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i'm about to get my new desire HD from orange tomorrow and i thought i better ask for a little advice.
as i'm upgrading from a touch HD the android experience is totally new to me, so i was hoping for a few hints and tips as to how to get the best from my new phone and what apps are going to be most interesting.
cheers
I've recently done the same (moved from a Touch Pro2). Main differences over WM you will find....
* Improved stability
* Improved responsiveness and speed
* Android app market makes obtaining apps and wider range of apps much better
* Overall a much more pleasant experience to use
* Battery life will be worse, but you can tune the device to improve this a lot
* Integration with Microsoft products is not so great although does support multiple Exchange profiles
An HD2 immigrant here
First of all you need to get used to the different logic of the system. You probably had HTC Sense on ur touchHD and when you see that the Sence in DHD is similar it's a bit leading.
The hardest for me was getting used to the fact that the "All apps" button is not "Start" and just brings u to everything that's installed ( no rearangements, no folders, no renaming )
Then comes the battery life. DaveTME was right that it sucks, but thats (IMO) only do to the fact that by default, every service u have installed is syncing all the time. If u tweak ur sync settings a bit u should get close to what u had in THD.
For further references you may want to check this out -> http://androinica.com/category/androidguide/
good luck and welcome
ta for the reading matter guys
at the mo i just sync my phone with outlook on my PC to get its contacts, notes etc.
does android do this out of the box?? i'm assuming i need a PC client, but do i need an app??
sning said:
ta for the reading matter guys
at the mo i just sync my phone with outlook on my PC to get its contacts, notes etc.
does android do this out of the box?? i'm assuming i need a PC client, but do i need an app??
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This is exactly what I checked into before I made the jump from Nokia, where the Ovi Suite (PC Suite) would sync with Outlook. The HTC Sync SW supposedly does this but I had problems when I got the phone and, if you search about a bit, you'll find others have too.
What I did was to install HTC Sync anyway but also to install MyPhoneExplorer (... http://www.fjsoft.at/en/ ...). This installs on the PC and, as you surmised, on the phone. Works fine for me. I'm using XP Pro + Outlook 2000 (yeah, I know, behind the times but hey .... it all works!). MPE also has a forum where the developer is pretty responsive to issues.
I also sunc the calendars but use Gemini Calendar on the HD (search and ye shall find ... ). Much better than stock.
HTH.
Oh, and remember that Android is Google, which means they intend you to sync through the *cloud* and not to your PC. Especially with Microsoft's products, which is why you need to go 3rd party. When you get your DHD, before you do anything else, go into the menus and put everything on manual sync until you know what's happening. Or you'll end up with Facebook, Google and Uncle Tom Cobbly's contacts all on your phone ...
Download the manual from here .... http://www.htc.com/www/userguide.aspx?p_id=324 ...
Dave
sning said:
i'm about to get my new desire HD from orange tomorrow and i thought i better ask for a little advice.
as i'm upgrading from a touch HD the android experience is totally new to me, so i was hoping for a few hints and tips as to how to get the best from my new phone and what apps are going to be most interesting.
cheers
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Same, i got my dhd yesterday. I'd say you'll love. explore for yourself you'll enjoy it very much but to start off i suggest angry birds, google googles, and set up facebook etc etc.
is there anyways to see your folders in sd card on android like file explorer on wm?
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is there anyways to see your folders in sd card on android like file explorer on wm?
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OiFilemanager or AndExplorer should both do the job
another quick question, and i know this will sound totally dumb, but i have to ask.
do i NEED an google account to use this thing properly??
i dont use facebook or twitter or any other social media, so i'm happy to sync with outlook as its got all my contacts in up to date, and to be honest i'd rather not give google any more of my personal details thani have to!
Yes you need a google account. Aslo you can import your contacts into your google account and sync it to your phone.
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You do need a google account, but to be honest that is a good thing, the integration with Googles services is so tight. It provides the best email experience by a LONG way in my opinion, and the cloud features are fantastic.
Since switching to android i have also switched to a more "cloud" centric workspace, all my work is backed up to a cloud (2 actually!) and i keep copies of everything i need online aswell as on my PC so i can access it anywhere.
Its a shame you dont want to "submit" to google if you know what i mean, gmail is so, so slick.
*Spooky voice* It is the futuuuure!
I hope you enjoy your switch to android, i know i did!
J
unfortunatly i have an inherant distrust of "the cloud"
while i can see its benefits, i dont trust other people with my data, there's already been too many breaches, leaks, and lost data in the cloud for my liking
sning said:
unfortunatly i have an inherant distrust of "the cloud"
while i can see its benefits, i dont trust other people with my data, there's already been too many breaches, leaks, and lost data in the cloud for my liking
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I'm with you on this one! You do have to set-up a Google email account BUT mine is just forwarded to my *real* email address so never use it for anything. I *assume* you may need it to buy apps. from the market but I've only downloaded free ones so far. Oh, it's *compulsory* to download Angry Birds, BTW, free on Android ...
Dave
How can sync my Outlook infos with Google Calendar and Contacts?
Get a gmail account, best out there. Just don't save your contacts to gmail. I got hacked from China and everyone on my email list got a virus infested email. Lucky I found out very quickly and told everyone before any damage was done.
As to sync. I just use HTC Sync downloaded from HTC web site. Works a treat
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Oh by the way has Orange messed up the OS like they did with the touch hd? (made mine useless)
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Hi,
I want to get WP7 on my HD2. I'v read that there is no LIVE services unlesss you call MS to activate, which I understant not working very well these days...
What is missing with those live services?
If I don't have the marketplace, I understant that I can install XAPs via computer. Can I find any app as XAP? to what extent apps are eveilable as XAPs?
Thanks.
You can get every app out there, so Marketplace is not a must. If you live in an unsupported country that will be the only way to get paid apps anyway.
Hotmail can work without Live activation if you set it up manually. XBox Live is also not available although it's purpose is questionable
To put it short: WP7 is perfectly functioable without Live services. They are nice but not a must.
On another note: Try getting a key. Most ppl still get them easily.
It's true you don't need the activation services, but the operating system is much more fun and it backs your applications, calendar, emails etc.. up so you can easerly flash a new rom.
If you have a such easy possibility to get the key (you can either get it when you tell Microsoft that you have a HD2 but you have to catch a cool agent ) you should do it.
I have switched too and I am using it as OS now since a few months.
I don't want to live without my HD2/7.... ^^
Thanks guys!
Yes I live in an unsupported country (Israel), so it's comforting to hear that is not such a big deal (as I tought).
You said that LIVE is required for hotmail. I'm planning on setting the phone with both my work's Exchange, and Google Apps account, hopefully both with ActiveSync Push for Email\Contacts\Calendar, should I expect any problems with that?
I just tried setting up two exchange accounts (GMail and Hotmail) and they seem to be working alongside each other. Email, contacts and calendars sync.
Only tested for an hour or but so far so good.
Hi,
My HD2 is on WM 6.5.
I want to install a W7 rom on it but i have some questions before doing it.
How can i migrate my contacts ?my sms, my appointements?
The microsoft activation is obliged ?
Thanks
(sorry for my bad english)
First of all, its Windows Phone 7 and not Windows Mobile 7.
Your contacts can be imported from your SIM card if you have backed it up onto that, or Windows Phone also has the options to sync with your Gmail contacts and Windows Live Client and even Facebook contacts. SMS cannot be backed up but appointment's can likewise be synced with Outlook or from your Gmail account.
You only need the Microsoft activation if you want live services to be activated i.e, Marketplace, Zune and probably other stuff. I don't see the problem of going to Microsoft chat and politely asking for an activation code ... it takes probably 5 minutes at the most.
Give it a shot, Windows Phone is pretty fantastic and with the upcoming Mango update it'll be even better
I can second the Microsoft Chat for activation. It takes about 5min. Just tell them you have an HD7 that is asking for activation, your name, and number. You will have yourself a fully functional WP7 device. If you don't have it already, you might as well download ZUNE for pc (much easier to download apps and music).
Hello my friends. Thank you in advanced for any help/input you give.
Here's my thing.. I am an avid M$er (yes I know, but I get as much good from it as the bad). I'm a professional IT guy, and I run my home network on Enterprise lvl MS Server software and Windows on all PCs.
I have been using WinMo since the days of PPC, so I know the software. I decided to give WP7 a test run (even knowing the limitations) a couple months ago, and still am disappointed. Unfortunately I got stuck with it till now, because just after I installed it my personal Exchange server crashed. It's significant because it holds all of my contact info and schedule (for backup and retrieval when I change roms), so I had to wait till I had time and patience to recover the server and my database, which left me with my only current copy of info on the phone as it couldn't get pushed back to the server to store (I never put my info online so no uploading it wasn't an option for me).
Finally exchanger recovered, its time for me to be rid of this headache of a mobile OS and initially I was going to go back to my favorite HD2 WM6.5.3 rom, but when I finally visited the thread, I came back to realize my fav rom cooker is no longer developing for my device..
So I'm faced with the choices of still using the most current from my fav cooker, finding another WM cooker and get acquainted, or try out Android seriously for a little while at least (I've had it on SD from the beginning, but not definitively explored it).
My main thing is it has to connect to my servers. That's my bread and butter so to speak. I need it to connect to my Exchange and sync seamlessly contact and schedule (main things, but would definitely like as much sync as possible), but never upload my info to Google or anywhere else. So my first proviso is can it do that? (please remember I've never seriously explored Android for this intent), and can you provide info on it?
On remote desktopping and file sharing, like I said I have enterprise lvl servers so my network is high lvl security, can it connect to this kind of network (with certs from my CA)?
Third important thing to me, and one of the big reasons I dislike WP7, the interface. I'm in lust with HTC's sense from WM6.5 roms. Absolutely like it. Is there a way to at least mimic this sense? I've been missing the at-a-glance full screen weather updates soo much too.
Aside from those things, Android on HD2 already has a plus from me for having flash, my favorite IM program (Trillian), and the wifi calling (I live in an area where I don't get service till I'm miles from home).
So with those things in mind, can someone recommend Android to me, and possibly give me as much info as they can on the features that are most important to me? Again, I've played with Android, only a little (American Android currently), and mostly to help clients and friends out.
Thanks again for your help
DemonLoader ;-)
http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Support-Homepage/Android-Support/Microsoft+Exchange+Email
Thank you PresidentMcCain that is very favorable info. So my question is now, if I set Exchange up as primary email, then add my google account, will it try to sync my exchange contacts with google?
Have you looked at Appbrain website - you can explore all the apps on the market with a good description.
Im new to android (from long standing 6.5 use) and im extremly impressed, using sd method so i can fall back on 6.5 if i need it (), but it wont be long before its ditched.
You can choose specifically what or what not to sync with Google the first time when you boot up the ROM or in the Settings.
Using the "Email" app will not sync with Google servers unless you choose to forward your mail to your Gmail account (duh).
Thanks again. So what about calendar and other info synced with exchange, one note, sharepoint ect?
You can sync your contacts, tasks, messages and calendar from exchange (all of it, or you can choose which sections to sync), and it will never share it with Google for no reason (in fact you would have to explicitly copy the info yourself using import/export methods). It's worth noting that Google accounts themselves actually use exchange so both work similarly.
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Thanks kbm, I didn't know about the site. But that will be very helpful if I switch.
Thanks Atomix86, That puts to rest my questions about connecting and syncing with my exchanger. Very helpful info indeed.
Anyone have any thoughts about the rest?
DemonLoader said:
Thanks kbm, I didn't know about the site. But that will be very helpful if I switch.
Thanks Atomix86, That puts to rest my questions about connecting and syncing with my exchanger. Very helpful info indeed.
Anyone have any thoughts about the rest?
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No problem at all, let me know if you need any more help.
Looking at the link PresidentMcCain posted, I realized the info was for Exchange 2003 and 2007. Will this also help for connecting to Exchange 2010 as well? That is what my exchange server is, and remembering a friend who just got a Mytouch 4g recently was having a problem connecting to Exchange 2010 with the default app.
DemonLoader said:
Looking at the link PresidentMcCain posted, I realized the info was for Exchange 2003 and 2007. Will this also help for connecting to Exchange 2010 as well? That is what my exchange server is, and remembering a friend who just got a Mytouch 4g recently was having a problem connecting to Exchange 2010 with the default app.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179050
Maybe this might help. I read it this morning than came across this thread.
i dont know about exchange accounts. So if this is what you needed than its all good.
Thanks czarsuperstar, that app would help with note syncing, but looks like not for connecting to Exchange 2010 in general.
I was on winmo for a while and loved it to be honest but i went to sd android back in January an the google syncs convinced me and not long after i got nand and Ive not once looked back, i went back on winmo about a month ago just to see whats new etc and think i had it on for about 20 miutess before i flashed android straight back so its always worth a shot so id test the sd builds first to get your own opinion and then build on from there
Good luck and enjoy the future....
Not very good with the windows phone and am trying to help an older friend out that had a Nokia 710. He just purchased a HTC 8X and T-Mobile couldn't help him transfer his numbers and all. He had no idea about a windows live ID.
Sure, I could set him up a Windows LIve ID, but is there a way that we can bypass all of that and just plug his Nokia 710 into the computer and back it up, plug the 8X into the computer and upload all the information on it?
Thanks.
Reposting from the original thread:
On my nokia 710 one of the preinstalled apps is Contacts Transfer, I dont know if thats a microsoft thing, or if its nokia exclusive or if nokia have made it available on the app store (which they may have) but all it requires is both phones to have bluetooth on, then you set the old one to discoverable, follow the instructions. It seems to work pretty well with my ancient android handset.
I personally have all my contacts stored on my google account instead now, syncs more readily with more devices than the windows live account does.
There is no way to do a complete backup of WP7 except for a device image (which can only be restored on the exact same device it was taken from; even another one of identical model won't work). There are various homebrew apps that will let you get your files off, but currently we have no way to get them back *on* to WP8.
For contacts, synching to an Exchange server, Live account, Google account, or similar is definitely the best way. You can also try doing a transfer using BT, though. Nokia's Contacts Transfer app (which is just a Nokia-specific app, for all that it's pre-installed to the Setting hub) should work, but if you want to transfer the contacts en masse you may need a similar app on the other end. I don't know if HTC has one (Nokia and Samsung do, but my HTC HD7 did not). If you know how to use an intercepting proxy, you can access the Nokia- or Samsung-specific app stores and download their apps; that might (or might not, depending on how they are written) work.
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There is no way to do a complete backup of WP7 except for a device image (which can only be restored on the exact same device it was taken from; even another one of identical model won't work). There are various homebrew apps that will let you get your files off, but currently we have no way to get them back *on* to WP8.
For contacts, synching to an Exchange server, Live account, Google account, or similar is definitely the best way. You can also try doing a transfer using BT, though. Nokia's Contacts Transfer app (which is just a Nokia-specific app, for all that it's pre-installed to the Setting hub) should work, but if you want to transfer the contacts en masse you may need a similar app on the other end. I don't know if HTC has one (Nokia and Samsung do, but my HTC HD7 did not). If you know how to use an intercepting proxy, you can access the Nokia- or Samsung-specific app stores and download their apps; that might (or might not, depending on how they are written) work.
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He just primarily wants his email and phone numbers. His email is a @cox address though. Will the Windows Live backup let you do that? If so, I will just set him up a windows live id.
Yes, you can register any email address as a Microsoft (Windows Live) account, and synch contacts to and from it. You can do that even if you have the same email account also used as a "normal" (POP3/IMAP/SMTP) account. I'm very surprised he doesn't have one already; using WP without such an account is very limited (app store, Find My Phone, contacts and calendars, integrated IM, etc.).