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Is there currently a working emulator for either of these operating systems available for windows mobile 6?
I've tried searching all I can and have found no answers yet.
HAHAHAHAHahahahah.... ah, but seriously, no.
TylerC161 said:
Is there currently a working emulator for either of these operating systems available for windows mobile 6?
I've tried searching all I can and have found no answers yet.
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Do you realize thats the equivalent of asking if my pc can emulate a cray mainframe? Running one windows 95 program would use up all the memory and cpu your entire phone has and then some.
Don't make the mistake of thinking a 200mhz arm processor = 200mhz pentium..the pentium is 1000 times faster and keep in mind the average phone has 20-30 meg of memory...the average pc...ok..even a dog old pentium 150 typically had 128 meg of ram available.
Now do you see why the first poster is laughing at you?
famewolf said:
Do you realize thats the equivalent of asking if my pc can emulate a cray mainframe? Running one windows 95 program would use up all the memory and cpu your entire phone has and then some.
Don't make the mistake of thinking a 200mhz arm processor = 200mhz pentium..the pentium is 1000 times faster and keep in mind the average phone has 20-30 meg of memory...the average pc...ok..even a dog old pentium 150 typically had 128 meg of ram available.
Now do you see why the first poster is laughing at you?
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I had a pentium 90 with 16mb ram.
but anyway, I've seen someone running windows 95 on a pocket pc
http://www.pocketgamer.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3660
dont know if it works on wm6 but it looks like you need a large storage card, a lot of patience, a great cpu, lots of memory and a vga screen at least.
good luck
Its not so hard to believe is it?
I had it running on my PSP, so why not my ppc?
Okay, well in that case, whats the best software to access your PC through the internet on your ppc? I used to have this software that worked via wifi for my PSP that would let me operate my windows machine with the psp, but I cant remember its name, and thats not QUITE what im looking for. I want one that will work NON wifi as well
you can use pocketdos or dosbox with bochs plugin to make win95 work. Nevertheless you wont get any decent speed on it.
TylerC161 said:
Its not so hard to believe is it?
Okay, well in that case, whats the best software to access your PC through the internet on your ppc? I used to have this software that worked via wifi for my PSP that would let me operate my windows machine with the psp, but I cant remember its name, and thats not QUITE what im looking for. I want one that will work NON wifi as well
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You are probably referring to VNC and there are plenty of clients that run on ppc.
LlamaV3 said:
I had a pentium 90 with 16mb ram.
but anyway, I've seen someone running windows 95 on a pocket pc
http://www.pocketgamer.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3660
dont know if it works on wm6 but it looks like you need a large storage card, a lot of patience, a great cpu, lots of memory and a vga screen at least.
good luck
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Yep and your gonna trash the storage card in a short amount of time due to all the read/writes since it's basically using it as a huge swapfile.
there's the emulator of win32-x86 for win32-arm platform. it called wow86 and developed by GreateVK. it is not ready-to-use product yet. but it successfully run some (even simple) x86-applications without modifications.
p.s. wow86 and applications should be placed into the root folder of your device
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Don't make the mistake of thinking a 200mhz arm processor = 200mhz pentium..
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the PSP has a lesser speed MIPS processor than some of the available ppc's today.
MIPS being the old one we don't use anymore.
and look at what IT can do, without anything but that to run it's games.
and take a look at the NEC MobilePro 900C.
it has an Intel PXA255 400MHz processor, and runs windows ce .net 4.2.
which basically has the same interface as windows xp with classic skins and does alot of the same things (e.g. the full desktop ms office apps).
i think we underestimate the possibility of today's pxa270 624mhz processors and the mobile graphics chips.
but yer, pocketdos and the likes have shown to run windows 95 and 98.
if they were more optimized it could be a possibility to run basic apps and find a way to convert the instruction set to run more complicated apps.
"(e.g. the full desktop ms office apps)."
maybe more full then the office mobile
but i doubt ms would ever compile a full office
nor a full windows for the arm based instructionset
the asm codes are not the same
all the software needs a full recompile to work
unless a full emulator is being used
the maintaince expenses for ms to make something like that
would be staggering
when ms first made windows CE all devices which had CE had the same GUI as NEC MobilePro 900C
but nobody was buying the devices people pref'd the palm way of operating their pda's
so ms made pocketpc series
this was not a step down it was a step besides
CE is not any closer to real windows then pocketpc series it's just different
it's the same core it's the same everything but imput and gui
chrismrulz said:
the PSP has a lesser speed MIPS processor than some of the available ppc's today.
MIPS being the old one we don't use anymore.
and look at what IT can do, without anything but that to run it's games.
and take a look at the NEC MobilePro 900C.
it has an Intel PXA255 400MHz processor, and runs windows ce .net 4.2.
which basically has the same interface as windows xp with classic skins and does alot of the same things (e.g. the full desktop ms office apps).
i think we underestimate the possibility of today's pxa270 624mhz processors and the mobile graphics chips.
but yer, pocketdos and the likes have shown to run windows 95 and 98.
if they were more optimized it could be a possibility to run basic apps and find a way to convert the instruction set to run more complicated apps.
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All very true..but the person asking has a tmobile wing which is a 200 mhz arm chip. The low end of the spectrum (I should know as I have the MDA which is the same chip) and it's gonna run a PC emulator like that CRAPPY as all get out. It has a hard enough time emulating a gameboy. Also in the end would still be easier to "optimize" the code into a ppc version then to try to run bloated regular windows programs where they stopped caring about resources a long time ago.
Rudegar said:
"(e.g. the full desktop ms office apps)."
maybe more full then the office mobile
but i doubt ms would ever compile a full office
nor a full windows for the arm based instructionset
the asm codes are not the same
all the software needs a full recompile to work
unless a full emulator is being used
the maintaince expenses for ms to make something like that
would be staggering
when ms first made windows CE all devices which had CE had the same GUI as NEC MobilePro 900C
but nobody was buying the devices people pref'd the palm way of operating their pda's
so ms made pocketpc series
this was not a step down it was a step besides
CE is not any closer to real windows then pocketpc series it's just different
it's the same core it's the same everything but imput and gui
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If you want the full version of MS Office, you can try porting Open Office (http://www.openoffice.org or http://porting.openoffice.org) to Windows Mobile. I'm sure a lot of us here at XDA-Developers would like to see that happen.
i guess that it would be easier to compile it for linux on our phones
being that i think the wm win32 stk is more limited then linux is terms
of which components are alowed
Hi There,
I'm thinking about starting to develop in VMWare to keep my OS clean where my development is being performed. Has anyone here used VMWare to develop in? Has there been any problems?
Thanks.
I am in the process of setting it up now. You do need a grunty machine with lots of ram but otherwise it is pretty straight forward.
Use the lightest os you can for the guest os. Ie windows 2000 or xp, not vista unless you really need it.
What dev environment are you using?
A couple of guys at my work have XP running in a VMware client in Ubuntu and it seems to work great for their Delphi development.
no prob but
i have-it on my laptop (intel core duo 1.83gz 2gbram) and have assign 756MB ram to the vm, its a bit slow...
Running XP SP2 with VS 2008 in VMWare Server on Ubuntu Gutsy with 1 GB dedicated to it. No problem whatsoever.
Running Xp sp 2 without problem on Mac, little laggy,so change to parallels desktop
was running XPSP2+VS2008 on top of Vista Pro laptop with 2 GB of mem (1 for vm the other for Vista).
Well, I had the same need: not to pollute host OS. In fact, it was working nicely, but debugging (especially debugging start/restart) was obviously slow. After a couple of months, I gave up and went back to native install to accelerate things. Now, I prefer to have a native install for my personal needs. I still keep my vmware copy in case I need to work on another computer temporarily.
Thanks for the feedback all
Am currently installing Vis Studio 2003 in VMWare... should be interesting
basically i want to know if you use windows, mac, or linux, and why you use that OS, and also how many people have yet to root their phone because it seems too complicated. i am currently working on a script runable in linux and soon to be runable in windows that will automatically root your phone for you. all you will need to do is run the command, hit enter a few times, set up a setting in anycut(which will be installed on the phone after flashing to RC29) and walk away, or you can sit there and stare at it if you want.
but since i know there are those three main OS's i wanted to know if i should continue trying to get this automated and running in all three operating systems.
I use all of the above so I can't vote. And technically if you own an Android phone you're using Linux.
Ron Overdrive said:
I use all of the above so I can't vote. And technically if you own an Android phone you're using Linux.
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Well which do you use to do work on your phone? And I know by using android you are using linux which is why I made sure to say "on your main computer" I use linux to work on my phones, but I can use windows on my friend's comp
tubaking182 said:
Well which do you use to do work on your phone? And I know by using android you are using linux which is why I made sure to say "on your main computer" I use linux to work on my phones, but I can use windows on my friend's comp
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Lately I've been using Windows 7 since I'm giving it a go to see if I want to return to Windows or not after the Vista blunder.
Honestly though I'd make an OS independent way of doing it to simplify it. Like make it in Java, Python, or in Mono so it'll be one app for all 3 OS's.
Why did you say "M$" in the poll option and not "Microsoft". I thought bagging Microsoft for no good reason stopped being cool 5 years ago?
because up until recently if you were to try and get ahold of a copy of XP an older and "obsolete" operating system they charged nuch more than they charged you for a copy of the crappy vista that the deemed perfect. the company will do anything to make more money than they chould be making, they overcharge for everything and quite frankly i would rag on mac too but it has been a long time since i touched a mac. these days i don't pay for a thing when it comes to my computer software, if there is not a free alternative then i don't need the program. software companies charge an arm and a leg for their software and then they whine and cry that people are pirating it. take a look at photoshop. over 60% of the copies of photoshop that are installed on computers nationwide are pirated copies, and is it any wonder? adobe wants to charge nearly $900 for a piece of intangible software, i'll stick with gimp
I've got an old iMac I still use (OS 9.2), and my main pc is quad boot (XP Pro, Vista, 7, and Unbuntu), and my netbook is dual boot from the hard drive (XP Pro & Vista) and I've got persistant install of Ubuntu on an sdhc card, and a live install of GOS on an sd card.
So I think there should be an option of "All of the above".
Linux here as a desktop OS since the times of Slackware 9.1
Windows XP for commercial development (C# )
I am giving Windows 7 a try too
Work: WinXP
Home: Win7 Beta
Laptop: Currently XP, switching to Ubuntu or some other linux flavor this weekend.
I primarily use Windows because i'm more of a PC Gamer than console. I'd most likely switch completely to Linux >IF< the game industry went full throtle into Linux development. Not talking about a Windows Emulator on linux to run windows games, but coding games natively for Linux.
I think this is a great Idea. I've rooted my phone to get themes and auto-rotation and the updated APN Radio stuff on it. Showed it to some of my friends and they want to root as well, but want me to do it for them cause they are nervous. I tried explaining that if they just follow the step by step instructions, they will be fine. So this will certainly make things easier for them.
tubaking182 said:
basically i want to know if you use windows, mac, or linux, and why you use that OS, and also how many people have yet to root their phone because it seems too complicated. i am currently working on a script runable in linux and soon to be runable in windows that will automatically root your phone for you. all you will need to do is run the command, hit enter a few times, set up a setting in anycut(which will be installed on the phone after flashing to RC29) and walk away, or you can sit there and stare at it if you want.
but since i know there are those three main OS's i wanted to know if i should continue trying to get this automated and running in all three operating systems.
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ASUS G1Sn: Dual Boot Vista and Ubuntu, Vista will be replaced when win7 is final
Asus eeepc 1000H dual boot: Windows 7 Beta 1 and XP
I use Vista mainly because Its not that bad despite some of its problems. A few registry tweaks, scratch that a LOT of registry tweaks go a long way Looking forward to windows 7! I like the freedom with Linux but I don't have the time needed to tinker with it and its a hassle. Hackintosh was alright when I used it, mac os is meh. mac hardware is sexy though. Gimme hardware and keep your OS apple ^^
windows vista on my laptop and windows XP at work.
i rooted to JF 1.42 RC33 but i fumbled my way through...i'm sure anyone with equal or lower "skillz" as me would greatly appreciate the automated root.
thx!
hellbringer626 said:
Hackintosh was alright when I used it, mac os is meh. mac hardware is sexy though. Gimme hardware and keep your OS apple ^^
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Heh, I'm the opposite. Mac hardware only looks good, but underneath its poorly put together and the designs are flawed. I can build a decent looking hackintosh that looks just as good. The OS, however, has a lot of potential assuming Apple allows people to customize their experience without hacking the OS to install a theme and stops locking it into their crappy hardware setup. After all its a heavily commercialized BSD hybrid that makes some things much easier.
MoridinBG said:
Linux here as a desktop OS since the times of Slackware 9.1
Windows XP for commercial development (C# )
I am giving Windows 7 a try too
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I take it what you're doing doesn't work with MONO (it supports up to C# 3.0)? I know people who do C# development work on Mac OS X thanks to MONO.
It cannot be categorized into one vote I need two.
Yeah I know it sucks but I have to have at least one machine with Windows because I am a gamer and until the day that Linux has the same level of 3D application/Gaming support I will always need windows.
Though for everything else I'm either testing the Kubuntu 9.04 Alpha or using Kubuntu 8.10.
I use Mac and the only thing I haven't been able to do with it is format my sd to EXT2, so I end up using my Vista In Parallels. Now, Does anybody knows why in my Mac shows ext2 as one of the format options but doesn't seems to work right
My Labtop Has Windows Vista and Ubuntu
And My Two Desktops Have Windows XP
Dual booted with Vista Ultimate x64 and Ubuntu.
Dual boot with Fedora 10 & Windows XP sp3
Windows xp gets used once in a blue moon to play a game. Most of the main windows applications I used can be run in wine these days. Everything else is vastly easier to do in linux.
I run XP at work, and Tri-boot of Vista/Win7/Ubuntu at home.
I would have thought that if you can't understand how to root your G1...you really don't need to root it in the first place??
I run almost exclusively Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 on at least 5 machines (6 if you count the ps3 in). I run no dual boot but I have XP post SP3 in Virtualbox on my main machine for my bank but I will solve that later as the bank officially now supports Ubuntu but my current certificate is incompatible.
I run Ubuntu because I don't get any problem with viruses, trojans, malware, spyware and clogged registry. I also run Ubuntu because almost everything can be done from the command line. You can mod almost all parts of Ubuntu including Linux. It's free and I can make the modifications I want to the source code. Some applications and drivers are proprietary which can be a pain but that's how the current state is and usually you don't need so many proprietary parts. There are many free apps available via apt-get, both using official repository, ppa:s and external repositories. I find Linux distributions more modular than Windows. There's less problem with unsupported old hardware like in newer editions of Windows. Canon and HP skipped Vista support for both our scanner and printer. Only the basic features of the printer worked. In Ubuntu I get a lot more information from the printer with CUPS than with Vista and the inbuilt driver. The scanner was impossible to make work on x64 Vista. x86 worked but it was an ugly driver hack with the old xp driver and not optimal. Most hardware drivers for old components are built in into Linux.
I've tried Vista many times and it has not met my expectations of a good OS. My latest TX tablet crashed while I finished the configuration and went to burn the recovery discs. I tested ram and the harddrive and there were no problems. After running Ubuntu on that machine for quite a while I consider it stable. My previous TX computer had similar problems. The lack of drivers for old hardware, the lack of a good CLI and the need for all the protection makes me look elsewhere. Windows 7 is looking a lot better but It's far from what I want to use. I tried powershell and I just wanted to get out of there quickly. I've used MAC OSX including 10.1, 10.4 and 10.5 and I like it a lot. Unfortunately as you may have understood OSX is exclusively made for MAC:s. It runs on many x86/x86_64 pc:s but often there is always something not running properly.
If Apple would make OSX available for PC:s with BIOS (which they most likely won't because then they wouldn't sell as many MAC:s) I would use it. The Ubuntu GUI is good if you change the theme but Aqua on OSX is much better.
I think we are heading more towards cloud based OS:S / webOS:s /online-OS:s.
Sorry for the rant. I just felt like writing.
Debian linux testing version..
The operating system is Mac OS X, I want to increase the limit of 128mb of graphics memory, because I place an Nvidia GTX 760. How do I to increase graphics memory? I have to work on Mac OS X these days on iMovie / GarageBand etc. gives me an error about "Quartz Extreme required". I have a PC assembled around € 2,000. Help Me! My operating system with VMware is Windows 7.
This is not a VMware forum (or an OS X forum, or even a Win7 forum, for that matter). It has nothing to do with mobile operating systems, developing for mobile, or hacking on mobile. The VMware forums are over there.
Did it even occur to you to search "VMware Forum" before posting your question on a *COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT* forum instead?
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The operating system is Mac OS X, I want to increase the limit of 128mb of graphics memory, because I place an Nvidia GTX 760. How do I to increase graphics memory? I have to work on Mac OS X these days on iMovie / GarageBand etc. gives me an error about "Quartz Extreme required". I have a PC assembled around € 2,000. Help Me! My operating system with VMware is Windows 7.
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You might be missing a basic concept. The video card in your virtual machine is virtualized like most of the hardware. This means that the virtual machine does not actually get to see the graphics adapter. Instead of your Nvidia card, the virtual hardware that is presented to your Windows guest is software emulating hardware.
The driver that is being used there is the VMware VGA driver and lots of the heavy lifting is done by the CPU instead of the GPU. The only operating system that can control your graphics adapter is the host OS, there cannot be 2 operating systems that control the same adapter, PC hardware simply is not designed to work like that.
You can't run osx applications that require the graphic card on osx inside vmware workstation or virtualbox, because the drivers for Quartz Extreme and Core Boot are not available. You could buy a second hand mac mini, macbook pro, imac, or whatever, or even buy a new hackintosh from ebay that guarantee you that will work. It can be a desktop or notebook, where you can run linux, macos and windows 7/10 and so on.
DuOS-M is commercial software developed by American Megatrends for Intel x86-based computers using the Microsoft Windows operating system to provide a "dual operating system" environment in which the user can simultaneously deploy the Android operating system in tandem with Microsoft Windows.
DuOS-M supports key hardware peripherals in Windows including cameras, audio, microphone and sensors such as ambient light sensor, accelerometer, gyrometer, compass and orientation sensors. It also supports various screen sizes, resolutions, and screen orientation (portrait and landscape) along with 3D acceleration and HD video playback.
The first version of DuOS-M was released in June 2014. The software is available for download for a free 30-day trial, and is available for purchase for a complete license (currently $9.99 US).
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Homepage: http://amiduos.com/
I'm surprised there's no discussion on this in xda developers, so I thought I'd start one.
Personal experiences :
I wanted to find an alternative to Andy and Genymotion which rely on VirtualBox since the VirtualBox's ndis filter drivers make my Windows 8.1 desktop regularly bluescreen. There's also Bluestacks but that always seemed to run poorly on even powerful computers.
DuOS-M is based on Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean). They've stated they have no slated support for KitKat since they don't see it as a significant upgrade, but are looking into Android-L support. It comes pre-installed with the Amazon Marketplace. It can run both native x86 android apps and ARM apps out of the box. After installation it takes you to a page that explains how to easily install the Google Play Store / Services:
Installing Google Play Store:
http://amiduos.com/nextsteps
If you scroll down on the above link it also has instructions how to root your installation, which is dead simple.
I really like how Google Play, ARM Support, and Root support are all baked into the process.
Unfortunately I was unable to run this on my Windows 8.1 Enterprise edition desktop since it's running the Hyper-V role which DuOS-M doesn't support (shows a warning on startup that virtualization isn't enabled and then hangs when you OK the warning). I could disable Hyper-V (via removing the role or adding a boot flag option with Hyper-V disabled) but I develop too often with Windows Phone 8 to do that right now.
I next tested it on my ASUS VivoBook 11.6" (1366x768) Touchscreen Laptop which has a Celeron 1007U Dual Core CPU and 4GB memory running Windows 8.1. It runs surprisingly well, better than Genymotion in most cases. It's not perfect, Word With Friends for instance has weird missing textures. But it has been able to run things I've never gotten to work in Genymotion or Bluestacks, such as video streaming in Qloud Media player. Since this is a touch screen laptop all gestures and touch controls seems to work great, in addition to the keyboard/mouse controls. I like how DuOS-M doesn't install a new virtual network card on the host machine and seems to support Internet access transparently.
They recently just released a 32-bit beta version which I'm eager to try on my Dell Venue 8 Pro 8" Windows tablet. At $9.99 I'll probably purchase a copy before my 30-days are up. I'm curious to hear other people's thoughts on DuOS-M. Hopefully with more users/feedback they can continue improving this great Android virtualization alternative.
I've recently purchased DuOS-M.
Compared with Bluestacks, DuOS is a Ferrari. I'm using it on a Lenovo Yoga and i'm very impressed.
My Lenovo has a mobile core i5 processor but this is no problem at all.
All apps and games are running without lag. I did see some glitches but nothing serious.
Overall i'm very pleased with DuOS-M.
It would be nice to see what happens if XDA modders and cookers shine a light on this one!
It's nice...
Really lightweight and fast to install...
Has some limitations like no resizable window, but great overall.
tfouto said:
It's nice...
Really lightweight and fast to install...
Has some limitations like no resizable window, but great overall.
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DuOS will not launch in Full screen when the System RAM is less than 3GB, even though full screen is set in Configuration tool or 0 is set in xml configuration file.
This is known issue and this will be fixed in future release.
Seems like the latest update has fixed the fullscreen issue! Runs quite well on my Asus T100.
whopper2005 said:
I've recently purchased DuOS-M.
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Does Titanium Backup work using DuosM?
LochNiss said:
Does Titanium Backup work using DuosM?
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Seemed to work fine, go ahead and try it for yourself, the trial version is fully functional for 30 days.
Did you have to buy it or is it to find it for free? thx for the anwser :
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Did you have to buy it or is it to find it for free? thx for the anwser :
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You can try the full version for 30 days.
After that its $9.99 USD.
vampirexhunter said:
You can try the full version for 30 days.
After that its $9.99 USD.
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Does DuOS have a Lollipop image yet ?
Just wondering if anyone found a way around the syscheck (in particular, the 1GB ram). I'm running this on my Surface Pro and it blows Bluestacks out of the water. So I was thinking of running it on an HP Stream 7, a cheapo Windows tablet, but it only has 1GB ram. Getting a "Unfortunately you do not have enough memory to install DuOS-m." error.
DuOS vs Bluestack vs Genymotion vs Andyroid, which one better?
Isn't it VirtualBox also?
TalynOne said:
I wanted to find an alternative to Andy and Genymotion which rely on VirtualBox since the VirtualBox's ndis filter drivers make my Windows 8.1 desktop regularly bluescreen. There's also Bluestacks but that always seemed to run poorly on even powerful computers.
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Fun fact: This version uses a custom build of VirtualBox. If you dig around, you can find the VHD files and VM config.
Unfortunately, without some reverse engineering, you can't just mount the disks in a VBox VM and go, there's some local host-only networking going on that I'm assuming helps authenticate to the licensing server or something, because trying to launch it gets it stuck after initializing the network interfaces (probably waiting for UDP packets).
Since the virtual nics are in NAT mode, I'm assuming that's why your PC isn't bluescreening, since NAT networking doesn't actually hook your interfaces but is translated from within the VBox software.
I am curious as to how this will work if I install VirtualBox side-by-side.... (it's currently on a separate vanilla test machine).
DuOS is really great, i just installed it and fell in love with straight away. but Has any one tried windroye, it seems to perform well and also has a mobile companion... I'm using it in high end machine so cant really tell the difference. so anyone who tried can you share your opinion ?
download link
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Is there any to install this on PC without Graphics Card ?
christiano9911 said:
Is there any to install this on PC without Graphics Card ?
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Do you mean using integrated graphics? If so, yes. Works perfectly with my built in graphics card on my laptop.
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I mean without graphics card!
For those who've run it on a 32-bit device (older laptop or maybe the Dell Venue Pro 8), any chance you guys can provide the msi installation file? I'd like to try this on an HP Stream 7 which only has 1GB ram.
Apparently AMI is/ will be announcing DuOS 5 at MWC, obviously hoping they have bumped it up to lollipop.
Does anyone has available the keyboard shortcuts list, for zooming and multitouch actions? I can't find it anymore on the official website