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Has anyone tried plugging in a USB HDD?

i was wondering, what if i got a USB harddrive, and plugged it into my hermes?
would WM6 even notice its there?
this is assuming i've got a externally powered HDD that uses the normal USBHOST.
i searched "usb harddrive" in the hermes forums and not many things turned up..

If you have one lying around, give it a go?!

JamesHolden said:
i searched "usb harddrive" in the hermes forums and not many things turned up..
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that might be the clue to your answer..... the usb port in the phone lacks the capability to host an actual usb device, whether the external device is powered or not... But give it a go anyway... i cant think of any harm in trying... unless there is some kind of major power backflow, but that shouldnt happen unless your external device is faulty

the OS may support it, but hardware-wise - i dont think the Hermes supports USB hosting? or does it?

My brain says no...
But the hope in me says yes...

Wondered about this myself before.
Doesnt the HTC have the ability to act as an external UsB drive through the USB port when connected to a PC using the Advanced USB settings. Maybe its just a question of reversing the settings maybe with an added utility or something i have an external hard drive but not converter to convert the full usb to a mini usb

4Site said:
Wondered about this myself before.
Doesnt the HTC have the ability to act as an external UsB drive through the USB port when connected to a PC using the Advanced USB settings. Maybe its just a question of reversing the settings maybe with an added utility or something i have an external hard drive but not converter to convert the full usb to a mini usb
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having the device mimmick and external drive and plugging in external storage through USB are 2 completly different things... and it all comes down to the USB host... when you plug your phone into your pc your computer then is able to act as a usb host, as it has the power and the drivers necessary for that... the phone itself lacks the abiltiy to be able to become a usb host...
but hey, at least your thinking

So it may be possible to access a USB HDD if we catered for it using a driver of some sort (written by us guys ofcourse). This may even show up in the file manager as something like /Hard_Drive.?

main procesor (and also OS itself) have support for USB host, but for some reason HTS decide to not enable this feature, it was asked many times, but solution doesnt exist yet... I used this functionallity on my old Fujitsu-Siemens LOOX n500 without necesity to install any drivers, or registry hack, after connection device had available after few second. It was WM5 device.

well think about this:
keep a laptop usb HDD in your car, 160GB of music at your command, with TCPMP who needs a ipod?
i've already modded my stock headset cable to have a 1/8" miniplug AND RCA's on it, so i'm set for the output, but my 4GB of microsd cards just don't cut it
so i'm working on tryin' to find a usb mini b male to usb b male cable right now, might just have to solder one up myself-- i'll post to see how it goes.

I think I've seen them for sale at Radioshack and Compusa - might try peaking in there though if you have a bunch of USB cables kicking around probably cheaper to solder

IF you look around on the net somewhere, someone successfully made a wifi hard drive, and i think it was fairly inexpensive... He loaded tons of mp3's and would access them from his phone via wifi.

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/consumer_electronics/DAVE/
How about this?

skunker said:
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/consumer_electronics/DAVE/
How about this?
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Now I got to get me one of these. So many toys, not enough time.

jcb_home said:
Now I got to get me one of these. So many toys, not enough time.
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Looks nice!

I just tried this. And nothing happens. Tried a usb memory key (low power), an external HDD (on its own power supply) and a card reader, none of them did anything.

thanks for the go.. after my weekend spent messing with *nix and tryin' to get into locked up wifi, i was spent.

X1 USB Host

Does any1 who has it knows if Xperia supports USH hub or mass storage?
If you connect an external USB stick or card reader, the Xperia is able to read from it?
I have asked on developer's forum, but no one was able to answer, so i thjought any1 who has it can try an tell me.
Thanx!

you can choose btw. mass storage or active sync in the settings.

DocMAX said:
you can choose btw. mass storage or active sync in the settings.
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I don't think that's what he means.... He wants to know if you can hookup an external card reader!

DocMAX said:
you can choose btw. mass storage or active sync in the settings.
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The question was if it could read from a mass storage device or a USB stick, not the opposite.
Afaik the USB port has no host mode, but on many devices today the hardware supports changing from slave to host mode. If so, it has to be some kind of firmware hack to do it.
Btw, the mass storage setting is superior to the ActiveSync mode in bitrate when transfering large files, like music and movies.

The truth is that MSM7200A natively supports "USB on the go", but if SE utilizes it, is another matter. Other HTC devices with the similar Qualcomm chip don't support it.
I wonder if this is a hardware or software issue (just like TV-out only difference being that on HTC devices it is enaled).

I have already check it with usb host cable from Toshiba G900 but nothings happend :-( Maybe it's just a metter of proper drivers or maybe it's just not implemented.

use wmStorage
http://deblor-freewaresmartphone.blogspot.com/2007/12/wmstorage-v18.html

damion.lamaison said:
http://deblor-freewaresmartphone.blogspot.com/2007/12/wmstorage-v18.html
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Does this work with WM 6.1. Someone should test anyway.
(I hate it that I am still waiting for mine for over 2 weeks)

I was somehow misundestood.
Let's say i'm out of the office whitout the notebook. I meet with a friend and i want to give him some files on a usb stick. I connect the stick to the Xperia, write the files from Xperia memory/email/whatever to the USB stick. Then we go an drink beer
Is that scenario possible?
I'm waiting for my Xperia to arrive (they say about 25th of nov.), but i want to know. I will test.
Maybe someone will write an app that can do that until i got my Xperia

I'm pretty sure that USB host has to be enabled in firmware not software. I read in a few places recently that practically all the chips include USB host these days, but many manufacturers do not utilise the ability. I think it's likely that they'll add USB host as a killer feature in Xperia X2 to try to entice us to upgrade.

memtronic said:
I was somehow misundestood.
Let's say i'm out of the office whitout the notebook. I meet with a friend and i want to give him some files on a usb stick. I connect the stick to the Xperia, write the files from Xperia memory/email/whatever to the USB stick. Then we go an drink beer
Is that scenario possible?
I'm waiting for my Xperia to arrive (they say about 25th of nov.), but i want to know. I will test.
Maybe someone will write an app that can do that until i got my Xperia
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That's exactly what USB on the go is. If the USB stack on a device is hardware implemented it can't be done. Of course as I said that Qualcomm SoC supports it but we don't know if HTC,SE utilizes it. Also, we don't know if it is a driver or software issue.

Connect hdd usb mass storage device to nexus one

Hello!
I have seen that it has a driver for it http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/04/nexus-one-gets-usb-host-driver-from-a-dude-with-an-oscilloscope/ .
But where to download and how to use?

Search you must...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694427
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

but there is no instruction how do I setup it for HDD drive, and how i setup the driver!

Most other people think there's enough info, but I must admit, it's not that clear to me (but I could probably get there).
The OP seems pretty responsive to SPECIFIC questions, so you could always try and ask?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

danger-rat said:
Search you must...
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LOL! That sounds like Yoda.

HDD drive is just another mass storage device. What works for USB Flash, will most probably work for USB drives too.
But as you could probably see, it's not an easy switch, you need to do a lot to connect it - which makes it a bit obsolete, at least until OTG drivers are used, allowing both USB host and device operation.

Can i use normal nexus one usb cabel for that? I found some instructions how to flash drivera, but how to use it, after you flashed em?

[Q] a little housekeeping a500 q's

Hello all
Just bought one of these off the net for the missus so ill be active around these threads as well. Personally i have a xoom this will be like my second to flash the heck out of lol but as I've been reading about these i have a couple small questions
1. Is the sd card working on stock rom so i can flash customs or will an update to 3.1 be required like the xoom?
2. Does the usb port work as host out of the box?
3. Whats the general stable oc you guys are achieving?
I have tried to search these but some are hazy on the specs or they are outdated
Cheers
Sent from my mind control device

joshndroid said:
Hello all
Just bought one of these off the net for the missus so ill be active around these threads as well. Personally i have a xoom this will be like my second to flash the heck out of lol but as I've been reading about these i have a couple small questions
1. Is the sd card working on stock rom so i can flash customs or will an update to 3.1 be required like the xoom?
2. Does the usb port work as host out of the box?
3. Whats the general stable oc you guys are achieving?
I have tried to search these but some are hazy on the specs or they are outdated
Cheers
Sent from my mind control device
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Fastest claimed speed is 1.64ghz, stable closer to 1.5.
SD card does work on stock, actually is required for flashing. As yet you can't flash from on board only external.
USB seems to work for some devices not others depending on whether you use the full size USB or the mini. Look on the market for USB mount all, you do need fat32 not ntfs though
Anyone want to contradict any of this?

Cheers mate thats good to hear except for the host feature thats the whole point hoppwfulky i get a good one
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Yes USB host [the fullsize USB not the mini] works out of the box. If your USB device requires power though - like some external HDD's - it may not work as there might not be enough power draw.
The mini USB is for the connection to your computer and SDK/ADB/general File transfer use - along side the Acer USB driver install [so make sure you've got the Acer USB driver installed on the computer(s) you plan on using to push files to the tab though mini-USB].

gammaRascal said:
Yes USB host [the fullsize USB not the mini] works out of the box. If your USB device requires power though - like some external HDD's - it may not work as there might not be enough power draw.
The mini USB is for the connection to your computer and SDK/ADB/general File transfer use - along side the Acer USB driver install [so make sure you've got the Acer USB driver installed on the computer(s) you plan on using to push files to the tab though mini-USB].
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Yeh as i said im well advised due my xoom on rooting and android adb, drivers (not being a know it all smart azz) just those couple q got me thinking.. Thanks for a second opinion seems very similar to xoom. Shame how host cant produce 5v at 500ma it wouldnt be to hard for them to up the lousy 3.7v it seems they are running now
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eglathangion said:
Fastest claimed speed is 1.64ghz, stable closer to 1.5.
SD card does work on stock, actually is required for flashing. As yet you can't flash from on board only external.
USB seems to work for some devices not others depending on whether you use the full size USB or the mini. Look on the market for USB mount all, you do need fat32 not ntfs though
Anyone want to contradict any of this?
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You can use internal for flashing if you're using thors latest recovery.
sent through a series of pipes and tubes

[Q] Apoligies if repeat Q: will a usb hub work with Nexus 7?

I had read in some other random forum that if you have rooted your Nexus 7, which I have, and run app "StickMount" you can connect a usb thumb drive to the nexus and give yourself more space, even install apps to the USB drive to run from. I am wondering (and am going to test it out later this evening) if anyone has tried connecting a USB hub, so that you can have say 4 ports to add different drives or game controllers/whatever else and android will recognize the different devices?
As a realist, I'm just hoping the single USB stick connection will actually work as a storage expansion area, as we all know there is no micro SD slot. I actually have an old college friend I keep in touch with who works on the Nexus development team, who had no good answer as to why micro SD was removed, as well as the ability on devices with a micro SD no longer allow the installation of apps to the sd card. I was pretty convinced it was simply because the OEMs decided to name their internal memory /mnt/sdcard which used to be the external card's mount point name, but I'm told it is more complicated than that. Am I the only one that really feels like no apps to the SD in ICS or jellybean, is quite a downgrade? I understand we can use the "cloud" now ... but that's simply not the same, and surely not as fast as a local drive (maybe?) I then proceeded to yell at him to not let the group of stupid consumers influence the great features that the half-brained+ consumers know how to properly use, to no avail. Using the micro to full USB port to mount a thumb drive seemed to be the best way to add more storage locally. Thoughts? Thanks
- Herby
- Real-time embedded software developer going on 12 years, working in the satcom, medical device, aircraft display, and aerospace domains

NM - Just found app "USB Host controller" which does exactly what I asked Yayyyy!!
There are actually a whole slew of these that are even free, most require root however, which I recommend using the program with GUI interface developed specifically to unlock the bootloader, and then root the nexus 7. I think it was called Root_Toolbox or something like that. I am not at home or I would report back the official name. If anyone wants it just let me know. Thank you!

Herby6262 said:
I had read in some other random forum that if you have rooted your Nexus 7, which I have, and run app "StickMount" you can connect a usb thumb drive to the nexus and give yourself more space, even install apps to the USB drive to run from. I am wondering (and am going to test it out later this evening) if anyone has tried connecting a USB hub, so that you can have say 4 ports to add different drives or game controllers/whatever else and android will recognize the different devices?
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A hub works great. I've had 3 flash sticks mounted at once along with a mouse and everything has worked without a hitch.
The caveat here is to ensure you're not pulling too much current - the OTG max current source spec is alot less than the 500mA a normal USB PC host port is able to source.