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I have Home++ I use the kill all feature on the rocket dock. it then says your free memory is 160mb. which am happy with, and then 5 - 10 minutes later, with my phone just being idle, i click on to see what apps are running and. i have about 15 apps running. from doing nothing.
Not sure why my apps run automatically, also when i turn on my phone, every single app turns on. WTF!!!
It's meant to. That is how android and linux works.
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duffy1807 said:
I have Home++ I use the kill all feature on the rocket dock. it then says your free memory is 160mb. which am happy with, and then 5 - 10 minutes later, with my phone just being idle, i click on to see what apps are running and. i have about 15 apps running. from doing nothing.
Not sure why my apps run automatically, also when i turn on my phone, every single app turns on. WTF!!!
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just let them run. stop killing them.
lifeflayer said:
just let them run. stop killing them.
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Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
duffy1807 said:
Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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thats simply not the way it works, let them run, if the o/s sees there is another program that wants some ram it will clear some by killing lesser priority apps.
I stopped using task killers about 3 weeks ago. My phone runs much quicker now I've stopped killing everything... Let the tech do it's own thing and it works surprisingly well....
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duffy1807 said:
Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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have you even tried to use the phone without a task manager? the apps in the background are in a frozen state, which means they are simply cached in the ram so when you restart them they open instantly AND retain the old state. there is absolutely no reason to kill an program unless the program bugged out.
mine runs ok i have this kind of apps called FSFILE EXPLORER in this apps wen i hit the menu you can see task manager then all previous apps that i open it highlighted into green color hit kill selected witch is highlighted then memory increase.... nothing is running on the idle.
unused ram is wasted ram
Ok guys will uninstall my task killer and see how i get on thanks
The advice of not killing aps doesn't really wash when you have apps that cause battery drain. I find that killing apps increases battery life.
alitech said:
The advice of not killing aps doesn't really wash when you have apps that cause battery drain. I find that killing apps increases battery life.
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get rid of those apps and get better ones
The apps are the stock apps that come with the firmware. You cant get rid of them mate.
The apps are the stock apps that come with the firmware. You cant get rid of them mate.
unused ram is wasted ram
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So using more ram doesn't use more battery? ;-)
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So using more ram doesn't use more battery? ;-)
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So when the X10 first got released, everyone was blaming Moxier for being a battery pig regardless if you were using it or not. Are we now saying that isn't true?
That's correct - Moxier doesn't use any juice (not noticeable anyway).. I ran a test with wifi off and data/ mms off over night.. so it was just basically a dumb phone with loads of fancy apps.. it used 2% in about 8 hours...
No start up auditor, no task manager... I am running Helix Launcher.
It's natural to not want apps running in the background. What's the first thing you want to do to optimise your PC? Remove unused startup processes and background tasks. It's more important for a phone which has more limited resources than a PC.
I don't use Moxier Mail, Timescape or PlayNow. But for some reason they all open themselves up in the background every so often.
Iceman, I feel pretty lame for trying to manage the apps so much. Going to try a the same test tonight to see what happens.
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I searched but haven't found any results.
I recently was adjusting my setting in setcpu, and I set it too high momentarily. I set it to 787 and the phone started to freeze. I normally set it to 710 or 729 maximum. After it froze, I rebooted. Since that time, my phone has been lagging at times (scrolling between screens etc).
So I wanted to know if there is a way to test the cpu to see if it is operating normally. Any help, or a point in the right direction would be appreciated.
I just want to make sure I didn't damage anything, or if the lag I'm seeing is a result of something else.
Thanks in advance.
edit: I ran a stress test in setcpu, and it said no errors
Just clock it back down to where it was stable...
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Just clock it back down to where it was stable...
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I did that, I am flashing a new rom now. I did a complete wipe. I'm flashing CyanogenTazz v3. It was only lagging on home screens. I'm thinking it may be something with launcherpro, since everything else was running normal.
I even did a nand backup, and still had lag. We'll see what happens now with a fresh install.
Try uninstalling SetCPU when you get CyanogenTazz, it's not really necessary as the phone will overclock/underclock itself.
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Try uninstalling SetCPU when you get CyanogenTazz, it's not really necessary as the phone will overclock/underclock itself.
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It installed automatically, since I had it installed on version 2. I haven't opened or set it yet. I will uninstall and see what happens. So far I seem to be running smooth.
If I start getting lag again, I'm going to uninstall launcherpro, and try running adw for a bit. I hope there's not a problem with launcherpro, I love that app.
So recently I've lost the ability to multitask, specifically in the way I could jump around from open app to open app and have them still be open as opposed to "restoring" their last state.
It's really annoying and feels alot like an iPhone. If I'm surfing a website or two and go to the text messaging program it's a black screen as if the program had just opened for the first time.
Then if I go back to my browser, all my tabs will "restore" back which is essentially like reloading them all from scratch whereas before I could jump back forth to between the programs and pick right back from where I was without waiting for some "restoring" nonsense.
Does anyone know how to fix this? I've tried different settings in autokiller but that didnt help either
Thanks in advance
So are you using a task killer? Try uninstalling it, soft reset, and try it.
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I've tried different settings in autokiller but that didnt help either
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I was going to say try a more lenient AutoKiller setting but if that's not cutting it, I don't know what would
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So are you using a task killer? Try uninstalling it, soft reset, and try it.
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I guess I could uninstall autokiller but I never used it until this problem started happening so idk what good it'd do. But I suppose it is worth a try!
Flashing worked, well I changed roms anyway but I'm sure reflashing would have worked too!
Now I get to enjoy Froyo
So my wife and myself both have the Fascinate. Both are running JT's 1.2 Kernel, both running LauncherPro, similar apps, etc.
She's been IMing me this morning letting me know that her phone is running really really slow, like it takes more than a few seconds for her to type keys for a text message.
I've had her do a couple restarts and battery pulls, but that doesn't seem to be doing anything yet.
Until I get home to check it out and see what's going on, is there anything I should look into that would cause such crappy performance?
Thanks in advance.
Autokiller doesn't seem to play nicely sometimes, if you have that installed.
(The lowmemkiller tweaker, not task killer).
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Autokiller doesn't seem to play nicely sometimes, if you have that installed.
(The lowmemkiller tweaker, not task killer).
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I have it on mine, it might be on her's, i'll tell her to uninstall it if she does have it.
I have no issues with mine so far though, that i know of.
Did she reset the slider in setcpu to 1200 after reboot?
Just a silly question: not using the setcpu widget is she?
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Did she reset the slider in setcpu to 1200 after reboot?
Just a silly question: not using the setcpu widget is she?
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she isn't, and it's set to boot. that was something I was going to look at when I got home, but unless she did something to change it from set on boot, it should be fine.
Maybe something running in the background...?
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Maybe something running in the background...?
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Yea, until I can actually get the phone's in my hands, I have no idea. There is a chance she might have downloaded or installed something that caused her phone to wig out, she probably would have told me if she did though.
I also won't know more until she starts texting me back too. lol
You're running the voodoo kernel right? If so, the general consensus here is that the build of Voodoo that's in the currently released kernels (like JT's 1.2), slows down with use. I saw this myself. It negated most of the performance benefit of voodoo with time.
A temporary solution, is to wipe cache. I normally did a wipe davlik and normal cache, thru CWM. That speeds it up again, until it slows down, or so it seems... Hard to get definite answers on most of this stuff that don't go over my head.
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So my wife and myself both have the Fascinate. Both are running JT's 1.2 Kernel, both running LauncherPro, similar apps, etc.
She's been IMing me this morning letting me know that her phone is running really really slow, like it takes more than a few seconds for her to type keys for a text message.
I've had her do a couple restarts and battery pulls, but that doesn't seem to be doing anything yet.
Until I get home to check it out and see what's going on, is there anything I should look into that would cause such crappy performance?
Thanks in advance.
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There are a lot of factors that go into performance, and slow is something I refuse to tolerate. Lol. I don't know what your comfort level is with the various processes, but if I were unable to find the culprit, I would probably rebuild.
This would mean complete voodoo uninstall via adrenalynes thread instructions, and Odin to stock.
Reroot
Apply CWM
Either remove all unwanted bloatware, or just install one of the several roms. I'm running Jt's super clean without issue.
Theme and mod if desired
Once you're situated to your content, Voodoo. I recommend making that the last step.
I run SetCPU on custom, specific to the kernel you're using, and use Juice Defender beta, autorunkiller and auto killer with and aggressive main profile and an ultimate secondary.
I do also make it a habit to reboot once a day, just because Android in general seems to like that.
I don't tend to keep any touchwiz I don't use, including the launcher. It's bulky in and of itself. It can be replaced by dropping your launcher of choice in the /system /app directory, and then freezing, renaming, or removing it.
I know this isn't a correct response to your initial question, but there are so many factors that could be causing your issue, I thought I would share what works for me. Until I occasionally decide to experiment and bork my phone, this process always gives me a perfectly smooth, incredibly responsive device with no FC, lag, slow down, or other issues, and battery is at least 16 hours of high use.
My GF kept her touchwiz launcher, widgets, and wallpapers, but otherwise has the same set up, and she's been running liquid smooth for a month.
If your problem goes away after installing something, disregard this post. Lol. Every device is a little different.
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Her setcpu setting got reset and was set to something different causing it to act retarded.
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Her setcpu setting got reset and was set to something different causing it to act retarded.
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This happened to me a few times with my Incredible. It was enough of a pain that i ended up uninstalling it and my phone stopped having mysterious slow downs.
I'm hoping my Fascinate has better luck with over-clocking than the incredible did... SetCPU makes me miss Govnah and the uberkernel from my Pre+
I just spent some time trying to figure out what had broken my contacts functionality and this was it. Again, removing "blur_yahoo.apk" and the associated .odex file will break the contacts app. After removal, clicking on a contact in the dialer/contact app will just shut the app down. I've no idea why, since the yahoo app is for yahoo mail.
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F**k...I just noticed that too
I noticed that freezing some of the messaging/social services also seems to force close the built-in message app too. If you use something like ChompSMS then it isn't a big deal b/c that still works.
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F**k...I just noticed that too
I noticed that freezing some of the messaging/social services also seems to force close the built-in message app too. If you use something like ChompSMS then it isn't a big deal b/c that still works.
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Hm, I deleted all of the messaging/social stuff and my moto text app (conversations.apk) still works...
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Really? Hmm...might be something else then that you'd think wouldn't affect it but does.
guys which apps should i delete that won't mess with the software....that will get rid of the bloatware
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won't mess with the software
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Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense
JagoX said:
Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense
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like it doesnt delete important apk's and things needed that will make the phone crash or delete files needed to make the phone functional
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like it doesnt delete important apk's and things needed that will make the phone crash or delete files needed to make the phone functional
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You should probably do some more research before you start messing with that b/c it can brick the OS requiring a full install of the ROM. In this case, if you don't do a restore before removing stuff you'll be restoring the SBF file a lot.
But to answer your question though...the app you want is Titanium Backup Pro (aka the pay version b/c of the "Freeze" option.)
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Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense
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im not that stupid i know what an SBF is and i know how to do it ive done it all the time!...
i just didnt know which apps would be best to freeze
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im not that stupid i know what an SBF is and i know how to do it ive done it all the time!...
i just didnt know which apps would be best to freeze
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Well since the GB build for the DX just came out, I haven't been able to find a definitive thread anywhere (including on MyDroidWorld) listing what is save to remove or at least freeze. As of right now I think it's safe to say that its going to be a trial and error situation.
There are threads somewhere (droidforums?) about which of the 2.1 and 2.2 apps are safe to remove. While there are some new apps, those that were safe before are still safe. Of the new apps, the blur_yahoo is the only one that's given me trouble. Be warned, though, that while you can remove Backup Assistant and Blur Home, if you do a factory reset from within Android (rather than from clockworkmod), your initial install will break and you'll need to sbf if you can't get back into clockwork.
Also, bluremailengine is needed for blurcalendar to work properly. I remove bluremail, all the third party crap, all the social crap, swipe, and various other things I don't use like universal inbox, widgets, etc. Really, you just need to play with it.
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There are threads somewhere (droidforums?) about which of the 2.1 and 2.2 apps are safe to remove. While there are some new apps, those that were safe before are still safe. Of the new apps, the blur_yahoo is the only one that's given me trouble. Be warned, though, that while you can remove Backup Assistant and Blur Home, if you do a factory reset from within Android (rather than from clockworkmod), your initial install will break and you'll need to sbf if you can't get back into clockwork.
Also, bluremailengine is needed for blurcalendar to work properly. I remove bluremail, all the third party crap, all the social crap, swipe, and various other things I don't use like universal inbox, widgets, etc. Really, you just need to play with it.
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Yea I know about those threads (I have one open right now actually) but since this is a whole new version of Blur & version of Android w/ a lot of changes & new options...who knows what Motorola changed or buried deeper into the system.
Thanks for being the guinea pig though I've never had a reason to use factory reset after a ROM is installed so removing BA & Blur Home isn't a big deal.
One question...have you removed the Messaging & Text Messaging apps at all? I still can't figure out what it was that caused the Text Messaging app to quit on me as soon as it was opened. Not that it's a big deal...b/c ChompSMS worked fine for me
Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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That's always been a problem with MotoBlur (and even HTC Sense)...it's all the services that load in the background all at once (even after freezing or removing some services.)
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Yea I know about those threads (I have one open right now actually) but since this is a whole new version of Blur & version of Android w/ a lot of changes & new options...who knows what Motorola changed or buried deeper into the system.
Thanks for being the guinea pig though I've never had a reason to use factory reset after a ROM is installed so removing BA & Blur Home isn't a big deal.
One question...have you removed the Messaging & Text Messaging apps at all? I still can't figure out what it was that caused the Text Messaging app to quit on me as soon as it was opened. Not that it's a big deal...b/c ChompSMS worked fine for me
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I removed all the messaging crap except the default messaging app (conversations.apk). I use Google Voice so I don't use the default app, but I sent myself a message using it and it worked just fine.
Note: you can do a data wipe/factory reset from within clockwork and you'll be fine.
If someone can produce a list of everything in /system/app (well, just the .apks would do), I can mark the ones I've successfully removed without problems.
Ditto to that...I'd be happy to contribute what I've frozen.
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Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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That's always been a problem with MotoBlur (and even HTC Sense)...it's all the services that load in the background all at once (even after freezing or removing some services.)
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Mine takes about 10-15 seconds from the appearance of the homescreen until it's at full speed. Of course, I've overclocked to 1.2 GHz, debloated, zipaligned, implemented drod's rubix tweaks, and used autostarts to kill unnecessary apps from loading at boot.
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Mine takes about 10-15 seconds from the appearance of the homescreen until it's at full speed. Of course, I've overclocked to 1.2 GHz, debloated, zipaligned, implemented drod's rubix tweaks, and used autostarts to kill unnecessary apps from loading at boot.
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Hmm. 10-15 seconds seems a tad excessive then. I'm still running stock speed, LPP 0.8.4.1, debloated most major apps and also used Autostarts to kill some apps at boot (as well as in the Widgets menu)...and while I see a slight lag it's not 10-15 seconds.
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Hmm. 10-15 seconds seems a tad excessive then. I'm still running stock speed, LPP 0.8.4.1, debloated most major apps and also used Autostarts to kill some apps at boot (as well as in the Widgets menu)...and while I see a slight lag it's not 10-15 seconds.
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You're right. I just timed it. About 38 seconds from red M to full appearance of desktop (I've got the boot animation disabled) and about 25 seconds from full desktop to all widgets loaded and ready to go. I underestimated by 40-60%! I'm using the blur launcher, btw.
Something must be wrong with mine then...because mine lasts a good 3 to 4 minutes...and that seems very long for services to be starting...
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