Gps battery use - Vibrant General

Does the gps really use much more battery if kept on? I've always been under the impression that it would drain the battery quicker than anything else. Recently though, I've just been leaving it on constantly and have noticed very little extra battery usage. It seems to come on briefly when I do a search or other location using services, but it didn't seem to be an extra drain otherwise.
Anyone have any input or some input about gps battery usage?
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As far as I know, the GPS only kicks on when an app requires it. So unless you have something in the background that's constantly asking for your location it shouldn't really drain the battery in a way that would be notisible.... As far as I know
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Sounds about right just make sure you don't have a lot of apps running that use the gps
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In earlier versions of Android, having the GPS setting "on" actually activated the GPS system directly. In current versions, the setting only controls whether GPS-aware apps are allowed to use GPS at all, or not.
So as you have surmised, leaving the setting "on" doesn't use any additional battery power unless you're actually running a GPS-related app (Maps, navigation, camera, etc).

To save battery, just turn on GPS whenever you need it.
No idea why should leave it on all the time, coz it is really draining battery if it is running (to be clear when it is really running but not just on)

I haven't turned my gps off in 2 months and I average between 12 and 18 hours of moderate use.
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Emama said:
To save battery, just turn on GPS whenever you need it.
No idea why should leave it on all the time, coz it is really draining battery if it is running (to be clear when it is really running but not just on)
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The point the OP is trying to make is that GPS doesn't drain the battery unless you're in an app that uses it.
I leave it on because only a handful of apps use it, and I'm usually not in those alps for hours at a time.
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Emama said:
To save battery, just turn on GPS whenever you need it.
No idea why should leave it on all the time, coz it is really draining battery if it is running (to be clear when it is really running but not just on)
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For people who are prone to losing their phones, such as my GF, its a good idea to leave it on and installing an app like Lost Phone where you can send the lost phone a txt and receive a map view of its exact location. As far as i know the android OS does not support remote activation so it must be left on. Like others have mentioned it does not cause a noticeable battery drain while its not in use. Its come in handy numerous times...too many times...
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Thanks everyone, that's good to know! I understand I will see some additional battery usage when I'm in an app that uses gps, but I was really just curious if I could leave gps "on" while idle and not experience any additional battery use.
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Yep, yes you can
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Battery life stinks...

Hey guys what is up. I'm just wandering.. my Droid is brand new. Got it 2 days ago. Today I had to recharge my battery twice. I did use it a lot... so that may be it.. and when I didn't use it the battery life stayed the same for as long as I didn't touch the phone. Is my battery good? I got the app that tells me the temperature and everything. The hottest was 112F. It says my battery health is "good health". Will my phone hold a charge for a longer period of time after it has been charged then drained... and repeated. Does it just need to be broken in? Thanks for reading this whole essay I wrote you guys.. Haha. Well thank you so much again... and if you can please get back to me as soon as possible that would be great!
- Steven
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You should really search a little bit before you post. There are COUNTLESS threads on battery life.
Your best bet, until HTC fixes it, is to charge until the phone says you're at 100%, then turn it off and charge until the LED turns green. Charging and discharging really won't affect anything - their is no "memory" with their batteries.
Okay, thanks for the quick response. I appreciate it. Sorry. I should've read.. I was just a bit anxious. My apologies.
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You could always trying running one of Hydra's Kernels as well. I don't know if anyone has gained better battery life because of doing so... I use his kernels for the features.
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You could always trying running one of Hydra's Kernels as well. I don't know if anyone has gained better battery life because of doing so... I use his kernels for the features.
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stock speed undervolt is the way to go. I found battery improvement. Hydra Kernels are the way to go.
Hydra Stock Speed Undervolt Kernel
What is that? Do I get it in the app store? My battery is getting pretty warm now.. even when I touch my screen I feel it.
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When I click The link on my incredible it gives me an error when I download it. How do I run it and or make it work?
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When I click The link on my incredible it gives me an error when I download it. How do I run it and or make it work?
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What's the error?
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What's the error?
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It's a a force close with some other words I forgot.
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It says that its just an updater.
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Check Settings > About phone > Battery and make sure up time and awake time aren't the same.
If they are the same, it means something is keeping your phone awake when the screen goes off, which drains battery.
I just got my Droid Incredible a few days ago too, and I knew coming into it that the battery life has issues from a lot of users, but man, it really sucks!
I have it fully charged at 8am, and by 3:30 (with very moderate use), it's already at 20%. I've disabled everything I can (WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, live wallpaper, installed ATK and keep my tasks at none, etc), and still the same.
I really love the phone (it's amazing other than battery), but the battery life is such a big deal for me that I am really thinking about returning it and waiting for the Samsung Fascinate to come (hopefully sooner than later). Thankfully I have until Aug 30 to call Verizon and return the phone... i sure hope the Fascinate gets a definite release date by then.
I'm going to try the full charge + phone off + charge again to see if that improves things, but other than that, does anyone recommend the Seidio 1750mAh battery or the HTC Touch Pro2 OEM (1500 mAh) battery? Does it make that much of a difference?
I read the findings on batteryboss.org, and it appears that the TP2 battery was better but the Seidio battery they tested was a used one, so it wasn't a fair comparison.
Any thoughts/help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Loose atk....and read. I get a full 18 plus hours and I don't bump charge. Lots of info out there
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I purchased a 2150 mah battery from verizon and i can say I wont be having battery issues.. that is one option, but you wont find a case that fits your phone, that is the only downfall
I was just reading reports about the new Facebook app...looks like they are working on that fix if you use that and it is causing a battery drain
http://www.androidcentral.com/facebook-confirms-battery-drain-latest-android-update
Uninstall the 1.3.0 facebook app RIGHT AWAY if you downloaded it. That destroyed my battery life yesterday and I have never had battery problems with my DInc.
You can just use the regular HTC Facebook app until an update is released for the facebook for android.
Try it without the new facebook for a day and see if it changes.
If you don't have the facebook app then just make sure bluetooth, gps, wifi are off when you aren't using them. I recommend trying bump charging but I've never personally and my phone lasts about 26-28 hours+ with mild to heavy usage depending on the day.
-Flawless
Thanks for the replies..I don't use Facebook so that wouldn't be my problem.
I think ATK is good.. I mean I don't have it on auto so I sometimes just kill all tasks and I have noticed any decrease from the already poor battery performance.
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Ionno what it is but I'm running froyo 2.2 n I Thot this issue would be addressed but still nothing.. I'm hoping the VZW push will address it... I get decent battery life when I charge fully then turn off then plug back in til light turns green but its a pain in the ass to do dat.. I believe my awake time is like 3-4 hrs with an uptime of like 18-19 hrs
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I have a Sedio 1750, which I bump charge every morning, and UltimateJuice set to turn on APN every 5 min for 30 sec or until data transfer is done. WiFi is used whenever possible and otherwise turned off.
I easily make it through the day and have battery to spare with moderate to heavy use.
All the battery life horror stories make me wonder what everyone is doing differently. Haha
Lots of OJ Simpsons in this thread...
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Awesome battery

Ok i have posted these comments elsewhere. At the moment I have been lihjtly using my phone and it has been on standby since 1930 (10/2/11) and currently it stands at 80% charge at 1430 (11/2/11)
All I have done is turn flash to on demand (internet-settings-enable plugins- select on demand) I have also got the option to turn my mobile data usage off as well.
The idea came from a blog I was reading about macbook air and why Apple does not ship it with Flash, as it is this software that chews into the Macbook airs battery.
So i applied same idea to the DHD and Voila!
gonna give it a try
thanks btw
DN41
I'm trying this now and I've also noticed that apps are loading faster. Let me try the games...
Cheers from my DHD.
Hey....Nice one....Looks like the phone is faster now...Running CM7...can notice a visible difference...will leave it for some time to check the standby battery consumption
How did you turn off the mobile data usage ?
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I used the mobile data app from the settings selection I think
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Or you can go to settings > wireless. Or set up a widget.
Cheers from my DHD.
Not sure if I notice a difference but I'll report back in a few days time. Thanks for the tip bro
Something I know is the XDA app works better and faster. I don't know why its so...
Cheers from my DHD.
Have just turned plungins to on demand... not sure if it's just me but things do start to feel a tad bit faster/smoother...
What are the implications of changing this setting? Would browsing sites with flash take a slightly longer time to load?
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Well I cannot say about speed difference as it may be anecdotal however, I have now put it on charge this morning as it hit less than 10%. So in total it has lasted 36 hours!!!
I will fully charge again and try leaving the phone with internet data on and see what kind of difference this will make.
Over the past two days I have surfed on the phone, downloaded several podcasts (Freakonomics) listened to them all and done all the usual things with this phone. It now seems to behave how my Iphone 3GS use to act when in 2g mode.
Conclusion:
Impressed and overall consistency of improved battery life is finally available if we follow the Apple way and get the Flash off!!!lol.
Sorry could not help myself
Where can i find the setting to turn off? I would like to try and see if the battery life is better but i can't find the specified setting?
Never mind, found it. Lets see if this does the trick? Thanks
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Isn't it common sense to turn off Mobile Data when you don't need it?
No wonder people complain about battery life when they have every single setting and sync turned on.
will give it a bash now
Reporting back to say my battery is. Holding back longer than it used to be...
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Can anyone explain how to turn flashh off please.
Yup, This is a great post
With a web page open goto menu, settings, scroll to the bottom and change plugins to on demand. That's it.
I tried it but haven't noticed any difference.
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Isn't it common sense to turn off Mobile Data when you don't need it?
No wonder people complain about battery life when they have every single setting and sync turned on.
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I purchased HTC's flagship phone. I don't feel I should be restricting fundamental functions like mobile data just to get through the day.....but maybe that's just me.
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Problems with Epic

I'm on ec05 un rooted.
I've noticed a problem that started a few months ago. Before I get into that...some things to know:
I have 5 batteries. 1 stock and 4 aftermarket.
One issue I have is battery drain. If I'm not on wifi then I get between 2-4 hours. With wifi it is 5-7.
Whenever I change the battery it is a toss up as to whether all of my apps will load. I have rebooted 5 times today within a 30 min period. All the apps still haven't loaded and battery life dropped 20%. I have tried using the keys to reboot and also taking the battery out.
The phone will also get hot when not on wifi.
Any suggestions on how to fix? I have tried factory reset and it doesn't fix it.
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If you're already willing to factory reset, you might as well Odin back fresh and see if it helps. Unfortunately root is needed to calibrate the battery in traditional ways.
If you have 5 batteries and have to swap out every 5 hours then your probably on your phone all day.
Are you just pulling the battery or letting it power down? I know stock has journaling on which protects you from if the battery gets pulled but after o long it ill catch up and do it mine has but I get why better battery life then that. My wifi on I will get about 15 hour with little bit of use but I will get about 6 to 7. When running pandora at work the whole time and maybe mess around with it for 30 mins. Also make sure you back out of everything
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I would bet you've got some app installed that is constantly running in the background, constantly connecting and downloading data and killing the battery. Since WiFi uses less power than 3G you get better battery life on Wifi, but if you are constantly syncing and downloading you are going to kill the battery.
If you go into settings>accounts and sync and look at what's syncing it may give you a start. You could also go int settings>about phone>battery use and see what's using the most power.
The only thing that is set to sync is gmail.
The display is using 91% of the battery. Even if I don't use my phone much during the day, the display still shows 90% or higher.
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jmb521 said:
The only thing that is set to sync is gmail.
The display is using 91% of the battery. Even if I don't use my phone much during the day, the display still shows 90% or higher.
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The display is always the biggest drain. That is based on 100% of what you have used. If your battery is warm while not on wifi you are losing 3G and your phone is constantly trying to connect to sync. Put it in airplane mode for an hour and see how the drain is. My guess is a tower is down near you or under maintenance.
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When wifi is on means 3g is off. And cdma 3g uses ALOT of battery because is has no type of "sleep mode" meaning it is on 24/7 and when you do use it it is a battery hog because it also uses a lot to power the cdma bands. Just another cheap flaw in the life of sprint.
So when you are not on wifi turn off 3g.
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Can someone help explain why my battery drains so fast

My SoT is 20 mins, media server has been running for 30 mins.
I have 3G, BT, WiFi , GPS and Google now on all the time. My S3 is able to get a constant 24 hours with the same use.
It seems that the nexus 4 idles OK, but plummets when anything is being used.
I'm using stock ROM, rooted with Franco kernel M1.
I've tried using better battery stats but it keeps resetting every time I open it, making it kinda useless.
Anyone have any idea why the media server uses so much or why its draining so quick?
Thanks
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My SoT is 20 mins, media server has been running for 30 mins.
I have 3G, BT, WiFi , GPS and Google now on all the time. My S3 is able to get a constant 24 hours with the same use.
It seems that the nexus 4 idles OK, but plummets when anything is being used.
I'm using stock ROM, rooted with Franco kernel M1.
I've tried using better battery stats but it keeps resetting every time I open it, making it kinda useless.
Anyone have any idea why the media server uses so much or why its draining so quick?
Thanks
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Having all those settings turned on will eat your battery. Are you using BT and GPS during this usage? If not, turn them off. Also regarding mediaserver, SoundCloud or other music streaming apps will engage mediaserver. When your done using said apps kill them from recents menu. Alternatively, you're rooted. I suggest you look into Greenify in the app store. you can select the apps to hibernate when not in use, it requires root.
Regarding BBS, look in settings, you may have something set up within the app thats making it reset.
Given that the battery is the same size as the s3, shouldn't it be able to keep up with it?
If I have to keep turning things off, it defeats the object for me.
I can't imagine the exynos being that much better. Like I said, an easy 24 hours with the s3 under the same usage with all the same things on.
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You were listening to music via soundcloud so thats why media server is so high. Plus, you have GPS, Bluetooth and Google now enabled all the time! You answered your own question on why it's draining so fast.
If you don't need the services all the time, disable them until you need it.
It's the same as if you're wondering why your gas bill is so high when you leave the thermostat on at above 70 degrees Fahrenheit all winter long.
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Thanks for the replies.
I do not understand why my s3 can do this without using half as much. Is it really that much better than a stock Google phone with the same size battery??
I use same soundcloud usage on my s3 every single morning on the commute and its usually at 89/90%. I'm ending up with 75 on the nexus 4.
If the nexus 4 battery life is rubbish, that's fine. I'm just looking for confirmation its not broken, which it appears not to be. I knew the S3 was better with battery, just wasn't expecting not being able to get through a day with the nexus 4.
Ive seen lots of pics of ridiculous SoT time, but I guess they must turn everything off.
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Are you on 4.2.2? And how long have you had the phone?
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Hi. Yep on 4.2.2 and have been using the phone for a week.
Even with WiFi BT and GPS on this phone idles like a champ.
I'm convinced the drain isn't normal, 25 mins of sound cloud uses up more battery than the screen being on for over an hour.... Surely this cannot be right??
Its also worth noting that the phone gets quite hot - which I think is really odd seeing as all its doing is streaming audio.
I've attached some pics to demonstrate what I mean.
I really hope someone can help, I love this phone but if I cant get my normal day out of it on going to have to go back to the s3.
Thanks.
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This may not be the phone for you, but here's what I do.
I have toggles (SwitchPro) for Wifi, BT, Data, GPS etc. that I push when I need them. I also have DS Battery Saver which helps shut down said items when screen is not in use.
I'm a Moderate user but I don't think you ever need to have all activities (GPS etc) activated when you are not using that particular activity.
With that being said, you control the battery and screen time. You just need to know how to manage it.
Hope that helps.......
Do you keep large media files on your phone? I've had mediaserver kick my battery's ass on that before if it can't for some reason properly index/understand a media file.
Use betterbatterystats or something equivalent to track your CPU usage and what frequency it's sat at most.

Why is it suddenly draining?

As you can see I've got hardly any screen on time. Location services, GPS, sync and everything were off. Data off. WiFi on but had strong signal entire day. Battery saver on. Not rooted, full stock. Any ideas on why it suddenly started draining? I've been getting much better life than this. After 18 hours of this kind of usage I usually have 50+ percent left.
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chrisphoenix7 said:
As you can see I've got hardly any screen on time. Location services, GPS, sync and everything were off. Data off. WiFi on but had strong signal entire day. Battery saver on. Not rooted, full stock. Any ideas on why it suddenly started draining? I've been getting much better life than this. After 18 hours of this kind of usage I usually have 50+ percent left.
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CarrierIQ! You probably have it enabled. Given that your screenshots say AT&T, this is most likely the culprit. Disable it and your battery issues should go away.
I've read people across devices have been getting drain from Google Play Services. Seems it would show up though, it's the 2nd thing in mine next to screen...
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marleyinoc said:
I've read people across devices have been getting drain from Google Play Services. Seems it would show up though, it's the 2nd thing in mine next to screen...
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I don't have that issue. My Google Play Services only takes up 2% of my battery. But its a known issue that if you have an AT&T phone, chances are you accepted everything when you first setup the phone and opted into CarrierIQ.
For the OP, his screenshots don't see Google Play Services as a battery drainer. I am pretty sure it is CarrierIQ draining his battery especially if he has GPS enabled all the time.
Battery usage was included in screenshots.
Carrier IQ uses that much battery? User has to opt in to it?
Guess an FDR is in order to opt out this time. Save you stuff to your PC or cloud first.
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Battery usage was included in screenshots.
Carrier IQ uses that much battery? User has to opt in to it?
Guess an FDR is in order to opt out this time. Save you stuff to your PC or cloud first.
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User opts in when they have a pop up window asking if they can collect locations statistics and send it back to Google or whatever for assisting in resolving issues. I don't have AT&T so I don't have the exact popup handy. I just know that Tmobile has an setting in Options to disable CarrierIQ.
I don't have GPS on ever. And I can't find carrierIQ anywhere. I'm not familiar with it.
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Wouldnt that be a wakelock issue? look his cell standby takes up the most of his battery... check out GASM battery so you can know what to disable to save battery
Google Play Services has been killing me over the past few days and there have been a LOT of reports of others having the same issue across multiple devices. Today Google Play Services has taken up 37% with 14 hours of wakelock. Absolutely ridiculous.
No one has been able to figure out why.
I have an ATT D800 and just started experiencing this in the last few days. I already had disabled CIQ (checker says it exists but is disabled).
It may be the google play services issue and I just finished disabling those and charging to 100%. We shall see.
I took these things off, and got great batterylife after that:good: It should help for google play services battery drain..but report back if it works or not.
Settings -> Location access -> Off
Google Settings ->Location -> Location Reporting Off, Location History Off
All location settings are off. I've been with android since 2010. I've always kept location everything off.
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chrisphoenix7 said:
As you can see I've got hardly any screen on time. Location services, GPS, sync and everything were off. Data off. WiFi on but had strong signal entire day. Battery saver on. Not rooted, full stock. Any ideas on why it suddenly started draining? I've been getting much better life than this. After 18 hours of this kind of usage I usually have 50+ percent left.
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I think there's an issue with WiFi on the D800. If I leave my setup the same as when on LTE, but turn on WiFi instead, I get a nice steady battery drain. I have compared BBS stats to when I'm on LTE and I don't see anything different. No wakelock keeping the phone on. Deep sleep is similar, etc.
Found the culprit. Battle Dragons, a game, was keeping the phone awake. Better battery stats showed it was never letting the phone sleep. Getting normal life now that I've uninstalled BD. No clue why it was waking it though, I stopped the app.
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