… boot loader again, and again > Sanjay Jha - Atrix 4G General

… i was listening yesterdays conference call, and was wondering, does the CEO or the heart of one of the most important android partner know “xda-developers” or other important android web pages. OK, it was a business talk, but the words about customer relations was motoblur motoblur … I am really wondering, if he knows about the boot loader topic or/and if estimates the impact and the consequences right (xda-developers are the lighthouse!). I was missing just a small hint or a subordinate clause in that talk …
… my conclusion for the atrix:
a) Sanjay needs a whistle-blower, who talks in person to him or to one of the top management
b) the community has to keep or increase the pressure > important! The small facebook statement is nothing without a conformation of the management.
c) xda-developers (key developers …) has to think about business compatible a solution, where both sides could live with (e.g. dualboot) and offer this in an offensive way …
… and about Sanjay Jha’s stuttering, after some times I started to like it, because it makes him human and not just business robot … and for me a “simpatico moto”

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[Q] Call for entries:: A Football (Soccer)Mobile App.

We seek developers from any part of the world for an innovative mobile app project.
This project is dedicated solely on Football in a country in Africa.
For the eventual developer of this app, all the payment will be done through this medium. Although we are willing to pay between $1500-$1800 or maximally pays $2000 on this job
PROJECTS’ MAJOR COMPONENTS
News feeds, Videos/highlight shows, live score, Interactive communities, Feedback/suggestions
OVERVIEW
To design, built, operate and later transfer a football (soccer) mobile app.
OBJECTIVES
To pull news and other specified contents from web-portals, blog sites to the app. All this must be done without slowing down the app. invariably; we are talking about a sorting algorithm that is robust, fast and easily assessable to the app. IT MUST NOT SLOW DOWN THE APP.
Alternatively, creating a pool at which the app can interact with. All the news, videos et al will be aggregated in that pool and the app can eventually interact with it.
SPECIFICATIONS
The major components will make use of strong sorting algorithm because for instance, all the news components will be sourced from different web sources.
For LIVE-SCORE components, we are looking at an sms-based auto-app-update-lives-core. For instance match updates can be sent via sms to a dedicated phone number which must have been programmed to automatically update on the app. However, we will always appreciate if there are better, and cost effective options to achieve this feat.
OUR REQUESTS
The design must be simple but captivating,
The navigation must be easy
Must be on different version of Androids, iOS, Window Phone and Blackberry
Please when applying, endeavor to email me for further briefing.
The match fixtures, result and league table components must be easily navigable and more importantly, easily updatable.
The featured football/soccer clubs must have their logos attached to them. (We will supply those logos)
The app logo and naming must be unique. We will welcome inputs from you on this.
We are proposing a back-end kind of connection to match-day videos/highlights on a website. This app must have proper referencing of the source website, same goes for the news too.
The feedback component of the app must be able to send feedbacks/suggestions to the app admin.
We are yet to decide if the app will have an authentication pane with it, where one can sign-up, have a profile and log-in and out. But if it will, then it must be very simple- Username, phone number, email address, supported football club. The user log in page must be able to allow each user to log in automatically.
The app must have an interactive community, where app user can intearact based on the football/soccer clubs they support.
CONCLUSION
Please note that we are more interested in anyone/group that can achieve our BOT (Build, Operate and Transfer) option for us. We will strictly follow your own proposed remuneration afterwards.
There will be an MOU to be jointly signed by both party before the start of the project . This MOU must state your specified time frame for setting up the project, and also operating it.
Please note that all financial consideration will be paid to you ONLY when you are about to transfer the project to us.
More importantly, the App must be able to have specified sizes of Advertisement pane (This is a very important component).
For the eventual developer of this app, all the payment will be done through this medium. Although we are willing to pay between $1500-$1800 or maximally pays $2000 on this job
Signed
Fapohunda Olufemi John
Solution Provider,
JMS Technologies
[email protected]
Twitter: @iamfOJ
Whatsapp/Phone: +2348066920770

New Fire TV OS might block side loading 3rd party apps

Report: The New Fire TV OS Will Block Apps Like Kodi (*Update, it was updated and Amazon says they won't be blocking anything. The rumor was never factual.*)
The article mentions, there are reports all 3rd party apps will be blocked. With the main focus on blocking Kodi, in the name of preventing piracy.
Of course if they wanted to just block Kodi, there are ways of doing that, without blocking all 3rd party apps. But given this is Amazon's box, I'm not surprised. In fact, I'm surprised Amazon has allowed side loading of 3rd party apps till now. Since it seems Amazon likes to encourage sales of their stuff.
Update: This may have been a misunderstanding.
Amazon told me the rumors are not true. Here is my response to this article, for those who are interested. http://www.aftvnews.com/a-new-report-claims-fire-tv-update-will-block-all-3rd-party-apps-like-kodi/
Oh I can't wait to lose access to all my other 38 - edit oh, wait 39 apps - that I can't get from Amazons awful appstore, in addition to loosing Firestarter which they banned after stealing its functionality. (Because instead of looking at a launcher, you could be looking at one of their banner ads instead - so of course they had to ban alternative launchers...)
Sounds like so much fun!
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My next Android TV box won't be from amazon, thats almost certain. Every step along the way Amazon missed no opportunity to punch their more tech savvy audience straight into their face - over and over, and over again. Why miss an opportunity this time?
harlekinwashere said:
My next Android TV box won't be from amazon, thats almost certain. Every step along the way Amazon missed no opportunity to punch their more tech savvy audience straight into their face - over and over, and over again. Why miss an opportunity this time?
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To be fair, Amazons android fireOS line is aimed at people that are invested in the Amazon ecco system already, and more so have access to Prime, if You're one of these people they are fantastic products.
abacabie said:
To be fair, Amazons android fireOS line is aimed at people that are invested in the Amazon ecco system already, and more so have access to Prime, if You're one of these people they are fantastic products.
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It is a great product when you can leverage Prime. And has voice search built in, that can do a lot of the same things as Echo. You can even launch apps by voice.
So you have now only one option... Block OTA so you have the freedom to use your AFTV(Stick) without blacklisting 3rd Party Apps like Kodi. I have 5.2.1.0 with root and xposed and my Sticks works fine without any issue
But i think Amazon will block Prime-User also when they use not the newest OS.. hope they do that not
if they do that, i want buy a another TV-Box/Stick and stick Amazon they product in they A**
Amazon has responded to the initial article and it has been updated. They never planned to block 3rd party apps. The rumor was not factual.
I am sorry to inform you - but even if they JUST have hidden the adb toggle in a hidden "service menu" - the question is why.
Of course product bloggers won't ask it openly, because despite catering to users interest, they have 5 other Alexa *blub , bleep - use voice search - its so eazy* articles to pump out every day.
If you are hiding away the adb toggle it puts up another barrier of entry there - behaviorally, for the normal user. Amazon playing their freaking "take their rights one pinprick at a time" game is just as despicable as it was on day one -
and the only reason they are still doing it, is that everyone lets them get away with it, no questions asked.
(
- Why are you adding a blacklist to an open source operating system you borrowed from the linux community?
- Why are you banning launchers, whose functionality you stole from community developers, add a banner ad to yours, and then roll it out (depreciated, because - the Echo audience, never needs to force close or quickly uninstall their apps, or to sort them, or to hide some apps that arent accessed daily) as the new default?
- Why are you banning Kodi - but allow in Kodi Clones as soon as they have stripped out the python interface that enables streaming webenabled content (Isn't that anti competitive to the highest extent?)
- Why are you modifying adb - so some features like parsing logs become impossible?
- Why are you hiding away the development features behind a hidden key combination, so normal users loose the feature - until they are told how to find it again?
- Why have you bloggers that champion you for your interface decisions and who make podcasts about every new menu you add running this scene - but then don't mention it, if your redesign is basically "stealing all the design lessons you could take away from Kodi (which you just kicked out of distribution" and Microsofts Xbox OS? )
- When they took our launchers - the bloggersphere chanted "finally its become eazier".
- When they kicked Kodi (the "browser" of the set top box age), the bloggersphere filled you with all kinds of BS articles about how great it would be to use one of the mangled forks, that had to vow, never to inclue a scriptable python backend - because using the internet as informed users - is something Amazon gets very uncomfertable with. With them its all simple voice button prompts to get stuck in their echosystem with and waging war against EVERY AND ALL open standards, apis, the OS itself...
- When they started blacklisting apps - the bloggerspehere wrote them the excuses for why its ok, and they'd never cross the red line that is blacklisting Kodi. WHO CARES? Blacklisting launchers was enough to mangle the homebrew ecosystem once and for all -- no developer writes code for your benefit, when its clear as day - that amazon stealing it and banning the initial app not only is commonplace in the Fire TV ecosystem - its cheared on by bloggers.
Take your eazy voice commands - and get straight out of this community. If your intention is to whitewash every move Amazon implements to make "running your own code" on the FireTV "just a little harder", but instead would like to promote Amazons paid services - while they introduce blacklists to Android and hide away the developer bridge behind presumably a remote key combination - you have become complacent.
Amazon has made it very clear - that the only way for you to get access to the android ecosystem openly - is to block their updates - hiding away the adb toggle is just another stabwound.
If you wan't to exchange "Echo" and "i watch show - by saying "houswives" and it plays" for access to an unfiltered internet, different sources that don't have to pay Amazon the required obolus, or apps that are actually usable (Amazon App Store apps are often slow to the point they become unusable, or get pulled shortly after release, because they crash all the time - of course, bloggers don't make that their focus - ) - be my guest --
but don't play the "oh - its nothing" - they do all of this to benefit the user game, like some others in here. I get irritated by that. Immensely.
Also - don't abuse this forum for requests on "Echo" and "I hit button and cloud does the work" stuff - because it is specifically out of our reach. As tinkerers, as hackers, as consumer advocates. If you wan't that stuff - you sign away your rights and pay a subscription fee. With that comes paid support and a cookie cutter community that finds "having bought the right trinket" is all the tribalism they'd ever need.
Don't try to bait people with Echo - in exchange for loosing yet another accessibility feature - because its suddenly hidden.
Don't become the blogger that scrambles on his way to contact the company to give a denial as soon as an issue pops up - turn on your brains instead, and don't just neglect the steps Amazon sets to shut out their audience from the outside world a little more.
Everytime they put up another wall - people scramble to explain it away and offer you a little more "Echo" inside your walled garden.
lol @ wall of crazy
Why?
You can't just highjack an argument with an empty accusation aimed killing off all any discussion about what yet another action from Amazon to move installing 3rd party apps just another step further away - means.
Or you can - because, this is how all discussions are meant to be held in the post facebook age of "counterspeak" is impossible - and the popular (because eazy) argument always is the only one left standing.
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Maybe I have to explain my position a bit more.
I am an individual who saw the popular product blogger delete his clarifications for posting unfiltered company PR as a first reaction on the most significant issues concerning open access on the Fire TV platform - as soon as he felt the public lense had moved an inch.
Now I find him reaching out to Amazon, on his own, to be the first one to publicise their rebuttle for "why you not seeing the last remaining API into the Fire TV anymore" is something you should not be worried about.
Without any form of source disclosure or journalistic distance. Basically in a "my buddies at Amazon told me "not true"" fashion. As a byline in a thread that talks about the issues of them doing so.
Not only that - but in response other people in here remind me, and rightfully so, that Amazons FireTV is aimed more at individuals that buy into Amazons service future - like Prime and Echo, than for informed users of Android set top boxes, that want to use them for different purposes as well.
And while I agree - the idea, that it is something that "just happened" is preposterous.
They were Android set top boxes at one point. We had people developing custom recoveries for them. Not just for the sake of doing so - but to allow us to do the stuff, beside whats possible out of the box.
You look at when Amazon took away the freedoms of the Android OS and its Linux Kernel, you look at where and when it banned apps (to replace them with their own cut down interpretations (/clones) of them), you look at - when and where they changed stuff in the UI - and you comment on it.
You look at what they did to the ecosystems on the Fire Tablets, the Kindle, and what they tried to create with the Amazon phone.
You talk about it - and not just advice XDA users to use voice assistants within the Amazon Echo ecosystem on their set top boxes more often - because "its almost like on the dedicated Echo devices", and those are the current "craze du jour" to be able to watch your TV shows, or listen to music -- and Amazon wants you to.
Going along with Amazons vision of a more and more closed down ecosystem - where the mere thought of a "general purpose computer" is something only developers working to put apps into Amazons stores, with the knowledge of the "secret remote access code" should be having, while the rest of the world will happily subscribe to fixed content subscription models, because all we care about is eazy voice search - is something I find hard to do.
Instead of selling people on voice commands, maybe spending a bit more time on "what ecosystem they lead into" and how the vision of it changed in the past months, is worth the while.
So - when Amazon decides to hide the adb dev. bridge, we don't just excuse them for it, we acknowledge the fact and talk about it first.
And if the product bloggers tries to keep it from happening (intended or not, but then - not with the necessary journalistic distance and integrity) - I'll do it for him.
I'm not going to dignify those disastrous posts by quoting then. Just jog on man, these people don't want to hear your rants...
harlekinwashere said:
I am sorry to inform you - but even if they JUST have hidden the adb toggle in a hidden "service menu" - the question is why.
Of course product bloggers won't ask it openly, because despite catering to users interest, they have 5 other Alexa *blub , bleep - use voice search - its so eazy* articles to pump out every day.
If you are hiding away the adb toggle it puts up another barrier of entry there - behaviorally, for the normal user. Amazon playing their freaking "take their rights one pinprick at a time" game is just as despicable as it was on day one -
and the only reason they are still doing it, is that everyone lets them get away with it, no questions asked.
(
- Why are you adding a blacklist to an open source operating system you borrowed from the linux community?
- Why are you banning launchers, whose functionality you stole from community developers, add a banner ad to yours, and then roll it out (depreciated, because - the Echo audience, never needs to force close or quickly uninstall their apps, or to sort them, or to hide some apps that arent accessed daily) as the new default?
- Why are you banning Kodi - but allow in Kodi Clones as soon as they have stripped out the python interface that enables streaming webenabled content (Isn't that anti competitive to the highest extent?)
- Why are you modifying adb - so some features like parsing logs become impossible?
- Why are you hiding away the development features behind a hidden key combination, so normal users loose the feature - until they are told how to find it again?
- Why have you bloggers that champion you for your interface decisions and who make podcasts about every new menu you add running this scene - but then don't mention it, if your redesign is basically "stealing all the design lessons you could take away from Kodi (which you just kicked out of distribution" and Microsofts Xbox OS? )
- When they took our launchers - the bloggersphere chanted "finally its become eazier".
- When they kicked Kodi (the "browser" of the set top box age), the bloggersphere filled you with all kinds of BS articles about how great it would be to use one of the mangled forks, that had to vow, never to inclue a scriptable python backend - because using the internet as informed users - is something Amazon gets very uncomfertable with. With them its all simple voice button prompts to get stuck in their echosystem with and waging war against EVERY AND ALL open standards, apis, the OS itself...
- When they started blacklisting apps - the bloggerspehere wrote them the excuses for why its ok, and they'd never cross the red line that is blacklisting Kodi. WHO CARES? Blacklisting launchers was enough to mangle the homebrew ecosystem once and for all -- no developer writes code for your benefit, when its clear as day - that amazon stealing it and banning the initial app not only is commonplace in the Fire TV ecosystem - its cheared on by bloggers.
Take your eazy voice commands - and get straight out of this community. If your intention is to whitewash every move Amazon implements to make "running your own code" on the FireTV "just a little harder", but instead would like to promote Amazons paid services - while they introduce blacklists to Android and hide away the developer bridge behind presumably a remote key combination - you have become complacent.
Amazon has made it very clear - that the only way for you to get access to the android ecosystem openly - is to block their updates - hiding away the adb toggle is just another stabwound.
If you wan't to exchange "Echo" and "i watch show - by saying "houswives" and it plays" for access to an unfiltered internet, different sources that don't have to pay Amazon the required obolus, or apps that are actually usable (Amazon App Store apps are often slow to the point they become unusable, or get pulled shortly after release, because they crash all the time - of course, bloggers don't make that their focus - ) - be my guest --
but don't play the "oh - its nothing" - they do all of this to benefit the user game, like some others in here. I get irritated by that. Immensely.
Also - don't abuse this forum for requests on "Echo" and "I hit button and cloud does the work" stuff - because it is specifically out of our reach. As tinkerers, as hackers, as consumer advocates. If you wan't that stuff - you sign away your rights and pay a subscription fee. With that comes paid support and a cookie cutter community that finds "having bought the right trinket" is all the tribalism they'd ever need.
Don't try to bait people with Echo - in exchange for loosing yet another accessibility feature - because its suddenly hidden.
Don't become the blogger that scrambles on his way to contact the company to give a denial as soon as an issue pops up - turn on your brains instead, and don't just neglect the steps Amazon sets to shut out their audience from the outside world a little more.
Everytime they put up another wall - people scramble to explain it away and offer you a little more "Echo" inside your walled garden.
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Take a deep breath dude. Lol Bottom line is they CANT block like that. No one could develop for the device if they did. Common sense.
But they can hide it. Make sure people don't stumble upon the sideload apk portion of their boxes. Ever.
Now, this is what they are doing. This is what the product blogger allows them to do without even letting it become a story anymore. He shuts it down for them. Cool. Probably get more exclusive Echo scoops that way...
Also - I've laid this out in my first posting, this is another tldr; version.
I cant stand it, that Amazon is allowed to take away normal user rights a slice at a time, and if you are not letting it fly - you are attacked by superfans, doubling down on personal attacks, because - who needs a rational argument, on the internet. Ever. Isn't that what 9gag taught us?
They can't take it away entirely. Great.. But as always - whats possible doesnt matter. What matters is stuff thats easy enough for actual people to use.
Are you now doing remote control acrobatics, everytime you have to restart the adb service, to even get the menu with the toggle to appear? Remember when people dismissed Amazon only allowing one adb connection into the device wasn't a big deal?
Remember what happened next? We all of a sudden had to support a slew of people that came in with blanket statements that "stuff or tutorials would not work anymore". And what was the result? We had to shrug and explain, that people would have to learn how this works - because we could not get it opened up again to work - always as expected and easy.
We'll decide if it is a big deal, once we know how its implemented, how about that?
But I am certainly not taking their PR departments word for it, and I am sure enough not following the product bloggers line, who couldn't jump fast enough to burry this story because of stuff that sources he wasn't able to disclose or quote, told him.
Because where are we right now?
- Using FIrestarter is not something new users can do
All we have to offer is telling people that they wouldn't need it now, and thats essentially not true.
- Banning apps from being sideloaded - just because the company doesn't like them, or would rather steal its featureset, is the new normal.
As a result there is hardly any original development for this device anymore - that takes place outside the "Amazon app store" ecosystem.
That stuff was all possible without making that stuff impossible. They just made it impossible to scale, or to be easily supported, or to work reliably - and they smashed Firestarter to pieces for essentially daring to be a popular piece of software that was distributed outside their official ecosystem.
With Kodi, they just badmouthed its name and kicked it out of distribution - but same thing.
So if the fist thing that comes to your mind after all of this is "yeah - but Alexa is great - right?" or "yeah - but devs can still test code on the device to later sell it in the Amazon Market" - suggest for a minute, that none of it matters very much, if you come at it from an "educated consumer wants to use a an android box for his on purposes - not the stuff Amazon can come up with - he should use" perspective.
And that I am getting extremely irritated if now it seems, that the product blogger does Amazons PR tasks for them, but people discussing the changes Amazon implements regarding accessing the few remaining APIs on the system - shouldn't be allowed anymore one the basis that "they can't take it away 100%".

Attention: this phone is a spyware device!

According to Samsung customer support and some members of this forum, this device does not have a built-in way of blocking Internet access for specific applications!
Many of those apps have permissions like "storage", "phone ID", "contacts", "calendar", "camera", "microphone", etc...
Therefore, when those applications are given Internet access they will be able to send all our data via the Internet...
That's why it would be of crucial importance and vital to have a built-in way of blocking Internet access to those apps.
For example, if an application has access to your data, to your storage or your contacts, it stands to reason that it should not have Internet access...
The only explanation for the lack of such an integrated system of blocking Internet access for specific applications can only be explained by the fact that Samsung and Google intend to have all our data and info sent over the Internet ... probably for specific domains ...
Google, Samsung or any other companies should not have, simultaneously, access to our storage data, contacts, calendar, camera, microphone..., and Internet access to send out all those data and info...
Besides, most apps are proprietary... so nobody knows what info or data the app is really sending out...
(Curiously and as a side note, my son has a Huawei P10 and that device allows the user to block Internet access to specific apps).
Therefore, given that this Samsung device does not have a way to limit specific applications from reaching the Internet, the phone is a spyware device!
Niccolò Paganini said:
The only explanation for the lack of such an integrated system of blocking Internet access for specific applications can only be explained by the fact that Samsung and Google intend to have all our data and info sent over the Internet ... probably for specific domains ...
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Its google that doesn't want to implement an internet permission, we can block apps from access to storage/location/contacts and whatnot but not the internet, blame google not samsung.
peachpuff said:
Its google that doesn't want to implement an internet permission, we can block apps from access to storage/location/contacts and whatnot but not the internet, blame google not samsung.
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Well, blame them both. Samsung is knowingly 'accepting' the Google 'flaw' on it's phone. So Samsung is also culpable.
Talk about an Over the Top Melodramatic 1st post!
Stay off the internet - Get rid of your Smart TV - Live in a box... SMH
Sent from my SM-G955W ??
Niccolò Paganini said:
According to Samsung customer support and some members of this forum, this device does not have a built-in way of blocking Internet access for specific applications!
Many of those apps have permissions like "storage", "phone ID", "contacts", "calendar", "camera", "microphone", etc...
Therefore, when those applications are given Internet access they will be able to send all our data via the Internet...
That's why it would be of crucial importance and vital to have a built-in way of blocking Internet access to those apps.
For example, if an application has access to your data, to your storage or your contacts, it stands to reason that it should not have Internet access...
The only explanation for the lack of such an integrated system of blocking Internet access for specific applications can only be explained by the fact that Samsung and Google intend to have all our data and info sent over the Internet ... probably for specific domains ...
Google, Samsung or any other companies should not have, simultaneously, access to our storage data, contacts, calendar, camera, microphone..., and Internet access to send out all those data and info...
Besides, most apps are proprietary... so nobody knows what info or data the app is really sending out...
(Curiously and as a side note, my son has a Huawei P10 and that device allows the user to block Internet access to specific apps).
Therefore, given that this Samsung device does not have a way to limit specific applications from reaching the Internet, the phone is a spyware device!
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I wouldn't worry about it the NSA and Google already know everything about you.
without permissions 99% of your apps won't work. want to stop tracking ?dig deep into your account, real real deep to cut off a lot of privacy issues
then when you have time, google your name
pltctytc said:
....then when you have time, google your name
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Not much came out for me, just a Google+, Twitter, Photobucket and my company activity...
But: I must agree with OP to some extent...at the end it is weighting between functionality vs privacy.
Gregzi said:
Not much came out for me, just a Google+, Twitter, Photobucket and my company activity...
But: I must agree with OP to some extent...at the end it is weighting between functionality vs privacy.
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Agreeing to ANY extent with the OP's RIDICULOUS and ABSURD post & a Thread Title that is Entirely Misleading and Uninformed!
While everyone is entitled to their opinion - This Thread & Particularly it's Title are perilously close to warrant being Reported to the Mods!
It's a simple process to Disable Background Data for each and every Application that you decide to disable in Settings - Apps - Permissions - Data - Background /Toggle Off.
I made reference to Smart TV's as they are constantly "listening" in order to provide functionality - Then there's Laptop cameras which could be equally used to "spy" on their users... Are we to disable the functionality offered by Ok Google - Which is also "listening" to provide the functionality that we have come to expect from our technology?
Two Tin Cans and String are the bastion of the Paranoid & Conspiracy Theorists.
Sent from my SM-G955W ??
**** this I'm going back to a Palm Pixi so the NSA can't spy on me!
What if.....
The NSA IS Google?!
Seriously? You're downloading things from F-Droid and Yalp and you're concerned with what data individual apps are sending? If you don't trust an app to have an internet connection, why on earth are you using it? If you don't trust the company behind an app to use your data appropriately, whey are you using that app? Do you shut off all data so your internet/mobile provider can't sniff out what you're doing? Tin foil is relatively cheap.
Niccolò Paganini said:
The only explanation for the lack of such an integrated system of blocking Internet access for specific applications can only be explained by the fact that Samsung and Google intend to have all our data and info sent over the Internet ... probably for specific domains ...
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Surely this is "the only reason", surely. I'll assume you have thought through the entire process of creating a mobile phone operating system as complex as Android, and also every detail involved in creating an application ecosystem that scales to millions of user created applications access by billions of people that worldwide probably generates over a trillion dollars in overall economic revenue (including employment by business built around it, advertising money spent, etc). Surely you saw a foolproof way too easily do all of this AND follow seemingly arbitrary privacy rules? You MUST have also COMPLETELY ruled out every other innocent explanation using this model, including showing conclusively that it wouldn't cause ANRs, app crashes, or anything else. Right?
You also have data showing more than just you would revoke this permission right?
Right?
Mr. Orange 645 said:
What if.....
The NSA IS Google?!
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You mean you only just realised this NOW???!
I have to say, I'm always amazed how little people care about the spying that's being done through their phones. Saying "live in a box" or "just don't use the app" is a stupid response. You can still want to be part of society (which nowadays REQUIRES using whatsapp/facebook/google) EVEN THOUGH you're uncomfortable with the privacy implications. Someone acknowledging and being aware of this, and trying to improve upon it (or even simpler, just demanding improvements by the companies you pay a thousand dollar for a new phone) is often ridiculed as if it wouldn't matter, or people accept it as an something that is required for the systems we use. Social networks could work totally fine without being centralized, google maps doesn't actually need to send your location to google to function, and no app that i know of needs to send your usage of the phone to their company to do whatever it promises to do. Yet many apps do. It's not so much about that it is possible, the problem is that it is allowed. It shouldn't be allowed, much of the data collection should simply be outlawed. But, since hardly anyone seems to care, I don't see that coming anytime soon. I've tried to find people interested in this, but not even on reddit /r/privacy/ this seems to be a major concern.
@the_toast
There's a difference between being responsible for the amount of privacy you have and the amount of personal information that has already been made available... long before people were even aware of the amount of personal information that was already gleaned from the Products and Services that you have been using for years. To some extent trying to reign in your personal information is like closing the barn door after the horse is long gone.
The guy who originally posted this Thread is focusing his "panic" on one device and THAT is naive and Grossly Misleading!
Whether it's FB (which I don't use) or signing up for a Loyalty card - Your personal information is everywhere! Using common sense going forward is the only rational approach, but standing on an imaginary mountain top and shouting to the world that one device is "spyware" is ridiculous and deserves to be called out ?
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Ahh, the time of the Internet where everyone knows who you are, what you're doing, what you're buying, what sites you browse, your fetishes, etc. Most importantly, here in the U.S., your IP now can sell your internet history to anyone they please, even that time you looked up 2 girls and a cup. Sorry, Charlie, your life is no longer a private one and never will be again.
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Ahh, the time of the Internet where everyone knows who you are, what you're doing, what you're buying, what sites you browse, your fetishes, etc. Most importantly, here in the U.S., your IP now can sell your internet history to anyone they please, even that time you looked up 2 girls and a cup. Sorry, Charlie, your life is no longer a private one and never will be again.
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And if you Travel into the USA... Did you know THIS?
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4494371#ampshare=http://www.cbc.ca/1.4494371
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@shaggyskunk True, the OP is alarmist and uninformed. I was just put off by many of the answers, which basically said "why do you use Internet then". With respect to your post about searching phones - we can easily make this a scare thread (and people would be scared for good reasons). Let me continue:
- apps that want to use your microphone without apparent reason (of course also the ones WITH a good reason to use the mic) can track you through high-pitched sounds you cannot hear, which are emitted e.g. by some retailers to track you through their store.
- You talk about 1 in 13.000 people arriving in the US getting their phone/laptop looked at and potentially copied? How about knowing for 1Bn people (1 in 7 on earth) who they talk with, when they talk with them, and in which location they are whenever their phone has internet. That's Whatsapp.
@MiMtnBiker Gnn that's exactly my problem, people just accept it and believe it's never going to change. I'm not happy they know what kind of porn I'm looking at, and even less happy that they could sell the information (although I don't live in the US). If it is that way, it CAN be fixed, you CAN prohibit selling this information. Or to collect it at all. It's definitely better to know the big 5 have all my information but won't have all future information about me than to know they can continue like this forever
@the_toast
Many of the answers - including "live in a box" - "stay off the internet" were in direct response to the careless & irresponsible comments by the OP - like = like?
Not only your phone has the potential to gain access to your personal information - But your Laptop camera - Your Smart TV (that is "listening") But this technology is something that most people appreciate and expect their tech to provide them with the functionality that they want - Being aware of the capabilities of your Tech is prudent - being paranoid & frightened by it is just sad.
The issues of Privacy are extensive and if someone decides to pull on that thread - it's going to be never ending.
Common sense & being informed is the most appropriate way to go ??
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the_toast said:
@shaggyskunk True, the OP is alarmist and uninformed. I was just put off by many of the answers, which basically said "why do you use Internet then". With respect to your post about searching phones - we can easily make this a scare thread (and people would be scared for good reasons). Let me continue:
- apps that want to use your microphone without apparent reason (of course also the ones WITH a good reason to use the mic) can track you through high-pitched sounds you cannot hear, which are emitted e.g. by some retailers to track you through their store.
- You talk about 1 in 13.000 people arriving in the US getting their phone/laptop looked at and potentially copied? How about knowing for 1Bn people (1 in 7 on earth) who they talk with, when they talk with them, and in which location they are whenever their phone has internet. That's Whatsapp.
@MiMtnBiker Gnn that's exactly my problem, people just accept it and believe it's never going to change. I'm not happy they know what kind of porn I'm looking at, and even less happy that they could sell the information (although I don't live in the US). If it is that way, it CAN be fixed, you CAN prohibit selling this information. Or to collect it at all. It's definitely better to know the big 5 have all my information but won't have all future information about me than to know they can continue like this forever
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I'm afraid the only way you are going to change it is to completely get off the grid. Many people are oblivious to the fact that they are willingly giving up their personal information when they have their noses buried in their smartphones pert near all day. What's worse is that the politicians only seem to cater to the wealthy, and since they are salivating at the idea of getting their grubby hands on your info, this will continue. Unless there is a huge uprising and people assemble in protest of this, it will not stop. Heck, I don't even think it will stop, then. Nope, money is the reason as to why this won't change and, unfortunately, you have no say in the matter. Unless, that is, you do get completely off the grid.

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My phone is hijacked and under control of maniacs. I need to identify and stop them!

For some time now, many years, I have experienced problems with my cellular telephone that I could not explain or rectify. I know I am being hacked and no matter how many times I factory reset the phone the problems still exist. My phone has been lost and stolen in which insurance has replaced the phone and in no time or immediately I experience the exact same problems. My videos and pictures are altered, deleted or hidden. All the programs or applications seem to be altered or customized with options that are not the genuine developer or creator options and images. The graphics associated with the applications and web pages are not the genuine images and I am sure that violates trademark, copyright, intellectual property rights and other laws I am not aware of. Web pages information, contact information, address information, and content are altered and changed which can affect all sorts of areas such as personal safety, product safety, access to information is blocked, altered or displayed in ways that make it impossible to get directions, product availability, law enforcement help, legal help and information. When I use Google Maps for directions, it will take me down one way streets the opposite direction toward oncoming traffic,, have ludicrous directions, unnecessary turns, wrong speed limits, and out right wrong directions or even switch my end point without my knowledge. I tried to order cleaning gloves and masks today, and no store in my city was in stock, and delivery was not until July the 5th, 2020. I am also experiencing the same things with all my electronics such as my computer, smart televisions, printers and gps units. I did a screen recording of the applications on my phone, and the about phone section. I know from that it is apparent that my phone is hacked and under control of some other party or person. Someone is either maliciously attacking me with the purpose to cause extreme harm for reasons of personal enjoyment, or my name, reputation and activities have been purposely misled and lied about in a gross manner where a cellular telephone developer, or a technology hacker, or information pirate or mercenary developed and/or gave someone or some group a program and knowledge on how to capture my phone and all other electronics and hold it hostage. I have tried to root the phone in order to put a custom rom on it, but my searches and efforts are blocked and never get any traction or success. I am attaching the screen capture video- it is 20+ minutes and will show the extent of the hacking. Someone is perverting and illegally using developers tools, programs, applications and code in ways that were never intended and can only lead to extreme problems of which in all honesty death or terminal scenarios are all real possibilities. I am hoping to identify these people with your help, and bring them to justice and alleviate my life problems that this has caused and stop the illegal and intentional perversion of the original intent for cellular development which is the fruitful search for knowledge and advancement of useful and legal technology. Please help me in this battle to which all operations on my device are unsuccessful, disheartening, and uncontrollable. Thank you in advance and if this should be posted in another area or forum please advise, however I am posting it in a few that I think are relevant. I live in Houston, Texas- so if there is a group of developers, or some people that can help me combat this locally please message me their contact information. Take care. - Dale-
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