http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/motorola-ready-to-make-sweet-love-to-rom-devs-and-rooters/
Looks like future Motorola devices might be better off than the DroidX/2/Milestone.
If you are too lazy to read, Moto stated:
"We are working closely with our partners to offer a bootloader solution that will enable developers to use our devices as a development platform while still protecting our users' interests. More detailed information will follow as we get closer to availability."
Not sure how nobody has posted this yet...
EDIT: Looks like this was mentioned in this thread already. Anyway we'll see what happens.
They have posted it all over the internetz and the general consensus is that Moto will just keep locking the bootloaders.
We can always hope though...
Mortalys77 said:
They have posted it all over the internetz and the general consensus is that Moto will just keep locking the bootloaders.
We can always hope though...
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Moto did not have to come out and say this.
What is your reasoning that they will just continue to keep it locked if they outright say they aren't?
and in their statement, who would their "partners" be? The carriers?
Hmmmm interesting
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Yes you are right I know it has been posted many places. I was curious to hear the thoughts of people in this forum in particular some devs. I trust XDA forum opinion above others .
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What is your reasoning that they will just continue to keep it locked if they outright say they aren't?
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Because they won't unlock it now, and this was just of a damage control thing.
They won't unlock the bootloader forbthis phone likely ever, but it is starting to look like they are going to work for their phones being development friendly judging by their recent response on facebook or twitter. I can't find it now, but they did state that they would like their phones to be more dev friendly
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Actually, the link is in the first post(OP). that is at least promising
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sciulli999 said:
Moto did not have to come out and say this.
What is your reasoning that they will just continue to keep it locked if they outright say they aren't?
and in their statement, who would their "partners" be? The carriers?
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They definitely had a reason to come out and say this. It was a direct response to: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/01/1...er-to-buy-elsewhere-if-they-want-custom-roms/
I don't get the feeling that their willing to unlock any of their current phones. Someone would've said something by now if they were really working with devs.
What's most likely is they will phones through google unlocked but not discounted by the cell companies.
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Protecting users? That line makes it sound like you would have to go out of your way to unlock the bootloaders. Either by giving up warranty rights beforehand, or buying a "development model", at unsubsidized pricing. Either way is reasonable, but as an average joe, I like warranties and cheap/er phones lol
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Well rumor mill is there will be an optional ota that will unlock bootloader. Your warrenty will be void BC it shows on your esn number.
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Well rumor mill is there will be an optional ota that will unlock bootloader. Your warrenty will be void BC it shows on your esn number.
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Wow, this would be very cool, where are you seeing rumors like this?
If it comes out as an OTA then I'll just wait for the devs to get it and break it apart so we can finally have an unlocked bootloader without having to SBF to get the OTA.
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Just a friend. Its an idea there tossing around you wont need to sbf as its optional and only unlocking bootloader which will show on your esn and void your warranty
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honestly I would take the loss of my manufacturer warranty as long as I still have assurian for lost or damaged I'm cool just give me an unlock option and I would stay with motorola
Im not sure if it voids your whole warrenty. I will have to get back on that as it seems this isn't the set plan yet.
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Im not sure if it voids your whole warrenty. I will have to get back on that as it seems this isn't the set plan yet.
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Where are you getting your information?
My neighbor is on the team that develops for moto
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Alot of you guys have a good point. However. Papi92 is a liar. Show some proof and ill give u the benefit of the doubt. Till then you are just gonna be a liar in my book
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ksizzle9 said:
Alot of you guys have a good point. However. Papi92 is a liar. Show some proof and ill give u the benefit of the doubt. Till then you are just gonna be a liar in my book
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Do not listen to this man! Look at his post count! "Posts: 666"
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If the dx bootloader is unlocked is safe to assume that the d2 is not far behind, or is that just wishful thinking?
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I bet that D2 development will pick up within the next couple days with the keys being released
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Possibly some of the best news to wake up to!
Edit: Balls.
Right now none of the bootloaders have been unlocked. Also there is no confirmation that the private keys released are legitimate. I'm not implying they are not, but don't get your hopes up just yet.
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The guy that said he had cracked them was just trolling...
This hoax did have some good come out of it though. If progress ever is made, everyone will have a better idea on what to do afterwards. It seems to have just motivated the devs a little, even though they were trolled hardcore.
what if moto is waiting for unlocked bootloader to give out hsupa update? Think about to what if they made the bootloader locked so people could unlock the bootloader and they could use a new encryption with the update to relock it. This would be smart because if we unlock the bootloader and they make an update we wouldnt update it would be no point because we could get what ever we want with the phone through roms. but if the bootloader is broken and then they come out with HSPUA after then we would still need to update just because. Maybe devs know thhat and thats why they want to keep bootloader info under wraps and they assassinate anyone who leaks bootloader info because its a chess game between them and moto.... just a fun Easter conspiracy theory
Well.... i've been assuming for quite some time now that maybe it's actually AT&T that has their hands in Motorola keeping the bootloader locked due to AT&T supposedly wanting to test their HSUPA network to make sure it will be able to handle the massive influx of smartphones before they enable it on the newer phones. That would kinda make sense since if the bootloader were unlocked, people could just find a way around it and use HSUPA anyway. Whether or not that's the case is anyone's guess.
Very good theory you got there... :d
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Well.... i've been assuming for quite some time now that maybe it's actually AT&T that has their hands in Motorola keeping the bootloader locked due to AT&T supposedly wanting to test their HSUPA network to make sure it will be able to handle the massive influx of smartphones before they enable it on the newer phones. That would kinda make sense since if the bootloader were unlocked, people could just find a way around it and use HSUPA anyway. Whether or not that's the case is anyone's guess.
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the inspire gotta unlocked bootloader and no HSUPA right?
frankiedizzle87 said:
the inspire gotta unlocked bootloader and no HSUPA right?
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Ya they do, just have to flash the Telus radio.
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We are a minority among the majority of atrix users. Many users are just people who buy it for use as a phone and not to mod it.
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Garrenteed they aren't, once we crack this bootloader we can enable faster upload speeds ourselves.
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Im att telus doesn't work on att right
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sifon187 said:
We are a minority among the majority of atrix users. Many users are just people who buy it for use as a phone and not to mod it.
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True. But last I heard the phone isn't selling well D: .. No?
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i don't think the unlock BL can be fixed by moto.. as it's more like a hardware basis job which moto's android software update can not do anything to the bootloader.
for sure there will be more problems come out after the BL is unlocked,like: moto block the way of unlock in future updates; how to find the drivers for future android that moto will not provide.
but first of all,, bootloader need to be unlock and we can worry about all other things later.
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True. But last I heard the phone isn't selling well D: .. No?
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this is because the atrix has been released only in 2 or 3 countries.
this thread makes me chuckle. wait for us to crack it and then patch it? Ha. I mean sure that works for root, but the bootloader? The DroidX has been on sale since July of last year, and that hasn't been cracked, what makes you think we'll have more luck with this phone?
plus it was AT&T taht promised the HSUPA update. If motoroloa was holding it off for their own personal reasons that would have to piss off AT&T since it means more bad press for them.
If the bootloader was cracked and hsupa was out dont u think the devs would be able to package everything together. And what idiot would update their unlocked phone knowing that the bootloader was going to be relocked. I agree with cegna....the dx has been out for sometime and the bootloader has not been cracked. There are prob more dx devs than atrix devs working on it also. If moto hadnt done a good job putting this phone together it def would have gone back already
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having a locked bootloader gives me anxiety :|
So what the OP is saying is that we are never going to get an hsupa update. See what I did there?
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If the bootloader was cracked and hsupa was out dont u think the devs would be able to package everything together. And what idiot would update their unlocked phone knowing that the bootloader was going to be relocked. I agree with cegna....the dx has been out for sometime and the bootloader has not been cracked. There are prob more dx devs than atrix devs working on it also. If moto hadnt done a good job putting this phone together it def would have gone back already
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Uuuuuum the atrix has the best damn few devs in the world!!!!! That's why. Does the Droid x have other stuff we have like pseudo Rome?
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So what the OP is saying is that we are never going to get an hsupa update. See what I did there?
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Yep I see what u did. Slander.
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frankiedizzle87 said:
Uuuuuum the atrix has the best damn few devs in the world!!!!! That's why. Does the Droid x have other stuff we have like pseudo Rome?
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Yeah they have deblurred ones and a real gingerblur with android 2.3.
Do your research first.
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cegna09 said:
this thread makes me chuckle. wait for us to crack it and then patch it? Ha. I mean sure that works for root, but the bootloader? The DroidX has been on sale since July of last year, and that hasn't been cracked, what makes you think we'll have more luck with this phone?
plus it was AT&T taht promised the HSUPA update. If motoroloa was holding it off for their own personal reasons that would have to piss off AT&T since it means more bad press for them.
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Droid x bootloader has been cracked
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Yeah they have deblurred ones and a real gingerblur with android 2.3.
Do your research first.
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What do u mean do my research first.... I asked a question and the only reason they've have 2.3 is cause it was leaked.... if we had a 2.3 leak We would have one too
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/15/htc-one-att-bootloader/
you guys think this is true?? I hope not!
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Was the one x unlockable on at&t? Nope... I imagine they will continue this trend. I mean... Why not.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/15/htc-one-att-bootloader/
you guys think this is true?? I hope not!
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I think it's true... considering that HTC themselves said so...
If it is would it be a big deal? I don't know how HTC phones work really, I've modded a evo once but that's it. I've been a Sammy user for 3 years.
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If it is would it be a big deal? I don't know how HTC phones work really, I've modded a evo once but that's it. I've been a Sammy user for 3 years.
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Yup... Means no custom roms until someone finds an exploit.
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That sucks. How long did it take for the one x? Also how long would it take for the one?
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If I remember the AT&T one x had a bootloader unlock in a matter of weeks.
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If I remember the AT&T one x had a bootloader unlock in a matter of weeks.
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Well... A month the first time. Then they updated the firmware and that took about 5 months to crack... Still can't root the latest update... I'd be willing to bet we'll be waiting a long time. But hey, maybe this device will get popular.
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Does this mean anything for the tmo version, or does no mention of it mean that tmo's will be bootloader unlockable?
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Darn, I guess no more tethering to my tablet once I get my new phone??
maidguitar said:
Does this mean anything for the tmo version, or does no mention of it mean that tmo's will be bootloader unlockable?
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This question has been answered many times
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lol, looks like you guys got the ol' bait and switch
I am hoping I get mine early so I can use HTCDev to unlock it before that gets disabled. I am not optimistic about it though.
It might already be locked out if att is shipping it.
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This may mean hello to the s4... dang.
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It's still unlockable.
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Don't know why people are suprised by this. They locked every htc in recent history and also the Dev version would be completely irrelevant if you could unlock the AT&T version.
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mattman83 said:
Don't know why people are suprised by this. They locked every htc in recent history and also the Dev version would be completely irrelevant if you could unlock the AT&T version.
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mattman83 said:
Don't know why people are suprised by this. They locked every htc in recent history and also the Dev version would be completely irrelevant if you could unlock the AT&T version.
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I'm surprised because I didn't know that. As a samsung user I don't pay much attention to htc.
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Now that the phone has been out for a weekend by AT&T, is there any definitive proof that the AT&T one can still unlock the bootloader via HTC dev post 4/19?
Has anyone attempted it? Or are people receiving retail units with the bootloader locked?
This may be my last device from AT&T!
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Corvette Dave said:
This may be my last device from AT&T!
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Agreed. Not very happy with this at all. Locking us out of our own devices that most of us paid FULL PRICE FOR!!!
Yeah me too... This sucks... I'm seriously thinking about selling mine and buying a international model. Does anyone know which model works good on At&t?
I bought 2 note 3's and and 1 gear. Dropped about a G and I can't use my device the way I would like? Not a happy customer at this point.
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Corvette Dave said:
This may be my last device from AT&T!
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I went to an AT&T store a few days ago to get a secure element for free (SIM) and received a text survey the next day. I gave the employee a 10 but said I wouldnt recommend at&t to a friend, and everything else I gave low low reviews. They called me several hours later and I let them know why... I am sure it doesnt mean much... but at least they know I think they suck!
The people on the phone tried to help... but didn't really know how to go about getting someone to talk to me about bootloaders... they even recommended me checking out XDA to unlock it... LOL awesome.
I told them that I am perfectly fine with voiding my warranty... so can I please get this flashed to an international version... no idea how to answer something like that... oh well...
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This may be my last device from AT&T!
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Don't see why you would think it was necessary to open a thread to say the obvious. If you don't want at&t sell it. Buy an international. C-ya bye
NightHawkUndead said:
Don't see why you would think it was necessary to open a thread to say the obvious. If you don't want at&t sell it. Buy an international. C-ya bye
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Yeah right. I'm sure this thread will be locked. I knew what I was getting when I bought it. I really didn't care as long as I could root.
If flashing and ROMing is that important, get a different phone. The T-Mobile version of the Note 3 is unlocked and will work on AT&T. I prefer AT&T because I get 4G/LTE where I live and in the building where I work.
Very happy with my Note 3 rooted and using Xposed, Wanam, etc. No need for a custom ROM. At least for me anyways.
AT&T has analytics on social media and Web information they collect on what is being said about them. Most large companies do and thought this might get some attention.
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I think there are threads about this already... Before the opinion gods explode in here gonna close this... :good:
Expert opinion and tester for this
http://sigmakey.com/en/Sigma-News/Sigma-Software-v.2.10.01.html
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Expert opinion and tester for this
http://sigmakey.com/en/Sigma-News/Sigma-Software-v.2.10.01.html
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some more info
It should work, but is going to be over $100. It spoofs the IMEI to be one that is unlockable by Motorola, unlocks it, and then reverts back to your old IMEI.
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Shouldn't we be able to spoof the imei without paying $100 for some hardware?
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The biggest problem with that is the fact XDA would not stand for this method.
Spoofing the imei could be seen as immoral as would tricking Motorola.
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I don't think morality really would be the issue there, as refusing to fix a flawed last firmware or even making it high impossible to put your own on us immoral enough by Motorola. But isn't spoofing the imei illegal in the US? I think the main issue.
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Tinkering with IMEI is not allowed I.e. against XDA rules...
I thought so. Pity that's the way we would have to go about unlocking the boot loader.
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Tinkering with IMEI is not allowed I.e. against XDA rules...
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Really? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734558 Than why this??
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Really? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734558 Than why this??
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there's a bit of a discussion on it here and a moderator has also commented on said discussion here. regardless, if you're feeling lucky, go ahead...
where would one get an unlockable IMEI?
I would assume from Motorola directly.
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where would one get an unlockable IMEI?
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By purchasing a device that is eligible to be unlocked by Moto.
Well that's redundant....
hazam1992 said:
Well that's redundant....
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It's not ethical to obtain an unlockable IMEI, probably even illegal.