http://gizmodo.com/5748201/10-ways-to-not-make-an-android-tablet
After reading this "article" i have lost all interest in Gizmodo for good. I take more care pooping in a toilet then this rush job they call reporting.
The device looks pretty good.. but not sure what value i could have with it when i have my Streak 5.
Who cares..I am coming from a 3GS and I got sick of this control freak whose name's Steve Jobs.
Apple products are very good,fast,polished and very pricey....it is going to take a while for the iPhone users to get their devices jailbroken and unlocked.It is all about rumors when it comes to that,and lots cat and mouse...Apple keeps releasing new updates and the hackers keep trying to jailbreak with no much success in the last few weeks.
I got tired of a very stable system which does not allow you to download any file unless you purchase a downloader and if you download with it you can't move the files around,they have to stay with such app,you can't install any non-crapple store apps.If you want an unlocked iPhone 4 you might want to sell your car too.
Once again the rumors regarding jailbreak/unlock.....you can see all this online too.
I would much rather have more control of my devices,that's why I pay for them.
Wow way to fuel the apple fanboy retards who are continuously lyeing to themselves everyday believing that just because something has an apple logo on it, its better.
I really dislike gizmodo.
Jobs could slap an apple logo onto a piece of sh$t and you know that they would all happily pay almost $800 for it.
The streak 7 is honestly a solid android tablet. It may not be the "best", but atleast its not another $150 big POS that you can buy at walgreens. Lol.
IMO dell gave it a good shot and they should be proud of have made.
Any publicity is good publicity right.
How can you release a 7 incher and stick on the same 800*480 screen as on the 5 incher
Rubbish and lazy, smartphone screen on a tablet =FAIL
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How can you release a 7 incher and stick on the same 800*480 screen as on the 5 incher
Rubbish and lazy, smartphone screen on a tablet =FAIL
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I agree - not a good thing. With a ton of tablets coming down the pike, as much as I like my 5" Streak, I can't imagine that the 7" Streak will be that compelling given that screen.
So, what's wrong with the article. I think it's spot-on.
I think the article was well written and bang on point. The Streak 7 was a lazy effort and barely worth releasing.
This has nothing to do with apple.
The Streak 7 is lazy. I would say his points are all well taken.
And the Galaxy Tab is nice. I enjoyed my experiences with it.
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Who cares..I am coming from a 3GS and I got sick of this control freak whose name's Steve Jobs.
Apple products are very good,fast,polished and very pricey....it is going to take a while for the iPhone users to get their devices jailbroken and unlocked.It is all about rumors when it comes to that,and lots cat and mouse...Apple keeps releasing new updates and the hackers keep trying to jailbreak with no much success in the last few weeks.
I got tired of a very stable system which does not allow you to download any file unless you purchase a downloader and if you download with it you can't move the files around,they have to stay with such app,you can't install any non-crapple store apps.If you want an unlocked iPhone 4 you might want to sell your car too.
Once again the rumors regarding jailbreak/unlock.....you can see all this online too.
I would much rather have more control of my devices,that's why I pay for them.
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Android all the way!!! Apple can go kill them selfs lol
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Android all the way!!! Apple can go kill them selfs lol
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Hate on Apple all you want, I do and I've had Android devices since January 2008. Bottom line, the iPad is a far better functioning device than any Android tablet currently available. I really think that Honeycomb and the Motorola Xoom will shift things in Android's favour though
I personally think that gizmodo's review is far to brief... see Engadget's review for a much more in depth look at the device. engadget.com/2011/01/31/dell-streak-7-review
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I personally think that gizmodo's review is far to brief... see Engadget's review for a much more in depth look at the device. engadget.com/2011/01/31/dell-streak-7-review
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Agreed. I thought the article was thrown togiether in 5 minutes and the video was done in 30 seconds... I don't care if the device sucks... but if your supposed to be reporting on gadgets that will influence people.. you should take the time to go over the pros and cons...
and recommending the galaxy tab really put it over the top. Like you will ever see an update on that device now that the tab 2 has been announced. Most people won't get burned again by samsung after the galaxy s fiasco.
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How can you release a 7 incher and stick on the same 800*480 screen as on the 5 incher
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Exactly, the person who made the decision seems to be completely having no sense. Why would I buy a 7" tablet if it has the same resolution as 5" Streak,
which is more portable, and light weight. This product is like a formality for the
7" inch tablet. Dell should just keep 5" inch size, and cut another $50 to get more sales(with new CPU and 4G chip).
g4 reviewed it and gave it 5 of 5 stars
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/50951/Dell-Streak-Tablet-Review/
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g4 reviewed it and gave it 5 of 5 stars
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/50951/Dell-Streak-Tablet-Review/
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Read the rest of the thread or don't bother bro
The review you posted was for the 5" Streak, this thread is discussing the 7" Streak.
The problem with the Gizmodo review, is that its not an actual review. They're using a $450 tablet as canon fodder saying its **** n all, but its only selling for $450 (outright)!
If it was priced sans $750 (outright) onwards like the Xoom and LG tablets are going to be priced, then fine, rip its ass out and fcuk it over.
Dell made it cheap (mind you, its just the screen thats rubbish) and is selling it cheap. There are far worse tablets out there right now around the same price, but with half the goodies of the Streak 7 - So sue Dell if they went for the low end of the scale... Take it or leave it - thats the bottom line...
Ive found most websites for example gizmodo, T3, engadget etc favour Apple products, its something ive come to live with. Softpedia is pretty good.
And another thing, everyone always compares mobile devices to iphones/ipads. A friend recently posted on facebook about the motorola xoom and another person commented 'is it an ipad killer tho'. I was like, why would anything need to kill the ipad?
It really grinds my gears.
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Ive found most websites for example gizmodo, T3, engadget etc favour Apple products, its something ive come to live with. Softpedia is pretty good.
And another thing, everyone always compares mobile devices to iphones/ipads. A friend recently posted on facebook about the motorola xoom and another person commented 'is it an ipad killer tho'. I was like, why would anything need to kill the ipad?
It really grinds my gears.
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Hate on Apple all you want but the iPhone and iPad are both excellent devices.
They have, in the past, favoured Apple because most of their products until very recently have had far better out of the box functionality and let's face it, that's what the vast majority of users want. Until recent times of Froyo and Snapdragons I longed to have my phone be as responsive, and have as fast a browser as the iPhone. The Dream and the iPhone 3G came out around the same time in Aus. My Dream, although I loved Android, was amazingly slow next to the iPhone. Furthermore, reviewers are STILL comparing Android phones to the iPhone and even though it has far inferior hardware, it STILL stacks up. How do you think an out of the box Dream would compare to the Desire? If a reviewer compared the two you would say, "yes the Desire is better, but the Dream is older hardware with older software!" Both of these limitations apply equally to the iPhone, yet for many it was the yardstick for the Desire when it was released.
I've never owned an iPhone, only played with mates, and I've owned Android phones since the Dream. I personally think that the iOS user experience is too limiting for me, that's not to say it's bad. I know some people who have as HTC Desire and have never customised the home screens in any way.
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This has been another edition of my $0.02
those websites are in the business of page views. And nothing gets page views like apple does.
Like it or not(i usually dont) people want to know how products stack up against their apple equivalent. Apple has had great products.
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Hate on Apple all you want but the iPhone and iPad are both excellent devices.
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And without owning any of them and using them for a good 2-3 months, how can you justify yourself?
I own both devices, and after the "honeymoon" period of about a month, they're now sitting in my cupboard and about to hit ebay...
I think if you've never owned an Apple product, but get to use a friends for a few minutes, you do love them. But day in, day out, using Apple devices just makes you dumb, and they get boring very quickly with so many restrictions. To keep it interesting you have to continue to buy more apps because the free ones are just rubbish, or worst case, jailbreak to get the features you really want. But, this is rutt that Apple wants you to get into. Get bored, spend more $$. The iPhone & iPad line is all about the revenue, not about the user experience.
To be honest, I've owned every version of the iPhone since its inception in 2007, and its been the same **** but in a different body since then. There have been no Major leaps in software or tech, and the iPhone has almost always been behind in core features (eg, camera, 3G, etc) when you look at their competitors (except maybe for capacitive screens).
I will admit, where Apple products shine is in the looks. Their devices are top notch build (except for the 3G and 3GS plastic case cracks and yellow LCD screens) - but they look very nice, and feel good in the hand.
Its just a pitty that the rest is just rubbish though.
I'm so thankful for Google and Android. Theres loads of choice. And now the Hardware war is about to begin - the first time Apple will be a spectator watching dual core handsets and brilliant tablets bring fluid gaming and a brilliant user experience to all of us.
Theres my $0.02.
Related
http://feeds.appleinsider.com/click.phdo?i=4959b2fd27b40291a6632c6091df317b
Coming from an apple fanboy. I don't take too much stock in it.
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The size factor is a hit or miss based on one's needs. A person that needs to consolidate most of their devices, still be portable enough to fit in a pocket, have great browsing experience, and a phone on top of that, should look no further as Streak will do all of those things. Only the people who actually used the device for a while and for it's true intended purpose (i.e. MID device) appreciate this unique concept.
+1 on the fanboy slant...
I read all the tech blogs when it comes to phones/pdas (most, anyway--who can keep up with all of them) and it seems like the only time Mossburg's name comes up is if it is an Apple product being reviewed.
I chose the Streak for two reasons. One, Android. Two, size. Apple cant compete with the Streak in either variable. If you like iOS, but need the bigger size, the iPad is too big and cant make calls. If you have used and become accustomed to Android's OS, then anything other than iOS is a step backward.
I would say that the Streak made it to the "top of the worst" list, because it is the ONE device that competes with both the iPhone and iPad. Not necessarily an iPhone killer, but possibly the first real "weapon" that can find a chink in Apple's armor...and of all the manufacturers out there, who woulda thunk it would be Dell?
Yea, if that douche is trying to be a viable journalist, he should learn to gather facts. Most importantly, he needs to learn how to bring an unbiased, and educated article to the table, which he does not. It's sad that people will actually read this and jump on board with what he's saying as the views expressed in the articles are shoved down their throats. Sheep I tell ya!
I have an Ipad just bought a couple of weeks ago from TK Maxx for just £265 & must say its great peice of tech only really useful indoors. I use the Dell Streak as my main phone & it suits me perfectly. Can use it as a internet tab, satnav, media player, games player, etc, etc, with a screen I dont need to squint to see & it all fits in my pocket
"the iPhone 4, even with all the new competition and the antenna controversy, is "still the best overall smartphone," said Mossberg."
How can an iPhone be better when:
Must buy a case so you can hold it anyway to talk. FAIL
Have so many pixels and so little screen that you don't take advantage. I mean your finger aren't getting any smaller is it? I love the resolution but at 3.5 inch it is as useful as a 320x240 you can read perfect on ANY of the screens. again FAIL
You are in the middle of the day and for some reason your iphony has 1% battery left and all your mates are android users or even worst NOKIA... so no charger or usb cable what you do? ok buy a battery? NOT. you have to buy a 100$ expansion/case/battery whatever... FAIL
What if I want to put a BIG A55 analog clock on the home screen so my blind eyes can see the time properly? can I do that? FAIL...
Custom ROM? FAIL
Oh yes I'm moving to Antarctica they use CDMA can I use my iphone? FAIL
Well I did found out they don't use CDMA but use GSM can I just get a regular sim for it? FAIL
If I'm not using AT&T can i get price-raped for less please? FAIL
There is a huge list.
I can agree the streak can see a flaw on its size but most of the ppl that owns a streak is because of that.
some people just aren't evolved enough to appreciate the streak...makes me feel sad for them(or mossberg in particular)..
What did you expect. I'd expect to see the same style review, somewhat,
if I went to a rabid Android site, who reviews an iPad or iPhone.
Give the ipad credit when due: it has a touch screen and you can go on the internet.
People just dont understand how amazing this phone is. Slap a apple sign on it and you have a hit.
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Bah whatever... Reviews arent any useful are they
Dell Streak + Tapatalk =
It makes me laugh, when I had my SE X10i I saw these Apple fan-boys posting all kinds of **** about how much better the Iphone was.
When I had my HD2 running Android 2.2 I also saw this ****
Now I have the Streak and guess what this **** is here too.
I can now see why there was a separate iphone developers site created. So all these little idiots can go over there and stop bugging us Android users with the usuall bull**** about how much better their phones are.
I mean im very sorry thet I dont have an iPhone, let me sell my more customizeable, versatile, non anally retentive phone and buy an iPhone so I can be like all the other little sheep out there
The biased factors is too much. I need to be a journalist then. Here is a real opinion. Why does the and how does the streak compete with the ipad? The streak is a mini tablet and phone hybridized into one device while the ipad is just a tablet (giant 3rd generation ipod touch). The streak was a head of its time. If anything i say the iphone 4 didn't meet expectations. I say the best device of 2010 has to be the EVO 4g and i'm not even on Sprints network. It works and works well. It suffers from no problems. Galaxy S= GPS problems. Iphone 4 = antenna problems. All i can say is Mossburg KYS (kill your self) twice.
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All i can say is Mossburg KYS (kill your self) twice.
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Love it
gasolara2002 said:
The biased factors is too much. I need to be a journalist then. Here is a real opinion. Why does the and how does the streak compete with the ipad? The streak is a mini tablet and phone hybridized into one device while the ipad is just a tablet (giant 3rd generation ipod touch). The streak was a head of its time. If anything i say the iphone 4 didn't meet expectations. I say the best device of 2010 has to be the EVO 4g and i'm not even on Sprints network. It works and works well. It suffers from no problems. Galaxy S= GPS problems. Iphone 4 = antenna problems. All i can say is Mossburg KYS (kill your self) twice.
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Ha! I'll give thanks to that! The dude that wrote the article showed that he has no integrity.
For everyone's comedic enjoyment:
These are a bit outdated, but still hilarious none the less:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_can't
And
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone
I just don't understand why the Dell Streak is supposed to take on the iPad. iPad, like someone else mentioned, is really more meant for either home or office only use. You really don't want to travel with that thing, it is huge. If I feel like going to lunch, I'm not going to take an iPad, I'm going to take a connected phone, and the Dell Streak is the best alternative for that.
Of course, this guy is also reviewing the Dell Streak that is Android 1.6. Dell REALLY screwed the pooch with that, because everyone that has switched to Froyo knows how amazing this device is because of THAT.
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All these flame because an article on appleinsider article??? What were you expecting, non apple flavored compliments???
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All these flame because an article on appleinsider article??? What were you expecting, non apple flavored compliments???
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Watch this. I'm going to spread some truth and christmas cheer to that page.
Hello guys my carrier is sending me an iPhone 4 but I can't decide to keep it or sell it and buy Sgs2? Cause I had lots of bad experience with apple before. And have x10 now that I'm happy with but want something better and new.
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These two devices are not to compare... iPhone is ****.
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Hello guys my carrier is sending me an iPhone 4 but I can't decide to keep it or sell it and buy Sgs2? Cause I had lots of bad experience with apple before. And have x10 now that I'm happy with but want something better and new.
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Hm I would sell it and either wait for an iPhone 5 June/July or take the SGS II. It is just about your needs. Big hands and gorgeous screen --> SGS II
Most beautiful apps and polished and awesome build quality: iPhone
decide what you really need and then choose your phone. Making a list should be helpful =)
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These two devices are not to compare... iPhone is ****.
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i like the iphone!
..but you're right
it is like comparing a spork with a drawer full of utensils
SGSII but since it's not out yet, Cappy all the way.
iOS and Android, I will pick Android.
Apple and Samsung, I will pick Apple.
Also.. the iPhone 4 screen shatters with barely a strong glance at the GLASS screen.
Don't mention the word Apple or iPhone on xda. The mentally challenged will come out and bite rabidly. A better place would be HowardForums.
I would sell the iPhone 4 if you are comfortable with an x10. A sealed box will sell for a good price. Then you can wait for the SGS2. The iPhone 5 probably won't be announced until June, which is quite a while. I wouldn't buy anything right now though, since the stuff on the market right now isn't really an upgrade from what you already have.
Notification drawer.
Checkmate.
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Wow.
Where's the ignore button.
OP, if you like the SGS2 then wait for it, or wait for iP5 see what apple puts out.
I am doing that right now, between SGS2 or iP5.
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion). The OS, well they are pretty similar, if you want your phone to just work apple all the way, if you want to customized then go android.
Just be aware that iPhone can also be customized by jailbreaking.
I have a 3GS that's almost 2 years old and it's working as good as day one.
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Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion).
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Reality and personal opinion don't mix sadly. Anyway, depends what you mean by "hardware". Apple A4 was Samsung's Hummingbird, just with a lower clock and a slower GPU. Overall build quality may be better... until it falls and you're left with cracked glass all over the phone. Antennagate? Not sure about the much better now...
Software and integration is another story, that's where iOS definitely wins.
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Wow.
Where's the ignore button.
OP, if you like the SGS2 then wait for it, or wait for iP5 see what apple puts out.
I am doing that right now, between SGS2 or iP5.
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion). The OS, well they are pretty similar, if you want your phone to just work apple all the way, if you want to customized then go android.
Just be aware that iPhone can also be customized by jailbreaking.
I have a 3GS that's almost 2 years old and it's working as good as day one.
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It's all relative to needs.
Sure, the iP is a pretty piece of hardware backed up but the brand fandom. everyone has it, everyone wants one.
As far as jailbreaking goes, the cat and mouse update/jailbreak game with apple gets old really fast... Every update of iOS patches something that dev team fixes and then they fix it and apple releases another update and .... you get the idea.
Jailbreaking every two months, playing with the unlocked baseband and risking ending up with a brick is no fun.
Personally I've decided to move away from every apple product, because apple doesn't necessarily have the greatest most advanced hardware, what they do have is massive marketing department with lots of talented people to make people want those devices (just look at apple product placement in the media).
In the end, it's a matter of usability, preference and what works for the individual; at this point in time, the iP4 is clearly outdated compared (hardware wise) to the devices coming out right now or in the coming month (Atrix, SGS2, etc...) and they will have had 6-7 months to prepare and get the iP5 design ready and produced by June-July-Sept with better hardware based on what they saw coming out from the competition at the CES and other events. By the time apple is done promoting their revolutionary iP5, Motorola, HTC and Samsuncg will have come up with somthing better based on the iP5 specs...
The cel phone war will never end, it will be the eternal peeing contest between large companies. As far as the consumer is concerned, we're just trapped in a vicious cycle we have created.
For me what weighs in, is the ability to have full control of my device. Therefore iP is a no go and thus a lesser device in my perception. Atrix was on top of the list until the Moto fiasco with the signed bootloader. The remaining option is the SGS2 depending on how easy it will be to update without relying on Samsung to do so.
On a side note, I've been using a iP3G since it came out and haven't upgraded the device, so I've been with it for almost 4 years; and seeing all these new android devices coming out everyday makes me hate it more day by day.
Android, for me, offers many more possibilities of growth than iOS will ever be able give me. I am not limited by a company as far as what I can do with the hardware that I hold in my hands.
I would rather take an operating system that is designed to let me do anything to it per my own needs and requirements than one that is marketed to the masses for mass consumption. There is nothing wrong with either, it is all preference. Apps fail to interest me as I have a busy and fun enough life to not care about too many of them In fact many people around me have pages of apps which i rarely see being launched except for the odd score checking/email app.
There is no point in comparison of the phone. In fact I would like it if Android makes its own features and chooses its direction instead of following iOS.
Well I would say to just use for a little while and see if you like it. If you do, great. If you don't, sell it.
Either way you could sell one now or keep both and sell both layer then the SG2 comes out.
Did anyone get the iPhone reference in Archer? I totally loled
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I agree. That's funny though. I actually just walked past a group of people with iPads and I just thought to myself, man, these people just have no idea. Well you know what they say, ignorance is idiocy, oops, I mean bliss.
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I agree. That's funny though. I actually just walked past a group of people with iPads and I just thought to myself, man, these people just have no idea. Well you know what they say, ignorance is idiocy, oops, I mean bliss.
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Hello Pot, meet kettle.
Papi4baby said:
Wow.
Where's the ignore button.
OP, if you like the SGS2 then wait for it, or wait for iP5 see what apple puts out.
I am doing that right now, between SGS2 or iP5.
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion). The OS, well they are pretty similar, if you want your phone to just work apple all the way, if you want to customized then go android.
Just be aware that iPhone can also be customized by jailbreaking.
I have a 3GS that's almost 2 years old and it's working as good as day one.
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LMFAO, There's sucker born every day...
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I love it when people say to get the iPhone if you just want it to work aand Android for customization.
If I do recall, I have never had any problems installing anything from the market on my phone; and everything else aalso just "works" along with more customization.
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Hello Pot, meet kettle.
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So yeah.. seems like the iPhone 5 wont be announced until September.. which means SGSII will be safe for another few months.
I'm just joking.. or am i?
Iv just had so many problems with the SGSII... I just dont know what phone to get right now.. since the SII is the best out. I dont want to buy it again.
Iv never owned an apple product before.. but my brother has owned lots..
Wish they announced it so i could compare the two and see which one is the best
---- IF it is the SII then i might have to go back to it >.>... so i hope they do something good with the iphone
Fanboys gtfo thanks.
No phone is perfect but remember when you buy an iphone no flash, no flash, no flash...it's not that it's not possible to run run but apple have decided for you the user experience it just not good enough, you can't even try it for yourself and remove if you don't like it or keep it even if a half baked flash is good enough for you, nope apple have made the choice for you: no flash!
Expect to wait a while longer than september. The iphone 4 plus will be coming first with some minor improvements but no major changes.
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And you know it's not only that I dislike the apple mentality of them making the (right) choices for me I also despise apple as a company, I am a free market capitalist at heart and very seldom find companies evil but apple is one such rare company:
the way they abuse patents and trademarks (ie. steal ideas from small companies) and patent/trademark them and then sue the inventing company is truly evil.
I'm sick of my iPhone 4. I've been a hardcore blackberry user for years, and yes, while the experience wasn't as nice, it was A LOT more open than iOS. iOS has some good ideas, unifying a single format / layout, and all its apps follow the same guidelines, which makes it a good phone for people that know NOTHING about phones! A friend of mine DECIDES to pay THAT Much more for an iMac just because "it works right away, I don't need to configure anything" and Apple products are basically that... "It works without having to do anything" I personally jailbroke mine, and I still can't stand it. Apps apps apps apps! No personalization past ordering up the apps, and 2 pictures (lock screen and behind the apps).
I think Android will be safe for a very long time. They run on a different market. Not to mention, Apple sells things WAY over priced. The iPhone 4 16 gigs cost me the same RIGHT NOW as my SGSII (which should be here at ANYYYYY moment! Come on vodafone! It was shipped! GET TO MY DOOR!)
Apple makes good products for a good demographic, but you also need to understand that the majority of the population doesn't want to configure, or decide. The simpler the better. My BEST FRIEND of 15 years now has a blackberry and an iphone, still, she only texts and uses facebook. Hmmm....
Regardless, you shouldn't see it as "the SGSII is in danger or safe" as it's the family of Android phones. You don't see people saying "Oh no! The iPhone 3G is in danger! But there are 2 other models out! BUT POOR 3G!" No, who cares! more choices = better, for us!
Smartphones BEFORE the iPhone were pretty much all resistive screens, tiny ones, big and bulky. The iPhone has helped us out. The more Apple "revolutionizes" (AKA. taking something that has been there for years, making it pretty, and calling it new) the better for us!
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Smartphones BEFORE the iPhone were pretty much all resistive screens, tiny ones, big and bulky. The iPhone has helped us out. The more Apple "revolutionizes" (AKA. taking something that has been there for years, making it pretty, and calling it new) the better for us!
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Really the first multitouch capacitive touchscreen build in 1972! when apple introduced it, they meant they dug it up from a grave and reanimated it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-touch
The only thing i dislike about andriod phones are that there are so many with lots of different specs.. I cant just download any app and use it right away. As for iOS there is only one phone each year that uses it.. which makes it more easy to download any app you want and use it right away.
I hate downloading apps just to find out that it crashes, lags or doesnt even start up.
I like andriod OS better then iOS.. but like i said.. there are too many phones using the andriod OS.
As for Macs.. yeah.. i think they are worthless. You pay so much more money for something that is less powerful than a custom built PC.
I built my PC a few months back and i also got a 27" 2560x1440 monitor (to match up with the iMac 27" screen)
It cost like £100 more for my PC but its 100times more powerful than any iMac.
Also.. the reason why the iPhone4 is still the same price is cause apple only lowers it once a new iphone comes out. They know that people will still forke out that much cash for an iphone.. unlike samsung nokia htc etc.. they always lower the price of their phones cause they just bring out so many per year that they have to.
I really don't think iphone5 would've affected SGS2 sales that much. I'm preety sure I5 will be a good phone but not better than SGS2.
I think Samsung s2 better than any iPhone
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I think Samsung s2 better than any iPhone
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your right.. its better than any iphone.. out right now... unless you can tell the future
My personal uneducated guess would be that the iPhone 5 will be a speed bumped iPhone 4 shipped along with iOS 5.
Which in the end, still doesn't make it better than the Galaxy S2 right now.
Do you really think people cross-shop iOS and Android? Apple people follow their leaders cult-like and keep re-purchasing Apple products. For people that want easy and consistent, nothing beats an iPhone. But those same two points, especially the second one, is what make people turn away. I for one can't stand the banal conformity of Apple products and can't see myself becoming one of the Borg. To test the theory, go to an iPhone forum and post a question about iOS vs. Android. They'll skin you alive.
If you are okay with a smaller screen, having to manage music,photos,video library via iTunes (having a mac helps ) then even an iPhone 4 is a nice choice.
It has unrivaled battery life, does everything its supposed to do pretty good, has enough apps to keep you busy (if you are a heavy apps user that is) etc.
Me, I couldn't get used to a 3.5 screen after using a captivate for a week, the itunes is horrible on my windows machine, drag and drop ain't bad and the retina hype is not enough to match the super amoled awesomeness....
Its all preference, IMO try your options if you can, and settle for what is good for you. I am here today because flashing my captivate and the screen plus music playback is awesome, and battery life after modded is almost on par with iPhone 4. So all good for me.
What you like may be hated or laughed at by another, and that's life.
i wouldnt be able to live with a 3.5" screen. There have been rumors that the new iphone will have atleast 4" screen.. if not then i wont even think about buying it.
My opinion: I don't think Apple will be releasing a mind-blowing, bar-setting iPhone 5 this year.
Perhaps next year, iPhone 6 will be.
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i wouldnt be able to live with a 3.5" screen. There have been rumors that the new iphone will have atleast 4" screen.. if not then i wont even think about buying it.
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Please don't forget that the iPhone is a device mainly targeted for the women crowd (can't remember where I read that over 70% of iPhone users are women). As such, it can't get bigger than 3.5" screen, since their small hands couldn't handle it.
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Please don't forget that the iPhone is a device mainly targeted for the women crowd (can't remember where I read that over 70% of iPhone users are women). As such, it can't get bigger than 3.5" screen, since their small hands couldn't handle it.
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Hmm...Atrix 4G spots a 4" screen but the phone itself is about the same size as the iphone
i think the OP has made a decision that he should buy IPhone simply because he is fed up with one or two annoying features of SGS2.... is that true my friend ???
just because of 1 or 2 features which u might like it better on iphone, dont make ur decision of buying an iphone 5.... because no matter what, SGS2 can beat the iphone 5 right out of the box... in addition to that, so many customizations r coming including the CM7... which is great... u never feel the same as before...
so be patient & wait for some more time... then u give us ur openion... which inturn will be favouring SGS2 i am sure....
till then enjoy the positive things about ur SGS2....
One of the reasons why I moved from the iPhone 4 to the S2 is because every 2nd person I see has an iPhone 4, it was depressing.
And the inability to change notification sounds meant that whenever I heard the notification tone play, I had to second guess if it was my phone.
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My opinion: I don't think Apple will be releasing a mind-blowing, bar-setting iPhone 5 this year.
Perhaps next year, iPhone 6 will be.
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Until Apple decide to change the way they make their iPhones, android will still be way up top.
Even when iPhone 6 comes out, the SGS3 will probably be 2x better lol.
Also, the majority of iPhone users who purchase an iPhone don't even know what android can do/is capable of and assume iPhone will always be the best phone out...
I was going to buy an iPhone but the only thing appealing about is iTunes.
Beating iPad2.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15559778
Braindead media experts are in shock that their beloved Apple did not win it.
However anyone with any sense already knew this. I mean the Transformer beats the iPad2 in every respect.
* 7x the camera megapixel count.
* 20% more screen resolution.
* USB2 ports
* Dock with double battery life
* Lower cost
A win for great technology over average technology and slick marketing.
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"Despite the iPad 2 being a finer tablet in the purest sense, the Asus Eee Pad Transformer offers so much more," Stuff's consulting editor, Simon Osborne-Walker, told the BBC.
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but seriously the TF deserves it
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Asus is expected to launch a successor hybrid device within the coming weeks. Analysts say the new version is likely to include a faster processor and the latest version of Google's Android system.
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are these so called experts living under a rock or something?
I'd love for them to define how it's actually "finer tablet in the purest sense,"..
I mean if any other company launched a tablet with a main camera with a pathetic 700k pixel camera, when even cheapo smartphones have 5Mpixels camera, they would be absolutely slated.
It's a vicious cycle of course, all these "experts" only know iPad2, because they simply can't be bothered to look elsewhere (and many of them get complimentary review iPad2 units to keep, so why bother..), so just assume that it's the best because it's best selling, and it's best selling just cements that further...
well personally i find alot of apple customers to be borderline obsessed with apple products..... its kinda scary, the power that marketing has on people with weaker minds :/
The Asus Transformer has won Stuff Magazine's Gadget of the Year award beating the iPad 2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15559778
In reply to below. I checked before posting this. At the time this thread did not exist. We must have posted within minutes of each other. It happens. Millions of people in different time zones all with the power to press "Save"
Really dude. There is another thread one thread over from this one pertaining to this very thing. Please help keep the forum clean of endless, useless posts.
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well personally i find alot of apple customers to be borderline obsessed with apple products..... its kinda scary, the power that marketing has on people with weaker minds :/
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No ****, I'm married to one. She won't even consider Android anything anymore. She has made it clear her next phone will be the iPhone 5 and we sold the iPad and she is using my Transformer and *****es about it EVERY SINGLE DAY demanding she get an iPad 2. Yet...one of the main things she wants to do is Skype (with family) which is much better on the Transformer due to the camera but she just doesn't get it. Oh, did I mention she has never even used an iPhone before, but she said she just knows its better...
So, in an effort to stave off a domestic violence situation and/or divorce...we are buying a stupid iPad 2 today.
I love her in every other way...but her understanding of technology is a disappointment. I guess no one is perfect...well...except us here in the forums.
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No ****, I'm married to one. She won't even consider Android anything anymore. She has made it clear her next phone will be the iPhone 5 and we sold the iPad and she is using my Transformer and *****es about it EVERY SINGLE DAY demanding she get an iPad 2. Yet...one of the main things she wants to do is Skype (with family) which is much better on the Transformer due to the camera but she just doesn't get it. Oh, did I mention she has never even used an iPhone before, but she said she just knows its better...
So, in an effort to stave off a domestic violence situation and/or divorce...we are buying a stupid iPad 2 today.
I love her in every other way...but her understanding of technology is a disappointment. I guess no one is perfect...well...except us here in the forums.
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hahaha ... LMAO xD
well i totally agree with ya dude .. well im new in TF family .. have ordered my TF will be getting it on the 26th or 27th of this month ..
well now adays what i've experianced is .. when i ever i see an Apple user and i take my Galaxy S i9000 out .. and we start the debate ... and after all humiliation to that apple user .. they say .. STFU Apple is Apple ..
lol .. no wards to say nything ... and that makes me rofl
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So, in an effort to stave off a domestic violence situation and/or divorce...we are buying a stupid iPad 2 today.
I love her in every other way...but her understanding of technology is a disappointment. I guess no one is perfect...well...except us here in the forums.
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Who will pay? If you then do not buy! Ask him why Apple is the best and if the answer is so foolish, he is a believer in Apple. Apple fan boys and girls are the worst. Android is in many ways better than iOS.
yay for competition driving market improvements!
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Who will pay? If you then do not buy! Ask him why Apple is the best and if the answer is so foolish, he is a believer in Apple. Apple fan boys and girls are the worst. Android is in many ways better than iOS.
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True .....
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No ****, I'm married to one. She won't even consider Android anything anymore. She has made it clear her next phone will be the iPhone 5 and we sold the iPad and she is using my Transformer and *****es about it EVERY SINGLE DAY demanding she get an iPad 2. Yet...one of the main things she wants to do is Skype (with family) which is much better on the Transformer due to the camera but she just doesn't get it. Oh, did I mention she has never even used an iPhone before, but she said she just knows its better...
So, in an effort to stave off a domestic violence situation and/or divorce...we are buying a stupid iPad 2 today.
I love her in every other way...but her understanding of technology is a disappointment. I guess no one is perfect...well...except us here in the forums.
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My wife is the exact same!!!!!!
Except her drama is with an HTC Desire Z (she "had" to have a hard keyboard lol). Which although she has never had an iphone, claims it has no problems and would work perfectly unlike the daily rubbish desire Z lol
The TF gets the same abuse, never used an ipad but claims it would be better because Polaris office doesn't have a spell check (to be fair it is a bit annoying but hardly a reason to condemn an entire device to the bin lol - oh and the browser's quick controls confuse her lol).
I dont understand these people what is wrong with them why have a slower processor less ram a crap camera updates that come out once in a blue moon and a market where almost nothing usefull is free and a system thats under more control than a chinese media centre
I admit time wise ios has the phd and android is still a student but that student is a prodogy
Maybe you're wifes and girlfriends will learn once they actally buy the iphone five and you have a kal el powered android phone
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lol i guess im one of the few lucky ones here my girlfriend and I swear by android
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lol i guess im one of the few lucky ones here my girlfriend and I swear by android
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I have to admit, sometimes I swear at android
Way to go Asus though. My transformer is the best gadget I've ever owned. I've finally been able to ditch my HP laptop for business meetings.
Because it's Apple; 'nough said. If I had so many froathy mouthed lunatic fans as the cult of the Mac' then I would invent a thermo-nuclear death ray and direct them to take over the world for me. Hehe.
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No ****, I'm married to one. She won't even consider Android anything anymore. She has made it clear her next phone will be the iPhone 5 and we sold the iPad and she is using my Transformer and *****es about it EVERY SINGLE DAY demanding she get an iPad 2. Yet...one of the main things she wants to do is Skype (with family) which is much better on the Transformer due to the camera but she just doesn't get it. Oh, did I mention she has never even used an iPhone before, but she said she just knows its better...
So, in an effort to stave off a domestic violence situation and/or divorce...we are buying a stupid iPad 2 today.
I love her in every other way...but her understanding of technology is a disappointment. I guess no one is perfect...well...except us here in the forums.
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I'm blessed, because my fiancee generally takes a "That's retarded!" view of such things; be it blind Apple Fanboyism (It's just better because it's Apple) or pretty much anything else like that. Wouldn't be surprised if she went iPhone should she someday take a smart phone, which is perfectly fine with me. It really is a major pleasure to have someone like I do, and knowing that the girl I love can apply her mind even there: rather than joining the mindless mob. I love that Firefly.
Differences like what you've got to deal with are probably ineveable in any relationship IMHO but at least you don't have to trade in all your crap for iCrap lol.
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iOS is only good if you Jailbreak it. Without Cydia iOS sux. It's slow and clunky. The true tech savvy person knows that Android rules over iOS in every aspect except for ergonomics. Apple still has the thinnest phones and pads.
Asus really won me over with my transformer, I have an iPhone 4 and i decided to go android for my tablet to get sense of them, now i can't stand using my iPhone it just doesn't do what I want it to do and I know my next phone will be a Nexu phone... except i have another ytwo years on my contract.... Damn you Canada and your 3 year contracts
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No ****, I'm married to one. She won't even consider Android anything anymore. She has made it clear her next phone will be the iPhone 5 and we sold the iPad and she is using my Transformer and *****es about it EVERY SINGLE DAY demanding she get an iPad 2. Yet...one of the main things she wants to do is Skype (with family) which is much better on the Transformer due to the camera but she just doesn't get it. Oh, did I mention she has never even used an iPhone before, but she said she just knows its better...
So, in an effort to stave off a domestic violence situation and/or divorce...we are buying a stupid iPad 2 today.
I love her in every other way...but her understanding of technology is a disappointment. I guess no one is perfect...well...except us here in the forums.
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I'm sorry to hear. My better half was the opposite. I really tried to convince her to get an ipad 2 since she was computer illiterate. But she wouldn't have it. She wanted what I had. So we went out to get her a tf.
AcIdC0R3 said:
iOS is only good if you Jailbreak it. Without Cydia iOS sux. It's slow and clunky. The true tech savvy person knows that Android rules over iOS in every aspect except for ergonomics. Apple still has the thinnest phones and pads.
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Without jailbreak you can change the socks and with jailbreak you can change shoes. So it's not a big deal. Without root allows you to do more than jailbreaked iOS device.
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Apple still has the thinnest phones and pads.
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Samsung Galaxy 10.1 is "much" thinner 8.6 mm (iPad 8.8 mm.)
I don't have a note yet,(epic touch 4g user), but I really want one..
Anyways, I thought you would get a kick out of seeing what a iPhone users' reaction was when confronted with a challenge from this phone..
Funny stuff!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2gjn12QS9I&feature=player_embedded
"My phone cant do anything that phone can"
Priceless.
I love reading the comments and iPhone Fanboys getting mad.
yep, the comments are even funnier than the video!
Ha! Yeah, the comments are great. It's almost like some people are offended by it's existence, and HAVE to hate on it.
In saying that, it was a pretty unfair test. But in saying THAT, she is the 'typical' iPhone user.
They were just showing the "unique" features powered by the S-Pen.
Kinda don't see the point :\
Comments are funny!
I agree the tests were too slanted toward the Note, but it was designed to show what it can do that the iPhone cannot. I am not sure you cannot get an app to edit PowerPoint files, but the rest would be quite difficult without some very sophisticated software. The photo editing and screenshot / drawing is all, but it makes a great point!
The fact is this is marketing. Nothing has to be true or fair. As is being argued in comments, Apple tried exactly this with the caricatures of the Apple vs PC users. Payback's a *****, guys!
I believe the iPhone was a great phone when it was created. The iPad was also a great idea, much better than the laggy Windows Tablets. Some of the best things about these have been copied in Android. The painful truth is that the phone and pad have not improved. The painful reason is the same one that Apple, who started with the first commonly available GUI (I know about X-Windows, before you start, heck, I used to use it, but it was not in common use). That reason is a lack of change. The reason for that reason? A closed platform, and for both hardware and software.
Look at what happened to the very open architecture of the IBM PC in the same time frame. Look what is happening to Android devices in the same time frame. I think the reason for the stagnation is clear.
Love it. The ismall can't compete
From the Beast : Galaxy Note
Prior to the GNote I had owned every iteration of iPhone since it was first released (preceded by Windows Mobile phones, Pocket PC's, and almost every model of Palm devices up to the IIIc). So far, the GNote is by far the most functional device I have owned. Since I am using it to replace a 4s and iPad 2, I have not found it to be too large - in fact, if it was another 1/2 inch I wouldn't mind (that's what she said <g>).
Anyways, no regrets with my decision to jump ship. Great device!
The comments are what makes the video.
it's a little sad that even though the note has its major advantages over ip4s, commercials like this will most likely return as bad publicity
As much as I love the Note, and as much as I love seeing Android put Apple to shame, I do think it would be a much fairer test if the 4S were pitted up against the GS2 i9100. The GS2 was considered the best smartphone of 2011, and it's no wonder! Love that thing!
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it's a little sad that even though the note has its major advantages over ip4s, commercials like this will most likely return as bad publicity
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Don't they say that any publicity is good?
Yeah the comparison is stacked as I can do all those things with my wife's Iphone albeit with third party apps and so would any self respecting geek. Then again so are Iphone commercials, as is latest windows challenge.
It is almost imperative that advertising not be fair.
The reality is that the lady is just average consumer and as such, they are pretty dumb.
Hell, in my immediately circle of family and friends there's about 20 iphones and none of them know anything past calling, checking messages, emails and Facebook.
Not cool Sammy
I Love the Galaxy Note, but this time I feel embarrassed and ashamed by this ad.
Samsung went too low with this.
If I go to the street with my 7 year old Windows Mobile, and run a similar test against most recent android phones, what will I prove?
Besides, there are capacitive stylus for iPhones, and if it was an iPhone user with one of these capacitive stylus to make a similar add against any unprepared android user, it will have the same result.
I understand there are a lot of iPhone haters around here, but one thing is that we know our phone is better that an iPhone for many reasons, other is to offend and ridicule others because they don't follow you.
The original web ads about the features were so much more "Woweeee! I want that!" for me....
Just ran a sun spider bench mark and got 1331. So a lot better than 4s. Its obvious how the devices differ and which device is clearly superior. No idea why apple fan boys get so crazy when a better device than theirs gets released though. If another company releases a higher spec device... why does it matter. Its almost certainly gonna happen to us note users at some point. But I take pride at the moment.
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Soooo many dislikes on that video. We have to spread the word on this.
The point is: They got your attention and got YOU talking.
Its already a success due to that.
Apple already does similar marketing strategies. So I dont get why there's so much hate
Oh i am so in love with that girl. And now she she like Android so all is well
I wouldn't say "speechless". ***** wouldn't stop talking.
What I don't understand is why so many Note users dislike this ad so much. It's not like this is the only commercial out there that is 'unfair' to its competition.