With my older phone, if I have a GPRS data connection, incoming voice calls will be rejected (busy). I was told it is the same with all phones.
Can HD2 make or accept a voice phone call when it has a GRPS connection? Or an HSPA connect? With the My Location, Weather, and Direct Push, I can neve tell when my phone has a data connection. Does it mean I may be missing calls all the time?
I have no problems with my telco. They will "downgrade" my data connection whenever a call is coming thru.
Nope - works fine for me. Will be using MSN and then a phone call will over ride it
alex fung said:
I was told it is the same with all phones.
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Somebody didn't know what they were talking about! You've been misinformed mate
alex fung said:
With my older phone, if I have a GPRS data connection, incoming voice calls will be rejected (busy). I was told it is the same with all phones.
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what phone would do that? You wouldn't happen to be with Verizon before, would you? My gf has a blackberry on verizon and whenever she's using the net incoming call would be rejected. I don't know any gsm phone would do that. I've had 5-6 GSM phones and they would allow incoming call and suspend your current web until the call ended.
Well, voice calls are made on a certain frequencies and data connections are made on others.
Ex: in my country the data connection is on the 1900/2100 freq, while the voice calls are on the rest.
So it should never be a problem. I believe its also the ability of the phone to use different freq for different tasks.
Thanks. I can now use the data connections without worry
Why not you try yourself. COnnect to data constantly and make a call to your number. What will happen...?
3G and GPRS/Edge won't block calls. But you can still use old fashion data-call. While I doubt any provider would provide data connectivity this way, I can't rule it out.
The T-mobile tab will allow you to use voice +EDGE or 3g/H data (US version, some report complete functionality in China and Isreal). The current work-around is the Roto Modem Switcher solution (brilliant!)
If you stay on the 3g/H modem, some have suggested google voice, voip, etc.
What can you do if using a voip service so someone receiving a call can see your cell number? What are your solutions so you don't have to reflash your tab, or switch sim cards between phone and tab?
I tried the skype app from the market, but no-go. Skype uses wifi in the US.
Fring works, but your caller won't see your number. They see 111 as your caller id, so they can't call back.
Google voice shows your google number not your cell number.
ooVoo wasn't any better.
What add on service will show your cell number, and allow people to return the call? And do this on 3g/h?
rangercaptain said:
I tried the skype app from the market, but no-go. Skype uses wifi in the US.
Fring works, but your caller won't see your number. They see 111 as your caller id, so they can't call back.
Google voice shows your google number not your cell number.
ooVoo wasn't any better.
What add on service will show your cell number, and allow people to return the call? And do this on 3g/h?
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try the attached, this version will work both wifi & 3g, but no video. i've been using it to receive/make calls using tmobile 3g.
xpgroup said:
try the attached, this version will work both wifi & 3g, but no video. i've been using it to receive/make calls using tmobile 3g.
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here's the file
Thank you. I will get after this and let you know how it works. I found something else in the market called Vopium. It works pretty good.
Something good to know..but this option is to get a new mobile number so not sure if you want to do so
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/01/google-voice-porting/
I've got a AT&T flavor Nexus S that I purchased a pre-paid SIM for. I've got unlimited voice, text and paid extra for a data plan since it's a smartphone.
When I try to make an outgoing call using Google Voice it states, "Cannot complete your call, please try again." No matter how many times I try it will not work. If I dial with the number attached to the pre-paid SIM (which none of my contacts knows) it will work.
Any ideas?
User error, while receiving calls is not a problem, in order to make outgoing calls using Google Voice you need to set it up online to forward to the prepaid #.
So, yeah, I used 5GB and got throttled to 2G speeds by TMO. I'm not really complaining since this wasn't a normal month for me. What does suck, however, is that now when I get a Google Voice call, it keeps cutting out during the conversation which is really, really bad. This is because the 2G connection simply doesn't provide enough bandwidth for GV to work well. (When I'm not on wifi and using the throttled 2G.) I know there isn't really anything to be done about it, just pointing out that it sucks.
Word ^^^^
You'll just have to wait until you get a computer, then you can listen to it.
c00ller said:
You'll just have to wait until you get a computer, then you can listen to it.
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He's talking about phone calls over google voice it looks like, not voice mails. This would most likely be the reason he hit the limit.
Damn! I'm soooo tempted to chuck t-mobile and go with sprint's truly unlimited plan. Its just way to much money though! $99.99 (before tax) + $10 4g speed upgrade - man that can break me!
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lawalty said:
Damn! I'm soooo tempted to chuck t-mobile and go with sprint's truly unlimited plan. Its just way to much money though! $99.99 (before tax) + $10 4g speed upgrade - man that can break me!
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Its only that expensive if you want unlimited minutes to land lines. Their base plan is $70 and has unlimited calling to any mobile (not just sprint, but any mobile phone) along with unlimited text and data. Its actually a really good deal, but CDMA/WiMax sucks so bad... I really don't think I can pay more for worse speed and locked devices lol.
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He's talking about phone calls over google voice it looks like, not voice mails. This would most likely be the reason he hit the limit.
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Oops, my bad! That is certainly a bummer.
Yep, I'm talking about voice calls through Google Voice. The thing is - I'd be willing to pay like $30 to get another 5GB of high-speed data until my next billing cycle, but there is no way to do that, I'm just stuck! (The data this month was definitely an exception - I'm typically around more like 2.5 GB for the month.) The funny thing is (as Lawalty mentioned) that I've been watching Sprint closely and am seriously considering switching to them in 2012. I guess I'm not the only one.
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Damn! I'm soooo tempted to chuck t-mobile and go with sprint's truly unlimited plan. Its just way to much money though! $99.99 (before tax) + $10 4g speed upgrade - man that can break me!
Its only that expensive if you want unlimited minutes to land lines. Their base plan is $70 and has unlimited calling to any mobile (not just sprint, but any mobile phone) along with unlimited text and data. Its actually a really good deal, but CDMA/WiMax sucks so bad... I really don't think I can pay more for worse speed and locked devices lol.
I haven't ever gone over my 5 GB cap, but i'm looking to get away from T-Mo bcause of their impending merger with the Evil Empire. I originally left AT&T and took my iPhone (original 2G) to T-Mo cause I was fed up with AT&T's crappy coverage and high fees, so I certainly don't want to give them any more of my monies.
I just haven't found a plan similar to T-Mo's Flexpay on any other carrier. I don't want a 2 year contract. That was the thing I loved most about T-Mo, I never had a contract with them, and sometimes I skip whole months without paying for service, but I still get to keep the same plan. Plus, they pro-rate the cost of my monthly bill.
If I could find something like that with Sprint or Verizon, then I would certainly switch.
I had flexpay and it was a pita! Eventually had to make a new account just to upgrade! Now they think I've only been with then a year when I've been with them 7! Oh well.
You must be using GV + SIP to make VOIP calls instead of 'regular' use of GV, which uses a cellphone connection and so your minutes. I've used GV on T-Mobile for business for years, thousands of minutes a month, and with negligible impact on data usage. GV only uses data to login to my GV account and to download the voicemail audio files.
T-Mo's unlimted voice, text, and data (1st 2GB unthrottled, plenty for me) for $50/mo is by far the best deal available.
From HTC G2 with xda premium.
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You must be using GV + SIP to make VOIP calls instead of 'regular' use of GV, which uses a cellphone connection and so your minutes. I've used GV on T-Mobile for business for years, thousands of minutes a month, and with negligible impact on data usage. GV only uses data to login to my GV account and to download the voicemail audio files.
T-Mo's unlimted voice, text, and data (1st 2GB unthrottled, plenty for me) for $50/mo is by far the best deal available.
From HTC G2 with xda premium.
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I should have clarified that - my data usage was not due to GV, I went over the 5GB limit due to tethering during an internet outage at home for a couple of days. GV seems to still use some type of control connection or something that causes the calls to cut out frequently when you are on a really slow connection. (My speed tests while I've been throttled have always shown less than 64kbps.) I'm not sure how it works, I just know that GV worked great for me until I got throttled.
Makes no sense. I often make perfectly good GV calls out in the boonies with no data connection at all. GV uses a standard cellphone connection like any other call. Your data speed has zero to do with call quality.
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Makes no sense. I often make perfectly good GV calls out in the boonies with no data connection at all. GV uses a standard cellphone connection like any other call. Your data speed has zero to do with call quality.
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I'm not sure about that, The Google Voice troubleshooter states:
"If you’re using a mobile device, ensure that your carrier network connection is strong."
Which would indicate to me that you do need a data connection. I've only noticed this on incoming calls, so maybe outgoing calls are different. In any case, later tonight I'll run some bandwidth tests on my router at home and make some GV calls while on wifi to see how much bw it looks like it is using (if any.)
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I'm not sure about that, The Google Voice troubleshooter states:
"If you’re using a mobile device, ensure that your carrier network connection is strong."
Which would indicate to me that you do need a data connection. I've only noticed this on incoming calls, so maybe outgoing calls are different. In any case, later tonight I'll run some bandwidth tests on my router at home and make some GV calls while on wifi to see how much bw it looks like it is using (if any.)
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Crashdamage is correct.
Google Voice only uses data for two things:
1) text messaging
2) whenever you place an outgoing call, it will ask the Google servers what "Voice" number it should call (instead of whoever's regular number) so that it will display as your Google Voice number on the receiving end's caller ID. If your GV app is updated, it should only have to do this once per person. Once it has that number, it places a call to it through your regular cell phone connection.
Incoming calls don't use the data at all; Google's servers will receive a call placed to your Google Voice number, and they will reroute the call instead through your cell phone connection to your cell number.
The clarity problems you're having have to do with your service provider and the signal strength you have at any given location. It has nothing to do with your throttled data connections. I only get 2G service where I live, and I've never had any problems using Google Voice for making calls.
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Crashdamage is correct.
Google Voice only uses data for two things:
1) text messaging
2) whenever you place an outgoing call, it will ask the Google servers what "Voice" number it should call (instead of whoever's regular number) so that it will display as your Google Voice number on the receiving end's caller ID. If your GV app is updated, it should only have to do this once per person. Once it has that number, it places a call to it through your regular cell phone connection.
Incoming calls don't use the data at all; Google's servers will receive a call placed to your Google Voice number, and they will reroute the call instead through your cell phone connection to your cell number.
The clarity problems you're having have to do with your service provider and the signal strength you have at any given location.
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OK, that's good to know, thanks. It's just weird that someone can call me on GV and it is all cut-out sounding, then call me right back on the regular number and it is fine (same location.)
Possible (but unlikely) GV itself is having some kinda technical problem cleanly routing your calls. But your data connection has nothing to do with it. Also could be a problem with the service of the person calling you. Make sure the issue exists with all GV calls, not just from certain people using your GV number.
From HTC G2 with xda premium.
Yep, ran a few tests while connected to wifi - bandwidth graph on tomato showed no real bandwidth usage during the call. Will have to figure out if my problem lies elsewhere.
Hey guys! I'm hoping someone here can help me. I just recently got a Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus (Verizon) and it will only connect to 4G LTE (data only) I can't access my SIM card's phone number or messaging services. Which is kind of fine because I use Google Voice for my calls and messages, but my banking app won't use my GV number for verification reasons and fraud alerts.
I'm on Straight Talk Verizon towers, and the phone will only connect to data. I can't use the phone number that is assigned to me through S.T. which normally I wouldn't care because like I said I use Google Voice for everything. But my banking app will not recognize my Google Voice number to verify things, so that's what I use the number assigned to me from Straight Talk for. This phone has had all kinds of connectivity issues since I got it.
It says "searching for service" while connected to 4G LTE. All I get is data. No phone calls or text messages from the number assigned to me through Straight Talk. If I pop my SIM card into a different phone, I don't have these issues. I can access that phone number, calls & messaging as well.
I'm hoping someone here can help me.
Thank You!