Thinking about trading my DX for a DInc? - Droid X General

any reason i shouldn't?

LOL how ironic.
I have a DINC and thanks to its unlocked bootloader I am able to use it freely 100% on my network.
And on the other end, I am eagerly waiting for a miracle for someone to crack DX's bootloader so I can program it and have all its features such as EVDO.
It's a very good phone and don't blame you wanting a change, but nothing can beat that beautiful 4.3'' and HDMI port.
Just my 2 cents.

I was on the fence too. Theres a lot I like about both phones. The Inc has worse battery life and there are always the pro/cons of the smaller size.

DarkWolfx said:
LOL how ironic.
I have a DINC and thanks to its unlocked bootloader I am able to use it freely 100% on my network.
And on the other end, I am eagerly waiting for a miracle for someone to crack DX's bootloader so I can program it and have all its features such as EVDO.
It's a very good phone and don't blame you wanting a change, but nothing can beat that beautiful 4.3'' and HDMI port.
Just my 2 cents.
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screen size is the only thing i may miss.. i never use the hdmi out.
blockhead42 said:
I was on the fence too. Theres a lot I like about both phones. The Inc has worse battery life and there are always the pro/cons of the smaller size.
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i can just buy the same size battery as the DX and solve that problem.

and what about that processor on the dx? i couldnt imagine leaving that behind

I read that while the omap is speedier, they are definitely comparable.
How easy is it to restore a droid inc? Rsd lite for the droid x is the easiest thing ever..
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Does the inc have a magnetometer? If not would the new google maps work with it?
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any particular reason you are getting the Dinc? I mean over the X? I know that I was all worked up about "the bootloader" and no "real custom roms" and no "custom kernels", so I got the D1 (I know--not the same as the Dinc).
What I found out is that all that stuff really isn't all that big of deal. I have tried a couple of the great custom roms - Bugless Beast and Cyanogen. Both great. But not any better than Apex or Rubix (in my opinion). And custom kernels are a pain. the milestone overclock project allows you to overclock your Dx or d2 on the fly. with custom kernels you have to flash a new kernel anytime you want to change your clock speeds.
so anyways - I found out that the DX bootloader issue isn't that big of deal. just thought I would share some thoughts with you.

i have both the droid x and htc dinc and i agree the dinc has the WORST battery life ever! wtf for a small phone!! my droid x standard battery puts out more than this dinc but i like it all except for that and the screen isnt too bad. much crisper than droid x but not as nice for videos and taking photos. so not sure when i will switch back to my x but the dinc is fun to mess with but i for sure wouldnt get rid of my x completley for it thought! just my thoughts hope it helps!

thepolishguy said:
so anyways - I found out that the DX bootloader issue isn't that big of deal. just thought I would share some thoughts with you.
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Unfortunately for me it is, because the settings I need to stick; are locked because of the bootloader haha.

DarkWolfx said:
Unfortunately for me it is, because the settings I need to stick; are locked because of the bootloader haha.
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IF you are referring to OC setting they can/do stick through reboots, power up/down and all that jazz. They stick all the time thats what apply on boot is...

DarkWolfx said:
Unfortunately for me it is, because the settings I need to stick; are locked because of the bootloader haha.
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Well - it would have been easier to address whatever issue you are having if you had just come out with it and let us know what settings you need to be "stuck" that won't seem to "stick" bc of the bootloader.
care to elaborate?

Switch as quickly as possible I had a Droid incredible and switched to this piece of junk DroidX and am switching back now after five months. DroidX is a terrible phone. DroidX incredible with HTC sense awesome
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DarkWolfx said:
Unfortunately for me it is, because the settings I need to stick; are locked because of the bootloader haha.
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i agree the bootloader in the HTC is so so much better than the x!! dont know until u try it!

In the decision between DX & DInc, I believe it may just be like comparing apples to oranges. The DX has a larger screen, a better processor and 3 times the memory installed. It's not often (in my experience) that you get a free 16GB SD card included with your phone. With all these things going for the DX, I'm not sure if a comparison with the DInc is fair. If a person is willing to give all of that up for a DInc, then the reasoning has to be something extremely subjective (i.e. cosmetic appeal or something). The DInc is truly incredible, but not as incredible as the DX. (IMHO)

the 16gb card is going from the DX into the Inc so that is a moot point..
and yes cosmetic appeal is one aspect of my decision.

joebob296 said:
IF you are referring to OC setting they can/do stick through reboots, power up/down and all that jazz. They stick all the time thats what apply on boot is...
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Oh not the OC, I mean the carrier settings
thepolishguy said:
Well - it would have been easier to address whatever issue you are having if you had just come out with it and let us know what settings you need to be "stuck" that won't seem to "stick" bc of the bootloader.
care to elaborate?
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Sure I've been trying but it seems no one has bee able to help out.
I got all the MDN and MIN settings on the phone stuck, except the ones for 3G in MIP and PPP (UM and AN) tabs.
I have tried whiterabbit's NV items script, flashed them via CDMA workshop and settings got stuck, but the problem is I gotta edit other settings manually and again not sticking.
I can send you a link of the values I need exactly on the MIP and PPP (UM and AN) tabs so you can have a better idea.

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Gingerbread is here!

So...who wants to build the first 2.3 ROM? (Well...when the source code is released. )
that would be so exciting, gingerbread looks so refined. The keyboard screens I've seen look nearly identical to the iphone, and that is to date the best on-screen keyboard. I'm stoked.
Let's set the timer for htc, I wonder how long it will take them to push a sense version out? I hope to see the new sense from the desire and also a full bluetooth stack, im dreaming big but that's the reason for the season!
Come on guys!! I just came back to NY trusty ole dinc(from DC, fascinate) and can't wait. HTC Makes the most customizeable phones(don't use ****ty RFS filesystem Samsung uses) and they don't give u a ****ty source to work with and RIL dlfrom android 1.5( talking to you Samsung) this should be exciting!!!
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I figure that since essentially the incredible and the media one are the same phone it shouldn't be too terribly difficult to get a port this way. If I was smarter and could do this stuff is being all over it, good thing we have people who actually ARE that smart... lol. First dev to get it up and running will get a 24 pack from me, donation wise at least.
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This is probably a silly question, but can I not just download Gingerbread and install it, or do I *need* to get a customized HTC version?
You need the version made for your phone.. So yea the HTC versiob
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Anybody know if we are getting an official upgrade?. Or is this phone too old now lol.
Edit: just read the new features list. Oh man I just got really excited. Gyrosensor support, dual camera support, better keyboard, better power management, better 3d performance, Better copy/paste. I can't wait. I'd say 2.3 is on par with iOS now for some cool hardware
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It would be really nice if HTC supported the incredible, but I won't be surprised if it isn't. However there are a few reasons why we might get it (and they're all purely speculation):
1. Evo and Incredible run off very similar framework/hardware, would be two birds one stone sort of deal to help reinforce customer loyalty
2. The original Droid got froyo and that was almost a year after its release. We are in a similar situation and seeing how cool HTC is with updates we might get lucky.
3. Our hardware is still well within the requirements for gingerbread. As a matter of fact the Nexus S has a 1Ghz processor so there's no reason from a hardware standpoint NOT to do it.
Conversely, HTC did out a number of new devices (G2, MyTouch 4G, Desire Z etc) which might be a higher priority for them to get on gingerbread. Its hard to know for sure, but speculating is fun
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Div033 said:
It would be really nice if HTC supported the incredible, but I won't be surprised if it isn't. However there are a few reasons why we might get it (and they're all purely speculation):
1. Evo and Incredible run off very similar framework/hardware, would be two birds one stone sort of deal to help reinforce customer loyalty
2. The original Droid got froyo and that was almost a year after its release. We are in a similar situation and seeing how cool HTC is with updates we might get lucky.
3. Our hardware is still well within the requirements for gingerbread. As a matter of fact the Nexus S has a 1Ghz processor so there's no reason from a hardware standpoint NOT to do it.
Conversely, HTC did out a number of new devices (G2, MyTouch 4G, Desire Z etc) which might be a higher priority for them to get on gingerbread. Its hard to know for sure, but speculating is fun
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The Nexus One is getting Gingerbread today and the Incredible/Evo have almost identical hardware, so I say the odds are in our favor. If not, we will definitely get a port from the Nexus One or an AOSP build from one of our great developers.
alright i am a sickass noob! *cant express that enough* i mean it even took me like 5 min to find a way to post something on this *so yes this is my first time posting something*, i am just wondering if i am rooted *which i am* and a new update comes out, ei Ginger, how would that effect my phone if i clicked update? would it update my phone and i'd lose root? or would it simply brick my phone? real curious havent been able to find a plain answer anywhere
If u are stock rooted without having removed any of the factory bloatware then if u click update is will simply apply the.update and you will not be rootes anymore. Wala
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You can get the Gingerbread keyboard on your incredible now. Just installed on mine.. Its sexy looking. I got it here:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/12/06/download-gingerbread-keyboard-for-rooted-devices/
Really liking the new keyboard. I've not been a fan of any 3rd party keyboards (I'm still using the HTC one), but this may replace it. The only problem with it right now is the autocorrect doesn't work right. Don't want to send a bunch of messed up messages to folks.
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Really liking the new keyboard. I've not been a fan of any 3rd party keyboards (I'm still using the HTC one), but this may replace it. The only problem with it right now is the autocorrect doesn't work right. Don't want to send a bunch of messed up messages to folks.
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in my expierence, the auto correct screws everything up worse. I alwasy turn it off anyway.
derickmc said:
in my expierence, the auto correct screws everything up worse. I alwasy turn it off anyway.
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Many times it does, but I find it fixes common typos pretty well. The main thing I hate about the HTC keyboard is the autocorrect... I'm NOT a fan of it just popping up there and then it being difficult to get it off the screen or saving a bad spelling in the dictionary. I guess that could be reason enough to turn it off though... lol.
According to the video on the nexxus s site its not just autocorrect but autolearn and correct so the auto correct adapts to the user better thus eliminating the usual hatred for most autocorrects. So far is learning me quiet well.
Here is a flashable of the gingerbread keyboard...
Should work on all roms
http://www.mediafire.com/?vb99fdtbctuy7xc
derickmc said:
You can get the Gingerbread keyboard on your incredible now. Just installed on mine.. Its sexy looking. I got it here:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/12/06/download-gingerbread-keyboard-for-rooted-devices/
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i get fcs when i enable the keyboard,what do i need to remove or whatever to get it working
sneaky_zekey said:
i get fcs when i enable the keyboard,what do i need to remove or whatever to get it working
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Are you running a Desire Z ROM? I am and I get a FC whenever i try to run an alternate keyboard I flashed over.
Fixes anyone? Hit me up if you need more info.

Xoom Honeycomb Development

Honeycomb is going to be awesome!
off course
If they lock the bootloader down like they did the Droid X Motorola can keep it.
I hope to see custom rom, but affraid that there wil be a lock
painter_ said:
If they lock the bootloader down like they did the Droid X Motorola can keep it.
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I'm hoping that the Tegra 2 doesn't have the eFuse lock either.
I'm hoping that because Google is involved from the outset, like the Nexus phones, that this will be considered a dev device as well as a kick ass consumer product. But as a former Milestone owner, I'm going to be very wary of it nonetheless.
Moto just doesn't understand open.
It's sad what they did with the bootloader on the new line of Droid and the milestone. As my Droid one was so easy to hack it wasn't funny. But there really isn't to much I can do with my x. Although out of the box with a little adw ex my x is sweet. Although not quite like the ole incredible with miui
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i actually got to play with the prototype 2day but i didnt stop to think about the bootloader but its still f-ing awesome
adub007 said:
i actually got to play with the prototype 2day but i didnt stop to think about the bootloader but its still f-ing awesome
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Where'd you get to play with it? Care to elaborate a little more than its "f-ing awesome"?
adub007 said:
i actually got to play with the prototype 2day but i didnt stop to think about the bootloader but its still f-ing awesome
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Um... You're supposed to prove these wild statements somehow, right? I played with HTC's new tablet last week, but forgot to take a picture of it too. Or was it that they confiscated my Dinc and unrooted it after they saw I tethered it for upload the video i took of myself on it's 400 million megapixel ffc? Get the point? I like you, just not that much.
And what the hell does playing with the device have to do with the boot loader? I'm pretty sure you will need a USB cable and at least an incredible to root it, aren't you?
I def understand where your coming from but i got to test the devices cause the motorola rep for my district came to my job with it.
And i had the physical devices in my hands so in theory i would've been able to test the bootloader
No i don't have pictures of me holding the devices so all i have is my word, believe me or not i got to demo it, i guess the next time he comes with the bionic i'll make sure to sneak a picture for hard proof
dadajack said:
Um... You're supposed to prove these wild statements somehow, right? I played with HTC's new tablet last week, but forgot to take a picture of it too. Or was it that they confiscated my Dinc and unrooted it after they saw I tethered it for upload the video i took of myself on it's 400 million megapixel ffc? Get the point? I like you, just not that much.
And what the hell does playing with the device have to do with the boot loader? I'm pretty sure you will need a USB cable and at least an incredible to root it, aren't you?
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Did you heard that it will cost about 799$???
It's too much!!!
raptor92 said:
Did you heard that it will cost about 799$???
It's too much!!!
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Engadget is reporting that the price at Best Buy will be 699.99, which is a marked improvement over the 800 that has been making waves. That makes it much more reasonable, but I want to know about the bootloader (aka is it locked) before I buy it.
cslawren said:
Engadget is reporting that the price at Best Buy will be 699.99, which is a marked improvement over the 800 that has been making waves. That makes it much more reasonable, but I want to know about the bootloader (aka is it locked) before I buy it.
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Still is alot.....i could see the $450-500 range and this would def be a competitor for, well any tablet out there!
I just went to Motorola's FB page. I don't think it's a bad idea to start asking them to unlock their boot loaders. Maybe if enough people tell them they want it unlocked they'll start unlocking them. I see no way it can hurt.
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zillahakzor said:
I just went to Motorola's FB page. I don't think it's a bad idea to start asking them to unlock their boot loaders. Maybe if enough people tell them they want it unlocked they'll start unlocking them. I see no way it can hurt.
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I'm up for that!
zillahakzor said:
I just went to Motorola's FB page. I don't think it's a bad idea to start asking them to unlock their boot loaders. Maybe if enough people tell them they want it unlocked they'll start unlocking them. I see no way it can hurt.
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Good idea.
[Motorola's FB page]
Let's do it.
Comment on any/all of their wall posts.
//Edit: you have to "Like" them to post wall comments...
Kov695 said:
Still is alot.....i could see the $450-500 range and this would def be a competitor for, well any tablet out there!
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At that price, it would be way to cheap. We're talking about state of the art tech that completely knocks the winds out of the highest price iPad ($799-$849).
Even though I'd love to buy it for $450, I'd be worried why is was so cheap.... $699 is OK. If I had to wish a reasonable price, I'd say $599.
Damn I was just getting lots of schemes to buy one with my tax money, then you guys have to mention the bootloader!
It might be too late for the Xoom Facebook spam plan though. If its going to launch in a couple weeks they are probably already making them.
Anybody know if any Dev's have said they are definitely going to develop for it yet?
The xoom looks very cool.
but i will not buy this if moto locked the bootloader.

Why all the Atrix hate?

Hi everyone!
Long time browser of these forums, but decided to join since I switched from my Iphone 3gs to the Atrix 4g.
Just a question, why so much hate for this phone? Maybe I'm totally in love due to the fact that I'm discovering my freedom on Android (well most of it do to moto/att locking some stuff) but I still think the phone is wonderful.
The only issue is I agree about the screen not being amazing like some of the other Android phones I've seen, but regardless next to my friends G2 and my girlfriends Inspire, my phone is blazing fast, has a pretty good battery (new toy syndrom I'm using it like a monster and It still has not died by the night time start at 8/9am put back in charger about 1/2am with 20% left) and the camera is fine for a smartphone.
I guess it just seems like a lot of hate and I'm wondering if I'm missing something that I should be aware of?
Take care and I hope to be more active in this awesome community.
MrSexyMan
we want everything to be perfect, thats how we are.
ronan_zj said:
we want everything to be perfect, thats how we are.
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Yep. That's the way it is. If you have had tried Inspire, you would love HTC more.
Well I for one really appreciate all the hate, it is great!
It saves me money.
I too am looking for the perfect phone the one that will change my life. Something amazing and spectacular.
The Atrix really looked amazing at first but now that people have it in hand, it seems a little...meh.
smitty1 said:
Well I for one really appreciate all the hate, it is great!
It saves me money.
I too am looking for the perfect phone the one that will change my life. Something amazing and spectacular.
The Atrix really looked amazing at first but now that people have it in hand, it seems a little...meh.
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Most people take the time to post "meh", but many more dont post the "ahhh". We all know this. Go to ANY forum whether it be Android, Apple or Blackberry and you'll see plenty of "meh" in each.
The smart thing to do is sit back and wait for a few patches to hit or buy a phone that's been in the market for some time and has all the things smoothed out.
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I too am looking for the perfect phone the one that will change my life. Something amazing and spectacular.
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What phone has ever fit that description?
dlazer said:
What phone has ever fit that description?
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If you ask all the sheep in the world, it's the iPhone.... with the more GB's.... and the WiFi's
When you go to Inspire forum, u will see how ppl hate Atrix, they feel the Atrix is ****, cheap, ect. ect..
ill admit that i am trolling this site to get some of the feedback on the atrix. i for one would have thought it would have kicked as5 (meaning better reviews). i like reading the the good and bad remarks from users here. i applaude some of the honesty/personal opinions of people who like and didnt like it.
Cause many people (including myself) are from some previous flagship Android phones. While Atrix 4G is been described as "Revolutionary" product, some features are degraded due to Tegra2/Moto. This is where the disappointment come from.
The things that are holding me back
are the Moto blur and the locked down boot loader.
I still have my captivate but I'm itching to move up to the new dual cores. And I got sucked in with Atrix by the lap top dock. That turned out to be a real downer, 500$ for a monitor keyboard and a mouse....what are you insane?
I will wait it out and keep my captivate, maybe the galaxy s2 will make its way over here, and before it does I can read the board and see how people like it over their in Euro Disney.
The ability of running roms really came in handy on the captivate, since I have been running froyo for a long time.
I came from the captivate which sucks...slow and short on memory. The atrix is amazing in every respect. People who think otherwise don’t know how to use it.
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smitty1 said:
The things that are holding me back
are the Moto blur and the locked down boot loader.
I still have my captivate but I'm itching to move up to the new dual cores. And I got sucked in with Atrix by the lap top dock. That turned out to be a real downer, 500$ for a monitor keyboard and a mouse....what are you insane?
I will wait it out and keep my captivate, maybe the galaxy s2 will make its way over here, and before it does I can read the board and see how people like it over their in Euro Disney.
The ability of running roms really came in handy on the captivate, since I have been running froyo for a long time.
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Coming from someone who knows moto and their locked boot loaders (I own a Droid X), I can say it doesn't pose a problem. The dev. community is very creative and found ways arround it. I'm sure the same will happen to the Atrix.
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Coming from someone who knows moto and their locked boot loaders (I own a Droid X), I can say it doesn't pose a problem. The dev. community is very creative and found ways arround it. I'm sure the same will happen to the Atrix.
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Yeah, but by the time it happens, if it happens, there'll be other offerings at the table (Samsung, LG, HTC).
All of which will be more mod friendly, and don't come locked with motoblur *shudders*
panflute said:
I came from the captivate which sucks...slow and short on memory. The atrix is amazing in every respect. People who think otherwise don’t know how to use it.
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How is 512mb "short on memory"
panflute said:
I came from the captivate which sucks...slow and short on memory. The atrix is amazing in every respect. People who think otherwise don’t know how to use it.
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You don't know how to use captivate. Captivate is only slightly slower than Atrix 4G.
elementaldragon said:
If you ask all the sheep in the world, it's the iPhone.... with the more GB's.... and the WiFi's
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lmao... "I don't care." "I want the white one."
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You don't know how to use captivate. Captivate is only slightly slower than Atrix 4G.
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Out of all phones I've owned the Captivate has been the most laggy. You shouldn't have to worry about undoing and redoing a lag-fix every time you want to install a new rom. The Captivate is an amazing device don't get me wrong. However the short time I've had the Atrix I've been very impressed. 2800 Quadrant on a stock phone? 37-38 Linpack?? NUTS! I'm sure that could change as I'm not sure if quadrant is optimized for Dual Core. But I've noticed absolutely no lag, the accessories are amazing, the screen is super sharp(although I think I still prefer my Nexus S screen ATM so far..) and hopefully we will be able to get a dual root (Android OS and Webtop) someday =) IMO Moto has done well bringing the first dual core to the states. The only perfect phone I've ever had was my N1, the Atrix isn't perfect but it is one of the best (most definitely the fastest) phone on the market.
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When you go to Inspire forum, u will see how ppl hate Atrix, they feel the Atrix is ****, cheap, ect. ect..
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Well isn't that the case on every forum? No different with Inspire/iPhone/Atrix users.
We all hate what we don't have and excessively praise what we have.
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Well isn't that the case on every forum? No different with Inspire/iPhone/Atrix users.
We all hate what we don't have and excessively praise what we have.
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I agree. We are chasing perfection.

Atrix coming to Sprint?

http://androidandme.com/2011/03/car...trix-and-xoom-headed-to-sprint-4g-next-month/
Monster hardware - pretty much the best there is on any platform, but locked down software...
If it comes with Sprint ID (AOSP-y + easily replaceable Launcher) I might be in.
Moto + locked bootloader = fail
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who cares about the locked bootloader. The phone is amazing without the need to root it.
I switched over to the Atrix for while before swapping it for an Inspire. I still have an Evo as well and follow this thread to keep up with whats going on. But anyways from using the Atrix for about 2 weeks, I can tell you that it's not all what it's cracked out to be. It is somewhat a snappy device and yes it's dual core, but it only uses 1 core. The 2nd core is used when using webtop I believe. At least that's how I understood it when it was posted in the Atrix forums.
The build quality is nowhere near the Evo or the Inspire for that matter, however, it does feel good in the hands. It's very lightweight when compared to the Evo and the Inspire and it has like a cheap feeling to it.
The screen on the Atrix is very vivid...I think they call the screen qHD or something like that, but it's nice. The super lcd that the Inspire has is a lot better in my opinion...but that's just me.
The battery is where the Atrix excels. I was getting about 15 hours on one charge and that's without overclocking and roms. The Atrix has the best battery when it comes to Android.
The two main reasons I swapped my Atrix for a Inspire is the bootloader was locked and motoblur slows the phone down a lot. The new sense on the inspire is Boss! It's smooth as heck with no lag.
But to each their own. I for one will not be getting this device unless the bootloader is unlocked so that I can hopefully flash a rom that removes motoblur.
Eh I'd rather have the EVO 3d/dual core.
HTC>Moto/samsux
Obviously I do which is why it's a fail.....I only speak for myself but obviously other people care ad well.
Last-Chance said:
who cares about the locked bootloader. The phone is amazing without the need to root it.
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I wouldn't get it; you can't even install outside market apps without rooting it(it doesn't even have the option to uncheck unknown sources). Fail
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dirkyd3rk said:
I wouldn't get it; you can't even install outside market apps without rooting it(it doesn't even have the option to uncheck unknown sources). Fail
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I think that the inability to install outside apps is a Motorola problem but an ATT problem. The reason I say this is because the Inspire also lacked the ability to install outside apps. That was before I rooted it. Which by the way, just like the Inspire, if you root the Atrix you can install outside apps as well.
Last-Chance said:
who cares about the locked bootloader. The phone is amazing without the need to root it.
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Have fun with that if this supposed Sprint version runs Blur. Androidcentral just reviewed the AT&T version and talked about how blur duplicated a bunch of their contacts and generally was a pain in the ass.
i won't buy a phone that has the bootloader locked tighter than a virgin on prom night.
fixxxer2008 said:
i won't buy a phone that has the bootloader locked tighter than a virgin on prom night.
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In high school I went to 5 diff proms with 5 diff chicks; only got laid on 1 of them :-( lol
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dirkyd3rk said:
In high school I went to 5 diff proms with 5 diff chicks; only got laid on 1 of them :-( lol
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Funny as hell....lol....you got me cracking up here at work
fixxxer2008 said:
i won't buy a phone that has the bootloader locked tighter than a virgin on prom night.
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I agree. It's a nice phone and works well with the laptop dock(at least from what i saw at a local AT&T display) but like plmiller says, it just feels cheap. Almost like the plastic is lesser quality and all the screws aren't tightened down.
Last-Chance said:
who cares about the locked bootloader. The phone is amazing without the need to root it.
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Locked boot loader = lucky to get 2.3 while new cm gives my evo icecream.
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.
I can't get excited about a phone with a locked bootloader no matter how cool it is.
OgremustCrush said:
Have fun with that if this supposed Sprint version runs Blur. Androidcentral just reviewed the AT&T version and talked about how blur duplicated a bunch of their contacts and generally was a pain in the ass.
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or i can just install launcher pro....
Last-Chance said:
or i can just install launcher pro....
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Launcherpro doesn't eliminate blur... there's more to it than a launcher and widgets.
Rippley05 said:
Launcherpro doesn't eliminate blur... there's more to it than a launcher and widgets.
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the blur interface sucks as much as touchwiz.
fixxxer2008 said:
the blur interface sucks as much as touchwiz.
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Jesez, that is prolly the most harsh android insult out there. Touchwiz looks like it was made with crayons, complete with lockscreen that includes placing a freakin puzzle piece.. yuck
Rippley05 said:
Jesez, that is prolly the most harsh android insult out there. Touchwiz looks like it was made with crayons, complete with lockscreen that includes placing a freakin puzzle piece.. yuck
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meh... i only use launcherpro now.

[Q] Is this phone worth upgrading from the HD7?

I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.
the atrix is the fastest phone you will use ONCE you install another launcher. This would definitely be an upgrade.
The people complaining, are generally irked by the bootloader being locked (which will hopefully be fixed soon) and therefore are harder on the phone.
blunted09 said:
the atrix is the fastest phone you will use ONCE you install another launcher. This would definitely be an upgrade.
The people complaining, are generally irked by the bootloader being locked (which will hopefully be fixed soon) and therefore are harder on the phone.
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Yeah, thats what i heard. i actually kinda like motoblur (just cause looks) Id install sense on it asap though lol. i havent used android in a long time, since mytouch 4g was released and i just got annoyed of its problems. the new sense looks amazing though. my phone never lags "ever" because of how light wp7 is. just want something new thanks btw!
stratax said:
I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.
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I returned the Atrix yesterday. I really liked it, very fast and an amazing battery, but I had issues with it. My main issue was voice quality. Every single person I spoke to had trouble hearing me. I also didn't like the camera, pictures didn't look good in my opinion. Also, had issues with gps not responding properly from time to time, but I think that was just an issue with my unit not all Atrix phones. Now I'm waiting a week or 2 to see if I get the Infuse 4G, that phone sounds sick!!
stratax said:
I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.
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I come from a HD2 with both android and WP7 installed.
i can honestly say that the Atrix is really good upgrade. the HD2 and HD7 are the samething just software wise is where the change happens. i would do it if i where you... i did actually.
sal2708 said:
I come from a HD2 with both android and WP7 installed.
i can honestly say that the Atrix is really good upgrade. the HD2 and HD7 are the samething just software wise is where the change happens. i would do it if i where you... i did actually.
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Alright, thank you. This is what i will most likely be doing. then end up trying to trade the atrix for the sensation lol.
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stratax said:
Alright, thank you. This is what i will most likely be doing. then end up trying to trade the atrix for the sensation lol.
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Correction to my statement. Get the infuse. I returned the Atrix. Realized its a bad phone. Infuse!
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stratax said:
Yeah, thats what i heard. i actually kinda like motoblur (just cause looks) Id install sense on it asap though lol. i havent used android in a long time, since mytouch 4g was released and i just got annoyed of its problems. the new sense looks amazing though. my phone never lags "ever" because of how light wp7 is. just want something new thanks btw!
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just because no one else caught it, you can't install sense on this phone. Sense is HTC's version of motoBlur. Since this is a motorola phone, no sense. you can make it look like sense by installing launcherPro and skinning it, but that's about it.
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just because no one else caught it, you can't install sense on this phone. Sense is HTC's version of motoBlur. Since this is a motorola phone, no sense. you can make it look like sense by installing launcherPro and skinning it, but that's about it.
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Im pretty sure someone could port it.. people have ported droid X rom to the Mytouch 4G lol. so why not other way around? eVil D probably could. I know they have their own skins, thats the point of porting though..
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Correction to my statement. Get the infuse. I returned the Atrix. Realized its a bad phone. Infuse!
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The infuse is a downgrade from the galaxy S 2. single core vs dual, and bigger screen which i dont want. why did you return your atrix?
If you got bored with your hd7 then you'll get bored of the Atrix really fast. Poor developement due to locked botloader makes for a very boring device. We're also totaly at motos mercy for fixing broken features wbich they' ve do.e a terrible job of so far. I' d trade my Atrix for an hd2 in a second.
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The infuse is a downgrade from the galaxy S 2. single core vs dual, and bigger screen which i dont want. why did you return your atrix?
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To much lag. Waking up from sleep. And really when it comes to a day to day use unless your going to be using the lapdock as your own personal computer every day dual core isnt really needed
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dont listen to these two.
And so you know, if you check teh sgs2 forums there is a discussion of selling the sgs2 and buying the atrix. these guys have had both.
DO NOT LISTEN TO EXADOR.
sal2708 said:
To much lag. Waking up from sleep. And really when it comes to a day to day use unless your going to be using the lapdock as your own personal computer every day dual core isnt really needed
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yeah but think about how much other moto devices lagged with motoblur 2.1/2.2. the droid x did horrible, and it has the new moto blur now and it runs amazing, im sure this will run amazing as well with update.
Exador said:
If you got bored with your hd7 then you'll get bored of the Atrix really fast. Poor developement due to locked botloader makes for a very boring device. We're also totaly at motos mercy for fixing broken features wbich they' ve do.e a terrible job of so far. I' d trade my Atrix for an hd2 in a second.
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really depends. i had the mytouch slide before it was unlocked and it was fine.. makes porting harder and stuff. broken features? like what?
blunted09 said:
dont listen to these two.
And so you know, if you check teh sgs2 forums there is a discussion of selling the sgs2 and buying the atrix. these guys have had both.
DO NOT LISTEN TO EXADOR.
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Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.
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Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.
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Yeah... deblur right off the bat. Don't hold your breath on miui tho
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i came from a HD7. i love my atrix >>>>>>>> the hd7
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Im pretty sure someone could port it.. people have ported droid X rom to the Mytouch 4G lol. so why not other way around? eVil D probably could. I know they have their own skins, thats the point of porting though..
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stratax said:
Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.
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Lets go over this once. Sense, MotoBlur, TouchWiz, they are not just skins. They are woven into the android build by the respective manufacturers. To port to this phone you would need the ability to flash custom roms, which you can't do on the atrix. Yes there are a few like gingerblur, but those really aren't custom, just tweaked and skinned. Until motorola unlocks the bootloader (don't hold your breath that the devs will ever figure it out), there is no hope. This is why you probably won't see MIUI either.
getting past that, has there ever been a sense port for a non-htc phone? No HTC phone has had the same hardware as the atrix, so i'm betting it's hard to impossible.
not trying to be an ass, just making sure you understand. This is an awesome phone, just don't come in expecting all the openness of old HTC phones.

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