Atrix 4G Sideloading [Inspire 4G - A sign of things to come?] - Atrix 4G General

This is good news for everyone who was hoping for sideloading.
http://briefmobile.com/htc-inspire-4g-allows-application-sideloading

Wrong phone dude, thats for the HTC Inspire not the Atrix.

dreadlord369 said:
Wrong phone dude, thats for the HTC Inspire not the Atrix.
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Yes. But the Inspire is on AT&T, and it's the very first AT&T Android device to allow sideloading.
The point is that hopefully AT&T is signalling a change for all Android devices, including the Atrix 4G.

kennethpenn said:
Yes. But the Inspire is on AT&T, and it's the very first AT&T Android device to allow sideloading.
The point is that hopefully AT&T is signalling a change for all Android devices, including the Atrix 4G.
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I get that but from the the title it seemed like you were saying that the atrix had sideloading. You should edit it. But yea that would be nice if they did allow it on future phones like the atrix.

dreadlord369 said:
I get that but from the the title it seemed like you were saying that the atrix had sideloading. You should edit it. But yea that would be nice if they did allow it on future phones like the atrix.
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I made it clearer for people who might not be able to understand.

kennethpenn said:
Yes. But the Inspire is on AT&T, and it's the very first AT&T Android device to allow sideloading.
The point is that hopefully AT&T is signalling a change for all Android devices, including the Atrix 4G.
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I doubt AT&T is going to change anything. Other sources are saying that the Inspire also has sideloading blocked.
Looks like now these other sources are reversing what they were saying yesterday. I wonder why the Inspire has sideloading but doesn't have the option to turn it on and off in settings?

I dont understand, I have yet to get an android device and due to ****ty ATT and im in the stone age with the TP2. Can't we put custom roms on these phones and bypass all the bull**** and side-load what evs? Isn't that what this site is about? Am I missing something here?

sdlopez83 said:
I dont understand, I have yet to get an android device and due to ****ty ATT and im in the stone age with the TP2. Can't we put custom roms on these phones and bypass all the bull**** and side-load what evs? Isn't that what this site is about? Am I missing something here?
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You can't use full custom roms on Moto phones. Apparently they didn't get the memo on what Android is and they're trying to be Apple. The Inspire should be able to use custom kernels. The Atrix will be rooted and will probably get custom roms just not roms with custom kernels. As long as the phone works like it should and isn't an abortion like the Captivate I won't need custom roms.

sigh, I feel so outdated

sdlopez83 said:
sigh, I feel so outdated
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I have an HTC Fuze....how due you think I feel. Not only that but I have an old uber 20 dollar unlimited everything plan so I have to pay full price for my next phone.

LSUtigers03 said:
You can't use full custom roms on Moto phones. Apparently they didn't get the memo on what Android is and they're trying to be Apple. The Inspire should be able to use custom kernels. The Atrix will be rooted and will probably get custom roms just not roms with custom kernels. As long as the phone works like it should and isn't an abortion like the Captivate I won't need custom roms.
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We don't really know this, yet.

show me the magic i am not getting this phone (atrix) until i see a magically awsome dont care how they do it way to get a custom rom on here waiting for it and then ill get this phone

ram8704 said:
I have an HTC Fuze....how due you think I feel. Not only that but I have an old uber 20 dollar unlimited everything plan so I have to pay full price for my next phone.
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ME TOO!!! I can relate

bfrank said:
ME TOO!!! I can relate
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I had a Fuze too, briefly, til it met a tragic end and then the great insurance thru AT&T found a loophole and refused to replace it. If AT&T didn't offer the best service in the backwoods where I live, would have dropped them a long time ago. Sprint, not an option.. T-Maybe not even present at the table.. VZW took over AllHell and have not touched the infrastructure since then. And I bought out my contract just to leave AllHell early they were soooo bad.

Apparently the Atrix DOES NOT SUPPORT SIDELOADING
http://www.everythingandroid.org/mo...port-non-market-app-installations/2011/02/10/

darklipslide said:
Apparently the Atrix DOES NOT SUPPORT SIDELOADING
http://www.everythingandroid.org/mo...port-non-market-app-installations/2011/02/10/
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Right. Because it's on AT&T...which doesn't allow sideloading. According to CNET, though, it will allow users to remove AT&T bloatware, so one less thing to do after rooting.

darklipslide said:
Apparently the Atrix DOES NOT SUPPORT SIDELOADING
http://www.everythingandroid.org/mo...port-non-market-app-installations/2011/02/10/
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I wish some of these idiot reviewers would sideload via another method and let us know how it goes.
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i had to LOL

i feel sorry for all the suckers who installed the ota 2.2 upgrade on their evo's. also any replacement or new phones that come from sprint have 2.2 on them so they cannot root at all.
im wondering how many came back to the hero for the time being?
yeah... i bet they're going "damn im throwing away a fully functional, faster, flash enabled device for the hero until i can root again!"
DirtyShroomz said:
yeah... i bet they're going "damn im throwing away a fully functional, faster, flash enabled device for the hero until i can root again!"
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ive actually seen several users on ppcgeeks go back to the tp2 & hero for now. they need the tether.
i cannot begin to tell you how many customers ive had want their ota 2.2 rooted and when i tell them i cannot they get pissed and a few even put them up for sale.
yeah, my brother dwizzy130 just got his EVO last night. Came w/ 2.2 already on it. Not too worried though, root will come soon
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Not too worried though, root will come soon
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hopefully, yes.
I'm confident that they will have a root soon... but I would NEVER install on OTA update on a rooted phone!
markus_del_marko said:
ive actually seen several users on ppcgeeks go back to the tp2 & hero for now. they need the tether.
i cannot begin to tell you how many customers ive had want their ota 2.2 rooted and when i tell them i cannot they get pissed and a few even put them up for sale.
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u dont need root to tether
DirtyShroomz said:
u dont need root to tether
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Just $30 a month
abcdfv said:
Just $30 a month
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or use easytether/pdanet for a one time $9.99 charge... it's what I use
DirtyShroomz said:
u dont need root to tether
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if you want it for free you do. that's what 99% of the users want anyways. i cannot begin to tell you how many phones ive rooted over the summer for my customers just to tether for free. screw that $30 charge.
markus_del_marko said:
if you want it for free you do. that's what 99% of the users want anyways. i cannot begin to tell you how many phones ive rooted over the summer for my customers just to tether for free. screw that $30 charge.
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Wow u mean u actually have done things on these phones. Sure doesn't show on here
LOL at those people all you want.. but these phones are leaps and bounds better then the hero will ever be.. and like another poster said, I really wanna give up my faster flash enabled evo for a rooted hero.. LOL..
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markus_del_marko said:
if you want it for free you do. that's what 99% of the users want anyways. i cannot begin to tell you how many phones ive rooted over the summer for my customers just to tether for free. screw that $30 charge.
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99% of the 1% of hero users who are hackers/crackers on xda you mean?
I feel sorry for the EVO 2.2 guys too, but not laughing at them.
Papa Smurf151 said:
Wow u mean u actually have done things on these phones. Sure doesn't show on here
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as always with your smart ass comments but yes..of course, when im getting paid ill do it. i usually create roms & themes for myself. didn't know that was a crime.
DirtyShroomz said:
99% of the 1% of hero users who are hackers/crackers on xda you mean?
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no these are people who know nothing about hacking or rooting. they come to me because they heard it could be done. not to mention ive made a few friendships with sprint corporate gurus who paid me to root & unlock their phones too.
markus_del_marko said:
no these are people who know nothing about hacking or rooting. they come to me because they heard it could be done. not to mention ive made a few friendships with sprint corporate gurus who paid me to root & unlock their phones too.
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A sprint corporate guru asked you to unlock his phone? you think he'd know how to himself lol..
regaw_leinad said:
A sprint corporate guru asked you to unlock his phone? you think he'd know how to himself lol..
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If he knew how to do it himself, he wouldn't be a higher up.
abcdfv said:
If he knew how to do it himself, he wouldn't be a higher up.
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Yup, he'd be a retention supervisor like me
Haha, Dilbert memories...
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A lil' update bout "ROOT" from Cyanogen on Twitter

I thought I'd share it with y'all
http://pastebin.com/cm75Z9UA
I just wish the media would see these things and correct the false stories they put out. :|
eddieringle said:
I just wish the media would see these things and correct the false stories they put out. :|
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who cares what the media says in regards to this topic
but this seems like good news
call me dumb but where does this link reference cyanogen?
arich said:
call me dumb but where does this link reference cyanogen?
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I was thinking the same thing. It said it was uploaded by anonymous, right?
Cyanogen tweeted that link.
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arich said:
call me dumb but where does this link reference cyanogen?
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I dont believe it does and all that it does say is what we already know
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Thank You
Thank god that one of the best android phones ever is able to be rooted. If the G2 was not able to be rooted, i think that that would just be going against the whole "open source" theme that android is going for ,.
dkaz46 said:
Thank god that one of the best android phones ever is able to be rooted. If the G2 was not able to be rooted, i think that that would just be going against the whole "open source" theme that android is going for ,.
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Um, hate to tell you, but HTC and T-Mobile have pretty clearly demonstrated their stance of Free Open Source Software. The whole idea of locking us out goes against the spirit of Linux and Open Source. They are taking the work of others, and using it to turn a profit, screw the user in the process.
My G2 goes back this week. **** you T-Mobile, you just gained another b-stock G2.
Got mine til next Sunday. If no perm root by then, its going back. Guess ill have to stick with the vibrant, but oh well, at least its rootable.
HamNCheese said:
Um, hate to tell you, but HTC and T-Mobile have pretty clearly demonstrated their stance of Free Open Source Software. The whole idea of locking us out goes against the spirit of Linux and Open Source. They are taking the work of others, and using it to turn a profit, screw the user in the process.
My G2 goes back this week. **** you T-Mobile, you just gained another b-stock G2.
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jtc442 said:
Got mine til next Sunday. If no perm root by then, its going back. Guess ill have to stick with the vibrant, but oh well, at least its rootable.
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give it time the vibrant is a nice phone no doubt but the g2 will have way more support for one being HTC and two being stock so being able to mod things for the g2 willsorta be how the nexus one is..which has great support who knows g2 might have 3.0 before samsung has 2.2 lol dont quot me either way you have a great phone
I understand, believe me. But I got this phone for its speed, which it def has, its support, being HTC, and the root ability, which is not here, yet at least. I need tether, bad. I hate the vibrant, but its so easily rootable. And I have tether. Had sprint and the evo. Left it for this phone. No regrets other than the crap they pulled on this phone. I wanted the hspa speeds, the vibrant I had right before this one, got almost the same speeds. So why not go back?
cdw9800 said:
give it time the vibrant is a nice phone no doubt but the g2 will have way more support for one being HTC and two being stock so being able to mod things for the g2 willsorta be how the nexus one is..which has great support who knows g2 might have 3.0 before samsung has 2.2 lol dont quot me either way you have a great phone
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arich said:
call me dumb but where does this link reference cyanogen?
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He posted the link by twitter.
http://twitter.com/#!/cyanogen/status/26897673549
Hate to tell you, but the bug referenced is not a bug-as-in-a-hole-to-be-exploited. It's a bug in behavior, where changes to /system are thought to be successful by linux but actually aren't. Instead of getting a this-is-read-only error, the write appears to go through. And when the cache is flushed or when the phone is restarted it's apparent that nothing was written at all.
That said, work is still underway.
jtc442 said:
I understand, believe me. But I got this phone for its speed, which it def has, its support, being HTC, and the root ability, which is not here, yet at least. I need tether, bad. I hate the vibrant, but its so easily rootable. And I have tether. Had sprint and the evo. Left it for this phone. No regrets other than the crap they pulled on this phone. I wanted the hspa speeds, the vibrant I had right before this one, got almost the same speeds. So why not go back?
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i had the vibrant...and i got the feeling i was going to get burned by samsung the g2 came out.... what tuesday? but if you feel you be happier with your vibrant by all means do what you feel i miss the mp3 player but not enough to turn my back on HTC lol i vowed to only buy HTC from now on oh and have you tried pdanet for tethering its free check the market my gf uses it for her laptop

Which do you beleive will have better roms?

Looking to upgrade from nexus one to either atrix or galaxy sII. They both have good hardware and it would be nice to have the bigger screen of the galaxy but it doesn't really matter to me.
I don't really trust Samsung with software upgrades and I have never had a Motorola before. I think what my decision is going to come to is which one will have the most custom rom development.
Anyone have any guesses on which one you believe will have more custom rom options?
Neither. Motorola still has the encrypted bootloader and Samsung just lies about releasing updates.
I haven't been paying much attention to it, but I thought they already figured out a way to root the atrix
That has nothing to do with the bootloader.
I would choose the atrix,only cause of the massive battery.
evilkorn said:
Neither. Motorola still has the encrypted bootloader and Samsung just lies about releasing updates.
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+1
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djsaad1 said:
I haven't been paying much attention to it, but I thought they already figured out a way to root the atrix
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Problem is that you can be rooted but if the bootloader is encrypted like many Motorola's you cannot install a custom recovery to flash custom ROM's, you just have SU access being rooted.
I would take a nook color modded to have honeycomb over both
donmoosavi said:
I would take a nook color modded to have honeycomb over both
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Right, because that is a phone.
DumbUglyDragon said:
Right, because that is a phone.
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That's NOT the question of this topic, "Which do you beleive will have better roms?".
I agree with with donmoosavi. I too would take the Nook Color over anything Motorola or Samsung.
Samsung and motorola are trying to prevent installation of alternative roms. So I will avoid these.
LG maybe.
OrganizedFellow said:
That's NOT the question of this topic, "Which do you beleive will have better roms?".
I agree with with donmoosavi. I too would take the Nook Color over anything Motorola or Samsung.
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Seems to me the OP is asking the question in reference to phones, since he is looking to upgrade his Nexus One to an Matrix/GS2
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looks like the bootloader is encrypted on the atrix, that is now off the list.
djsaad1 said:
looks like the bootloader is encrypted on the atrix, that is now off the list.
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Actually the bootloader isn't encrypted, but it does perform a signature verification on the files... so the end result is the same. No custom roms as it sits right now.
Bummer.
I thought that by now, Motorola would have embraced the community.
evilkorn said:
Neither. Motorola still has the encrypted bootloader and Samsung just lies about releasing updates.
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this. and htc puts stupid sense on the phones, only sense-less makes sense for me...
thus i wait for the nexus 2, the nexus s isn't appealing at all for me.
the atrix is sweet but no stock android, encrypted bootloader, firefox on the webtop.
there's currently just no phone that is a worthy replacement imo.
dronarg said:
Samsung and motorola are trying to prevent installation of alternative roms. So I will avoid these.
LG maybe.
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This is my thought as well. I won't get another android phone without community support. After watching Vibrant & Droid X development and their troubles I've ruled out both these manufactures regardless of specs.
I expect LG to be the most open of the upcoming android dual core models. It's just a guess though.
Most definitely NOT the Atrix. XDA should let that phone die... Hit them where it actually hurts with phone sales, rather than buying it in hopes to it being cracked one day.
The SGS II looks like the way to go between those two. Unless you feel like waiting to see what HTC ends up releasing.
As for LG, I have no idea. Never owned an LG phone before... The Optimus' bezel sticks out too much along the touch screen, so that'll probably be a deal breaker for me. We'll see when it actually comes out. Till then, it's a waiting game for me.
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Bummer.
I thought that by now, Motorola would have embraced the community.
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The Xoom has the same oem unlock/lock features of the Nexus S but unfortunately I think that's simply because it's a pure Google experience rather than a change in Motorolas views.
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gstar_raw said:
Most definitely NOT the Atrix. XDA should let that phone die... Hit them where it actually hurts with phone sales, rather than buying it in hopes to it being cracked one day.
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It's too bad that the number if people using cooked roms are a margin of error if the phone is successful for the normal consumer. The network perception will do 20x more to hurt sales than the locked bootloader ever will.
That being said, I'd wait for HTC to announce thier next gen (pyramid et al.)
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The future of Custom Roms on the EVO 3D might be slim...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/19/htc-thunderbolt-rooted-for-real-locked-files-nearly-sour-the-de/
They got the thunderbolt rooted, but every file is locked and signed. ;(
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/19/htc-thunderbolt-rooted-for-real-locked-files-nearly-sour-the-de/
They got the thunderbolt rooted, but every file is locked and signed. ;(
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I can't believe this I thought HTC would never do this to the community!
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ouch. thats grim.
Honestly, I'd be very surprised if the Evo 3D was locked down like this. I'm willing to bet that Verizon asked them to make it this way, and they complied.
Sprint, on the other hand, hasn't been the type of company to try to keep everything locked down and make it harder for the dev community. Big V definitely has, as exemplified by the Droid X.
Besides, even if it does come out all locked down like that, the devs here will have it opened up within a few days.
that would have been my next question, if V had requested this setup specifically.
it would seem the "other companies" are oh-so-bunched-up re: tethering w/o a plan, being the big issue with custom ROMs. Sprint might not be as concerned (so far) about that, and thus, not concerned about rooted phones? idk... idle speculation
No surprise here. After all, they did cripple their gpus for over 4 years. This is nothing. Htc = garbage.
Hoping that this is just because of douche-baggery on Verizon's part -- that they requested the phone be totally locked down, like the Moto products that they are selling.
On the other hand, the devs only took three days to break all that ****, so perhaps it's a case of "anything you can do, we can do better," and HTC/Verizon's efforts will meet with utter #FAIL.
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compared to what, exactly?
I an confidant I will have super user permissions and custom everything thanks to my geek friends on here.
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kingdazy said:
compared to what, exactly?
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His opinion. Take it as a grain of salt
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TonyArmstrong said:
Hoping that this is just because of douche-baggery on Verizon's part -- that they requested the phone be totally locked down, like the Moto products that they are selling.
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I'm betting that this is the case.
Am I the only one thinking: so what?
So I can't jack sense... That will do nothing to stop me from replacing the files with a CM ROM. Signing the files doesn't prevent the replacing of files...
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.
Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
Justin.G11 said:
Am I the only one thinking: so what?
So I can't jack sense... That will do nothing to stop me from replacing the files with a CM ROM. Signing the files doesn't prevent the replacing of files...
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.
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I think it does. I remember back when we were starting to flashing ROMs... well they had to be signed in order to be installed or the recovery program would outright refuse to put it on the phone. I guess the implication on this is that even the recovery image itself must be signed in order to install as well as the ROMs. Now, with the EVO, the recovery part does not care if the ROM zip file is signed or not (well, RA has this setting disabled so it will flash regardless) but there was one point where any file that needed to be flashed on the device needed to be signed.
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Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
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Yay!!!
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psych2l said:
Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
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I highly doubt it is even possible for any company to completely lock out android hackers. We have some of the most knowledgeable hackers in our community, some of whom have been around for many many years and have seen there share of OS's
They can slow us down, but they can never stop us.
If they do manage to stop us then I shall move to windows 7 (highly unlikely)
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I highly doubt it is even possible for any company to completely lock out android hackers. We have some of the most knowledgeable hackers in our community, some of whom have been around for many many years and have seen there share of OS's
They can slow us down, but they can never stop us.
If they do manage to stop us then I shall move to windows 7 (highly unlikely)
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Yup and we will all get a clone of every chick we would love to smash (also highly unlikely)
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
I can't believe this I thought HTC would never do this to the community!
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id bet cash its Verizon and not HTC doing this
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Honestly, I'd be very surprised if the Evo 3D was locked down like this. I'm willing to bet that Verizon asked them to make it this way, and they complied.
Sprint, on the other hand, hasn't been the type of company to try to keep everything locked down and make it harder for the dev community. Big V definitely has, as exemplified by the Droid X.
Besides, even if it does come out all locked down like that, the devs here will have it opened up within a few days.
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I bet you're right, verizon is anal about locking their phones down, they are evil people! I hate verizon...
According to some of the comments it is the same old locked bootloader as the evo and incredible. I doubt HTC will try that hard to lock them down.
heck, sometimes I wonder if they give hints about security holes on purpose. Just the other day I saw something in one of the new ROM leaks that gave me some ideas

All these new phones talk

As you all know the Nexus for Sprint is out and soon to be (my favorite) the Evo 3D. But with this new 10$ add on bill for any smartphone you get (even if you have the data unlimited plan) seems to let me down a lot on deciding if i should upgrade soon. I mean if you think about it every time you get a new smart phone 10$ is added to your bill. so theoretically your bill can be limitless. Ya i know 10$ is not much but hell, im only 20 and in school for a surg tech degree, i cant afford that monthly extra.
I really have no point in this paragraph haha. I guess just be blessed for those that are getting those awesome new tech. and il Duce, youre the only one i know so far that is moving on to the 3D, so please dont forget us HeroC homeless that cant afford it .
Hopefully Sprint will get rid of this mental add on. But in the mean time thinks for reading my rant
I'll most likely pick it up. Despite the cryptographiclly signed bootloader, kernel, and recovery, it will still kick ass. I looked through my apps and realized that there are only a few apps I have that require root access. I'll miss my wireless tether, but Mrs. User has a rooted hero, so I guess I could use hers.
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I use a lot of root apps. Plus I want something that I can mod in the long run. I'm not too sure about the Evo anymore. I'm switching to the Nexus.
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I'll most likely pick it up. Despite the cryptographiclly signed bootloader, kernel, and recovery, it will still kick ass. I looked through my apps and realized that there are only a few apps I have that require root access. I'll miss my wireless tether, but Mrs. User has a rooted hero, so I guess I could use hers.
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From what I know about signed bootloaders and stuff, you can still root the phone - you just won't be able to put any custom firmware/roms/kernels/flash radios,etc.
That's why I'm straying away from the 3D as of now.. I compile my own roms and would go crazy if I had to stick with the stock ROM and not be able to load my roms, or at the very least load CM
But at least HTC said they'd "Review their bootloader policy" We'll see if they actually do anything about it though.
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From what I know about signed bootloaders and stuff, you can still root the phone - you just won't be able to put any custom firmware/roms/kernels/flash radios,etc.
That's why I'm straying away from the 3D as of now.. I compile my own roms and would go crazy if I had to stick with the stock ROM and not be able to load my roms, or at the very least load CM
But at least HTC said they'd "Review their bootloader policy" We'll see if they actually do anything about it though.
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Dude, Sprint and HTC could team up and become the modders bastion! Unlimited data combined with the excellent hardware would make them great. Sadly, this throws a wrench into the works.
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I don't think the carriers really have much of a word in things like that (well, except for AT&T with the whole not being able to (easily?) side-load apps), though it's interesting to see other manufacturers becoming more open with their devices, and HTC going the other direction. Hell, even Motorola said they won't release such locked down phones now.
Here's to hoping we get a variant of the G2x.... with qHD.
I didnt know it was coming with a signed BL!! where do you devs get this crazy info at. This might change my plans.
But Yeah the 3d sounds just like a beast, but im just so addicting to moding. Man this is a toughy. I thought HTC was pretty open to opening the BL.. hope they dont pull a Steve Jobs =(
If you want to boycott HTC and still want Sense, get the Nexus S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034130
Its GSM but the CDMA version is coming
coffeehandle said:
I didnt know it was coming with a signed BL!! where do you devs get this crazy info at. This might change my plans.
But Yeah the 3d sounds just like a beast, but im just so addicting to moding. Man this is a toughy. I thought HTC was pretty open to opening the BL.. hope they dont pull a Steve Jobs =(
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Not just the bootloader, but the recovery and the kernel are cryptographically signed. With 256 bit encryption. Virtually uncrackable without a leak from HTC.
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Not just the bootloader, but the recovery and the kernel are cryptographically signed. With 256 bit encryption. Virtually uncrackable without a leak from HTC.
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Thats intense. wonder why the heavy encrypting?
even encryption can be broken
®parallel universe®
MattCrystal said:
even encryption can be broken
®parallel universe®
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I will be AMAZED
if you devs can do that.
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I will be AMAZED
if you devs can do that.
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For a 256, that would be something. But alas, we all have.to.wake up some time.
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Only way I could see it being remotely possible is if we set up one of those distributed computing/"donate your cpu time" clients to have thousands of computers working on cracking the key at the same time.
256-bit keys are srs bisness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brute-force_attack
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Good luck.
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I will be AMAZED
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If you look at what our amazing devs have done already, I would be the least bit surprised if they did it in no time
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If you look at what our amazing devs have done already, I would be the least bit surprised if they did it in no time
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no need, HTC is going to unlock, click link in my sig.
+1 for our amazing devs...let the shameless butt-kissing ensue. Seriously, they've allowed my little Heroc to live on far beyond it's natural life-span.
FWIW about the new phones though, I was tempted, but I'm holding off till the X-mas lineup comes out. As the commercial goes "...then we must teach you to wait." The Evo 3D looks like a solid contender, but I'm shying away from the Nexus S...1) no microsd card support, and 2) it's a samsung (I'm the "proud" owner of two Moments...uuuuugghh).
With rumors about the Nexus 3 being made by HTC and avail on Sprint, if it happens, that's what I'll jump for. Here's hoping!

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