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Just a few questions:
For those using an unlocked Galaxy S in the US, is there any 3G (data) issue you are noticing?
How is performance and availability of 3G with 1900Mhz spectrum when using a Galaxy S?
I am in NJ (Mercer county) and was wondering if anyone here was in NJ and had an unlocked SGS on AT&T and whether they were getting mainly EDGE.
How will I get official patches or Android updates for my unlocked SGS, does anyone have a link to a download page?
Where did you buy? How much?
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Updates should go through the samsung kies software (available on samsungmobile.com) or OTA. OTA is definitly possible even with unlocked handsets as I have received them on my unlocked htc desire.
Don't know which method samsung will choose tho, since I haven't received any updates so far.
Any user of an unlocked SGS in USA that can comment on the AT&T 3G (data) performance in the North East region?
I know AT&T is moving most 3g to 850Mhz but I cannot imagine that they would abandon 3G on the 1900Mhz spectrum since international (GSM) travelers would be unable to get any 3g when visiting (especially for business travelers).
kurtkbee said:
Any user of an unlocked SGS in USA that can comment on the AT&T 3G (data) performance in the North East region?
I know AT&T is moving most 3g to 850Mhz but I cannot imagine that they would abandon 3G on the 1900Mhz spectrum since international (GSM) travelers would be unable to get any 3g when visiting (especially for business travelers).
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They are not moving anything off 1900Mhz, they are just adding new 3g towers only on 850Mhz.
If you had 1900Mhz 3g in your area, it is not going to go away.
If you did not have 3G in your area or had spotty 3g and recently got good 3g then it is probably on 850Mhz.
I have same issue in my use. Used 2 get 3g off of i93. Thiswith my i8910 euro phone on 1900 now only edge same on galaxy. So they r definitely moving towers to 850.
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nice nice nice!!!
Thanks for all the information guys.
From what I am hearing it seems that this is a well designed phone (except for the plastic feel of the back and the lack of a flash for the camera).
This is my fist android phone and as a person who is seriously tied to my corporate email system (Exchange 2007), I can only hope for a quick implementation of Firmware 2.2 which will allow tighter integration with office systems (SSL VPN and Exchange).
I am really hoping to get this phone soon and I will be flashing it with the latest firmware as soon as I open it.
On a side note (not that I would try it without someone else going first) is anyone testing MoDaCo's custom build with WJG1 as the base? Also, if I am running a custom ROM I assume that when an official build is out I have to wipe and re-flash with an official build first before upgrading to 2.2?
I GOT IT !!
So far I am really loving the phone. Since I like breaking things I am going to flash it now with the latest FW since it has this singtel firmware.
Now I just have to find a way to rip all the DRM from my apple/itunes songs to be totally free.
Quick question, the email client sucks. I need to only let it pull email from my "inbox" folder not other (Exchange) email folders, How do I configure it to do that? Or is there a better app for corporate email that I can use?
Hey guys
I have one of the Telstra Galaxy Tabs, and basically want to work a few things out with it.
First off I gather, with mention of all the carrier-specific or gsm/CDMA Specific ROMs, this has something to do with a radio or some such being included?
The Telstra "Next G" Network, which the Tab is used on, is basically 3g on 850mhz. Which of the types would this come under?
I have "Some" experience with flashing/ROMs/etc, namely on my Desire, so I am no expert by any means (Defo wanting to learn, and have learnt a lot from here so far ) but I do have a small amount of experience.
Thanks guys.
So, the community round here will answer questions for people that have obviously not bothered to search and ask the same stupid crap over and over and over, yet someone who has done a LOT of research, and is legitimately confused over a terminology issue (because technically it ISNT GSM or CDMA if you learn how the networks actually work) and just wants a simple answer to a simple question, just gets totally ignored?
Great to see guys, Great to see.
850 would be like att
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GSM radio hardware is largely irrelevant, the hardware does the heavy lifting, the firmware doesn't care that it is, as long as it supports the right protocols.
Telstra uses a GSM/HSDPA/WCDMA network. In most cases, this is the case if your device has a SIM card.
The Tab sold here is essentially the standard UK version. If Telstra has an 850/2100Mhz HSDPA version then that could potentially be different. If you can root it using SuperOneClick, then run a complete firmware backup and try updating with another GSM firmware (e.g. RotoHammers JME) and see how you go. Before doing so, check that the device is unlocked, check if it can be rooted, determine the existing firmware/modem versions and the CSC version. It may be a custom firmware, it may not.
Your "LOT of research" was obviously fairly deficient if it hadn't ruled out Telstra using a CDMA network. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra
corodius said:
Hey guys
I have one of the Telstra Galaxy Tabs, and basically want to work a few things out with it.
First off I gather, with mention of all the carrier-specific or gsm/CDMA Specific ROMs, this has something to do with a radio or some such being included?
The Telstra "Next G" Network, which the Tab is used on, is basically 3g on 850mhz. Which of the types would this come under?
I have "Some" experience with flashing/ROMs/etc, namely on my Desire, so I am no expert by any means (Defo wanting to learn, and have learnt a lot from here so far ) but I do have a small amount of experience.
Thanks guys.
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Hey mate, i have a telstra tab, on original firmware (jj3 i think) i would only ever get 3g..
After flashing rotos jme + the phone.bin, i now get hspa most the time.
Rotos firmware works perfectly, but as always backup everything
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GSM radio hardware is largely irrelevant, the hardware does the heavy lifting, the firmware doesn't care that it is, as long as it supports the right protocols.
Telstra uses a GSM/HSDPA/WCDMA network. In most cases, this is the case if your device has a SIM card.
The Tab sold here is essentially the standard UK version. If Telstra has an 850/2100Mhz HSDPA version then that could potentially be different. If you can root it using SuperOneClick, then run a complete firmware backup and try updating with another GSM firmware (e.g. RotoHammers JME) and see how you go. Before doing so, check that the device is unlocked, check if it can be rooted, determine the existing firmware/modem versions and the CSC version. It may be a custom firmware, it may not.
Your "LOT of research" was obviously fairly deficient if it hadn't ruled out Telstra using a CDMA network. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra
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Well, The network you are referencing is actually the "Telstra 3g" Network used only in the capital cities around here. The network my Tab is used on/made for is the "Next G" Network. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_G is the specific network. As you can see, it is technically not GSM at all, it is UMTS, and actually replaced our old CDMA network. So, this is where my confusion was coming in. But, if I have this correct, it is used as a basic term, meaning GSM = Sim Card and CDMA = No Sim Card (like our old CDMA network, phone itself is coded to the number/network type thing, which to be honest I didn't realise still even existed) yeah?
Cheers for clearing that up
As for the freqs, if I do a *#2263# the 3 WCDMA bands that are starred are 850mhz 1900mhz and 2100mhz. The GSM Fallback shows GSM 850 GSM 900 DCS 1800 PCS 1900 all starred. (Yes I did realise this before, I explained why I was confused with the terms hehe) The main band I have to worry about really is 850mhz though, on the WCDMA side, as you would have seen from the link.
Well, the device can be rooted with Z4Root at least, that is what I have used to root the device. This is exactly what I intend to try, once I am sure I understand everything. Does not hurt to read and re-read until one is definately comfortable with the steps, and I like to understand what every part is that I am doing.
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Hey mate, i have a telstra tab, on original firmware (jj3 i think) i would only ever get 3g..
After flashing rotos jme + the phone.bin, i now get hspa most the time.
Rotos firmware works perfectly, but as always backup everything
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Just to be 100% sure, that is the one here? And you are on the Next G Network? (I assume so with the 850mhz band etc, I thought this would work, but doesn't hurt to be sure I am looking at the right one you are talking about hehe.)
I can confirm the original firmware is JJ3, with phone calling capabilities etc.
Of course, backups always come first, always.
Thank you heaps for the info.
Also, if there is any part of this device's firmware etc that would be helpful in any way to the devs, I would be happy to extract anything needed from a rotobackup or whatever. I won't be flashing it straight away, and definately not before a full backup anyway.
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HI mate, how did you go with the flash?
I'm thinking of doing this as well, but just want to see if anybody has noticed any difference (for the better that is).
I have n Australian telstra tab on the next g network, and flashing a rom was the best thing I ever did
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
Hey, not trying to hijack this thread, although I too just got a SGT for the wife from Optus this morning and playing around with it and keen to hack.
Mine came with the following
PDA : P1000XWJJ4
PHONE : P1000XXJID
CSC : P1000OPSJJ3
Build Time : 2010.10.16 20:35:06 KST
Changelist : 639474
Firmware 2.2
Kernel Version : 2.6.32.9
Keen to know what is the best rom for us here down under, i'm, off to root me SGT.
Cheers
Kosti
For the optus tab any euro rom will work i started with the modaco rom and kernal then moved to the overcome rom and kernal. Both ran prefectly just make a backup to be safe.
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snoopXR6 said:
For the optus tab any euro rom will work i started with the modaco rom and kernal then moved to the overcome rom and kernal. Both ran prefectly just make a backup to be safe.
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Thanks heaps!
I did try to root it, and used OneClick, when 1st time round it sort of worked, then I tried it again with the rageagainstcage option and busybox installed this time round.
Next is off to grab overcome rom, will try and do a backup but only have a 1G card atm
Again thanks and sorry to the OP for the hijack
PEACE
Kosti
Hi
I have recently purchased an HTC Wildfire A3335. For those of you don't know, this is a special version of the Wildfire which has a UMTS 850/2100 Radio. Anyway this phone seems only to be available heavily branded through an Australian operator, Telstra.
Due to the hideousness of the branding, I naturally wanted to get rid of it. This was pretty easy-- Cool-- I now have an unbranded wildfire A3335.
Now, when it was flashing (using an HTC RUU exe) I noticed that it was "Reflashing the radio". I freaked out. I know this phone has a special radio in it and of course the unbranded RUU is for the 900/2100 UMTS version (A3333).
So as expected the phone has lost its very special 850MHz UMTS and now only works at 2100MHz (I doubt the phone has suddenly gained the ability to use 900MHz UMTS as it has the wrong chips in it)
The Radio image for this phone is available inside the Telstra RUU on shipped-roms.
My question. Is it possible to extract the radio image out of that and flash it in with the rest of the unbranded system? And hopefully get my 850MHz UMTS back. Currently it appears that the answer to this is no due to the lack of signing?
Current HBOOT: 0.80-0007
Current ROM HTC Standard (Eclair 2.1) 1.37
You can't lose or gain any frequencies by flashing the radio, it's in the hardware...
OK firstly, I did lose 850MHz when flashing the standard image on, so you definitely can lose (but never gain)
The Radio PHY in the phone will be split into two parts, the 2100MHz part and the 850MHz part (or a 900MHz part).
So on the normal wildfire radio image, there's a driver which is likely compiled to drive a 2100/900 radio, and when we run that image on the 2100/850 phone, 2100 remains working because this part of the chip is identical. The 850MHz part dies completely because this driver is not expecting it.
I know how lazy microcode developers are - it's very rare for anyone to go to the effort to make microcode images to support two subtley different chips, instead they will compile two versions of the microcode with subtle changes for each one. Only one bit in a register need be set wrong and the whole lot comes crashing down!
Now there could be a scenario where the radio is a 100% hardware solution, and there is no microcode for the UMTS radio, in which case there's a better chance that having the wrong radio image is not an issue, as the chips themselves are more autonomous. But then - What does the radio image do? In my experience of working with 802.11 Radio PHYs: Not likely. These chips are almost always highly software driven and must be running the correct code to fully function.
Okay so it looks like I just became the "expert" on this one and can now answer my own question.
It is possible to restore the original Telstra radio image, without rebranding the phone using the Telstra RUU.
This is what I did:
1) Download Telstra RUU from shipped-roms
2) Extract radio.img using this process: http://lukasz.szmit.eu/2010/04/extracting-rom-files-from-htc-android.html
3) Repacked radio.img into an update.zip
4) Signed update.zip using http://android.modaco.com/content/software/313829/pc-tool-zip-signer-v1-1/#entry1348449
5) Manually added com/google/android directory into META-INF directory in ZIP file (Copied from someone else's radio image.
6) Flashed image using clockworkmod "update sdcard" menu (unrevoked had already installed clockworkmod)
Done! I've got my 850MHz back again!
I've included the update.zip with the Telstra wildfire radio image here: http://xpander.inaxeon.com/data/files/update.zip
It's interesting looking around the various forums, I think a lot of people have been willy nilly flashing the wrong radios onto their special 850MHz devices then not fully understanding why their phones are without 3G coverage a lot of the time. Oops!
Interesting, last time I checked the radios were identical. I must have missed something. I'll try cross flashing the Telstra A3335 radio on the 900/2100mhz A3333 and see what happens, 3G up here in Canada runs on 850/1900, getting 3G on one of the 2 bands would be nice.
Edit: It's the same as the other radio of the same version 13.45.55.24/3.35.15.31 , did a checksum against the HK_CHT one (cid HTC__622, a A3333)
Maybe the "H" in the version have something to do with the frequencies? ie: Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10 from the Froyo WWE rom.
Did you not read my second message!
Unless you have an A3335 flashing the Telstra radio is going to make your phone even worse!
The full solution for 850MHz UMTS requires:
A) The right hardware: (Wildfire A3335)
B) With the right software: The Telstra "Radio_13.45.55.24_3.35.15.31" is currently the only radio image in existance which can correctly drive the A3335, and in no circumstances should be flashed on anything other than the A3335!
Likewise - If you have an A3333
Do not flash the Telstra radio image on it, as it is the wrong code. You'll end up losing your 900MHz UMTS in the process (OK so that doesn't matter too much in Canada)
To say it even simpler:
Every radio image except Telstra is OK for use on the A3333
The A3335 must be running the Telstra radio image
Telstra Radio_13.45.55.24_3.35.15.31 is a special piece of software for a special piece of hardware!
EDIT: Kwen has checksumed the A3333 and A3335 images of Radio_13.45.55.24_3.35.15.31 and found them to be identical. This confirms that this paticular version supports both 850/2100 and 900/2100 phones, whilist newer versions do not. See more recent posts.
i have a telstra wildfire which i have wildpuzzle v.08 running on, with putting a new rom on i would presume i have a different radio, am i correct. yet i can get 3g and wcdma/hsdpa no problems. or am i confusing myself
Thanks for this. I'm going to keep the update.zip safe just incase.
I've just imported an A3335 to use on the Telecom XT network here in NZ and I just flashed it with DK's rom (shame that I'm still stuck with the Telstra splash screen).
Although 850MHz is the primary band Telecom uses for their network they also have 2100MHz fallback in my location, so I'm not 100% sure what band the phone is running on.
Is there a service menu or an app on the marketplace I can use to check the band for peace of mind?
Thanks again.
inaxeon said:
Did you not read my second message!
Unless you have an A3335 flashing the Telstra radio is going to make your phone even worse!
The full solution for 850MHz UMTS requires:
A) The right hardware: (Wildfire A3335)
B) With the right software: The Telstra "Radio_13.45.55.24_3.35.15.31" is currently the only radio image in existance which can correctly drive the A3335, and in no circumstances should be flashed on anything other than the A3335!
Likewise - If you have an A3333
Do not flash the Telstra radio image on it, as it is the wrong code. You'll end up losing your 900MHz UMTS in the process (OK so that doesn't matter too much in Canada)
To say it even simpler:
Every radio image except Telstra is OK for use on the A3333
The A3335 must be running the Telstra radio image
Telstra Radio_13.45.55.24_3.35.15.31 is a special piece of software for a special piece of hardware!
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It made no difference, couldn't tell if I lost the 900Mhz, couldn't get the 850Mhz for sure.
I tried playing in the Field test menu to switch between GSM Only to WCDMA Prefered/Only and the Band selection menu and completly lost access to GSM, it was stuck on WCDMA Only, had to do a nand restore (nothing to do with the radio version)
I'm not sure if the Radio_13.45.55.24_3.35.15.31 is exclusive to the A3335, most of the roms uses it:
Vodafone SPA
H3G ITA
HTC WWE
HTC Asia India
HTC Asia WWE
HTC Asia HK CHT (that's my phone and it'ss a A3333)
H3G UK
HTC Asia TW
HTC FRA Bouygues
HTC WWE Tesco
Vodafone DE
How did you find out which band your Wildfire was using? (or did you just not have any signal?)
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How did you find out which band your Wildfire was using? (or did you just not have any signal?)
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Pretty easy. My operator has no GSM (at all) or 2100MHz sites where this phone is most commonly used. When the alternate radio was flashed on, the phone flat out lost all connectivity to the network. It only returned when the phone was driven to a place known to have 2100MHz coverage. That was a pretty damning and poignant confirmation.
About the versions of the Radio, When I was first considering flashing the RUU I had already been concerned about the radio image and checked the version. I saw that it was used in other A3333 targetted images so assumed that the radio images were not phone specific. Turns out I was wrong.
What would be interesting is to checksum compare Radio_13.45.55.24_3.35.15.31 from Telstra vs. other images. If they are identical, then we know that this particular version supports both style of radios, in which case it is safe for both versions. The reason I've always been qualifying that version "Telstra" is in the fear that they are different despite the identical version number.
Short of actually being a hard core hacker or HTC engineer, It's a bit hard to tell really. All one can really do is share their experiences.
I can confirm thier identical checksum (I checked against another one - not all the versions lol)
another special version of the WF
Hey man, I have a wildfire which runs on these frequencies GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz and HSPA/WCDMA 850/1900 MHz.
I was going to flash a stock RUU till I read your post, so I wanted to thank you for saving my precious 3g!
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Hey man, I have a wildfire which runs on these frequencies GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz and HSPA/WCDMA 850/1900 MHz.
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What the heck model is that!
I understand HTC may have a provision for 850/1900 (Model A3334) But as far as I knew that never went into production due to lack of interest from operators. Or is this a fruity variant of one of the new Wildfire S models?
EDIT: As bought to my attention by juanchotolas - it appears that the 850/1900 A3334? (Awaiting confirmation of the exact model number) may exist after all. It leads a low key existance in Latin America sold under an obfuscated difficult-to-google-for name. It's called "Desire A" but it's really a Wildfire. Here's the little beasty: http://www.htc.com/la/product/htc-desire-a/overview.html
fahrenheit451 said:
Thanks for this. I'm going to keep the update.zip safe just incase.
I've just imported an A3335 to use on the Telecom XT network here in NZ and I just flashed it with DK's rom (shame that I'm still stuck with the Telstra splash screen).
Although 850MHz is the primary band Telecom uses for their network they also have 2100MHz fallback in my location, so I'm not 100% sure what band the phone is running on.
Is there a service menu or an app on the marketplace I can use to check the band for peace of mind?
Thanks again.
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I've spent many an hour searching for such an application and one does not seem to exist. Post one here if you find one.
The phone I've been working on was a present for my sister is also used on Telecom XT, I bought it due to the spectacularly average range of phones available at the time through Leading Edge, hence my burning desire to remove the Telstra branding.
You can imagine how incredibly silly I felt when it arrived, she powered it up and it couldn't connect to XT. The thing that's made it extra frustrating is that I live in the UK and was originally working on the phone from here. The UK only has 2100MHz UMTS so couldn't test properly before posting. I've had to do all of this reflashing over the phone and with remote access from the other side of the planet!
Anyway, If you flash the most recent 2.1 RUU (not 2.2) then reflash the radio I posted, you can achieve a fully unbranded A3335 on XT.
You're fortunate to have 850MHz UMTS over there, No one offers sub 1GHz 3G here and it stinks! I used XT for a few weeks while I was back for Xmas and it was an amazing service (If you can get over the cost). You can't have service like that on any network here. Green with envy.
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I've spent many an hour searching for such an application and one does not seem to exist. Post one here if you find one.
The phone I've been working on was a present for my sister is also used on Telecom XT, I bought it due to the spectacularly average range of phones available at the time through Leading Edge, hence my burning desire to remove the Telstra branding.
You can imagine how incredibly silly I felt when it arrived, she powered it up and it couldn't connect to XT. The thing that's made it extra frustrating is that I live in the UK and was originally working on the phone from here. The UK *only* has 2100MHz UMTS so couldn't test properly before posting. I've had to do all of this reflashing over the phone and with remote access from the other side of the planet!
Anyway, If you flash the most recent 2.1 RUU (not 2.2) then reflash the radio I posted, you can achieve a fully unbranded A3335 on XT.
You're fortunate to have 850MHz UMTS over there, No one offers sub 1GHz 3G here and it stinks! I used XT for a few weeks while I was back for Xmas and it was an amazing service (If you can get over the cost). You can't have service like that on any network here. Green with envy.
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I was attracted to DK's rom because he made mention that the radio was left untouched (or optional to flash). So I'm fairly certain I'm running the original Telstra radio. I just can't be certain.
Would like to flash the 2.1 RUU and then back to DK again to get rid of the splash screen but for me, all that risk isn't worth the vanity. Like you, the phone isn't mine. It was bought for someone else but I'm responsible for its up-keep.
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I was attracted to DK's rom because he made mention that the radio was left untouched (or optional to flash). So I'm fairly certain I'm running the original Telstra radio. I just can't be certain.
Would like to flash the 2.1 RUU and then back to DK again to get rid of the splash screen but for me, all that risk isn't worth the vanity. Like you, the phone isn't mine. It was bought for someone else but I'm responsible for its up-keep.
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I'm all about the vanity! I even replaced its plasticwork to remove the logos from the case and posted it in a London issue Wildfire box (had one spare). There is not a single Telstra logo anywhere on this puppy! I think I'd be pretty comfortable in assuming that it's the only fully software/physically unbranded unit in the country- pretty satisfied with that!
The ROM and the Radio are two different components. You should never overwrite a radio by flashing just a ROM.
There's only two (maybe 3) ways you'll ever end up overwriting the Radio on an HTC phone:
1) Flashing an HTC RUU
2) Explicitly flashing a radio update with Clockworkmod.
3) It is theoretically possible for ROMs to include Radio updates but I've never seen a third party ROM contain a radio image. With maybe a small number of exceptions, ROM developers generally aren't going to risk deploying radios with their releases.
Of course you can easily find out by examining the contents of the META-INF/com/google/android/update-script file in the ZIP archive. If there's any mention of "Radio" in there then avoid it on exotic models like A3335
-strike off. the radio build might be different - there might be radios with partial coverage-
inaxeon said:
What the heck model is that!
I understand HTC may have a provision for 850/1900 (Model A3334) But as far as I knew that never went into production due to lack of interest from operators. Or is this a fruity variant of one of the new Wildfire S models?
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This is the "Latin-american" Wildfire it is called Desire A (but we know it's a wildfire...) Here is the translated link so you can check it out http://translate.google.com/transla...la/product/htc-desire-a/overview.html&act=url
juanchotolas said:
This is the "Latin-american" Wildfire it is called Desire A (but we know it's a wildfire...) Here is the translated link so you can check it out http://translate.google.com/transla...la/product/htc-desire-a/overview.html&act=url
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850/1900, those are freq used in Canada!
Here's the Mexican carrier's page:
http://www.iusacell.com.mx/New_Site/Equipos/
inaxeon said:
You're fortunate to have 850MHz UMTS over there, No one offers sub 1GHz 3G here and it stinks! I used XT for a few weeks while I was back for Xmas and it was an amazing service (If you can get over the cost). You can't have service like that on any network here. Green with envy.
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whats so special about sub ghz 3g? Anyway werent o2 meant to be starting to use 900 mhz
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There are two specific Kiwi issues I would like to discuss.
Does anybody know where to obtain a stock ROM for the I9000 from Telecom New Zealand? I believe there is only Eclair, but would like to be proven wrong. I may require this in case of any warrany issues and to reset before upgrading to Gingerbread (at least I am led to believe this).
Which modem are you using (again Telecom NZ) on your custom ROMs? I have tried a few and I am currently using JL2. I had to flash this separately while using Darky's ROM 9.3, which worked fine in some parts of town but not at all in others (I presume it could not handle the 850 band).
Many thanks in advance
I9000T - Darky 9.3 with Speedmod and JL2 modem
duckbill22 said:
There are two specific Kiwi issues I would like to discuss.
Does anybody know where to obtain a stock ROM for the I9000 from Telecom New Zealand? I believe there is only Eclair, but would like to be proven wrong. I may require this in case of any warrany issues and to reset before upgrading to Gingerbread (at least I am led to believe this).
Which modem are you using (again Telecom NZ) on your custom ROMs? I have tried a few and I am currently using JL2. I had to flash this separately while using Darky's ROM 9.3, which worked fine in some parts of town but not at all in others (I presume it could not handle the 850 band).
Many thanks in advance
I9000T - Darky 9.3 with Speedmod and JL2 modem
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I believe JL2 is the correct modem to use. Do you have a Telecom SGS as the Vodafone one obviously does not support the 850mhz band that Telecom requires. It is possible that the rom/modem combo you are using disables the 850mhz band which would explain why some parts of town aren't working. I'm pretty sure there is a way to enable it if your hardware supports.
As for the thing about the stock rom, I think maybe you should ask people on the Geekzone forums - http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=97&topicid=62267&page_no=323
telecom froyo
I have the telecom froyo release even though it has not been released officially.
i got it from Modaco,(i think cant quite remember), if someone could tell me how to post a download link i can put it up here. Also i have a rom which makes it relly easy to get 850Mhz back. Im at work at the moment so cant post that yet either.
Im using JVE modem with multi csc which works great in new zealand, JVE good for battery too.
pm me if your interested.
Choice one.
Keeping all the New Zealand info in one thread for neatness.
I've just moved in New Zealand from UK. I have UK SGS I9000.
Which New Zealand network would you recommend getting a Sim Card for?
Should I switch my ROM to a New Zealand based one? Hoping to use the free SatNav software too (is it called Navigon or something?), in case this makes a difference on ROM choice.
I've been told that 2degrees is the cheapest network.
Are there any hardware / software limitations on which network I should choose with a UK unit? 850Mhz band availability?
Love to hear your thoughts...
Thanks
Mike
Welcome to NZ. The network will depend on your location: 2 Degrees is cheap but has low coverage in rural areas, Vodaphone is ok in cities. I am with NZ Telecom, they get a bit of flak for problems they have had in the past. However, they are investing huge amounts and have the best rural coverage. Please be aware that your phone will have to use the 850 band in some areas.
I recommend the JL2 modem (ROM kitchen) and Darky 9.3 with Voodoo kernel.
Navigation for GPS use.
I'm with 2Degrees and they're cheap. But as a poster above had mentioned, the coverage outside big cities is limited, especially for data. This of course will change with time. Plus I'm a big supporter of NZ owned businesses.
Vodafone is a horrible company to deal with. Plus they have a lot of network issues everywhere in the country.
I have heard good things about the XT network (Telecom) in terms of speeds and coverage. If I wasn't on the tight budget, this is what I would choose in NZ. I hope this helps. :>
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I'm with 2Degrees and they're cheap. But as a poster above had mentioned, the coverage outside big cities is limited, especially for data.
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Just a quick correction, coverage is fine as the device roams on Voda when out of zone. So if there's voda coverage, there's 2degrees coverage (data is not as cheap though).
I'm using CM7, JPM. All seems fine.
Hello from Hamilton.
Thanks for the advice.
I'm probably going to be mainly in the Wellington region, so should have reasonable coverage on any network. Glad to hear that 2degrees has roaming on Voda though.
Will my UK I9000 SGS have 850MHz band available in the hardware? (sorry if this is a silly question). Will it be used if I have the correct firmware? Is 850MHz band used by all networks in NZ, or only for some networks?
All of the networks appear to be quite pricey for data. Who are the most cost effective for data? I'll be looking for either PAYG or Monthly Sim Only deals.
Thanks again for the great info.
Mike
nzroman said:
I'm with 2Degrees and they're cheap. But as a poster above had mentioned, the coverage outside big cities is limited, especially for data. This of course will change with time. Plus I'm a big supporter of NZ owned businesses.
Vodafone is a horrible company to deal with. Plus they have a lot of network issues everywhere in the country.
Vodafone is a horrible compony in every country. Period…
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xpcomputers said:
Thanks for the advice.
I'm probably going to be mainly in the Wellington region, so should have reasonable coverage on any network. Glad to hear that 2degrees has roaming on Voda though.
Will my UK I9000 SGS have 850MHz band available in the hardware? (sorry if this is a silly question). Will it be used if I have the correct firmware? Is 850MHz band used by all networks in NZ, or only for some networks?
All of the networks appear to be quite pricey for data. Who are the most cost effective for data? I'll be looking for either PAYG or Monthly Sim Only deals.
Thanks again for the great info.
Mike
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I presume you're talking about 850MHz 3G and not 2G.
Vodafone and 2degrees have 900MHz 3G.
Telecom has 850MHz 3G.
I think your UK i9000 supports 900MHz from what I have managed to find out.
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Telecom New Zealand
ive got an international i9000 that i bought before work (telecom) stocked them - so I cant get staff subsidy on my cell heh - I have 2degrees - because of the data pack and living in town - it was bad coverage where i lived out on the west coast at murawai - but in town i have no issues - even in the middle of the telecom borg cube building - i get my 2degrees data and voice coverage
I cannot recommend anyone to you - but I have converted some of the telecom staff i9000's to darkyrom's The theory is that version of the rom supports the 850mhz band - I guess I find out tomorrow with one of them
About backing up your factory rom - root the rom is the minimum first step and then you can make an odin image out of whatever is on the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960946&highlight=[guide]
dunno if that link will be visible or not...
have fun
Thanks guys.
I've gone with 2 degrees for now on a simple pre-pay sim and all looks good. I'll see how much I use it and maybe get an appropriate monthly contract if needed in the future.
Mike
Quick further question...
Which CSC code do New Zealanders have? Should I, stick with my generic UK code, or move to a NZ one? What do you use and recommend?
Does which CSC I have affect my ability to use Navigon for free?
(I forget what my current CSC code is, but I noticed my Google Market is now priced in NZ dollars already, but they want to charge me for navigon download, which I thought was free over here. Ultimately I'll deal with Navigon, in the Navigon thread, and ask about CSC here... Just wondering if there is any implications of what makes a better CSC.)
hey guys,
just want to ask, which pool do you use for gps?
I'm currently setting mine to north america pool but I'm not sure if it's the best one to use in NZ.
anyone knows the best gps pool to use in NZ?
I want fast and accurate lock
[email protected] said:
hey guys,
just want to ask, which pool do you use for gps?
I'm currently setting mine to north america pool but I'm not sure if it's the best one to use in NZ.
anyone knows the best gps pool to use in NZ?
I want fast and accurate lock
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If you've rooted your sgs then try using this app called GPS AIDS from the market. Its very good, i usually get a gps lock in 5-10 seconds indoors with a cold start.
kart_y_26 said:
If you've rooted your sgs then try using this app called GPS AIDS from the market. Its very good, i usually get a gps lock in 5-10 seconds indoors with a cold start.
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Yea, I've been using that app for a while now.
It is very good indeed.
But I would like to improve it more by chaning gps pool through this app actually.
I was wondering whether I should use NZ server for gps or worldwide one...
Set to oceania.pool.ntp.org using FasterFix or other suitable apps.
Has anybody gone 2.3.3 yet? If yes, what about the modem performance on the XT network?
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Yea, I've been using that app for a while now.
It is very good indeed.
But I would like to improve it more by chaning gps pool through this app actually.
I was wondering whether I should use NZ server for gps or worldwide one...
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O rite. From what i remember there's only 3 or 4 to choose from(europe, north america, i mite be forgetting one). The results i posted above were for the europe pool. so i reckon anything better than that would do.
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Set to oceania.pool.ntp.org using FasterFix or other suitable apps.
Has anybody gone 2.3.3 yet? If yes, what about the modem performance on the XT network?
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is oceanic pool better and more stable than others?
I've set to europe and north america, but they were not the best..
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is oceanic pool better and more stable than others?
I've set to europe and north america, but they were not the best..
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Sorry, I cannot answer that with certainty. I do not believe that there are vast differences. I have tried Asia, North America and our version Oceania. I am however, very unhappy with the GPS performance, in particular the length of time to get a fix. Needleess to say, I have followed most guides and tried various fixes. I am, however, limited in changing modems as I rely on 850mhz band.
I am moving to Australia from the UK and want to know what ROM you recommend
Any rom you like should be fine. But maybe the modem will have an effect. I used JPE for a while qith good results. And JVO and JVP at the moment. But others here will know much better than me.
Possibly, if you end up on our Telstra network and if your phone is able to use the correct band, you may need a specific one to access their Next G network. I think it may be the JL2 modem.
Actually, I don't know if all the Galaxy phones have the frequency available to use on that network. I think it's 850mhz. Maybe someone else could let me know if they all have the ability to use it, but have to have the right modem to use it.
I am currently using JVP with the ZSJPG modem. I have found that the JPg modem gives me great battery life with good reception too.
you can choose any rom
the only diffrent is in the battry life and the modem that you can
change.
You probably don't need to change anything. If you choose telstra as your carrier then you may need to flash an 850 compatible modem.
Also if you don't wish to enter the APN manually you could flash a CSC which includes Australian details.
I am personally running stock JVP 2.3.4 with XSA CSC. Nice and fast with brilliant battery life. The XSA CSC is also pre-configured for ALL Australian service providers.
I have used Juwe's and Criskelo both JVO and JVP without any problems.
My wife is using Simply Honey 3.6.1 and loves it, with no FC and great battery and Signal.
I would recommend all of them for Battery, signal and sound quality.
thanks for all the replies so it looks like I don't need to worry too much then.
Most roms and modems from 2.1 onwards work quite well here in Sydney.
Currently on Symply GS2 and have amazing reception and 3g speeds.
GPS is great.
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Only thing to add is that you shouldn't count on 850 access even with a new modem file.
I just moved from UK to NZ and was told my UK phone wouldn't support 850 from a hardware perspective. Don't know if that its true as I've never tried it, but check your phone before choosing that provider! The rest of the providers, all use 900 etc should be fine without any new files.
I ended up keeping my UK Galaxy S on the stock UK firmware (they get released quicker anyway!) and manually typed in the apn settings for my provider. (I just avoided the provider here that used 850.)
Hope this helps. Good luck with the move.
Mike
Garbled meaning induced by swype when posting from XDA app on SGS I9000.