Bell Atrix the same as At&t Atrix? - Atrix 4G General

Any one know if there the same? hardware wise? Like if I where to flash a US/at&t
based rom whould it run/work on a bell Atrix?
How does this work on other phones?

The only differences that I can foresee may be whether or not the FM radio, Tethering and Hotspot capabilities will be activated out of the box. I'm sure Bell's version will have all of it enabled.

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[Q] tethering

Hi all
at the moment i have a touch pro2 which because it didnt come from Vodafone allows me to tether to my laptop.
Its upgrade time and i am thinking of going for the Desire Z
this will probably come from vodafone.
does anyone know if this can be tethered?
if not is there a way to unlock it to enable tethering
thanks in advance
I know that the T-mobile G2 tethers out of the box because it has stock android which has native tethering.
The DZ on the other hand has HTC Sense and is more than likely blocked by the carrier.
Either way, if you root, you will be able to wirelessly tether. So I can at least confirm for you that it is physically possible to do lol.
martonikaj said:
I know that the T-mobile G2 tethers out of the box because it has stock android which has native tethering.
The DZ on the other hand has HTC Sense and is more than likely blocked by the carrier.
Either way, if you root, you will be able to wirelessly tether. So I can at least confirm for you that it is physically possible to do lol.
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Why does having Sense make the DZ any more likely to have things blocked or changed by the carrier? The G2 is close to "vanilla" Android, but still has some hidden HTC tinkering.
The Bell DZ tethers wirelessly and acts as a WiFi hotspot, out of the box. The European DZ ROM is supposedly more stock than the Bell ROM, so it should do the same. But a Vodafone user can verify.
I can confirm that you can tether out of the box with no problem. I running a costum Rom at the moment but i could do it even before that. Vodafone uk desire z .
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Thanks for that
bahmanxda can i ask if you got your phone from a 3rd party retailer or direct from vodaphone?
thanks
redpoint73 said:
Why does having Sense make the DZ any more likely to have things blocked or changed by the carrier? The G2 is close to "vanilla" Android, but still has some hidden HTC tinkering.
The Bell DZ tethers wirelessly and acts as a WiFi hotspot, out of the box. The European DZ ROM is supposedly more stock than the Bell ROM, so it should do the same. But a Vodafone user can verify.
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The stock G2 ROM is less likely to have a tinker done by the carrier to block WiFi Tether (But it doesn't). Every Sense-based ROM on a US phone has WiFi tethering blocked that I've seen. But like I said, I didn't know about the Euro carriers.
I got it direct from vodafone
Also if you want to make sure. you can go to htc website and check the
Specifitations for desire z. it has said that
You can do both usb and wifi tether.it comes with an app called portable wifi.
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martonikaj said:
The stock G2 ROM is less likely to have a tinker done by the carrier to block WiFi Tether (But it doesn't). Every Sense-based ROM on a US phone has WiFi tethering blocked that I've seen. But like I said, I didn't know about the Euro carriers.
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I can see that logic that the "G" series is supposed to as close to a "true" Google phone as you can get (aside from the Nexus series), and therefore less "customizations" from carriers.
But keep in mind that US carriers block much more aggressive about blocking features (so they can charge for those features) than in most other countries. The Canadian and Euro (don't know about Asia) Sense ROMs are chock full of features, including native WiFi hotspot and USB tethering. In fact, one of choices that pops up the second you connect the Desire Z to a PC via USB is the option to tether.

Hd2 on at&t

I have a hd2 tmobile usa version, i need a At&t friendly Nand rom. Whats the best rom out there for At&t????
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as far as I know any NAND Android ROM should work on AT&T as it is not the ROM that controls this but a combination of you sim card, APN settings, and you having your HD2 sim unlocked. Wait for more replies though as I do not use AT&T and it might actually be a ROM out there that has certain things adjusted for AT&T, but what that might be I do not know.
This is true, the ROM does not control the radio. There are methods of flashing the radio to a different version, one that may work for the AT&T 3G bands. I am looking them up, but that is how you would flash the device to change the radio.
Hardware wise, the GSM module does support all world wide bands but what makes then different from one HD2 from one carrier ot another is the firmware version that is used in the phones that make them work on the network's bands. Correct me if i am wrong though.
TKETZ196 said:
This is true, the ROM does not control the radio. There are methods of flashing the radio to a different version, one that may work for the AT&T 3G bands. I am looking them up, but that is how you would flash the device to change the radio.
Hardware wise, the GSM module does support all world wide bands but what makes then different from one HD2 from one carrier ot another is the firmware version that is used in the phones that make them work on the network's bands. Correct me if i am wrong though.
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Untrue my friend, the T-Mobile HD2 only supports the bands used by T-Mobile for 3G. If you sim unlock the T-Mobile HD2 you can use the device with other carriers but you will only get Edge for a data signal as the hardware only supports the T-Mobile 3G bands. There is a model of the HD2 that supports a different 3G band the same ones AT&T uses in the US, it is the Australian model that Telstra a Australian cell carrier released as they use the same bands as AT&T. go to "Official HD2 T9193 (Telstra 850Mhz) Discussion Thread" and you can learn more about it. I also saw your other post in another thread about trying to help your friend out getting 3G on his HD2 using AT&T. Unless he is willing to buy a Telstra HTC HD2 T9193 or have his T-Mobile HTC HD2 T8585 worked on to switch out the hardware for the hardware in the T9193 then he will never getb 3G with AT&T.
Just to answer your question, every rom is an AT&T friendly ROM, meaning, they'll allow you to talk, text and surf the internet.
What you DONT have is AT&T 3G on your tmous HD2. You'll be stuck with EDGE speed.
Thank you all 4 your help,greatly apreciated!! I'm in puerto rico where tmobile is still on Edge. But for some reason tmobile is still alot faster when it comes to receiving & sending MMS than At&t on this phone. Currently using Coredroid 1.5
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its interesting they would use different hardware GSM modules for the slightly different models. I would think the radio firmware version woudl take care of that. Thanks for clarification. I assumed that all GSM modules would be built the same way.
Sadly they are not, this in my opinion is just cellular carriers trying to keep you locked to their networks cause the know most people don"t want to have to buy another device when changing carriers if they already have a good device. So they make it were branded devices can only utilize high speed data with it's intended carriers network. I think this is unfair to consumers, but again just my opinion.
T-Macgnolia said:
Sadly they are not, this in my opinion is just cellular carriers trying to keep you locked to their networks cause the know most people don"t want to have to buy another device when changing carriers if they already have a good device. So they make it were branded devices can only utilize high speed data with it's intended carriers network. I think this is unfair to consumers, but again just my opinion.
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I think there is technical reason. The various carriers have very different technologies. Even AT&T uses a different 3G network than T-Mobile, despite the fact that both are GSM. Sprint and Verizon use non GSM technologies that are even more different. When a device manufacturer makes a certain model, there is only so much room inside, and unless one wants a really thick and heavy device, a choice has to be made as to which hardware goes into the phone.
I'm not saying that they don't want you to stay on their network - they do, which is why they have those 2 year contracts in exchange for buying a discounted phone. But I don't think that is why the hardware is different.
stevedebi said:
I think there is technical reason. The various carriers have very different technologies. Even AT&T uses a different 3G network than T-Mobile, despite the fact that both are GSM. Sprint and Verizon use non GSM technologies that are even more different. When a device manufacturer makes a certain model, there is only so much room inside, and unless one wants a really thick and heavy device, a choice has to be made as to which hardware goes into the phone.
I'm not saying that they don't want you to stay on their network - they do, which is why they have those 2 year contracts in exchange for buying a discounted phone. But I don't think that is why the hardware is different.
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Point taken
I would go further with the discussion but I do not want to hijack this thread.

[Q] Baseband Switcher Purpose

This may sound like a stupid question, but I have the defy and am planning on buying a Galaxy Nexus. This is something I´ve always wondered, but now it´s more of a concern since I´m buying a GNex from the US (Unlocked, unblocked and unblured!!) and am planning to use it in Argentina. So the doubt came up:
1-)Why does the Motorola Defy need a baseband switcher (if supposedly it´s a Quad band phone)?
2-)Do other phones (like the Google GNex) need to switch basebands as well to work in other countries/areas?
IonAphis said:
This may sound like a stupid question, but I have the defy and am planning on buying a Galaxy Nexus. This is something I´ve always wondered, but now it´s more of a concern since I´m buying a GNex from the US (Unlocked, unblocked and unblured!!) and am planning to use it in Argentina. So the doubt came up:
1-)Why does the Motorola Defy need a baseband switcher (if supposedly it´s a Quad band phone)?
2-)Do other phones (like the Google GNex) need to switch basebands as well to work in other countries/areas?
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Its needed when running a custom ROM. The custom ROM's need that as the communication channel of the service providers vary. Baseband switcher, in a sense calibrate your radio to a particular range of frequencies.
As for GNexus, If you run it on stock, and its unlocked,I don't think you'll need a baseband switcher.

Possible GSM Mod ?

I know that the sprint variant of the LG G2 was modded to work on GSM radios such as tmobile.. is there any insight on making this happen on this device ? id love to use this with tmo :good:
SystemErrorOne said:
I know that the sprint variant of the LG G2 was modded to work on GSM radios such as tmobile.. is there any insight on making this happen on this device ? id love to use this with tmo :good:
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Discussion of this has been ongoing in the General forum. The assessment is, despite the implication that there's a GSM band in the Crystal's modem, there really isn't one, and it is impossible to use GSM on the device. Supposedly, the SoftBank model has GSM, but we can't exactly confirm that the Sprint and Boost variants are based on the exact same hardware.
http://www.softbank.jp/en/mobile/product/smartphone/aquos-crystal/ The SoftBank site says it can do international GSM as a world phone, but tests say Sprint and Boost can't. It's not exactly confirmed what's going on.
The device is set up with VoLTE, so assuming the carrier has VoLTE on their 4G signal, a GSM carrier would work just fine, but we haven't seen any luck with it yet. Software block is an assumption right now, so maybe when the bootloader is unlocked, but that's still a ways away. We've not even achieved full root yet.

AT&T: 930U or 930A

Hi - I am buying an S7 and am on AT&T.
I am having trouble understanding the differences between purchasing unlocked from Samsung / Best Buy (domestic version) or directly AT&T version.
I assume the AT&T version will have some bloatware but otherwise are there specific pros and cons I need to be aware of? I know they are both Snapdragon and other than that they seem the same so Im uncertain what to factor into this decision.
Thank you.
lirong said:
Hi - I am buying an S7 and am on AT&T.
I am having trouble understanding the differences between purchasing unlocked from Samsung / Best Buy (domestic version) or directly AT&T version.
I assume the AT&T version will have some bloatware but otherwise are there specific pros and cons I need to be aware of? I know they are both Snapdragon and other than that they seem the same so Im uncertain what to factor into this decision.
Thank you.
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I bought an unlocked AT&T branded GS7 mainly because I wanted to use Wifi calling. Also, I don't believe HD Voice would work with an non AT&T branded phone.
No bloat
No wifi calling
No volte
No native video calling
No advanced messaging
I bought the unlocked version and so far no issues with LTE, LTE+.
G930A has FM radio chip enabled, while G930U not (yet?) . You have to install a third party app for it to work (bloated NextRadio) and being honest, the reception of the FM antenna (actually your headphones) is far from good, with a lot of noise in urban dense areas while cheaper phones on the same location are much better.

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