answer the questions?
Btw. TAKE OUT HIS FREAKING EMAIL ADDRESS. Seriously, wtf man.
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If my word works,even the chance is small,I don't mind to be a immature idiot this time.
I know my words,especially the red words,look like words from 5 years old kid,but does it matter or what?
skynet77 said:
This is so stupid man... how old are you? like 5 yrs old? Come on..
Can somebody please delete this embarrassing thread!
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All I want, as SE's fan,is to get some information and to tell something SE reflecting some opinions here and really hope them can do better,NOT JUST FOR ARC BUT ALSO FOR X10.
Tell me your wish,DO YOU GUYS WANT THE BOOTLOADER?
WHAT YOU GUYS WHO GAVE NEGATIVE COMMENTS HAVE DONE SO FAR?
AT LEAST I HAVE TRIED TO BE A 5-YEARS-OLD KIT TO TELL SE MY WISH.
If you don't like it,fine.Originally I just want to share the news that they might not know what our devs are doing and all of you concern of my reply.

Like I told you, it won't work.
Anyway, for your future's sake, when you need to send a formal mail to make enquiries or requests from anyone, PLEASE USE YOUR REAL NAME. Anonymity using codenames/nicknames like Speak_Now won't let the other party take you seriously.
You're not a member of the X-Man. Nor from the Avengers. Neither are you from the Justice League. So use your real name.
Please don't be the next Edison Chen and embarras Hong Kong's name to the world again. -_-

I'm surprised this thread is still open.
Pilot usually closes every negative SE thread in record time.

laill said:
Tell me your wish,DO YOU GUYS WANT THE BOOTLOADER?
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Nope, I don't wanna hack my phone.
And my wish is for kids like you to be contented with 2.1 and stop all this nonsense.

You better work on your grammar if intend on getting into college. As for your hopes of this working...thanks to disrespectful immature pinheads moves like this, SE probably has adopted a "Never negotiate with terrorist policy". What was your intention when posting this? You didn't even wait for his answer. All I see here is a dumb kid trying to show off what little knowledge he has. Why would you attempt to embarrass this developer when his only mistake was having the professional courtesy to answer your question in the first place? I know what I'd do if I was him. I'd call your parents and ask them to teach you some manners.

Related

A little Elf bait

Not sure if this is the right forum, but I was wondering if anyone had seen LegolasTheElf. Trying to sort something out and I have not gotten a repsonse to my PM. He is usually prompt.
He got mad and left right after he got banned. Post your problem, I'm sure someone can help.
I think he's hanging out over at HTC-Devs.com
I've seen a few posts from him over there
Thanks Timtown.
I know where the fool is...
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163865&page=1&pp=15
LegolasTheElf
Phone fan Phone(s):
1: Cingular 8525 - WM6, highly customized!
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3:
Provider(s):
Cingular/AT&T
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From: SoCal, USA
Posts: 14
XDA castoff looking for new home!
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I'm one of the senior guys from XDA -- look for any posts by LegolasTheElf on XDA and you'll see what I mean
Anyways, I'm one of the experts on the HTC TyTn/Hermes/8525. I thought I'd introduce myself here, and offer some assistance.
Here are MY ground rules:
1) If you keep asking me the same questions over and over again, don't be surprised that I either don't answer you, or give you a really stupid answer.
2) I can tell you what you need to know to get WM6 on your device WITHOUT bricking it. I can FIX bricks. Here's the deal. If you want general help, that's great. I can do it. If you want 1-on-1 support, you'll need to PM me and make arrangements to compensate me.
Anyways, I'm not going to be on XDA again, for a while.. So, HoFo just gained a HTC expert
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The "Expert" showed up at HoFo offering his god like service to the pions. Please take this fool back!
dkb218 said:
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163865&page=1&pp=15
The "Expert" showed up at HoFo offering his god like service to the pions. Please take this fool back!
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LOL....he's getting around a bit then - I've seen him "hanging with JJ" over at 4winmobile too
Having gotten himself and his alter ego (xQx) banned by shogunmark, I'm sure he's bound to (try to?) sneak back under the radar to taunt some poor unsuspecting n00b
For now, at least, the Elf's on the dark side
Mark.
Legolas is saying on HoFo that he was banned because he criticized a Moderator. Just for the record, that is not the reason he was banned and the decision was not taken lightly.
To keep the spirit and quality of this site we will not tolerate abusive language particularly when used to describe other members, or those who cannot accept that this is a community where the opinions of others deserve respect.
We do accept freedom of expression where it is politely and intelligently expressed and does not constitute a personal and abusive attack on other forum users.
Members need only use common sense to see the boundary between reasonable good behaviour and repeatedly going too far.
This is not a forum where people should be tuning in to be voyeurs to the latest tirade of flaming and colourful language - there's lots of other fora you can go to for that.
Here endeth the lesson - now let's have some fun
Mike
Yes, he has been welcomed into HOFO with warmth and open arms. I expect he will be their senior mod soon!
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163865&page=1&pp=15
JasenR said:
Yes, he has been welcomed into HOFO with warmth and open arms. I expect he will be their senior mod soon!
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163865&page=1&pp=15
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lol..wow...
Ive seen Logolas shoot out some serious flames before. But reading the reast of that hofo post, it seems like karma is catchin up to him
Mark Crouch said:
Having gotten himself and his alter ego (xQx) banned by shogunmark, I'm sure he's bound to (try to?) sneak back under the radar to taunt some poor unsuspecting n00b
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Your right, he has tried.. and he does currently have a different user id on here, but i am allowing him to plead his case with us mods/admins.. but i can tell you it probably wont last....
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Your right, he has tried.. and he does currently have a different user id on here, but i am allowing him to plead his case with us mods/admins.. but i can tell you it probably wont last....
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I admit, he is a bit harsh and may have taken it a bit too far, but who doesn't get frustrated. I would rather take some good advice from someone who demands that I do my homework, than get bad advice and a $500 brick. He is knowledgeable and helpful, if not a bit abrasive Seriously, if I had a vote (which I don't), I would keep him around for his knowledge I'll take the personality quirks that go with it. I realize this may not be a popular opinion atm, but he has unbricked a bunch of Hermes.
Just my .02 (monetary unit of your choice)
todd_jg said:
I admit, he is a bit harsh and may have taken it a bit too far, but who doesn't get frustrated. I would rather take some good advice from someone who demands that I do my homework, than get bad advice and a $500 brick. He is knowledgeable and helpful, if not a bit abrasive Seriously, if I had a vote (which I don't), I would keep him around for his knowledge I'll take the personality quirks that go with it. I realize this may not be a popular opinion atm, but he has unbricked a bunch of Hermes.
Just my .02 (monetary unit of your choice)
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If i myself would have only seen what all has happened on the surface then i would probably agree with you, but there has been a lot that has happened in the background that most people dont know about, nor will we make it public.. but i can assure you that the things that have happened in the background completely goes against the xda spirit...
Well, if nothing else, this story illustrates what we should all know well by now ... the internet and technology makes this a very small world ... and there no longer is the fiction of maintaining/making reputations in isolation ... a quick stroll through the HOFO thread make this point crystal clear.
Not to get biblical, but the "reap what you sow" line comes to mind.
mikechannon said:
We do accept freedom of expression where it is politely and intelligently expressed and does not constitute a personal and abusive attack on other forum users.
This is not a forum where people should be tuning in to be voyeurs to the latest tirade of flaming and colourful language - there's lots of other fora you can go to for that.
Mike
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Yet it appears you helped in creating this ****. way to go idiot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308339
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actually mikechannon photoshopped that
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Yet it appears you helped in creating this ****. way to go idiot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308339
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Mods: now that the kinder and gentler elf is back, this thread can be cleaned up and locked. Removal of the previous post would be appreciated. I do think that mods should be paid some respect - even from seniors. Thanks.
todd_jg said:
Mods: now that the kinder and gentler elf is back, this thread can be cleaned up and locked. Removal of the previous post would be appreciated. I do think that mods should be paid some respect - even from seniors. Thanks.
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Perhaps another mod should do the cleaning as I seem to be in the firing line here. I would just say that the above graphic was a purely humorous post originally created at the time M$ was making us take down the ROM archive (Hence "no Mr Gates don't do it")- it was certainly not any kind of criticism of Shogun for whom I have great respect. Let's not loose our sense of humour.
Mike
Mike, I apologize, and not because you are a mod, but because I was wrong about you.
I never seen the image when it was used about the rom archive, and immediately seen it as bashing shogunmark.
@ Todd, "the kindler gentler elf" has already mentioned brainless people can't read in his posts already, and also, I don't care if I am senior or noob, (its fairly clear the intent of the Elfs avitar, even though Mikechannon had nothing to do with it) Im going to say something about it, I can't even believe he was let back in, to be honest.
ChaoticDruid said:
Mike, I apologize, and not because you are a mod, but because I was wrong about you.
I never seen the image when it was used about the rom archive, and immediately seen it as bashing shogunmark.
@ Todd, "the kindler gentler elf" has already mentioned brainless people can't read in his posts already, and also, I don't care if I am senior or noob, (its fairly clear the intent of the Elfs avitar, even though Mikechannon had nothing to do with it) Im going to say something about it, I can't even believe he was let back in, to be honest.
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How did you get out of the insane asylum? I was told to watch my language.. I did that.
My avatar has everything to do with the ROM archive being removed.. What were YOU thinking it was?!?
Personally, I just keep hearing the Wizard of Oz when I read your posts... Something about the scarecrow and his one desire.. But, I don't quite remember the words.
Anyways, enjoy the rest of your day! And, thanks for your great input!
The reality is that you don't have to like or agree with me. But, if you really hate everything I do and say, just add me to your ignore list. However, what fun is it to only read one side of an opinion? Maybe you're one of those people who are afraid of having an open mind.. Things can fall out.
ChaoticDruid said:
Yet it appears you helped in creating this ****. way to go idiot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308339
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its true.. it was all a joke and in good fun Mike is a great guy whom i also have lots of respect for.

Id like to apologize

id like to apologize for being a real jerk for the past few years.....it took my account being hacked to make me realize how ive been. I thought "***MOD EDIT***" was a secure password but I guess not. Anywho my sincere apologies to all I offended
smixxer said:
id like to apologize for being a real jerk for the past few years.....it took my account being hacked to make me realize how ive been. I thought "***MOD Edit***" was a secure password but I guess not. Anywho my sincere apologies to all I offended
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??? past years?
who are you? you joined this month...
Hi, oh wait bye.
Hands down best password ever, lmao
Can we get a full disclosure of all of your identities to go along with that apology?
*edit- nvm, I just remembered no one gives a 5h!7...
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That pic makes me LOL every time I see it.
Clearly Fixxxer here is trying to cover his crazy ass.
haha... yrah reminds me of my dog now.
Tipharet said:
Clearly Fixxxer here is trying to cover his crazy ass.
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clearly, you have no idea who this is... but I do.
regaw_leinad said:
clearly, you have no idea who this is... but I do.
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I was being sarcastic. I forget observations on a forum with no discussion + sarcasm based on said observations dont wont work on a forum.
Cuz anything that has XX or XXX in it is Fixxxer (tard).
sandboxlove said:
my advice on the whole fixxxer debacle
to fixxer:
its probably best if you stop posting. i dont mean altogether, only in the regard that if your not inputting help in a qeustion thread, or reporting a bug, or asking a question of your own, its best if you just keep your lips zipped. this isnt because i think less of you or your opinions, its simple because these guys will never leave you alone. also, IF by chance you do have 100000000 different alias s on here, stick to one, because it would be kinda of creep if you were pretending to be a bunch of people, and even creepier that you use those other people to defend you
to everyone else:
stfu. whatever happened to development? you know, before the cdma portal was created, android and any other development community was not in shambles. in alot of places, the devs take part in conversations, love to joke around and have fun, but i notice that none of know the devs on a personal level because their the only ones who keep a sane head. all of their posts are impartial and strictly too the point...but people here bring the drama, and their obviously above that, they only bother posting when their making a release of some sort. it like, if your so smart, if your lame responses to fixxxers threads should be valued above what hes actually saying, then why post at all?
hey you.
oh, and you.
thats right, even you!
try and be an adult.
i wish the moderation was a bit more strict here. a mod told me once that they "moderate", not "police" but in a place like this, i think policing is required. i truely believe a majority of the people here are teenagers, and if im wrong, and your all adults, i think it best that you go buy a moto razr, because you dont belong here.
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fixxxer?? Is that you?
nebenezer said:
fixxxer?? Is that you?
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Oh me, stop being ridiculous. Sandbox has openly announced he's gay, fixxxxxxxxer would never do that.
Working in the technology field i know if someone were to have several screen names on here the moderation could easily find out by tracking the IP Address. That's unless of course you have several people from the same household on here. I agree with the above comment that the silliness should end and we should focus more on development.
Not trying to add to the debacle at all, but I am certainly a teenager, but I do not act the way some of the members of this community act. In my honest opinion, I think it is sad how some members criticize others.
@sandboxlove, Not trying to offend, but the stereotype that ALL teenagers are immature, incompetent forum users..Just trying to clear that up.
markus_del_marko said:
Working in the technology field i know if someone were to have several screen names on here the moderation could easily find out by tracking the IP Address. That's unless of course you have several people from the same household on here. I agree with the above comment that the silliness should end and we should focus more on development.
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wow, that's a very interesting avatar. For some reason it looks familiar...
Anyhoo, welcome to xda, congrats on your first post, blah blah...
nebenezer said:
wow, that's a very interesting avatar. For some reason it looks familiar...
Anyhoo, welcome to xda, congrats on your first post, blah blah...
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Thanks, not sure if i should take your welcome seriously or not? Anyways anybody know why there is a 5 minute restriction on posting or is it a noob type deal?
markus_del_marko said:
Thanks, not sure if i should take your welcome seriously or not? Anyways anybody know why there is a 5 minute restriction on posting or is it a noob type deal?
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Why yes we have another personality here.... you are quite the odd fellow
lol.....
nebenezer said:
wow, that's a very interesting avatar. For some reason it looks familiar...
Anyhoo, welcome to xda, congrats on your first post, blah blah...
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nebenezer said:
wow, that's a very interesting avatar. For some reason it looks familiar...
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It's the Offspring logo...

Thanks to US, XDA and Samsungjohn-•••

Do you think Samsung FINALLY HEARD OUR VOICES and bent under the cloud of losing market share (what I think) or what. Thank you either way,
Please feel free to express your thoughts here about the recent release of the source code and SamgsungJohn---
Thanks to XDA for providing a conduit to samsung , and thanks to the staff for helping all of us in the forum address the poor treatment we received from Samsung.
Thanks to SamsungJohn (albeit way late) reaching out to us, and at least acknowledging the superior development here is not a threat but an asset.
Thanks to all the people here pulling together to pressure a Big Corporation to respond to our calls to release the open source code (as required by the open source licensing agreement)
Thanks- ALL
The thing is, how can a major company like Samsung, take so many missteps?? Things like this is what they should have done in the beginning. They're slowing correcting their mistakes, but it certainly wont be forgotten. (I never had a Behold 2 so I do not know of that fiasco)
behold2 wasnt really a fiasco unless you were an impulse buyer.
if you did your homework before making a purchase you never would have bought one..
Was source released because of SamsungJohn? I missed that part.
I didn't think SamsungJohn actually did anything and then he just went away when we asked him questions.
It was also my understanding that source was released because they were obligated to - not because they wanted to show us some love.
Is there some information somewhere I'm missing?
megatherian said:
Was source released because of SamsungJohn? I missed that part.
I didn't think SamsungJohn actually did anything and then he just went away when we asked him questions.
It was also my understanding that source was released because they were obligated to - not because they wanted to show us some love.
Is there some information somewhere I'm missing?
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check his twitter feed, all your questions will be answered.
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check his twitter feed, all your questions will be answered.
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ah, ok. I don't Twitter so didn't see any of that.
What about us that don't subscribe to.twitter? Could you fill us in?
Powered by Axura with a dash of Voodoo
I honestly give NO credit to @samsungjohn.... he came to XDA made some threads and asked for feedback (multiple times), but what has he really done? Nothing.... He tweeted about source being released, but so did a LOT of people on my timeline.
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I honestly give NO credit to @samsungjohn.... he came to XDA made some threads and asked for feedback (multiple times), but what has he really done? Nothing.... He tweeted about source being released, but so did a LOT of people on my timeline.
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I agree that I don't think this was SamsungJohn's doing. However we need to give the guy some slack. He may not have approached things in the best way. But he is still learning and hopefully will come up with a good way to be the liaison between community and Samsung.
samsungjohn is the face of samsung trying to make up for what everyone has been *****ing about for so long.
why are all of you ****ting on him?
i doubt it was one man that said "ok lol give them source kekeke" but he's the one that is trying to mend all the wounds with the SGS device owners that post on XDA. i can only assume the first attempt went wrong as the thread is deleted now.
i would imagine it looked smiliar to the SGS/Tmobile facebook fan pages where anytime anything is posted, it ends up with 5000 people saying "**** you samsung/tmobile where is my froyo" by a bunch of idiots that wouldnt know the difference between 2.2 and 1.6, other than the number is 0.6 higher.
a lot of you guys are being ****ing crybabies now, even though the devs now have what they need to get 2.2 100% stable.
not to mention the fact we have a voice now that could get GB on our phones faster than ever.
screenshot of his page:
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read more here:
http://twitter.com/#!/SamsungJohn
be thankful that we are getting what everyone is asking for and be thankful we have bad ass devs like team whiskey and supercurio backing us up.
^ dude, nobody is giving him a hard time (or "****ting on him"), just pointing out he hasnt DONE anything, yet... not saying he won't, but what has he done? Asked for suggestions and tweets that he is working on something.... okay....
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^ dude, nobody is giving him a hard time ..., just pointing out he hasnt DONE anything, yet... not saying he won't, but what has he done? Asked for suggestions and tweets that he is working on something.... okay....
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True and agree. Was just saying that he hasn't been officially here on Samsung's behalf for very long.
turbosix said:
behold2 wasnt really a fiasco unless you were an impulse buyer.
if you did your homework before making a purchase you never would have bought one..
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Not totaly true at all. The forums had a lot of promise but samsung didn't deliever on promises. I checked that forum before I bought mine. There was a dev that did amazing work so I bought one. When he gave up so did I.
He was known as BHMan aka eugene373
Did you guys notice on his twitter feed that he is a Social Media Analyst (aka, how many people are pissed at us counter) /Developer (what has he developed?)...
How can you work in social media and not know how to Direct Message?? Did you guys see the tweets with @Supercurio.... John had completely forgotten all of the really useful information @supercurio had sent him, and has shown nothing he has developed.... he didn't even know how to DM??? REALLY???
Sorry, but if you are on the @SamsungJohn train, you WILL be sadly let down. He is just trying to help with the rage we threw at Samsung. All they had to do was release Froyo/Source in a reasonable time and NONE of this would have been an issue.
It's funny to me that you guys expect something to come from this guy, who just appeared, and has done absolutely nothing to date.
nomadrider123 said:
Not totaly true at all. The forums had a lot of promise but samsung didn't deliever on promises. I checked that forum before I bought mine. There was a dev that did amazing work so I bought one. When he gave up so did I.
He was known as BHMan aka eugene373
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the phone wasnt significantly better than the g1 and came out like a year after. based on that alone i would not have bought one..
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Did you guys notice on his twitter feed that he is a Social Media/Developer... yet he didnt know how to Message @Supercurio.... had completely forgotten all of the really useful information @supercurio had sent him, and has shown nothing he has developed....
Sorry, but if you are on the @SamsungJohn train, you are going to be sadly let down. He is just trying to help with the rage we threw at Samsung. All they had to do was release Froyo/Source in a reasonable time and NONE of this would have been an issue.
It's just funny to me that you guys expect something to come from this guy, who just appeared, and has done absolutely nothing to date.
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fine, be negative, lol, whatever you want.
^^ Right, but the point is, a lot of people did buy the phone..... and they got F'd by Samsung who did nothing to support that phone.
I'm not being negative when I say not to expect anything from this John guy. Source was released, that's all we needed. I'm all for having a Samsung person who is really going to help.... I just don't see this going anywhere right now. I would LOVE to be wrong. I also hope future updates/source are taken more seriously by Samsung. Too good of hardware to lose customers due to support.
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^ dude, nobody is giving him a hard time (or "****ting on him"), just pointing out he hasnt DONE anything, yet... not saying he won't, but what has he done? Asked for suggestions and tweets that he is working on something.... okay....
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I agree but that said, In the public foray It good to be polite and cordial...... even though my "inner child wants vengeance" I can play nice.......
My Real problem is all the other phone makers and carrier do not treat you really any better........ In my business if I treated people the way Samsung treated us..... I'd be homeless.......... that is reality...... too bad they have different rules to play by and we just get to be the ping-pong ball
Isn't Samsung obligated to release the source code to their enhancements under the GPL?
I understand why they might be averse to doing that... but if they have a problem with it then they should switch to different OS for their devices.
I guess I have problems congratulating a company on doing what they are supposed to do.
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Isn't Samsung obligated to release the source code to their enhancements under the GPL?
I understand why they might be averse to doing that... but if they have a problem with it then they should switch to different OS for their devices.
I guess I have problems congratulating a company on doing what they are supposed to do.
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I agree 100% but in business you learn to thank people for what they were supposed to do like it was something special.......... unfortunately that is the way it is............sucks but true

The neverending story....

Some of you know me, some don't. I'm more active trough PM then trough posting. But this is something that is bother me for a while and I think a lot of us.
And it can't be done trough PM, believe me, i have tried....
We all (if we are fair) know that the x10 is old mobile. And the most of us don't use a mobile longer than 2 years. So why o why read I so many post of people that are complaining about a update from a dev. Let them move on and give new dev's a chance
My personal top 3 irritations!!!!!
1) if you can't do it yourself, be grateful for everything they do for us and don't complain!!!
2) if we (the users) get a new mobile, how many people still stick to the x10 treads? So why expect a lot of people that the dev's must stick to the X10 forum and development further!!!
3) if a dev don't post for a while, don't post non related post in a DEVELOPMENT TREAD and complain about a update!!!
I have talk with a lot of members trough a personal message and told them about the post they have placed. But I think its a neverending story.
I think when the Mods are more harsher and give quicker a warning and ban people, then maybe people think twice what they post. I know that the mods help xda in their spare time and do all they can. But when you make a couple statements, the word get spread and maybe maybe this will work!
thanks for listening to my complaint
Even though i bought a Galaxy Note, i still read the first page of the General/Dev/Q&A section of the X10 forum daily.
You are right about people complaining to developers for updates, but that's just the way it is. It doesn't have to disturb you, or anyone. Most people ignore these types of begging posts anyway.
My experience in forums showed that having strict moderation won't do a thing. It will only lead to more drama. I know you feel you have to do something about this, but believe me its better if you relax and don't do anything at all. The mods know their job and doing the best they can. Talking to individuals via PM's and trying to explain why they shouldn't do this and that is not only time consuming, but as you can see, it lead you being frustrated enough to start this thread.
This thread will be read by (lets say) 1000, will be replied by 10-20, some may agree, some may not. It then will crawl it's way on the bottom of the page until a similar thread pops up. (There, just saved you some time )
Bottom line is, it's the interwebz. Don't get too attached.
But he is right though
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RANT AHEAD!
Unfortunately, you are right. People feel its a right they possess to get the developer to work non stop for them. Things in the x10 forums are still relatively mild though... In the atrix forum, the CM7 thread had to be closed for a period of time due to people complaining and demanding for fixes. And the "thx" posts. Here's a classic example
sx4 said:
all i want to know when moto atrix is getting ics.i also have sgs captivate and it is running on ics port and woking very well.so i also want to have ics on this phone also.pls do it quickly
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I like the x10 forums, things are usually more peaceful and people more helpful here.
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RANT AHEAD!
I like the x10 forums, things are usually more peaceful and people more helpful here.
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lol, before this thread gets closed i would love to point out that we have had our moments here, we can mix it with the big boys
I have given up with my classic posts of
1. use search next time
2. rule number 1 is not to ask for an eta
3. read the OP
4. why dont you make a backup and try it yourself
its just not worth the ware and tear of my keyboard to make them anymore....
but, we were all noobs once, a bit of tolerance is should be given
im totally agree with you,but hey,you cant fight fire with fire,that just leads to your "never ending story"
Hi,
This is my defense, take this thread in the X10 forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356580
I have just counted 93 posts deleted by moderators and with the warnings posted, about a dozen took vacations for ignoring the developer and moderators warning of being a Dev only thread. Just because you do not see warnings posted everywhere does not mean nothing is being done, most problems can be sorted out using the new infraction system, we use that all the time now, it is easy to use and straight to the point.
This type of thread cleaning and response is happening all the time, reported posts are dealt with much faster and if anybody needs banning, senior mods are available on gtalk to sort it out immediately.
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Hi,
This is my defense, take this thread in the X10 forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356580
I have just counted 93 posts deleted by moderators and with the warnings posted, about a dozen took vacations for ignoring the developer and moderators warning of being a Dev only thread. Just because you do not see warnings posted everywhere does not mean nothing is being done, most problems can be sorted out using the new infraction system, we use that all the time now, it is easy to use and straight to the point.
This type of thread cleaning and response is happening all the time, reported posts are dealt with much faster and if anybody needs banning, senior mods are available on gtalk to sort it out immediately.
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Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
Cool story bro
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Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
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You harsh, Nah. (I do however get the feeling it was you that closed my first thread posted here.) But having an Avatar that is a Happy Face , with a "Heidelberg Scar" doesn't really convoy a feeling of warm, fuzzy comfort to people. More like good mod / bad mod and Colossus= good mod; he even warns people in a very nice polite way. But temporarily freezing threads seems to be doing a great job of allowing the tensions to diffuse. Kudos for that.
tal333
-PiLoT- said:
Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
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I actually don't think you're a harsh mod at all...
just blunt and to the point.
Also hilarious, even when it is aimed at me lol
pilot is harsh..;lol////
i feel like a virgin untill i have my first infraction...so pilot...give it me hard!
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pilot is harsh..;lol////
i feel like a virgin untill i have my first infraction...so pilot...give it me hard!
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he is going to pop your infraction cherry
scoobysnacks said:
he is going to pop your infraction cherry
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bet he doesnt
edit
no balls
hopefully he'll be gentle
scoobysnacks said:
hopefully he'll be gentle
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not like last time....
I didn't walk right for a week
scoobysnacks said:
I didn't walk right for a week
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When i said give it to me i didnt mean that!!!!
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when I got my first infraction, I couldn't walk right because.... I was so upset so I wasn't paying attention to where I was going?
What did you guys think I meant? geez

Let's petition HTC to release the descendent of Desire Z/G2, a phone with keyboard!

I've created a petition to get HTC release internationally a new powerful android device with hardware keyboard. Something that would serve as a powerful descendant of our beloved Desire Z. Many nice phones are being released these days, like the HTC One series, but we still miss a new keyboard device from HTC!
If you feel like you're motivated, let's try to reach a critical mass with signs on this petition! Also don't forget to propagate the petition, so it would start to reach all over the world, and finally we could hand over a big fat petition to htc...of course it could mean nothing to them, but hey, it's worth a try.
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc...y-a-powerful-new-phone-with-hardware-keyboard
We're over 200 signers. Not much, but nice start in a few days!
Please, if you feel inclined, don't hesitate to share this on twitter, gplus or facebook, where ever you feel it's appropriate. Don't forget to put @htc in your tweet if you link the petition, or +htc in google plus.
Please, lets try to get this to XDA portal, press Submit Thread in the upper right corner!
Elektrey (unaffiliated with htc)created a nice imaginary design for such a device. You can check it here in my gplus page. All credits to Elektrey for the image:
https://plus.google.com/104117834086133689848/posts/FZ5b6GnCGHM
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Amen. We need one of these soon!
Yeah. I'm trying to think of which sites/forums to put this link to. We need more and more signs and reshares on social sites.
Please feel free to campaign with the petition link anywhere you think its appropriate and useful. Thanks
A few little tweaks to that render and I'd pay a damn lot of money for that phone! As it stands, I'm probably going to have to give up my qwerty soon since my DZ just can't play with the big boys any more
If HTC would release something like this, 4" or 4.3" screen and high end specs, I'd be ecstatic.
EDIT: And I can't overstate how critical the scrollpad is as well. In an ideal world I'd want hardware buttons on the front of it and all!
Please, lets try to get this to XDA portal, press Submit Thread in the upper right corner!
thx
Done, and done!
I Signed the petition now!
Hope to have good news soon!
SIGNED!!
im so envy for getting one
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Why is the goal 10,000?! We couldn't even reach near that number for the ICS ones... Not to be mean but just curious.... trying to be practical.
sino8r said:
Why is the goal 10,000?! We couldn't even reach near that number for the ICS ones... Not to be mean but just curious.... trying to be practical.
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If it could get viral on social media or on xda portal, it wouldnt be impossible. Lets tweet,gplus,facebook etc this and if it gets around the world it might get near...
sent from HTC Doubleshot
One thing to note as well, if you want this to be more effective, you also want to make sure proper grammar is enforced throughout the petition.It is, atleast for me, a red flag as soon as I see stuff that is riddled with bad grammar.
p.s. before people start bashing me for asking for proper grammar, I'm trying to give constructive criticism. I'm not mocking him. If you want to petition for anything, anything less that perfect almost always get dismissed at first glance.
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One thing to note as well, if you want this to be more effective, you also want to make sure proper grammar is enforced throughout the petition.It is, atleast for me, a red flag as soon as I see stuff that is riddled with bad grammar.
p.s. before people start bashing me for asking for proper grammar, I'm trying to give constructive criticism. I'm not mocking him. If you want to petition for anything, anything less that perfect almost always get dismissed at first glance.
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mputtr said:
One thing to note as well, if you want this to be more effective, you also want to make sure proper grammar is enforced throughout the petition.It is, atleast for me, a red flag as soon as I see stuff that is riddled with bad grammar.
p.s. before people start bashing me for asking for proper grammar, I'm trying to give constructive criticism. I'm not mocking him. If you want to petition for anything, anything less that perfect almost always get dismissed at first glance.
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Bad grammar is the least of OP's worries .... the idea that a big hardware vendor is going to ignore all the carefully prepared and analysed sales predictions and customer feedback. Just because a few people on a forum get their aunts to sing some bone headed petition ........ ****ing priceless.
mputtr said:
One thing to note as well, if you want this to be more effective, you also want to make sure proper grammar is enforced throughout the petition.It is, atleast for me, a red flag as soon as I see stuff that is riddled with bad grammar.
p.s. before people start bashing me for asking for proper grammar, I'm trying to give constructive criticism. I'm not mocking him. If you want to petition for anything, anything less that perfect almost always get dismissed at first glance.
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updated petition text. in case you find more errors, pls go into details, and i will correct them. and pls, press Submit Thread, so it could get to the portal maybe.
thx
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc...y-a-powerful-new-phone-with-hardware-keyboard
Guru Zeb said:
Bad grammar is the least of OP's worries .... the idea that a big hardware vendor is going to ignore all the carefully prepared and analysed sales predictions and customer feedback. Just because a few people on a forum get their aunts to sing some bone headed petition ........ ****ing priceless.
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