Mobile AP vs. Barnacles - Vibrant General

As you know Vibrant finally received the 2.2 update which everyone, including myself, was excited. One thing I was really waiting for was the wifi hotspot even though I was using Barnacles with 2.1 until T-Mo started charging for tethering.
What I want to know is will T-Mo charge me if I use Barnacles as a wifi hotspot tether? If yes, how can they know that I'm using that since it's not and official app. Thanks!

You know I have been using Mobile Ap for 3 months now and I don't pay the $15 tethering fee. they just want you to pay more! even got a text saying tethering was being blocked unless I paid the $15 fee. but they have not blocked it to this day. ether way once you hit 5gb download a month they with throttle your 3g speeds. even if you did pay the $15 for tethering. I am using tethering right now to write this message. at 7gb for the month so far. so don't worry about them blocking you from tethering.

No, it's just using your data, so you may get data throttled if excessive (5gb I believe)
M obileAP is better though for making your phone an ad hoc network.

Are you forcing edge though or have you found a way to get around the throttle?

darkside79 said:
You know I have been using Mobile Ap for 3 months now and I don't pay the $15 tethering fee. they just want you to pay more! even got a text saying tethering was being blocked unless I paid the $15 fee. but they have not blocked it to this day. ether way once you hit 5gb download a month they with throttle your 3g speeds. even if you did pay the $15 for tethering. I am using tethering right now to write this message. at 7gb for the month so far. so don't worry about them blocking you from tethering.
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Whats the work around in order to not pay for the tethering?

use Mobile AP. im using it now lol

Using MobileAP right now.
Never been throttled and have used wayyyyyyyyyyyy over 10 gigs a month (closer to 100).
Simple fix that I cannot verify.
Write protect the /throttle folders after deleting contents.
Use a advanced file manager to toss the commands at it.

Mobile AP and T959UVKA2 (vs T959UVJI6)
I've been a bit hesitant and slow about installing MobileAP, wanting both time to devote in case things go wrong AND a stretch of time when not traveling (same reason).
This weekend I was ready to proceed with installing, but had an upgrade pushed out (and accepted!) that changed the firmware from T959UVJI6 to T959UVKA2.
The original development MobileAP thread now seems to be locked, or at least I cannot post to it anymore, and the original moderator (developer?) seems to have moved on to other things. (Not unreasonably, since he met his needs.)
It doesn't appear that T959UVKA2 is going to be supported. Since this is an upgrade from T959UVJI6, my question is: what are the possibilities if I try to install MobileAP for T959UVJI6?
1) It works
2) It doesn't (I guess I get a "Force Close"? Or something else?)
3) It trashes everything (I'm guessing not)
I guess I need to reread the thread to see how to remove MobileAP if it doesn't work...
Any pointers appreciated...

n2ishun said:
Using MobileAP right now.
Never been throttled and have used wayyyyyyyyyyyy over 10 gigs a month (closer to 100).
Simple fix that I cannot verify.
Write protect the /throttle folders after deleting contents.
Use a advanced file manager to toss the commands at it.
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can you go into details abt this as I am having a hard time believing that you hot almost 100gb a month.
I have exhausted every option to defeat throttling and none have been successful

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AT&T Gunning for Tethering Users

Please respond here if you are using the portable wifi feature of your nexus one and getting any SMS or e-mail notification from AT&T that they want you to pay for tethering.
I hear stories about people who get the "unlimited" data plan and then straight up abuse it (by providing internet for their entire household), which is probably why this is happening.
150+GB a month is what I consider abuse btw.
I don't see why you should pay for tethering. I think its just another way for them to make more money. Maybe for some people they don't wanna pay to have a separate internet source when they can use their phones as their internet source. I don't tether since atm I don't have unlimited data lol.
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Should be free and only pay for data...just another reason why I left at$t years ago!
I have T-Mobile and as of right now my "unlimited" is still unlimited but once you exceed 5GB for the month is DRAMATICALLY slows down.
I just moved in to a new place with my wife and son and I'm trying to cut down on extra bills (I'm the only working parent right now) so I don't have internet, I just tether off my phone.
I just exceeded 5GB for the first time ever and its horrible. I'm moving so slow, on my phone that is, its unreal.
uoY_redruM said:
I have T-Mobile and as of right now my "unlimited" is still unlimited but once you exceed 5GB for the month is DRAMATICALLY slows down.
I just moved in to a new place with my wife and son and I'm trying to cut down on extra bills (I'm the only working parent right now) so I don't have internet, I just tether off my phone.
I just exceeded 5GB for the first time ever and its horrible. I'm moving so slow, on my phone that is, its unreal.
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That is a bummer and I'm in simular boat...
Check this work around info for some possible help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
The only people getting flagged are iPhone accounts that are extreme abusers.
If you are abusing the service that much, then you should be paying for the higher package IMO.
I tether on my unlimited plan and have never had a problem, but I also don't abuse it. I barely break 1gb a month.
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The only people getting flagged are iPhone accounts that are extreme abusers.
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Because iOS's silly separate tethering config makes it easy to know exactly how much it's getting used. Not so simple on phones that route tethered data through the normal APN.
Yeah, I use tethering on my N1 on AT&T everyday and I haven't gotten anything from them yet. I don't abuse it, but where my house is, sort of in the woods (in Pennsylvania) where I can't get anything better than dial-up, so I use it just for basic email, Facebook, etc.
3UK now offer "all you can eat" data on Pay as you go. i plan to swap my T-Mobile SIM to my old 3 after this contract is up, i really hope the plan is still available then as i can see this being abused from day one!!
I tether my tablet to my phone almost daily, but it's pretty small usage. I am only using 300-400 megs a month on 3G now since AT&T took my unlimited away when they screwed with my account a while back. I mostly update or do stuff on wifi at home.
machina77 said:
3UK now offer "all you can eat" data on Pay as you go. i plan to swap my T-Mobile SIM to my old 3 after this contract is up, i really hope the plan is still available then as i can see this being abused from day one!!
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They don't allow tethering on PAYG. Same as Giffgaff, unlimited data without FUP, but no tethering.
I got a similar message from Cincinnati Bell Wireless, but they have not charged me. I don't really use tethering all that much.
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They don't allow tethering on PAYG. Same as Giffgaff, unlimited data without FUP, but no tethering.
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Ah! cheers for that info
Doesn't mean they'll ever notice you doing it, of course
XDA is no longer worth my time.
What I am having trouble understanding is what evidence is at&t Mobility using to determine if one is tethering or not.
They have a few choices, but as far as I can tell, none of them are perfect and all will have false positives.
Dan

Tethering over?

Sup guys,
I've been tethering with my vibrant for about 9 months. Yesterday I went online with tethering and got redirected to a Tmobile tethering page prompting me to enroll in a tethering plan. Is this new? Did I miss something?
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What method are you using to tether?
Mobile AP.
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It does that to me on my pc but not my mac.
no problems here.
SeanFloyd said:
Mobile AP.
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what's your approximate monthly data usage? are you downloading large files consistently while tethering?
Ive been using the built in tethering in most roms and have yet to have an issue since august of last year.
if you are using excessive data while tethering it may be throwing a red flag to tmobile cuz they can monitor what sites you visit as well as the user agent and the only reason i think they would do that is if you are abusively using your data connection
- Cheers
Regularly exceed 5GB a month and you'll most likely get your account flagged.
Install 3g watchdog. It'll give you a heads up before you incriminate yourself.
I use tethering and wi-fi hotspots occasionally and have never been flagged. I don't know if I just don't use enough data or I'm just lucky.
Try using a different browser. I get that redirected to that page when I use Chrome, but not when I use Internet Exploder. Also, for some reason, I still can use certain pages on Chrome (Facebook, Gmail) but even a simple Goog search will bring up the "Tmo tethering..." page for me. I find the URL of the page quite amusing as well.
I haven't had that page pop up for a while and still under the even more plan. For a while I was only able to use 100MB befor I was flagged. But now I don't know why I am not flagged nor do I care until I have to renew.
SeanFloyd said:
Sup guys,
I've been tethering with my vibrant for about 9 months. Yesterday I went online with tethering and got redirected to a Tmobile tethering page prompting me to enroll in a tethering plan. Is this new? Did I miss something?
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Not trying to stir things up, but why don't you just get:
a) tethering plan
b) home dsl/broadband
c) mobile web for whatever device you tethering to
You are paying for web access on your phone. Meaning surfing the web on your phone, downloading on your phone, watching videos on your phone, sending and receiving pics and multimedia on your phone, email, etc.
If you must tether to have web access on a different device, then you should pay for it.
NO, paying for unlimited web on your phone doesn't entitle you to "tether" that web access to other devices.
You can't afford an extra 15 bucks a month for dsl extreme? Then maybe you shouldn't be owning a smartphone if you are tight on cash
www.dslextreme.com
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Not trying to stir things up, but
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I 100% agree with you, man. But seriously, all you're doing with this is stirring things up.
SamsungVibrant said:
Not trying to stir things up, but why don't you just get:
a) tethering plan
b) home dsl/broadband
c) mobile web for whatever device you tethering to
You are paying for web access on your phone. Meaning surfing the web on your phone, downloading on your phone, watching videos on your phone, sending and receiving pics and multimedia on your phone, email, etc.
If you must tether to have web access on a different device, then you should pay for it.
NO, paying for unlimited web on your phone doesn't entitle you to "tether" that web access to other devices.
You can't afford an extra 15 bucks a month for dsl extreme? Then maybe you shouldn't be owning a smartphone if you are tight on cash
www.dslextreme.com
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you are stirring things up so just shut the F*ck up and mind your own business instead of telling other people how they should use or pay for their data. For a second I thought I was watching the Dr. Phil show.
SamsungVibrant said:
Not trying to stir things up...
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I'll chime in here. I recently changed my plan and they had put me on the 2gb which wasn't what I wanted. I had them change it back to 5gb and am paying the extra monthly. That said I consistently stay under 1gb because I'm usually near wifi and don't use my phone for excessive file downloads or anything. I recently went to Disney and had some school tests to take online while there. Rather than pay Disney $10 a day I decided to tether.
So are you saying that my extra 4gb a month that I don't use should just be ignored and I should have still paid the Disney fee because hey its a phone plan not an internet plan. Should I have to worry that T-Mobile is going to stop us from using this tool when we need it.
I agree that if someone is consistently using all or more of there data for tethering then yeah maybe they should be flagged but users like me who use it properly shouldn't have to be worried.
This of course is beside the fact that it shouldn't matter how I choose to use my data. What would be next? T-Mobile deciding that we can't go to sites such as YouTube because streaming videos uses too much bandwidth or I can't let my daughter go to Disney.com because its flash intensive and again uses too much bandwidth. If its 5gb or 2gb or unlimited then that's what it should be not only if you use it in a certain manner prescribed by some suit at T-Mobile who doesn't have to pay for his service anyway and therefore doesn't really understand how normal customers use the service.
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Thanks to homie who said try another browser.
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explodingboy70 said:
I'll chime in here. I recently changed my plan and they had put me on the 2gb which wasn't what I wanted. I had them change it back to 5gb and am paying the extra monthly. That said I consistently stay under 1gb because I'm usually near wifi and don't use my phone for excessive file downloads or anything. I recently went to Disney and had some school tests to take online while there. Rather than pay Disney $10 a day I decided to tether.
So are you saying that my extra 4gb a month that I don't use should just be ignored and I should have still paid the Disney fee because hey its a phone plan not an internet plan. Should I have to worry that T-Mobile is going to stop us from using this tool when we need it.
I agree that if someone is consistently using all or more of there data for tethering then yeah maybe they should be flagged but users like me who use it properly shouldn't have to be worried.
This of course is beside the fact that it shouldn't matter how I choose to use my data. What would be next? T-Mobile deciding that we can't go to sites such as YouTube because streaming videos uses too much bandwidth or I can't let my daughter go to Disney.com because its flash intensive and again uses too much bandwidth. If its 5gb or 2gb or unlimited then that's what it should be not only if you use it in a certain manner prescribed by some suit at T-Mobile who doesn't have to pay for his service anyway and therefore doesn't really understand how normal customers use the service.
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This is what I think. To improve customer service T-mobile should just include some free tethering use per month with each data plan for emergency use, maybe like 50-100mb data or something. As a courtesy.
However, then you have people like the original poster who has been tethering for 9 months? WTF? 9 months really? People like the original poster are the EXACT reason why we went from a 10gb cap to 5, and now 2gb on most data plans. Thank you original poster for abusing the system and not using your data plan as outlined in your terms/conditions, now people who truely use large amounts of data on their phone are capped and throttled at lower limits because of you.
Lolz - how will I ever carry on without your approval?
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This is all ridiculous, they want to charge you so you can use your laptop screen vs. your phone screen. Either way the data will be used.
ferhanmm said:
This is all ridiculous, they want to charge you so you can use your laptop screen vs. your phone screen. Either way the data will be used. pretty gay.
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UM NO, that DATA won't be used. You are obviously opting to use your laptop over your phone to complete some task because your phone is not convenient enough to complete the task. Maybe the screen is too small to surf the net or finish up your homework, or whatever the reason. So you decided to use your laptop, meaning you are no longer using data on your phone, instead you are "stealing" data by tethering, and transferring that data use onto another device to complete a task that your phone wasn't designed to do.
If your phone can do everything, and the data is going to be used anyway, then do it all on your phone. Why switch to your laptop?
Ahhh because you can't do everything on your phone. Otherwise you wouldn't switch to a more convenient laptop.
Have any of you even read the contract you agreed to with T-Mobile?
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ATT can detect unauthorized tethering. Forcing customers onto capped tethering plans

I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
This is old news. The release of Android 4.1 enabled carriers to see the difference between using data, and redistributing or tethering data.
There are work arounds for this. Some devs even remove this feature from their roms. You have to do your research on it though.
This is still good info though for new users.
Wow wish they would have threatened to cancel my service. I would have said thanks.
I just switched to the mobile share 8gb plan, which includes mobile hotspot, and have never gone over 6gb for the whole family ever with my old plan with 4 lines having 3gb and my unlimited costing nearly 400 a month now costs around 300. I don't think its too bad.
440bro said:
This is old news. The release of Android 4.1 enabled carriers to see the difference between using data, and redistributing or tethering data.
There are work arounds for this. Some devs even remove this feature from their roms. You have to do your research on it though.
This is still good info though for new users.
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would it be frowned upon if you posted said information?
jonrobertd said:
Wow wish they would have threatened to cancel my service. I would have said thanks.
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If they cancel your service you have to pay off the remainder of your contract agreement. For some it might not be to bad. But for someone that just renewed it could be costly!
krushin said:
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
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Hotspot shield from the play store really helps in this situation...
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FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
Da_G said:
110gb this cycle (8 days left)
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Geez. You have no idea how jealous I'm of people who still have Unlimited Data.
Thank you for making AT&T pay for being douche of a carrier. :good:
Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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haha good man
I'd stick to the atrix unless you know you can spoof/vpn the traffic (or what ever preventative measures). Just frustrating cause i dont even abuse my tether... like 3 gigs a month on an unlimited plan (and using unauthorized tethering)... they should pay me for NOT abusing it... lol.
Needless to say... now there is nothing "keeping" me at ATT once my contract is up... since i dont have my unlimited plan anymore! Hopefully in next year or so the other carriers (tmobile/sprint) will be just as good at half the price... i dont mind an ocassional dropped call/spotty coverage if it means i'm paying half :good:
Edit: Also made this post so others will know... so they don't "lose" unlimited plan and get screwed if they are new to the scene
Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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Please share your secret with me!!! I hit 5gb's and AT&T throttles me so hard it takes 10 minutes to download a 4mb app from the Play Store.
Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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110 GB?! What are you doing with your phone? Streaming 4K video 24/7?
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Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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I have these phones. Looks like I'll be flashing back to gingerbread! Woo! No more battery drain from experimental jelly bean.
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krushin said:
haha good man
I'd stick to the atrix unless you know you can spoof/vpn the traffic (or what ever preventative measures). Just frustrating cause i dont even abuse my tether... like 3 gigs a month on an unlimited plan (and using unauthorized tethering)... they should pay me for NOT abusing it... lol.
Needless to say... now there is nothing "keeping" me at ATT once my contract is up... since i dont have my unlimited plan anymore! Hopefully in next year or so the other carriers (tmobile/sprint) will be just as good at half the price... i dont mind an ocassional dropped call/spotty coverage if it means i'm paying half :good:
Edit: Also made this post so others will know... so they don't "lose" unlimited plan and get screwed if they are new to the scene
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T mobile will pay your early termination fees if you want out of your contract.
http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/switch-carriers-no-early-termination-fee.html
To the Op, are you 100% certain that this is you very FIRST time being contacted by AT&T? I ask ask you because along with myself and several of my former GS2 users we received messages from AT&T telling us that they saw that we were tethering and told us to stop or be forced to a tethering plan.So I chose to stop and not lose my unlimited plan. We all were on unlimited and I'm still on unlimited on my Note 3.
DA_G what APN are you using on your atrix. May worth a try for those of us running SS ROMs and can change APN.
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440bro said:
T mobile will pay your early termination fees if you want out of your contract.
Only works if you give up your current phone and buy t mobile ones for a monthly charge.
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I must have been a lucky one! BUT NOT AT THE SAME TIME!
krushin said:
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
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I was warned about 3 times about tethering with my phone. I too am an original unlimited data plan grandfathered in at $30 Bucks a MONTH! MUHAHAHA! The 1st time it happened it said on my bill "TETHERWARN" $0.00
Kind of scared me a bit but I continued to do it anyway and received 2 more warnings this way. I guess because it was only for a couple MB of data here and there. Some months nothing and other months just a tiny bit because I was scared at that point. Didn't want to lose my unlimited plan. :victory:
Unfortunately I found out we really don't have TRUE unlimited data anyway. After you go over 4.5GB used for the month you will receive a text message saying after 5GB you will be throttled big time!!! I was so SHOCKED by this! I can't believe I'm really only getting 5GB of data when it's supposed to be unlimited. I guess they changed everything after the family share crap started.
Figured I'd share this if anyone still has the grandfathered "Unlimited Data" plan. THEY ARE LIARS!
PS. I still tether THOUGH!! I have a windows surface tablet and use PDA NET for desktop and the FOXFI app in the play store! I can ONLY tether using bluetooth or USB though because the WiFi tether is disabled in settings now, which doesn't really bother me because it is fast enough to browse the web or even play World of Warcraft with the bluetooth tether option. It is actually decently fast with USB tether also. HERE'S THE BEST PART! PDA NET SCRUBS all PC data from the packets sent and received! There is an advanced addon feature you can download from FOXFI that does this for you. The free version shuts off at 50MB of data transferred and you just have to click the checkbox off and back on to get it to reconnect for an addition 50MB. OR, you can pay the 7 or 8 bucks for the full version and never be interrupted. I'm about to buy it because I haven't received any TETHER WARNS from att since I started using PDA NET! I think it does the scrubbing of PC data from the packets very well. I drive for a living so tethering for me is mandatory on my windows tablet. So if you are about to lose your data plan JUST BE CAREFUL and do your research! There is always a way with computers! Hoped this helps someone...Thanks for reading and sorry this is so LONGGGGGGGG!
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I still tether THOUGH!! I have a windows surface tablet and use PDA NET for desktop and the FOXFI app in the play store! PDA NET SCRUBS all PC data from the packets sent and received! There is an advanced addon feature you can download from FOXFI that does this for you. The free version shuts off at 50MB of data transferred and you just have to click the checkbox off and back on to get it to reconnect for an addition 50MB. OR, you can pay the 7 or 8 bucks for the full version and never be interrupted.
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This was what I've been looking for! Thank you.
I also have a grandfathered data plan, and get throttled after ~4.5GB of use. I've received several warnings about tethering but thankfully my family plan wasnt botched - I've just had to stop tethering... Until Now! PDA Net FTW.
Question!
If you tether from one ATT phone to another ATT phone or tablet (but not ATT), can they tell? (without having to use PDA NET)
krushin said:
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
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I received and email like that a couple of years ago except they told me to stop or else. Needless to say, I stopped.
That is a good question. I really don't know for certain because I no longer use my nexus 7 anymore since I got my windows surface. I do believe PDA Net has an android version which I would assume does the same thing as my desktop version. But then if you consider it's a mobile device with no PC info to scrub(I think that was your question) it might just look like it's your actual phone using that data. Really is a good question that I cannot answer with certainty. Sorry, I can't help with that one. :what::what::what::what:
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Been tethering for 6 years, finally got a notice from AT&T

I've been tethering for ~6 years now and have never gotten a notice from AT&T. I rarely use it (once every 2 months?) when in an emergency. I used a few tethering Apps back on the iPhone, and then I've always used CyanogenMod's built in tethering since switching over to Android without issue. I finally got a notice that says:
Like you, some of our customers use their smartphones as a broadband connection for other devices, like laptops, netbooks or other smartphones - a practice called mobile hotspot creation, or otherwise known as tethering....
To keep your current plan you'll need to stop using mobile hotspot/tethering by the end of the month. Please remove any tethering apps and make sure anyone who uses your device understands your current plan doesn't include mobile hotspot creation.
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Anyone have any tips on this? I use it very infrequently which is why I do not want to pony up for the $50 plan, but I rely on it in case of emergency.
hedpe said:
I've been tethering for ~6 years now and have never gotten a notice from AT&T. I rarely use it (once every 2 months?) when in an emergency. I used a few tethering Apps back on the iPhone, and then I've always used CyanogenMod's built in tethering since switching over to Android without issue. I finally got a notice that says:
Anyone have any tips on this? I use it very infrequently which is why I do not want to pony up for the $50 plan, but I rely on it in case of emergency.
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You didn't say,but are you on an unlimited plan? If so, and you want to stay unlimited, I suggest you stop tethering all together. AT&T is really looking hard for ways to get everyone off unlimited plans and ANY little excuse will do. Generally, small amounts of tethering just get looked over, so there is a good chance that you might have used more data tethering than you thought. That, or like I said, they aren't letting anything slip by any more. I am guessing you are "unlimited" because I doubt they would send a warning to any one on a paid plan (2 GIG, 3 GIG, etc...) per month, because every GIG over the plan limit includes an extra charge of it's own. So I don't think they really care how you use it as long as you are paying for it. The new "share" plans that AT&T offers includes tethering which further goes to show that they don't care about tethering as long as you pay for the data that is being used. So, you might want to consider switching to one of those plans. Basically, your options are to switch plans, or stop tethering because of you don't stop AT&T will switch the plan for you.
I got the same notice, but it was on a month when I wasn't tethering. I would tether other tablets and a few coworkers phones when they needed a big file.
What triggered the warning? I was watching Amazon prime streaming on my phone. Because I was going to the desktop website and streaming 4gb of movies, they assumed I was tethering.
That was 6 months and many tethers ago. And yes, I'm on the unlimited plan.
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Red_81 said:
I got the same notice, but it was on a month when I wasn't tethering. I would tether other tablets and a few coworkers phones when they needed a big file.
What triggered the warning? I was watching Amazon prime streaming on my phone. Because I was going to the desktop website and streaming 4gb of movies, they assumed I was tethering.
That was 6 months and many tethers ago. And yes, I'm on the unlimited plan.
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I have a feeling that AT&T has been slowly switching people off of the unlimited plan for a while now just to get the pool of people still on unlimited to a low number. Some, they switched on technicalities, and some switched on their own (due to throttling and things like that). They want to get the number of people still holding on to a low enough number so when they "discontinue" unlimited once and for all there will be a manageable ripple effect from it. I see that time coming very soon...one way or the other. I also think they are relying heavily on the "tethering' abuse situation in a more frequent way, even if it isn't true.
The best thing is I played dumb with the rep and asked how I could be tethering when the option tells me I don't have a tethering plan.
She proceeded to tell me all the programs I could download (by name) that I could use to get around that setting. She did tell me they just receive a report from another group and don't get the reason why tethering was detected. It was a real shame because I thought I was going to sweet talk the detection method out of her.
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Native hotspot on stock rooted

I found this in Sprint note 3 section. Used it on wifes phone. I will confirm this also works on note 4.
All credit goes to idone. Not my work. Just sharing here.
You MUST BE ROOTED.
Download sqlite editor. Open sqlite editor, select files. Then
/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db/
Select carriers. The last 2 lines (APN2LTE internet) and (APN2 EHRPD internet) you will see (default,mms), add ,dun.
It will look like this
default,mms,dun
Make changes in both lines, reboot, enjoy.
Native Hotspot works perfect on stock rooted with the GalaxyTools app. GalaxyTools is what most people are using to get native hotspot working. It's super easy(it's an app, so it doesn't get much easier than that), and it includes other useful features as well.
FYI, idone is the developer of GalaxyTools https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.idone.galaxymenu
I know I have it. This is just another way to do it so you dont have to use an app. Correct me if im wrong. If you use Galaxy Tools and delete app you delete hotspot mod.
llawen said:
I know I have it. This is just another way to do it so you dont have to use an app. Correct me if im wrong. If you use Galaxy Tools and delete app you delete hotspot mod.
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Look guyz... If you talk to sprint, native hot spot is now a free add-on. No more need for the hack.
Where did you here that. We called sprint last week. We was told $20 for 2gb, and $50 for 5gb. And 5 cents per mb overage.
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Where did you here that. We called sprint last week. We was told $20 for 2gb, and $50 for 5gb. And 5 cents per mb overage.
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I found it on my new bill and called sprint. Told them, HEY! I don't want that and I don't want to pay for it. Answer back was it's free. All you have to do is ask. Straight from sprint. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. My experience.
Well I did ask. Was told to pay for it. We hung up. Hacked it. Now it is free.
Its free in Galaxy Apps
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Its free in Galaxy Apps
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Ok, here's the word... Just talked to CS. if you upgrade phone and change the plan to a lower cost plan it gets thrown in. Sorry if I caused any confusion... My bad
EDIT : what sprint now calls a share plan... Less data but $30 a month less. No biggie for me.
what does having a "native Hot Spot" do??
im on a framily shared data plan.. will this benefit me??
thanks for any and all replies
jhill110 said:
Ok, here's the word... Just talked to CS. if you upgrade phone and change the plan to a lower cost plan it gets thrown in. Sorry if I caused any confusion... My bad
EDIT : what sprint now calls a share plan... Less data but $30 a month less. No biggie for me.
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Np. I was curious about it. My wife wanted it because att uverse pissed us off so we ditched them. She wanted to be able to pay bills on pc. This hack i posted here is perfect for her. She doesnt know anything about rooting phones and all these apps. For her less is better.... (Dont tell her I said that...roflmao). Im not giving up unlimited for anything. So hacking works for me.
jimmbomb said:
what does having a "native Hot Spot" do??
im on a framily shared data plan.. will this benefit me??
thanks for any and all replies
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Hot spot lets you share your data with another device. comes in handy if want to use pc away from home internet.
jimmbomb said:
what does having a "native Hot Spot" do??
im on a framily shared data plan.. will this benefit me??
thanks for any and all replies
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If you want to be an access point yes... Beyond that no... No benefit...
llawen said:
I found this in Sprint note 3 section. Used it on wifes phone. I will confirm this also works on note 4.
All credit goes to idone. Not my work. Just sharing here.
You MUST BE ROOTED.
Download sqlite editor. Open sqlite editor, select files. Then
/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db/
Select carriers. The last 2 lines (APN2LTE internet) and (APN2 EHRPD internet) you will see (default,mms), add ,dun.
It will look like this
default,mms,dun
Make changes in both lines, reboot, enjoy.
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Did this work on your wife's note 4?
I am running this mod on my note 4 now. Works great. I prefere this method.
The GalaxyTool method worked, overall. But I couldn't get it connect to my Surface Pro 3. I worked fine connecting to my ASUS 10" Android tablet.
I didn't have a lot time to trouble shoot. I'm thinking I may need to change security from WPA2 to WPA, but I don't recall if it was available. I do like the I was able to not broadcast the SSID; this doesn't work with WiFi Tether Router.
On Sprint. Having trouble with this on the Note Edge. Doesn't seem to be working.
Keep trying to update me and rebooting the phone. It even ended up re-provisioning the phone(back to hands free activation). I think it is ok now...but it took like 5 reboots to get there.
No hotspot though. I tried with Galaxytool as well. Did not work. Caused lots of reboots and reactivation again.
I checked the SqlLite entry change, and it looks like it removed the "dun" I had entered.
hmmmmm
ZenInsight said:
On Sprint. Having trouble with this on the Note Edge. Doesn't seem to be working.
Keep trying to update me and rebooting the phone. It even ended up re-provisioning the phone(back to hands free activation). I think it is ok now...but it took like 5 reboots to get there.
No hotspot though. I tried with Galaxytool as well. Did not work. Caused lots of reboots and reactivation again.
I checked the SqlLite entry change, and it looks like it removed the "dun" I had entered.
hmmmmm
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Is the word "share" anywhere in your plan? If so, you have hotspot included. Sprint is putting a lot of us on these so called share plans. They are cheaper and have hotspot thrown in. The gf upgraded to the s5 in September. Had her plan changed yesterday to a "share" plan $20 a month cheaper and hotspot included. FYI
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Is the word "share" anywhere in your plan? If so, you have hotspot included. Sprint is putting a lot of us on these so called share plans. They are cheaper and have hotspot thrown in. The gf upgraded to the s5 in September. Had her plan changed yesterday to a "share" plan $20 a month cheaper and hotspot included. FYI
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I heard about this. But even though I am in a family "share" plan, it is the unlimited data 1500 minute one. SO, no hotspot for me.
Correct. Paid hotspot add-on isn't unlimited even if you have an unlimited data plan, hotspot has a data allowance. If you use one of the methods mentioned in this thread then hotdpot works and uses data freely but do so at your own risk because it isn't rightfully provisioned on your account.

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