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Buying the EVO

So unless I'm mistaken, the hero came out less than a year ago, which means that anyone who bought a hero doesn't have their yearly upgrade yet. So my question is, how is everyone planning to buy the EVO without paying $500?

I'm fronting the cash. This means I'll be able to use my upgrade for the next sweet phone in another 6-8 months.
Others have multiple phones on family plans and are juggling the phones within their plan to get one.

i dont get upgdrades so im selling the hero for 300. i have a credit card for the rest

Gregalous said:
So unless I'm mistaken, the hero came out less than a year ago, which means that anyone who bought a hero doesn't have their yearly upgrade yet. So my question is, how is everyone planning to buy the EVO without paying $500?
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my parents are going to help me get mine. right now they are on t-mobile and they plan to come to sprint, open a new account get the upgrade price then i'm going to switch my mom out for my hero. me and my old man are planning on rocking the **** out of some evo's. he has the tp2 on t-mobile i'm bringing him to the dark side...

I have to wait until October ... very sad

I have five phones on my plan. I typically use one of my kids upgrades to get a new phone, then give them my old phone. Time to pass the Hero along.

$449 - $80 for hero trade in meaning $369 and no contract renewal

Gregalous said:
So unless I'm mistaken, the hero came out less than a year ago, which means that anyone who bought a hero doesn't have their yearly upgrade yet. So my question is, how is everyone planning to buy the EVO without paying $500?
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That's not true. I'm not really sure why, but I and my wife are both eligible for the full upgrade and we bought Heros on the early release day from best buy. I checked online and I called Sprint just to confirm and they assured me we both qualified.

i'll get mine free from friends.

i have 3 lines that get upgrades all at different times. still deciding wether to get the evo or not though. my main line is eligible for upgrade.

I have an everything data plan with six lines. Go figure.

Avalaunchmods said:
i dont get upgdrades so im selling the hero for 300. i have a credit card for the rest
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Not to be rude but you will never get $300 for a hero even brand new. Maybe $200 if your lucky and i stress lucky. I got to play with an evo and im going to pass on it. Im already seeing alot of people complaining about the phone and slow downs after you install apps. Plus the fact there is a big issue with software & the shipped sd cards that come with the phone. Alot are talking about the possibility of sprint/htc releasing a fix for it but that could also mean they could patch root for those guys as well. So far they seem to have done a pretty solid job patching root on our hero's with the RUU.

markus_del_marko said:
Not to be rude but you will never get $300 for a hero even brand new. Maybe $200 if your lucky and i stress lucky. I got to play with an evo and im going to pass on it. Im already seeing alot of people complaining about the phone and slow downs after you install apps. Plus the fact there is a big issue with software & the shipped sd cards that come with the phone. Alot are talking about the possibility of sprint/htc releasing a fix for it but that could also mean they could patch root for those guys as well. So far they seem to have done a pretty solid job patching root on our hero's with the RUU.
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really no slow downs for me,.............

danknee said:
I'm fronting the cash. This means I'll be able to use my upgrade for the next sweet phone in another 6-8 months.
Others have multiple phones on family plans and are juggling the phones within their plan to get one.
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im really thinking about doing this as well

Sporkman said:
im really thinking about doing this as well
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Ive read some of your posts, you sure seem to have gone through alot of phones in less than a year. Must be nice to have money to burn on a phone that will be outdated in 4 months.

Im buying it from radioshack so hm my dad has his phone on the line and has not changed it since 2008 so ill use his DUH!!!

So yea....I've heard on here that the EVO (without contract) is 450-500.....when if fact it is going to sold for $549 without contract. Trying to keep my Hero, and buy the EVO outright.....but only so many things I can sell on ebay, lol.

markus_del_marko said:
Ive read some of your posts, you sure seem to have gone through alot of phones in less than a year. Must be nice to have money to burn on a phone that will be outdated in 4 months.
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Are you always this pessimistic? People have different situations, and different views on what's worth what. The Evo will become outdated just as EVERY other handset/PC/Laptop/Macbook/etc.... Your phone must be really outdated if you don't want to spend your money on anything that's not going to be top of the line half a year from its release. As for me, I've been through 4 phones in the last year, and will be getting an EVO. And when the next best thing comes out, I'll probably get that as well. Waste of money? Maybe, but you can't take it with you, and I've got it to spend.

I just came back to Sprint from T-Mobile today... going to dump the Hero I bought (this is my second Hero, and this one lags SOOO much it's hardly usable at all) within my 30-day window and grab the Evo which I ordered already.

markus_del_marko said:
Not to be rude but you will never get $300 for a hero even brand new. Maybe $200 if your lucky and i stress lucky. I got to play with an evo and im going to pass on it. Im already seeing alot of people complaining about the phone and slow downs after you install apps. Plus the fact there is a big issue with software & the shipped sd cards that come with the phone. Alot are talking about the possibility of sprint/htc releasing a fix for it but that could also mean they could patch root for those guys as well. So far they seem to have done a pretty solid job patching root on our hero's with the RUU.
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just sold it today for $325.
believe me i had mine set up very well. no lag at all and the people wanted the roms on the sd card. their problem now

G1 stilll worth getting?

I'm considering jumping to T-Mobile here in a few days, as my Sprint contract is ending. A friend of mine is selling his G1 for pretty cheap in good condition. That combined with the Even More Plus plans sounds like a better deal than being stuck in a contract again for 2 years.
I know the phone is crazy old, but it still seems to have great support for roms and such. I have no problems with rooting and flashing at all.
Also, for the people who are with T-Mobile right now, if I start a Even More Plus plan right now, would I be able to "upgrade" to contracted phone down the road, which would prompt me to the more expensive plan, should I ever get a real itch for a Vibrant or things coming out later this year.

I just got mine today lol i love it
My other phone is a tilt 2 tho

Really no point. On CL in my city g1s are 60 used 120ish new. It still has awsome support but remember, its close to 2 years old.... With technology going at the pace its at, think of it like comparing a 2010 mustang against a very well maintained 1985 mustang. Its definately a usable phone and will make you pleased, but won't compare with the advancements in speed, fuel economy, safety, etc...
If you asked this question 7-8 months ago, I would have totally recomended it. Now, not so much.
P.S. download the APN on/off widget or APNdroid to turn off data, so you can qualify for cheaper talk/text only plans. Data is roughly $20-30 more expensive, plus your phone will be functional under wifi. Plus battery lasts longer
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i would say the same as mej,
but totally.. now.. its not much worth. I would totally go for a nexus one if i had to buy a new phone

T-Mobile don't even sell G1s anymore, do they?
Anyways, if you're getting a contract, don't buy an old phone! Get a myTouch slide or wait for the Sidekick Twist.

I would just get the Vibrant right now, because I think if you come into your contract with a used G1 you can't get a new phone till you're up for an upgrade. Besides, the Vibrant(along with most of the other Galaxy S lineup) is top of the line right now. They are benchmarking higher video framerates than a EVO 4G. Plus it has 720p HD video recording, and HD video out so you can play back what you recorded on a hdtv. Also has a accelerometer and gyroscope, giving it a 6-axis g-sensor for epic gaming. Oh yeah, and it's the baddest phone T-Mo has right now, period.

I purchases my G1 2 months ago, best buy ever (paid 100 uk pound,around 130euro then, with 8GB microsd, ...).
Still no phone with a tilt keyboard yet (had a tilt, htc kaiser, much better then htc pro, but the G1 has a nicer touch screen (the tilt was also running android 2.1).

If your stuck on Tmobile, don't want to spend too much, and want a new phone before your contract ends, then go for it
Nowadays with a new contract you can get some pretty good phones for really cheap prices

I've had my G1 since I received it after preordering it. It's an EXCELLENT phone. However, it's age is showing. There are some things it simply cannot do and many things it cannot do well.
If you're going the as-cheap-as-I-can route in the short-term, a G1 may do the trick (And, if it were January of 2009, I'd say get the G1.). But, as it's been said before, if you're going to be locked into a 2 year contract, you'll really want to get hardware with enough power to last you those two years and not leave you wanting more.
Personally, if I were buying right now, it would either be a NexusOne or a Vibrant. Something with enough processing power and RAM for Android 2.2+
Good luck!

I got my G1 this past January... and while I don't regret it, there's no chance I'd buy this phone now. Every day I wish this thing had a Snapdragon in it. If you're really worried about contracts go with an unlocked phone for more money upfront - at least with T-Mobile, the plan will be cheaper, so it'll even out.
Again, the G1 is a great phone and I love the design/form factor, but for this day and age it's just not fast enough.

I don't believe you'll be able to take an Even More Plus plan and then go to an Even More plan right off the back, at least not with your same number...but, If you sign up for google Voice at the same time as getting the g1, give out that number to everyone as your new number, when you upgrade your to a contract(if you do), that GV number will still be the same and you'll just have to change the number under your GV settings.
Would I buy a G1 right now? If it was 0-50, maybe 75 with an 8 gig sd card. We've got 2.2 running on our phones now as a daily driver. it makes/receives calls, what more you need from a phone?

Zoltair Wright said:
the G1 is a great phone and I love the design/form factor, but for this day and age it's just not fast enough.
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^^ this i love my dream and i've had it less than a year but would trade up 2 a droid in a heartbeat (i still need that real keyboard even if the droids is crap)

Zardos66 said:
I'm considering jumping to T-Mobile here in a few days, as my Sprint contract is ending.
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I do have one question... why not stay with Sprint? Their plans are competitively priced with T-Mobile, and they have excellent Android devices. The Epic 4G is due out soon, which should be an amazing phone by anyone's standards. And it will have a hardware keyboard, like the G1...
If price is the most important, don't go with T-Mobile. Get an unlocked T-Mobile phone and take it over to Simple Mobile at mysimplemobile.com. They use the same 3G bands as T-Mobile but you get unlimited talk, text, and internet for a flat $60/month.

t140568 said:
I've had my G1 since I received it after preordering it. It's an EXCELLENT phone. However, it's age is showing. There are some things it simply cannot do and many things it cannot do well.
If you're going the as-cheap-as-I-can route in the short-term, a G1 may do the trick (And, if it were January of 2009, I'd say get the G1.). But, as it's been said before, if you're going to be locked into a 2 year contract, you'll really want to get hardware with enough power to last you those two years and not leave you wanting more.
Personally, if I were buying right now, it would either be a NexusOne or a Vibrant. Something with enough processing power and RAM for Android 2.2+
Good luck!
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He is not interested in a contract. He wants to get a used G1.

Well I Just bought one to hold me off until the "Project Emerald" phone comes out. It's better than using a non android phone. I think that using it as a temporary phone it will do the job.

Still an awsome phone but :] mTS 2 for 1 lol

If you don't care about having a fast phone, go for it. I just went from g1 to vibrant, and the vibrant is everything I wanted the g1 to be. The g1 is gonna give you a taste of what android can do, so you may end up wanting something better.
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well ive gone from a blackstone (WM) to a G1 and I love it. If you get the right rom it isnt slow and android is just great I love it....also devs are still making stuff for it all the time its great....

May 5th Samsung/AT&T Press Conference, Not For SGS2

If you didn't already hear, the press conference between AT&T and Samsung was not for the Galaxy S II. It was of course for the Infuse 4G. This will be the first of AT&T phones to be capable of up to 21Mbps, assuming you are in an area where the cell towers have fiber backhaul in place.
That being said, there is another press conference from Samsung(and Samsung alone, no carriers mentioned with it) that will take place May 24th. This is what people are presuming to be the Galaxy S II, and takes place exactly 11 months after the press conference for the original Galaxy S line.
Now, my question to all of you is, if you are in serious need of a phone, what do you think is the best choice to do in this situation? I have all lines available for an upgrade, starting tomorrow, as this will mark 11 months after, which makes me within 30 days of my 1 year mark of this contract, and the guy at the AT&T store said I can do the upgrade if I am within 30 days(I said that confusingly, but it made sense in my head, so I hope you all understood).
I am sitting here with a Motorola Backflip, the slowest and worst phone you could ever want. Okay not true, but I think I'd rather have a simpler phone with its own random OS that runs smoothly on it since it would be designed for it. So I want to get a new phone ASAP, but I really would like the Galaxy S II. Should I just go ahead and get the Infuse 4G since I am desperate? Or do you think it would be worth waiting for Galaxy S II? I have multiple upgrades, so I may just get the Infuse for now and still get Galaxy S II when it comes, but at that point I would have to pay for it. If I just wait for Galaxy S II, I won't have to pay, but I'd be without a good phone for a while, and it's already been long enough. I think that I may end up being fine with the Infuse, but the GSII seems so nice, I'm gonna want it anyway.
I'm kinda trying to save up my money, I get a couple hundred every two weeks, but I end up spending a lot, and a phone would cost me a whole paycheck.
Anyways what do you guys think on this whole situation, whether it's about the May 24th press conference, or what phone I should get, or whatever.

The infuse will be an afterthought. It runs 2.2... it'll have little dev support and tweaking/upgradability will be much less likely. Old hardware as well except for the screen and 4.5" is just too big imo.
Wait for the SGS2

if you look at the at&t facebook page..the 24th showcase may be for tablets..not sure if its for sg2. i have it marked down tho..but i would try out the infuse. you said you have multiple upgrades..so why not.

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if you look at the at&t facebook page..the 24th showcase may be for tablets..not sure if its for sg2. i have it marked down tho..but i would try out the infuse. you said you have multiple upgrades..so why not.
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Yeah it's just if I wanna have to spend money or not cause if I just choose one then I personally don't have to pay anything.

See which upgrade on AT&T can be sold on ebay for max $ and use that $ to buy the SGS2.

Well if I buy one, then switch to another later, I will have to give the other one up for another person in my family.

jackleung said:
See which upgrade on AT&T can be sold on ebay for max $ and use that $ to buy the SGS2.
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That's exactly what I did. I bought an Atrix for $99 from Best Buy and sold it on eBay for $470. I used the profit to help me pay for my new S2!
Oh, and as a bonus since I had the unlimited data plan with my old 3GS the Best Buy rep called AT&T and asked them to keep me grandfathered on that plan. I thought that was pretty cool.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/06/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-hands-on-2/
it might not be all doom and gloom. BGR got a gs2 to test out last night at the event

boondoc said:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/06/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-hands-on-2/
it might not be all doom and gloom. BGR got a gs2 to test out last night at the event
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interesting
but I think they were just given a UK model to play with - in the limited shots I saw no ATT icons anywhere, no logo on the front and no physical customization to the design - all things AT&T LOVES to do and DOES in most cases

i'm starting to think you get off on being a negative nellie

boondoc said:
i'm starting to think you get off on being a negative nellie
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me? that is egregious, preposterous and outrageous. hope you meant someone else.

As to May 24 samsung announcement,I think that gs2,will be the U.S debut,and tmo gets our phone,if look through some forums the gs2 was be coming to tmo 1st anyway,ATT GOT INFUSE,WE GET THE BIG BANG.
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Actually the whole GS2 on T-mobile USA rumor started when t-mo accidentally responded to a tweet about the GS2 and they confused it for the GS 4G... they corrected themselves but the rumors had already spread.. I would love this device on T-mobile or Sprint.. but Sprint is just getting around to releasing the Nexus S 4G... not a bad phone but when it wasn't cutting edge when the original was announced last winter..

Free Epic with 2 year activate OR upgrade @ Best Buy

www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+Epic...int)/1168955.p?skuId=1168955&id=1218230592078
pretty awesome deal, also if you're a premier member call them they will waive activation and give you credits

This is what they do to get rid of any stock units. Eol for Epic production it seems.
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someone was just talking about it's eol for the epic.. so what's the replacement phone? g2x or something? because as far as i know, im going back to htc.. only because of the dev community, DEF NOT FOR 3D. anyone have a clue??

lol you also get a free lady gaga cd with a 2 year activation

lol figures

ya clearly screw lady gaga but for free? Im all about that. I already have it but def getting it for a family member since we are about to have gingerbread etc seems like the phones about to hit its sweet spot honestly.

Figures, and I just upgraded my phone to an Epic but payed $90 though Amazon. Wonder if I am able to return it and get my upgrade credit back to buy it though Bestbuy. Oddly enough, I went to bestbuy first to buy it to see if they would price match, but was a no go.

Well, that's definitely a kick in the no-nos. Paid $230 7 months ago and now it's free. smdh.

Bought mine back in january, its ok, my next purchase will be a tablet, so ill get all the new feature with that.

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This is what they do to get rid of any stock units. Eol for Epic production it seems.
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I suppose its possible. Looks like they are featuring an Android phone from each of the big 3. AT&T HTC Inspire "4G", free also. Do you think its at end of life? Just asking because I have no idea what it usually sells for. Also, Verizon Fascinate is free.

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I suppose its possible. Looks like they are featuring an Android phone from each of the big 3. AT&T HTC Inspire "4G", free also. Do you think its at end of life? Just asking because I have no idea what it usually sells for. Also, Verizon Fascinate is free.
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It's far from end of life. It will stay being their best keyboard phone as the galaxy 2 wont have one. I mean it really depends what you want out of your phone but for free...this hardware will still be considered very solid and able to perform for the next couple years

sceptor said:
It's far from end of life. It will stay being their best keyboard phone as the galaxy 2 wont have one. I mean it really depends what you want out of your phone but for free...this hardware will still be considered very solid and able to perform for the next couple years
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I agree. What I should have opened with is "I suppose anything is possible". Its what I really meant.
Oh, and thanks for your post. One daughter has a Hero and another has a Pixi and they both are in need of a new phone. My son and I have Epics and we love them. For me though, I have found Swype so easy I hardly ever open my keyboard.

sceptor said:
It's far from end of life. It will stay being their best keyboard phone as the galaxy 2 wont have one. I mean it really depends what you want out of your phone but for free...this hardware will still be considered very solid and able to perform for the next couple years
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I agree. What I should have opened with is "I suppose anything is possible". Its what I really meant.
Oh, and thanks for your post. One daughter has a Hero and another has a Pixi and they both are in need of a new phone. My son and I have Epics and we love them. For me though, I have found Swype so easy I hardly ever open my keyboard.

sceptor said:
www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+Epic...int)/1168955.p?skuId=1168955&id=1218230592078
pretty awesome deal, also if you're a premier member call them they will waive activation and give you credits
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What do you mean waive activation. Can't I just go online and activate myself? Also, what do you mean "give you credits".
Thanks again!

running_the_dream said:
Well, that's definitely a kick in the no-nos. Paid $230 7 months ago and now it's free. smdh.
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It's the nature of consumer electronics these days; fast depreciation. It's entire possible that this phone could go Eol in a few months. It is no longer the newest and fastest device on the block.
I wonder if there will be an "Epic 2", or at least a Galaxy S2 with a keyboard. Samsung seems to be releasing a new Galaxy S every year. I imagine we will have more information around late summer.
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Crazy Deal! I say you go for the deal that gives you the free Lady Gaga CD.

I'm so pissed that I bought this phone a week ago. Now I have to waste $35 for a gay ass restocking fee. I'm never upgrading my phone through Sprint store again. I'll just do it online now since it doesn't have this gay fee.

Evo 3d
$199
on contract!!!

I think my father's actually planning on getting an Epic in the next week or two. He is impressed with mine and frustrated beyond belief with his old blackberry. His contract is up so at zero cost I expect him to be happy with this. And honestly, a 1ghz phone that will be running GB in the near future w/ a 4in screen and a 5-row keyboard. There's very little that compares.

nice deal, i'll pick one up

T-mobile Galaxy S2 hands-on impressions from a Vibrant user

I went to T-mobile and did a hands-on. The reviews from phone reviewers didn't quite answer my questions as a vibrant user. So I hope this helps. Plus I don't own it so I won't be justifying buyers remorse.
Bottom Line: Not worth the upgrade from a Vibrant. Especially off-contract. If you are locked into T-mobile and are upgrading anyway, it is worth it. All others should wait to see what the deal with the new Nexus phone is. You will NOT be upset with your purchase regardless though.
Screen: Huge and beautiful. Since it's not pentile, but it is larger than the Vibrant, it looks very similar. The GS2 might be SLIGHTLY less pixelated, but its not the crisp sharpness that I was hoping for.
Build Quality: What the Vibrant should've been. It's the best looking GS2 and it feels very solid. The gunmetal band is plastic as far as I can tell. It feels more solid than the Vibrant, but not nearly as much as an HTC phone. this should not be an issue whatsoever. And boy is it pretty.
Data: I live in a 42Mbps area and i speedtested about 4Mbps. The T-mobile rep said they got 8 yesterday. My vibrant got 2.6. YMMV obviously.
Speed: Quick, but with a live wallpaper and as low as 3 widgets, it started to drop in framerate. However it did NOT lag. things still load and run quickly, but not necessarily at an ideal framerate. especially the homescreen. I benched a 3200 quadrant after a memory clear. it wasn't loaded with smartbench unfortunately.
GPS: Didn't get a lock indoors of a mall (top story). 1400 meters was the closest. But I didn't get to test it outside. Grr.
Didn't get to test: Game performance, Codec Support, Sound Quality or Loudness, Camera, Camcorder, FFC.

I got my SGSII today and love it so far. The screen is beautiful, the gps worked out of the box and its fast as hell.
We'll see how I feel in a few days......
Now we just need some custom rom love
Edit: i get 13mbit/2mbit at work in minneapolis on 4G
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I got my SGSII tmo too. i'm loving it XD
everything works perfectly!

im gonna have to say im loving it too!

Guys if you have both vibrant and the new SG2, please check and reply if the batteries are interchangable.

i dont think the batteries are...this one has 4 gold pins and apparently NFC built into the battery (?)...plus it looks taller.
Since I loved the Vibrant, I'm sure I'll love this phone and it's extraordinarily enticing. But to those who signed a contract with the Vibrant, 2 years isn't up yet and they would have to pay full for the phone. I didn't sign one and I paid-in-full for my Vibrant and to get the GS2, I would have to spend $530. For that, I could buy a PS3 AND Xbox 360, or a fairly nice HDTV or desktop computer, for what I consider an incremental upgrade for a phone.
It's not that I think the phone isn't worth it, its just not worth it as an upgrade from the Vibrant.

i managed to drop my vibrant in the washing machine and am looking to get a new phone starting a new 2 year contract. they didn't have the sgs2 in the store i was at today unfortunately, but i did get to mess around with the htc amaze. it seemed to be pretty dope from what i could tell from messing with it for like 5 minutes, would you guys pick the sgs 2 over the amaze? i'm a little hesitant to buy another samsung product based on the way they handled the whole gps issue on the vibrant, so i'm kind stuck here. it's either one of those or wait until they announce more details on the nexus prime... but i dont even know if that phone will come to tmobile :/

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i managed to drop my vibrant in the washing machine and am looking to get a new phone starting a new 2 year contract. they didn't have the sgs2 in the store i was at today unfortunately, but i did get to mess around with the htc amaze. it seemed to be pretty dope from what i could tell from messing with it for like 5 minutes, would you guys pick the sgs 2 over the amaze? i'm a little hesitant to buy another samsung product based on the way they handled the whole gps issue on the vibrant, so i'm kind stuck here. it's either one of those or wait until they announce more details on the nexus prime... but i dont even know if that phone will come to tmobile :/
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sit back for the prime.i think it's going to be called the nexus 3.But I'm not sure, a friend told me that.
simply ginger

trustinhate said:
i managed to drop my vibrant in the washing machine and am looking to get a new phone starting a new 2 year contract. they didn't have the sgs2 in the store i was at today unfortunately, but i did get to mess around with the htc amaze. it seemed to be pretty dope from what i could tell from messing with it for like 5 minutes, would you guys pick the sgs 2 over the amaze? i'm a little hesitant to buy another samsung product based on the way they handled the whole gps issue on the vibrant, so i'm kind stuck here. it's either one of those or wait until they announce more details on the nexus prime... but i dont even know if that phone will come to tmobile :/
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luckily there are no known issues with the SGS2 like there were for the Vibrant. Even in early reviews, the Vibrant was criticized for lag and bad GPS. It isn't the case with the SGS2, so you are good to go on that front.
As for the Nexus. It may not directly be associated with T-Mobile. However, at this point according to rumors, there should be a GSM version and it should support T-Mobile's 3G band. So the likely scenario is that you would buy the phone unlocked and then get your T-mobile account.
The issue with that is a full price phone and a full price plan. I urge everyone who wants to use T-mobile to take advantage of their off-contract pricing. That math has been done on this dozens of times, but if you buy a phone at full price and join one of their off contract plans, in two years, you will have saved hundreds of dollars. You even have the option to spread the fincancing of a [T-mobile] phone over the months. I'm sure with the nexus that you can finance with the retailer you purchased it from as well.

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luckily there are no known issues with the SGS2 like there were for the Vibrant. Even in early reviews, the Vibrant was criticized for lag and bad GPS. It isn't the case with the SGS2, so you are good to go on that front.
As for the Nexus. It may not directly be associated with T-Mobile. However, at this point according to rumors, there should be a GSM version and it should support T-Mobile's 3G band. So the likely scenario is that you would buy the phone unlocked and then get your T-mobile account.
The issue with that is a full price phone and a full price plan. I urge everyone who wants to use T-mobile to take advantage of their off-contract pricing. That math has been done on this dozens of times, but if you buy a phone at full price and join one of their off contract plans, in two years, you will have saved hundreds of dollars. You even have the option to spread the fincancing of a [T-mobile] phone over the months. I'm sure with the nexus that you can finance with the retailer you purchased it from as well.
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I just asked and checked a couple weeks ago, the previously called "loyalty program", which lets you split the hardware payment over 20 installments, is no longer available to non-contract-binding customers. Basically if you are not on contract ATM and want to utilize that financing option, you have to sign a new 2-year contract. Sux, right?
here's the link:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1674

LHBC said:
I just asked and checked a couple weeks ago, the previously called "loyalty program", which lets you split the hardware payment over 20 installments, is no longer available to non-contract-binding customers. Basically if you are not on contract ATM and want to utilize that financing option, you have to sign a new 2-year contract. Sux, right?
here's the link:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1674
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i can confirm this as well...