Root + Market without a custom ROM - Adam General

Hi. Apparently, my Adam will be shipped in14th of February, but I want to learn a way to have the market before that.
I'm kind a person who doesn't like to flash his device. I want market without a custom ROM.
Is it possible? If it is, please post the solution to here to make this thread a how-to guide for us.
Thanks

All of the custom roms so far just add in the market and root. Adam apple also adds support for connecting to Ad-hoc wifi as well which is very nice.
No matter what, you will have to flash something in order to get root and the market. But no fear, it is a very simple and painless process. I have already done it many times on my adam. Another great thing is the restore files that Notion Ink release, pretty much fixes any bad flash.

you need google services in order to use the Android Market. That's what the whole rooting is all about

can90 said:
Hi. Apparently, my Adam will be shipped in14th of February, but I want to learn a way to have the market before that.
I'm kind a person who doesn't like to flash his device. I want market without a custom ROM.
Is it possible? If it is, please post the solution to here to make this thread a how-to guide for us.
Thanks
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I think what you are wanting is here: http://notioninkhacks.com/index.php...k-adam-update-root-market-adhoc-how-to-guide/

Blue_Alien said:
All of the custom roms so far just add in the market and root. Adam apple also adds support for connecting to Ad-hoc wifi as well which is very nice.
No matter what, you will have to flash something in order to get root and the market. But no fear, it is a very simple and painless process. I have already done it many times on my adam. Another great thing is the restore files that Notion Ink release, pretty much fixes any bad flash.
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Can I return to original ROM without any pain if I don't like the custom ROM?

The easiest way would be to use clockworkmod to make a backup. Then you install whatever you want, if you don't like it, you restore the backup.
However, I will say that there is not much of a "ROM" per say out at the moment. They are all just modifications to the stock Adam build, or enhancements.

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Can the OTA update be rooted?

I'm just gonna stick with rooting. Will rooting hold up against the update or will I have to nandroid unlock and flash a stock rooted rom?
This has been asked several times. Please visit the Android development section and you will see. A little searching doesn't hurt.
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Well there is so much information being thrown around at the moment, that I haven't been able to find a stock rooted 1.47.xx rom, either, and all I do is search.
OP: If you find it, let me know and I will do the same.
thats because one doesnt exist.
Use a patched version of the OTA or a ROM with it baked in and you keep root. Flash non-patched OTA and you loose root. eazy-peazy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
the OTA will break your root.
however, if you've already done that, you can reroot since the most recent OTA has been rooted.
Short answer is yes.
Long answer will involve you going to a different sub forum for evo and looking it up.
nenn said:
thats because one doesnt exist.
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Ha! Thanks.....believe it or not, that actually explains a lot. I think I'll wait for a stock rooted rom to be available.
Things can change quite quickly around here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Herein lies the answer to your quest. ;-)
seankent4uf said:
Things can change quite quickly around here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Herein lies the answer to your quest. ;-)
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Yea, I saw that earlier, but this is for people who upgraded via the OTA 1.47.xx and then lost root. For this to work for me, I'd have to willingly upgrade to the OTA, and then run through these steps. I don't think I want to do that.
I'm in the process of unlocking NAND now since I'm going to need to have that done in order to proceed with anything related to 1.47.xx, so once I get this done, I'll worry about finding something that works.
I am pretty sure this is what you are looking for... It is a Rooted rom, based off the 1.47 update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
or this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
which one of those work?
I was actually running the first of the 2 links myself, since I was having major problems with my EVO, and could only use limited ROMs. It was very reliable, but I wanted the flexibility to run other ROMs. I have not run the one posted in the 2nd link, but from some of the replies, it works well also. If you are already rooted, and are comfortable flashing ROMs, I would recommend the first, since it loads just like any other ROM. It all depends on how much work you want to do.

A Newbie needs Help?

Hi Guys,ive had my A500 for a couple of weeks now and i love it -------- im a Tablet/Computer DUMMY, can you PLEASE tell me what is "ROOTING" ?
I ask as ive read a lot about it on here and wonder if i should do it.
I will give you a different view then some I would imagine. My answer is do not bother with "Rooting".
In short, it gives you access to the files you would not normally see or need on a normal usage basis.
I would suggest you continue to use the A500 as is with out rooting it until you either find the device simply does not function as you want, or you continue to read the threads and decide you wish to try it out.
Having said that and is found in another thread simply rooting is not dangerous. But, I would say if you are new to computers/tablets that little value would be added to your experience so simply enjoy your A500.
Thankyou for your reply
install a file manger from market
install the apk from the list in this link
if you are on 3.1 install version 1.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
once you downloade the file click and install the apk from you file manager
install acer recover installer from market
open the app and click install recovery rom 1.3 thor something
reboot to recovery and install what ever rom you like
Rooting grants you access to system files you would not normally have access to.
If you don't know what it is, or don't know what the risks are, I wouldn't recommend doing it ... But I can't stop you from rooting
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e
rooting
This gives you access to operation system files. Rooting your device is a must to get access to advance setting and change the way your tablet functions. First some reasons to not root
1.you avoid your warranty
2.you make your system easily available for mistakes to cause it to no longer being usable.
reasons average users root
1.can install advance control apps
2.can do complete backups thou not really need if you are not root access
3.hacks like the Netflix fix.adding ad-hoc support for tethering to phone
DO NOT ROOT UNTIL YOU DONT HAVE TO ASK THERR SIMPLE QUESTIONS
With that said all the answers are here in this forum.thanks to all the wonderful developers and advanced users.
Good luck. Empower yourself for a better android experience.
The blonde geeky chic
Thanks Guys and Gals----------think i wont bother at the moment,i will just spend more time learning about my Tablet!
cyberma007 said:
install a file manger from market
install the apk from the list in this link
if you are on 3.1 install version 1.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
once you downloade the file click and install the apk from you file manager
install acer recover installer from market
open the app and click install recovery rom 1.3 thor something
reboot to recovery and install what ever rom you like
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What are you talking about? You should read the question & previous comments before you go & post up a how-to..
But if he want to do it, this would help
I am sure sooner or latter he will!
I don't want to be mean or anything, but your "tutorial" is kind of hard to understand ... And there already are thousands of tutorials on how to root.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S running a custom rom made of Rainbows, Unicorn Hair, and Pixie Dust.
Oh dear im sorry if ive upset people it was not my intention---------------
BUT thankyou for the "HOW TO " Im a newbie as i said and needing as much help as i can get with my A500 and yes im sure as i learn more i will want to "Root"
the merits of the root
For me, the root brought netflix, not sure if there is a way to get it yet without root. Yep, use my tab with netflix while i run my 5 miles in the gym (ok i walk most of the way, enough to see an entire movie, or email or whatnot. Worth the price of the tab right there.
leiko49 said:
For me, the root brought netflix, not sure if there is a way to get it yet without root. Yep, use my tab with netflix while i run my 5 miles in the gym (ok i walk most of the way, enough to see an entire movie, or email or whatnot. Worth the price of the tab right there.
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Not the only thing that a root can do
Sent from my magical HTC Wildfire S.
While I am not a dev, I have spent a great many years around *nix systems. Rooting, in itself, is not difficult nor dangerous. The danger is in the new abilities to modify system parameters which should be left alone by those without sufficient knowledge. Acer has provided a utility to allow for system restore and some backup abilities which should be sufficient for most new users. With android, as with any OS, knowledge is power. I usually suggest new users gain knowledge about the system before tampering with root.
I am new to the acer community but some of you may have seen me on the nook color or huawei s7 forums and I am starting development work on the webos forums. As I said before, I am not a dev (yet) but I believe everyone should understand a concept before blindly rushing into the fray.
I will get off my soapbox now and go play. Enjoy your new acer...
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Attn: New Xoom Users

For all you guys and gals looking to root and enjoy the goodness of custom ROMs and kernels, PLEASE don't go digging up ancient rooting methods and old, obsolete kernels and other ephemera. There are more old, outdated threads floating around page one in the Development Section and people are getting themselves in trouble, or at least frustrated with dead links, etc.
If you want to root or customize, make sure the method/ROM/Kernel at least works for your Honeycomb version.
If anyone started an older thread in Development that is outdated now, could you consider putting "obsolete" in the title, like Team Tiamat did with Manta Ray and Katana?
We're going to be seeing a lot of new development soon, so maybe we can clean up the joint a little? OK, I'm done now.
Good call. I've had my Xoom since late September and it took me forever to figure out what was current here and what was not. I did figure it out though, and have my Xoom running exactly the same as in your sig.
Bairman said:
Good call. I've had my Xoom since late September and it took me forever to figure out what was current here and what was not. I did figure it out though, and have my Xoom running exactly the same as in your sig.
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Good going! But it would have been nice if you could have put your finger right on the latest mods and guides, without fighting your way through all the flotsam, right?
okantomi said:
Good going! But it would have been nice if you could have put your finger right on the latest mods and guides, without fighting your way through all the flotsam, right?
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Exactly... and that's why my first post to the forum was my response here. I'm usually a lurk and learn kinda guy, but your post was so apropos I had to chime in.
Yeah, def took a little while to sort thru what was current and relevant, especially after 4G modifications...
Hmm, since I picked up some of the new Adobe apps I've been thinking I should start allocating some time everyday to figure out how to root/install roms so I can OC my Xoom (I get a bit of lag here and there).
What would you guys recommend I do? Before I read this I was just about to dive into the numerous threads and poke around, but I can see myself following a possibly outdated method. Tiamat seems to be pretty popular, but with ICS coming soon, should I wait a bit to see if I can put that on my Xoom?
edit: should mention that I'm on 3.1 Wifi Xoom.
Jeffu said:
Hmm, since I picked up some of the new Adobe apps I've been thinking I should start allocating some time everyday to figure out how to root/install roms so I can OC my Xoom (I get a bit of lag here and there).
What would you guys recommend I do? Before I read this I was just about to dive into the numerous threads and poke around, but I can see myself following a possibly outdated method. Tiamat seems to be pretty popular, but with ICS coming soon, should I wait a bit to see if I can put that on my Xoom?
edit: should mention that I'm on 3.1 Wifi Xoom.
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You have a couple options-both good ones: you can root and install ClockworkMod Recovery and. the Tiamat Moray ROM and the new Odachi kernel using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798 (get Odachi kernel from Development thread), and then wait a short time for our developers to cook up some ICS ROMS/kernels. Or, remain stock unrooted so you can get the ICS update OTA. Just be aware the unlocking will result in wiping your device and flashing a new rom will require a data wipe, so make sure to back-up everything. When you root, back-ups are much easier and restoration much more comprhensive--another great reason to root your Xoom.
okantomi said:
You have a couple options-both good ones: you can root and install ClockworkMod Recovery and. the Tiamat Moray ROM and the new Odachi kernel using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798 (get Odachi kernel from Development thread), and then wait a short time for our developers to cook up some ICS ROMS/kernels. Or, remain stock unrooted so you can get the ICS update OTA. Just be aware the unlocking will result in wiping your device and flashing a new rom will require a data wipe, so make sure to back-up everything. When you root, back-ups are much easier and restoration much more comprhensive--another great reason to root your Xoom.
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Thanks for the reply!
I never got too deep into rooting and roms; at most I've just used one of those one-click-root apps for my Captivate, but since I went 3.2 even that's unrooted now. I miss Titanium Backup.
I'm about to head to sleep so I haven't looked, but is it expected that our Xooms will get ICS? I mainly want a faster experience, but ICS looks pretty so I'd like to get that too without having to get a new device.
edit: I think I'll give that link a go tomorrow after work.
Jeffu said:
Thanks for the reply!
I never got too deep into rooting and roms; at most I've just used one of those one-click-root apps for my Captivate, but since I went 3.2 even that's unrooted now. I miss Titanium Backup.
I'm about to head to sleep so I haven't looked, but is it expected that our Xooms will get ICS? I mainly want a faster experience, but ICS looks pretty so I'd like to get that too without having to get a new device.
edit: I think I'll give that link a go tomorrow after work.
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okantomi's guide is great. It's what I ended up using. One point to note, if you're planning to use the Moray ROM, step five isn't necessary since Moray is pre-rooted. Adding the Odachi kernel makes it run velvety smooth.
Everything I've read says that not only will the Xoom get ICS, it may be the first tablet to get it.
Bairman said:
okantomi's guide is great. It's what I ended up using. One point to note, if you're planning to use the Moray ROM, step five isn't necessary since Moray is pre-rooted. Adding the Odachi kernel makes it run velvety smooth.
Everything I've read says that not only will the Xoom get ICS, it may be the first tablet to get it.
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Thanks for the reminder. I'll make a note of it in the Guide. I don't want anyone to have to do any unneeded steps. It's complex as it is.

Newb questions in prep for root attempt

I have been trying to make sure I take all the correct steps before attempting a root. Some of the software references in the forum have me confused. If someone could help me with these I would very much appreciate it.
Here is a quote from the Icey Faux/Honeylicous thread by the OP:
kjy2010 said:
Hey bro don't you use the backup feature on HC? I format and re-install at least a few times a week, and google reinstalls all my apps in about ten minutes tops.
Nothing personal, I just don't get some peoples aversion to doing a proper wipe and format between installs. It's not like you lose any of your photos, music, or videos even when following the instructions in the OP.
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1) What is the difference between the android market and the google "app store" that I keep seeing people refer too?
a) what is the reference to "HC" in this quote?
- I have purchased apps from the android market that I would like to keep. I followed some references in other threads and got the Titanium Backup (free version) in hopes that I can backup the entire tablet. Is this what I would use to keep my apps/data and bring it back to the tablet after rooting?
2) I also got the Acer Recovery app. This looks as though it is used to bring the tablet back to stock form. Is that correct?
3) Is the term "root" in reference to gaining root permissions/access to the tablet, and nothing else? (I was under the impression that it was the installation of a ROM)
4) I have 3.2.1 on my tablet. It looks as though at this point in time, the only way I can root is to bring it back to at least 3.2 ot less (reference to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227&page=11)
5) Any tips on what I should download before the root so that I can keep a backup of the original setup and all of the apps I have purchased?
Thank you for anything you can give.
Ryan
YeeP said:
I have been trying to make sure I take all the correct steps before attempting a root. Some of the software references in the forum have me confused. If someone could help me with these I would very much appreciate it.
Here is a quote from the Icey Faux/Honeylicous thread by the OP:
1) What is the difference between the android market and the google "app store" that I keep seeing people refer too?
a) what is the reference to "HC" in this quote?
- I have purchased apps from the android market that I would like to keep. I followed some references in other threads and got the Titanium Backup (free version) in hopes that I can backup the entire tablet. Is this what I would use to keep my apps/data and bring it back to the tablet after rooting?
2) I also got the Acer Recovery app. This looks as though it is used to bring the tablet back to stock form. Is that correct?
3) Is the term "root" in reference to gaining root permissions/access to the tablet, and nothing else? (I was under the impression that it was the installation of a ROM)
4) I have 3.2.1 on my tablet. It looks as though at this point in time, the only way I can root is to bring it back to at least 3.2 ot less (reference to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227&page=11)
5) Any tips on what I should download before the root so that I can keep a backup of the original setup and all of the apps I have purchased?
Thank you for anything you can give.
Ryan
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Ryan,
HC=Honeycomb (the version of Android that is currently on your tab).
No difference, in the name for market, some people just use a different term.
2. No it doesn't. It will install CWM which will make a backup of your current ROM which you can flash to go back to original.
3. Root allows you to install CWM which will in turn allow you to flash custom ROMs.
4. Yes you will need to downgrade first, make certain you have everything you need already downloaded and on your external SD card.
5. Read, READ, READ, READ, take notes, and follow instructions to the letter. We certainly don't need another "help, I bricked my tab" thread lol
1) No difference, Google Market/App Store yada yada yada.
a) HC = Honey Comb, it is Googles internal name for their OS from versions 3.x
- If you go to Settings - Privacy, put a check in the boxes for "Back up my data" and "Automatic restore". Doing this alone has been enough for Google to automatically re-install about 99% of my apps.
2) Acer Recovery makes it easier to install the various Recovery images. It does not alone help you get back to "bone stock", but it at least will re-install the stock Recovery image if and when you're ready to go back to the stock ROM.
3) Root is getting root access to the device, which is generally needed to install custom ROMs, so I could see the confusion.
4) Almost right, you'll need to bring it back to 3.0.1 first. Be sure to have already downloaded and installed at least Acer Recovery and IconiaRoot before downgrading, as the Market is flakey as heck when you downgrade to 3.0.1. I followed method 2 in that thread and had 0 issues.
5) Not needed, see my info after 1,a).
kjy2010 said:
Ryan,
HC=Honeycomb (the version of Android that is currently on your tab).
No difference, in the name for market, some people just use a different term.
2. No it doesn't. It will install CWM which will make a backup of your current ROM which you can flash to go back to original.
3. Root allows you to install CWM which will in turn allow you to flash custom ROMs.
4. Yes you will need to downgrade first, make certain you have everything you need already downloaded and on your external SD card.
5. Read, READ, READ, READ, take notes, and follow instructions to the letter. We certainly don't need another "help, I bricked my tab" thread lol
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In reference to your answers:
#3 - Am I correct in saying that I can get root access without applying a new ROM?
#4 - I have an SD card, and it looks as though with the downloads and what not, the tablet is not even using it.
How (I am sure to get a "use search" answer with someone...) do I force the tablet to download these things I need to the SD card?
Do I need an additional SD card to be used for this process only?
I see that you are working on a version of your ROM for 3.2.1, shall I just wait to avoid problems?
#5 - I have been trying to read as many "brick" threads as I can in order to avoid them.
fermunky said:
3) Root is getting root access to the device, which is generally needed to install custom ROMs, so I could see the confusion.
4) Almost right, you'll need to bring it back to 3.0.1 first. Be sure to have already downloaded and installed at least Acer Recovery and IconiaRoot before downgrading, as the Market is flakey as heck when you downgrade to 3.0.1. I followed method 2 in that thread and had 0 issues.
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I did find the IconiaRoot thread by Thor. It looks as though this is the reason for bringing the version back to 3.0.1, true? Not to many usable answers to the questions asked in that thread, that are answered by the OP. I will try and search for people using it and starting their own thread.
This looks to be a Windows piece of software, maybe I can get it to run on my virtual box... or wine... . I guess I could try it on my work machine.
IconiaRoot is the app to actually use the exploit found to root the device and give you root access. Now, the reason for going to 3.0.1 is because the exploit was fixed by Acer is version 3.2. So, the downgrade is needed first so that the exploit is available to root your device.
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
if you are on STOCK FROM ACER.. 3.2 OR ABOVE . you must DOWNGRADE TO GET ROOT..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
im guessing if you have looked at all the threads about being bricked and still do not understand how to do it..or scared to try .
DO NOT ATTEMPT
MAYBE you should ask a dev if you can send your tablet to them in the mail and them flash it for you.. Would be my best sugestion.. Everyone that flashes anything on there tablet or any ROM BASED Device takes the risk of bricking.. IF you have read other bricking related threads you will see people complain they fallowed all instructions and still ended up bricked.. Maybe to falt of there own they missed or maybe just luck of the Flash..
Good Luck and look for Jimmy Deans post in the d/load he gives a very detailed instructions with step by step pictures. as some of the others do as well..
Thanks for listening to me RANT About my opinion...
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
fermunky said:
IconiaRoot is the app to actually use the exploit found to root the device and give you root access. Now, the reason for going to 3.0.1 is because the exploit was fixed by Acer is version 3.2. So, the downgrade is needed first so that the exploit is available to root your device.
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Perfect, thanks man.
erica_renee said:
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
if you are on STOCK FROM ACER.. 3.2 OR ABOVE . you must DOWNGRADE TO GET ROOT..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
im guessing if you have looked at all the threads about being bricked and still do not understand how to do it..or scared to try .
DO NOT ATTEMPT
MAYBE you should ask a dev if you can send your tablet to them in the mail and them flash it for you.. Would be my best sugestion.. Everyone that flashes anything on there tablet or any ROM BASED Device takes the risk of bricking.. IF you have read other bricking related threads you will see people complain they fallowed all instructions and still ended up bricked.. Maybe to falt of there own they missed or maybe just luck of the Flash..
Good Luck and look for Jimmy Deans post in the d/load he gives a very detailed instructions with step by step pictures. as some of the others do as well..
Thanks for listening to me RANT About my opinion...
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
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Not sure if you ranted to make yourself feel good or show how awesome you are. Either way, this is not my first time to the rodeo, and not my first time on a forum where there are people that want to constantly show how tough they are. I have seen your posts in other threads and know what to expect from you. Because I am new here, I will not use the language I am tempted to with you.
It is so cool that you feel great enough that you can give someone a hard time because they want to make sure they are prepared to do things right the first time. As opposed to the opposite. Maybe because they want to understand how things work and the syntax surrounding the protocol(s).
My opinion on your opinion is to STFU and kiss my ass. mkay?
erica_renee said:
OMG..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
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Thought we were talking about tablets here ... this whole Jimmy Dean and Links givin me a hankerin for some breakmast
Give thanks to those who need it..
Thanks for such nice words.I do appreciate and value your opinion of me.
All im saying is that if you have read all the threads and post about bricked devices bad flashing stories and the threads on how to do it correctly.. That there is nothing more anyone can do or say to you about this.. Only other option is for someone to do it for you.. I did not mean to offend you in any way.
Its kinda unclear what you expected to get out of starting a thread stating that you read everything good and bad.. about flashing this tablet.. maybe the solution is to go to android sdk site and get better acquainted with the OS on a more personal level.. if you are still not understanding the process .
With that all said..
I do hope you accomplish what your trying to do.I also sent you a Thanks maybe it will make you smile and not be so hateful toward constructive criticize n.
Good Luck..
erica_renee said:
<CLIP> Thanks maybe it will make you smile and not be so hateful toward constructive criticize n.
Good Luck..
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Ah, my mistake, I must have been confused by the meaning of "constructive criticism"
Apparently when you say:
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
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That is meant in the most loving, helpful way. Right? I should have been happy with that response. I apologize.
garringm said:
Thought we were talking about tablets here ... this whole Jimmy Dean and Links givin me a hankerin for some breakmast
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Giggles im so sorry .. fix me some while your in the kitchen..
OK, erica_renee, I need to come back and give a real apology. I am having a hard day at work today and was looking toward learning a new process on my latest toy to give me a little relaxation. I just had a customer blaming my additions to the software as the cause of their problems. Not sure if you code for a living, but that is not a fun conversation.
Sorry if I was mean, I just want to learn and not be treated like an idiot. I just want to be as educated as possible before I make a move. I see to many people getting educated because they broke something.
Its all fine
I do understand what you mean..
NOPE im not in software development in anyway. I did back in the 80s own a local computer business so i know how customers can be.. As far as my past being mean and aggressive.. YES i think it was ,better to have someone dislike me then brick there device.. I have leaned alot about android thru the official android web development site.. Its alot of long winded boring reading.
all is kewl with me. I dont take this stuff personal.People including myself sometimes can become to agressive on forums. as its not really a face to face interaction..
anyway GOOD Luck...
xo xoxoxo
I got the itch for some breakfast also.
Erica, git in dere and whup me up sum vittles!!
IM So sorry TIMMY Dean
oops i feel so stupid i just realized i was having a bad blonde moment..
and while you are cooking guys bring me some as well.. I Have been banned from the kitchen. last time i dropped a expensive glass and broke it.. Thou i used to love to cook.. Boohooo
ok i shup now because im causing yet another forum to be way way off topic..
YeeP said:
Perfect, thanks man.
Not sure if you ranted to make yourself feel good or show how awesome you are. Either way, this is not my first time to the rodeo, and not my first time on a forum where there are people that want to constantly show how tough they are. I have seen your posts in other threads and know what to expect from you. Because I am new here, I will not use the language I am tempted to with you.
It is so cool that you feel great enough that you can give someone a hard time because they want to make sure they are prepared to do things right the first time. As opposed to the opposite. Maybe because they want to understand how things work and the syntax surrounding the protocol(s).
My opinion on your opinion is to STFU and kiss my ass. mkay?
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Good job could not have said any better just using reg English. Giggles
thedoc8 said:
Good job could not have said any better just using reg English. Giggles
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No Need to downgrade....
Please see attached -
Looks like they found rood for 3.2.1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
mahalocat said:
Please see attached -
Looks like they found rood for 3.2.1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
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Thanks! Just spent some time reading through this thread and it seems this is the post that those with 3.2.1 should go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20628560&postcount=119

[Q] Intro into the Android World

Hey guys, I am new to the Android scene from iOS jailbreaking, so I had a few questions.
1. Is it easy to upgrade to a later firmware rooted?
2. How/can you revert to stock OS from a rom without losing personal data?
3. What are the best tweaks and themes to get?
Thanks for the help!
Bilge656 said:
Hey guys, I am new to the Android scene from iOS jailbreaking, so I had a few questions.
1. Is it easy to upgrade to a later firmware rooted?
2. How/can you revert to stock OS from a rom without losing personal data?
3. What are the best tweaks and themes to get?
Thanks for the help!
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1. yes. If the ROM is the correct version for a new radio update, just flash it. If it's a new version of the ROM, just flash it, or clear the dalvik-cache before you flash it.
2. nandroid or titanium backup pro.
3. root, busybox, tablet ui. As for themes, it's a matter of preference. Same as launcher, plenty to choose from, ADW, Zeam, Trebuchet, stock.
Welcome aboard, hope you do some great stuff for the community. :highfive:
jptech said:
1. yes. If the ROM is the correct version for a new radio update, just flash it. If it's a new version of the ROM, just flash it, or clear the dalvik-cache before you flash it.
2. nandroid or titanium backup pro.
3. root, busybox, tablet ui. As for themes, it's a matter of preference. Same as launcher, plenty to choose from, ADW, Zeam, Trebuchet, stock.
Welcome aboard, hope you do some great stuff for the community. :highfive:
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How do you flash the rom? Dalvik-cache? Sorry the difference between this and the iOS community is ridiculous. Thanks a lot for the help!
Bilge656 said:
How do you flash the rom? Dalvik-cache? Sorry the difference between this and the iOS community is ridiculous. Thanks a lot for the help!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ClockworkMod_Recovery
Bilge656 said:
How do you flash the rom? Dalvik-cache? Sorry the difference between this and the iOS community is ridiculous. Thanks a lot for the help!
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You'll have to do an initial flashing of the recovery, see for example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741395
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742919
(More will probably come out once the device actually does)
After that, ROMs, kernels, etc can be downloaded as .zip files and flashed via the recovery. More tutorials about this, including video, will also come out.
Some guy named zedomax is notorious for having fifty instruction websites, like galaxynexusroot.com, rootgalaxynote.com, etc. You can watch them for earlier examples, and he's promised a nexus7root.com or something like that.
thebobp said:
You'll have to do an initial flashing of the recovery, see for example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741395
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742919
(More will probably come out once the device actually does)
After that, ROMs, kernels, etc can be downloaded as .zip files and flashed via the recovery. More tutorials about this, including video, will also come out.
Some guy named zedomax is notorious for having fifty instruction websites, like galaxynexusroot.com, rootgalaxynote.com, etc. You can watch them for earlier examples, and he's promised a nexus7root.com or something like that.
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So the one click root and other tools actually flash to the device?
Noob once again, but do the roms come with a custom flasher sort of thing, or is there a standard way to flash kernels and roms regardless of what they are?
I'm so stupid
Bilge656 said:
So the one click root and other tools actually flash to the device?
Noob once again, but do the roms come with a custom flasher sort of thing, or is there a standard way to flash kernels and roms regardless of what they are?
I'm so stupid
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My advice: read all you can about root, custom Roms, recovery, and about the android is.
Do not root until you know what you are doing. And using a one click root program does not constitute knowing. By doing this you will learn all you need to know to have fun.
Xi2wiked said:
My advice: read all you can about root, custom Roms, recovery, and about the android is.
Do not root until you know what you are doing. And using a one click root program does not constitute knowing. By doing this you will learn all you need to know to have fun.
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Alright thanks. Any good resources?
Bilge656 said:
Alright thanks. Any good resources?
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There are lots of great video tutorials out there that are generic to android in general. Just do some searching on YouTube and you should find everything you need
Sent from my Triumph using xda premium
Bilge656 said:
So the one click root and other tools actually flash to the device?
Noob once again, but do the roms come with a custom flasher sort of thing, or is there a standard way to flash kernels and roms regardless of what they are?
I'm so stupid
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"Flashing" is kinda a vague term. It pretty much means "copy stuff into the read-only part of your device's memory". So you might, for example, flash a ROM or an app.
After unlocking the bootloader, the initial flashing of the recovery has to be done via computer, usually via adb push. Some one-click tools do that for you.
Once that's done, you can flash zip files using the recovery. This is the standard way of flashing stuff and is very easy once you get the hang of it; all you need is the zip file.
Finally, a "rooted" app with superuser privileges can also write to the read-only memory, so there are some apps that flash certain ROMs and kernels for you and all you have to do is restart. Most prominent are ROM manager and kernel control apps.
jptech said:
1. yes. If the ROM is the correct version for a new radio update, just flash it. If it's a new version of the ROM, just flash it, or clear the dalvik-cache before you flash it.
2. nandroid or titanium backup pro.
3. root, busybox, tablet ui. As for themes, it's a matter of preference. Same as launcher, plenty to choose from, ADW, Zeam, Trebuchet, stock.
Welcome aboard, hope you do some great stuff for the community. :highfive:
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Whats busybox for? i am a newbie too and reading the description on play store has me confused lol
iwantanandroid said:
Whats busybox for? i am a newbie too and reading the description on play store has me confused lol
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It's a collection of basic linux programs, required for some other advanced apps. Chances are if you don't know what it is, you don't need it. However, there's also the offchance that an app does need it and forgets to tell you, so meh.
Rooting/Flashing custom roms is an entirely different world from "jailbreaking" in iOS. XDA is by far the best place to learn and get your feet wet, but don't get in over your head too fast. When you get it, ENJOY your device as it is first. A stock Android device offers 100000X more freedom than iOS.
It took me a month (after devs bypassed the bootloader) to get the courage to finally root my G2, and that was because it took T-Mobile an insane amount of time to upgrade this thing to Gingerbread. Before you do anything read. Then read it again. Then again. Once you get the hang of it though, it gets pretty fun.
Nospin said:
Before you do anything read. Then read it again. Then again. Once you get the hang of it though, it gets pretty fun.
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Yes. I didn't read enough way back when I rooted and messed with my Cappy, and somehow got it stuck in an endless boot loop of death. So I will be a little hesitant to do anything with the Nexus until I am absolutely sure of whatever I'm doing. I suggest you do the same!

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