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I'd really like to know if anyone has used an unlocked TMOUS HD2 in Asia or Europe and has been able to get 3g data. I've seen threads here saying that it will and will not work, but no one that has actually tried it.
xeebot said:
I'd really like to know if anyone has used an unlocked TMOUS HD2 in Asia or Europe and has been able to get 3g data. I've seen threads here saying that it will and will not work, but no one that has actually tried it.
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I'ved used Kaiser and Touch Pro in Japan with the same 2100MHz UMTS-Band I. If you don't understand the bands, then good luck.
NuShrike said:
I'ved used Kaiser and Touch Pro in Japan with the same 2100MHz UMTS-Band I. If you don't understand the bands, then good luck.
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I understand the bands. The confusion is that TMOUS uses 2100 up and 1700 down (or vice versa) for 3g, so some think that it can't handle the Euro and Asian 2100 up and down. There's no clear specs that I can see where 2100 is a standalone for up and down for 3g data.
I've read threads here from supposedly knowledgeable people saying that it can and can't work. That is why I'd like someone who has actually tried it rather than guesses and speculation.
I hope you're right and thanks for the info.
xeebot said:
I understand the bands. The confusion is that TMOUS uses 2100 up and 1700 down (or vice versa) for 3g, so some think that it can't handle the Euro and Asian 2100 up and down.
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I'm with you and I agree the labeling is somewhat inconsistent.
However, the consistency I've seen in any official docs, including the manual and FCC is if they list 1700 in the official specs, it's FDD-IV AWS (1700+2100), and if they list 2100, it's FDD-I (1900+2100).
In fact, there has never been any official docs that explicitly list what the up/down frequencies are so you can definitely take it as Band-I and Band IV.
Band-I can be used with most Asia/Euro carriers
I hope you guy's are right. I'll feel much better when someone actually uses a TMOUS HD2 in Europe or Asia with 3G an reports back.
xeebot said:
I'd really like to know if anyone has used an unlocked TMOUS HD2 in Asia or Europe and has been able to get 3g data. I've seen threads here saying that it will and will not work, but no one that has actually tried it.
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remember that the G1 works in europe fine with the 3g. us g1 has been used in europe so i don't see the HD2 being any different. if not call htc and tell them you will be traveling abroad with your HD2 and will it work in europe with 3g.
xeebot said:
I hope you guy's are right. I'll feel much better when someone actually uses a TMOUS HD2 in Europe or Asia with 3G an reports back.
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The first thing for me is unlock .... so that I can try with sim card from Asia carrier
84Gti Guy said:
remember that the G1 works in europe fine with the 3g. us g1 has been used in europe so i don't see the HD2 being any different. if not call htc and tell them you will be traveling abroad with your HD2 and will it work in europe with 3g.
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True, but I think the HD2 uses a different radio that is part of the Snapdragon chipset, I may be totaly wrong, but that's why I'm so dubious.
Good idea, I never thought of calling HTC. Although, I think I recall a post by someone doing that before the phone came out and the HTC rep just recited the supported bands instead of giving a definitive yes or no to 3g working in Asia/Europe. Nothing like real world use from someone actually doing it I suppose. Some of the reps at these companies know less than we do about their own products, lol. Either way a call to HTC can't hurt, thanks for the suggestion.
Titicaca said:
The first thing for me is unlock .... so that I can try with sim card from Asia carrier
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Please let us know how it works out for you. Thanks in advance.
My US T-Mobile HTC HD2 will arrive on Monday, I am from Philippines, I'll let you know if 3G will or will not work.
haydendo said:
My US T-Mobile HTC HD2 will arrive on Monday, I am from Philippines, I'll let you know if 3G will or will not work.
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Thank you. I'll be looking forward to hearing your response.
I called HTC customer support and the rep told me that Asia, Europe, and the US are on different "networks", so we will not receive 3g outside the US. I'm pretty sure the rep has no clue. To be honest, if the rep told me it would work I would still not feel relieved, they seem to not know the most basic of things about their products.
We'll just have to wait till someone here reports back.
Since US HD2 has band 1 and 4 UMTS, it'll surely work in Europe and Asia (except in band 8 area).
Hi,
my T-Mobile HD2 from the US works fine in Germany (Europe).
Hannes
Hannes_HD2 said:
Hi,
my T-Mobile HD2 from the US works fine in Germany (Europe).
Hannes
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Do you get 3G service?
I sent an email to HTC regarding 3G and this is what I got:
"Thank you for contacting HTC.
With reference to your query, normally HTC HD2 does support 3G network. However, since this is an US local customize phone, we would suggest you to contact with HTC US for double check. You can select the country for US to drop them an email to check that.
Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again. "
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Do you get 3G service?
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It works fine, so I guess thats a yes
Hannes_HD2 said:
It works fine, so I guess thats a yes
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Great news. Thanks for letting us know.
Any story now?
haydendo said:
My US T-Mobile HTC HD2 will arrive on Monday, I am from Philippines, I'll let you know if 3G will or will not work.
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My friend is still in waiting list for HD2 .... so are you OK with 3G in Asia?
any data connection problem?
i am also waiting for TMOUS HD2 and will let you know.
I am planning to buy a HD2 just to run android on it. I have the option to buy TMob HD2 (bigger RAM and ROM) and the HTC HD2 (smaller RAM and ROM).
Am sure that almost all the Android ROMs work on both phones. I just want to know, which of these runs android better?
I really like Desire HD but its currently very expensive here (~US$ 710) and I don't want to spend that much. whereas HD2 (both Tmob and HTC) is available for ~US$ 435. So am thinking of buying HD2.
hsnmz said:
I am planning to buy a HD2 just to run android on it. I have the option to buy TMob HD2 (bigger RAM and ROM) and the HTC HD2 (smaller RAM and ROM).
Am sure that almost all the Android ROMs work on both phones. I just want to know, which of these runs android better?
I really like Desire HD but its currently very expensive here (~US$ 710) and I don't want to spend that much. whereas HD2 (both Tmob and HTC) is available for ~US$ 435. So am thinking of buying HD2.
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If you're from the US, you should get a TMO HD2 for sure, they're the only ones you'll have 3G possibilities with, and you have more internal memory. EDIT: That's assuming you have TMO as provider. If you don't, you won't get 3G on your TMO phone.
If you live outside the US, you'll need an HTC (well, they're both HTC of course) if you want 3G, but you can still use a TMO for everything but 3G if you really like to have that 512mb extra internal memory (not the best choice if you ask me).
If you're Australian, I'm not really sure what you should do because I think they have an even different version.
StephanV said:
If you're from the US, you should get a TMO HD2 for sure, they're the only ones you'll have 3G possibilities with, and you have more internal memory. EDIT: That's assuming you have TMO as provider. If you don't, you won't get 3G on your TMO phone.
If you live outside the US, you'll need an HTC (well, they're both HTC of course) if you want 3G, but you can still use a TMO for everything but 3G if you really like to have that 512mb extra internal memory (not the best choice if you ask me).
If you're Australian, I'm not really sure what you should do because I think they have an even different version.
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not sure where ur from , if your from ASIA T mob is the deal coz u get 3G!!, well u can actualy gte one on XDA for as low as 250$
If you are in the US and have ATT, get the Telstra/Australia version as it has support for ATT's 850mhz 3g band I think. Just depends on where you're located and what carrier you have. I would go with the version that I could receive 3g service on.
Get TMOUS HD2
I don't know what you guys are thinkin but all hd2's are tmobile in america. so if your from another country than this question is legit but if your in america all hd2's are htc and tmobile branded.
sherlockpwnz said:
I don't know what you guys are thinkin but all hd2's are tmobile in america. so if your from another country than this question is legit but if your in america all hd2's are htc and tmobile branded.
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Yeah, but you can still order one from Australia, which will allow you to get 3g with at&t in USA.
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thanks for the suggestions guys. I am from Pakistan and there is no 3G here. my only concern is the performance of both variants. with more RAM and ROM, does TMO HD2 perform better as compared to the HTC HD2 while using android?
For Australian HD2 be aware the "Next G" version is model 9193 ( 850 - 2100mhz), you can still get the 8585 model that has different frequencies that are 900Mhz - 2100mhz. This is not great for Australia as there is the Next G network from Telstra (works well everywhere with minimum 3G but H in metro) and the 3G network (3G in metro areas and normal edge network elsewhere).
You need to check which model you are getting as there has been an influx of 8585 models available on ebay.
I'm in the US and had the Euro version of the HD2 several months before getting my TMUS phone. I tried every Winmo ROM available on both, finding no discernable difference in performance. I can't address any potential performance differences in Android however as I sold my Euro phone prior to Android builds being introduced.
hsnmz said:
thanks for the suggestions guys. I am from Pakistan and there is no 3G here. my only concern is the performance of both variants. with more RAM and ROM, does TMO HD2 perform better as compared to the HTC HD2 while using android?
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There will be no difference when running android. Only difference between phones is 3g radio and rom size. Rom size will give more storage space once android can be installed on rom, but there will be no difference in performance.
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zarathustrax said:
There will be no difference when running android. Only difference between phones is 3g radio and rom size. Rom size will give more storage space once android can be installed on rom, but there will be no difference in performance.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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thnks for the info. now I will get the one I find cheaper.
Hi all, we are at a very exciting moment for the history of this excellent smartphone.
I own a HD2 European version (originally from Spanish Vodafone), and I was wondering if you think it is worth selling it and buying the T-Mous 1Gb ROM version instead.
I come to you, asking if I would have any problems (incompatibility issues) by using the US HD2 in Belgium or any other European country.
Is the additional 512mb ROM worth changing? I found out that I could probably buy the US version for the same price I would sell the European one.
As I am not sure about any potential problems that the US HD2 might have, that is why I request your input.
Thank you all in advance for all your help.
are u out of your mind
you want to change your hd2 with another damn hd2
and you are asking whether is it worth doing it or not
if u want to change your hd2 then go and buy another cool phone
like hd7 or nexus s or anything but hd2
are you really enjoing winmo 6.5 on hd2
or buggy android builds
m2shakiba said:
are u out of your mind
you want to change your hd2 with another damn hd2
and you are asking whether is it worth doing it or not
if u want to change your hd2 then go and buy another cool phone
like hd7 or nexus s or anything but hd2
are you really enjoing winmo 6.5 on hd2
or buggy android builds
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Android builds work great on the HD2... and now we can run wp7 flawlessly. Soon we'll figure out a way to have both on our phones.
OP... since android builds most work now with apps2sd, having the extra 512mb rom isn't all that necessary. I would keep whatever HD2 gives you 3g reception in your area.
m2shakiba said:
are u out of your mind
you want to change your hd2 with another damn hd2
and you are asking whether is it worth doing it or not
if u want to change your hd2 then go and buy another cool phone
like hd7 or nexus s or anything but hd2
are you really enjoing winmo 6.5 on hd2
or buggy android builds
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I think you did not understand what I was asking. I have an European version HD2, this means that I only have 512 Mb ROM instead of the 1Gb ROM that comes with the T-Mous one.
As said by zarathustrax, there is a possibility of running both WP7 and Android from NAND, but for that you need space and 512Mb won't cut it.
As for the 3g, is it true that the US version is not compatible with the European network?
Johev said:
I think you did not understand what I was asking. I have an European version HD2, this means that I only have 512 Mb ROM instead of the 1Gb ROM that comes with the T-Mous one.
As said by zarathustrax, there is a possibility of running both WP7 and Android from NAND, but for that you need space and 512Mb won't cut it.
As for the 3g, is it true that the US version is not compatible with the European network?
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You can still use it as a phone and get 2g speeds on data, but for 3g the tmobile US HD2 only uses 1700/2100 for 3g... I don't think any carriers in europe use those band for 3g. Thats why US users can't take a european HD2 and get 3g in US. Phones are quadband for gsm, but for 3g, they only have 2 bands each model... that's why there's 3 different models of HD2s for different parts of the world.
Also, if you do get the t-mobile US version, you would have to sim-unlock it also to use on a different carrier.
zarathustrax said:
You can still use it as a phone and get 2g speeds on data, but for 3g the tmobile US HD2 only uses 1700/2100 for 3g... I don't think any carriers in europe use those band for 3g. Thats why US users can't take a european HD2 and get 3g in US. Phones are quadband for gsm, but for 3g, they only have 2 bands each model... that's why there's 3 different models of HD2s for different parts of the world.
Also, if you do get the t-mobile US version, you would have to sim-unlock it also to use on a different carrier.
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Thanks for the information, I have tanked you for this comment. I will keep my HD2 and find a way to partition the SD card in order to solve the problem and use both OS without needing to boot into one and run the other.
Regards.
Title says it all...
cracked the screen on my HD7, and bought a focus. So now I have AT&T, any way i can get the sim to work in my hd2?
thanks
ab
andybbtt11 said:
Title says it all...
cracked the screen on my HD7, and bought a focus. So now I have AT&T, any way i can get the sim to work in my hd2?
thanks
ab
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You should be able to use it on AT&T, but beware you will NOT get 3G on AT&T since TMO and AT&T use different spectrum for their 3G service.
Also make sure you set the right APN for your AT&T SIM....
if it doesn't work straight off then you will need to have your HD2 SIM unlocked by TMO (would probably have to be done from WM6.5 ROM), they might charge you 25 bucks to unlock though...
Cool, thanks for the response. I'll give it a shot once Mango is running on HD2. I am too spoiled to even bother until then. Focus with Mango is rockin' my world.
yes this is true
hey i wanna buy HD2 but i donnow if all the dev ( all the ROMS of android and WP7 ) for this phone supports the TMOB ver ?
ebay price of the HD2 EU its about 200$ +- for new
and price of the TMOB its 200$ +- for used ..
should i go for the TMOB or the EU ver ?
All Android and WP7 ROMs can be used on either the EU or the TMOUS HD2. But with the TMOUS you can not flash all Windows Mobile ROMs to it. If the Win Mo ROM has a radio version with a 51 in the third spot like this x.xx.51.xx then you can not flash it to a TMOUS or you will brick it. Also you can not flash a ROM with a radio version below 2.08.50.xx or it will brick a TMOUS.
T-Macgnolia said:
All Android and WP7 ROMs can be used on either the EU or the TMOUS HD2. But with the TMOUS you can not flash all Windows Mobile ROMs to it. If the Win Mo ROM has a radio version with a 51 in the third spot like this x.xx.51.xx then you can not flash it to a TMOUS or you will brick it. Also you can not flash a ROM with a radio version below 2.08.50.xx or it will brick a TMOUS.
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so ill better buy the EU ver less troubles .. TNX
shovelxxx said:
so ill better buy the EU ver less troubles .. TNX
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I think you misunderstood, the TMOUS isn't really any more trouble than the EU one. Nobody uses WinMo now anyway, and if you have a TMOUS HD2 you should never have to change the radio. I think the EU is still a better deal (TMOUS only has 512mb extra storage) but I just thought that that should probably be clarified.
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Buy a new EU HD2 if you can get it at the same price as a used TMOUS.
TMOB is better,because the new magldr will support two os in NAND,which need 1024 ROM space
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ljp1132719438 said:
TMOB is better,because the new magldr will support two os in NAND,which need 1024 ROM space
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That's the "new" magldr we've been hearing about for almost a year?
Please keep in mind HSDPA frequencies.
EU - 1700 / 2100
T-MO US - 900 / 2100
These may or may not matter, depending on where you live and your carrier.
bardzusny said:
Please keep in mind HSDPA frequencies.
EU - 1700 / 2100
T-MO US - 900 / 2100
These may or may not matter, depending on where you live and your carrier.
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Correction
Regular hd2 does 3g on 900+2100
Tmous hd2 does 3g on 1700+2100
bardzusny said:
Please keep in mind HSDPA frequencies.
EU - 1700 / 2100
T-MO US - 900 / 2100
These may or may not matter, depending on where you live and your carrier.
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them both or working at my country ...
samsamuel said:
That's the "new" magldr we've been hearing about for almost a year?
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For those who have been following the developments on the "new" MAGLDR it is coming closer and closer to being released and will have some capabilities that are well worth waiting for.
rlydiard said:
For those who have been following the developments on the "new" MAGLDR it is coming closer and closer to being released and will have some capabilities that are well worth waiting for.
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woot! woot!
i'll start to look for those Tmouse here :silly: