Evo Shift General Discussion - EVO Shift 4G General

Please have all general discussions about the new Evo Shift here

Speaking in general, I can't wait to get mine!

I am absolutely loving mine. Hope you get yours soon!

This is a phenomenal upgrade from the Hero. I'm really pleased with the phone, again another polished device from HTC.
Eagerly awaiting root and gingerbread!

Picked it up yesterday. Absolutely love it. Quadrant standard is 1500+ and it beat the hell out of a stock Evo. Battery life is good but want to know more about its is processor chip..

how do you like the keyboard? specifically how does that square dpad feel? (is it capacitative or an actual button)

mputtr said:
how do you like the keyboard? specifically how does that square dpad feel? (is it capacitative or an actual button)
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I love the keyboard which reminds me of the G1's. The dpad is a physical button and to be honest I have not used it that much.
I didn't really think that I missed having a keyboard, but man it has been a pleasure to have this one at the ready.

nik4android said:
Picked it up yesterday. Absolutely love it. Quadrant standard is 1500+ and it beat the hell out of a stock Evo. Battery life is good but want to know more about its is processor chip..
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The GPU is the Andreno 205 here are the specs and a nice write up
Andreno 205
Here are the details of the MSM7630

Thanks. Also I love the keypad. Didn't realise how much I missed it when using my Evo.
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when using advanced task killer, how much memory do you guys usually have? i'm sitting at around 140MB but right after i reboot the phone and kill apps i got to 190MB. my evo was around 230MB after reboot and around 170MB after running for a while.
you think custom roms will help memory management and get all this crap off here? i thought the evo and the shift had the same amount of RAM (512mb)...
but man did i miss my keyboard. went to the evo, yelled at my phone for the keyboard probably 50 times a day, raised blood pressure im sure... now i got the physical keyboard, no guessing now.

the only thing I miss is the Evo screen size, but I am very very very happy with this phone. I can't stop playing with it. Gameboid with real buttons as controls makes it so much easier to play FFVI :-D I can't wait to overclock the snot out of this thing.

In stock?
If I haven't pre-ordered at this point, is it realistic for me to be able to find somewhere with this in stock tomorrow morning?

Another thing the Shift has also is the New Flip Clock. Although, I do know you can flash it on the Evo. However, you have to be rooted in order to it.

Yeah I picked mine up from radio shack two days ago for $150. Hell I was the first one the store sold and I went in at like 7pm. The reps didn't even know they had the phone on display yet.

yep, just walked into bby and came out with one 15min later...
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I just picked mine up. I upgraded from a HTC Touch Pro 2.
Edit: I had a question here, but I found an answer to it elsewhere. Be back later probably.

you can use PDAnet for now. It's a pay app, but you can use it free. Free version doesn't do secure sites. I'm gonna use it till I get rooted.

raptor15sc said:
I just picked mine up. I upgraded from a HTC Touch Pro 2.
As soon as I got my TP2 I flashed the rom over to MightyRom, and I used the Internet Sharing it had to tether to my laptop and that worked fine with my current Sprint plan.
Now I got the Shift with the stock rom and it is saying that I need to buy an additional $30 a month add on to my plan in order to tether to my laptop...
Anyone know a way to get around this with an app or a rom?
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Its was launched just today but has been available at radioshack and bb for a couple of days. The only way for tethering would be to root it and then use a custom rom. That is what I know imho.

Does anyone know if there every going to create the droid x multi touch keyboard for this phone...Yes this does have a physical keyboard but sometimes i like to type on screen, and that was my favorite keyboard on the OG Evo

dnalevelc said:
you can use PDAnet for now. It's a pay app, but you can use it free. Free version doesn't do secure sites. I'm gonna use it till I get rooted.
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I know you can do temporary root with "Zroot" and i think I read that the wifi tethering app also works after you use Zroot.

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No defectives here please...

Since this morning i haven't seen a good after-launch review of the phone, is it worth it or not? I'm getting mine tomorrow people, it's still a good idea?
The people who are happy and having no issues, like myself, are most likely to busy playing with their phones to come and post here. I have had 0 problems and just loving the phone. Everything works perfectly and activation took only 20 mins.
The people having issues seem to be those who ported their number from another carrier for the most part. Some say that can be fixed by updating the PRL. Others are upset about the sprint servers crashing all day and not getting their phones, but that is to be expected with the rush for this phone.
The phone itself is practically flawless. Still have not tested battery life thou, gonna do a series of drain and charge to get it maxed out as they say.
No problems with mine besides Qik not being updated in the market or Handcent but it's working perfectly for me. I love it.
what are you talking about? mine is perfect.
the whiners will always be louder then the happy customers.
blackout203 said:
No problems with mine besides Qik not being updated in the market or Handcent but it's working perfectly for me. I love it.
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What about Handcent, is not in the market? can you install it outside the market?
dude this phone is so awesome! I love it so far.
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MrDSL said:
dude this phone is so awesome! although i can figure out how to change my tapatalk signature
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good, i have to wait till tomorrow anyways, i was scared because of the bad reviews but there's no going back.!!!
I got an EVO at the Google I/O and I found Handcent in the Market just fine
everything is fine for me too
the only issue i have is getting used to the keyboard
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the only issue i have is getting used to the keyboard
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is it too big?
The keyboard is a lot better then my n1's keyboard. I have no issues with mine. I have only seen a few post about issues and they are not widespread issues. Just make sure to reformat the sd card that comes with it.
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is it too big?
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While I can't speak for whom you were asking, I can say for myself, coming from the hero where I'd gotten used to typing in portrait mode (yes, I'm weird), it was quite an adjustment...then I downloaded swype (it has it's own thread somewhere around here) and I'm content again. Once we have ROM's coming out left and right, I'm sure the xda keyboard will show up again too or yet another one just to help with our massive screen size.
As for problems...getting used to having something that big in my hand (yes yes, I hear the jokes flying) is the main thing.
...that and all the "that's what she said" jokes that come to my mind and the minds of my friends every time we talk about the device.
shep211 said:
The keyboard is a lot better then my n1's keyboard. I have no issues with mine. I have only seen a few post about issues and they are not widespread issues. Just make sure to reformat the sd card that comes with it.
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i bought another one, i need to reformat the new one too?
i'm coming from a physical keyboard so it's a big adjustment for me
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i'm coming from a physical keyboard so it's a big adjustment for me
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oh, of course it is!
the voice to text feature on the keyboards pretty cool
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Ya, this is my first phone without a keyboard. Gonna take some getting use to. I can't type as fast as I like, perhaps I will get better at it.
The phone has been great along with battery life on 3g. I only turned 4g for a few moments to test speeds. It was over 6mb download. Good for me
Have done the OTA update yet and no problems with card. I have a class 6 16gb ready for it when I get home. The SD saves fine and stored files and pictures fine. Full charge at around 10:30am and over half now at 7pm. Mostly talking on phone and some internet and emails.
Waiting for the seidio ii case to come in. Hope its not too bulky. I have their case for the incredible as well. Like the feel..
Cat mount and I am set.
Only complaint is the time it takes to search for POIs in Sprint navigation. The navigation lock is fast. Goggles navigation works much faster. It's free so I can't complain. My navigation in my cars will always get first priority .
I ported my number and everything went fine but I got mine before Sprints systems started crashing. As for the phone I havent had a problem with it. I came from an HD2 so I'm used to size and poor battery life but everything about the phone is smoother than the HD2.

Poll: Are you going to return your G2?

I'm not trying to flame or troll or piss off anyone. I think it would just be useful to have some stats on the matter of G2 remorse now that the remorse period for many of us is coming to a close.
Isnt there already a post like this? Im staying with mine.
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I still have 8 days remorse left. I'm still undecided. I paid full retail price for the phone that's why..
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mftek said:
I still have 8 days remorse left. I'm still undecided. I paid full retail price for the phone that's why..
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Paid retail, too.
joebobjoe said:
Paid retail, too.
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But as of right now bro I'm thinking of sticking with the g2. Either that or the vibrant? How about you bro?
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No. Best phone I've ever had.
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But as of right now bro I'm thinking of sticking with the g2. Either that or the vibrant? How about you bro?
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If the Vibrant's Froyo OTA really fixes the GPS issue then I'll consider it. Super AMOLED screen + superior GPU + GPS fix + root = win. I really would have loved the G2, I just can't get over the POS hinge. I'd even prefer a plastic phone with a sturdy hinge.
But if I switched to the Vibrant, I would miss HSPA+.
I'll wait and see if there's a Gingerbread announcement this week.
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If the Vibrant's Froyo OTA really fixes the GPS issue then I'll consider it. Super AMOLED screen + superior GPU + GPS fix + root = win. I really would have loved the G2, I just can't get over the POS hinge. I'd even prefer a plastic phone with a sturdy hinge.
But if I switched to the Vibrant, I would miss HSPA+.
I'll wait and see if there's a Gingerbread announcement this week.
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Well my wife has the vibrant and the gps works fine.
The hinge isn't a problem for me so far. The main thing is I love how responsive this phone is. No lag what so ever.
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Got a few more days left of remorse...
Thinking of maybe returning it then get that new my touch that's coming out soon. That front facing camera is my only thing missing with the G2. Other than that I love this phone...upgrading from G1 so having this phone is so much faster and so smooth.
Btw, paid full price too.
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Got a few more days left of remorse...
Thinking of maybe returning it then get that new my touch that's coming out soon. That front facing camera is my only thing missing with the G2. Other than that I love this phone...upgrading from G1 so having this phone is so much faster and so smooth.
Btw, paid full price too.
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What's the release date for the my touch hd?
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What's the release date for the my touch hd?
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I don't think anybody knows yet.
I can't answer this poll because I don't have my G2 yet, but I'm paying retail for mine, and it's doubtful I will be so disappointed in it that I'd return it.
I got my phone on the first and havnt had a single problem. It hasnt rebooted a single time, my hinge doesnt open when upside down, I can go about 2 days without charging (I use my phone quite a bit), and coming from the G1, wouldnt trade it for anything else
Lack of full root and crappy hinge.... but still a awesome phone I wouldn't get anything else coming out right now
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I am confused between the G2 oh Vibrant
To everyone that is thinking about returning your phone for root reasons.. what makes you think that the MytouchHD or any newer phones coming out will be able to get root working if we havnt got root working on the G2 YET! its just a matter of time before someone cracks the code. Many people thrashing the G2 because it hasnt got root yet if ignorant to the fact that almost all new phones that come out will have some kind of security measure. So if your returning your phone for my MytouchHD goodluck to you my friends, impatience will be the death of you.
Definitely gonna keep mine. The hinge is working out just fine for me, never had it open or close on me. I came from the Nexus One and love how much more responsive the G2 is. I also love having a keyboard although I found the G1 keyboard faster to type on.
Only cons that bug me are the fact that the keyboard doesn't have separate number keys (like the G1) and that you can't force the keyboard backlighting to turn on every time you use it. That light sensor crap is getting a little annoying when the back lighting keeps going on and off in dim light. Otherwise I'm very happy. Paid full price as well.
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Has anyone gotten it to be fully rooted? I see some people complaining about the processor but from what i read from a pre release was that it had the new qualcom scorpion processor that is under clocked to 800mhz because the graphics chipset was amazing and could handle more then any phone out there. So if a full root could be done then a over clock would be cool to see it run at its full 1.3 ghz that the scorpion processor is capable of. The only reason i would never get one is because its a gsm phone and tmobile in my area blows and at&t just sucks period with their plans and basing everything twards the inferior iphone.
Yeah in my opinion, besides the root on Vibrant, is the G2 lacking anything from it? I think overall, maybe 75% of all G2 user haven't had that GPS issues.. and that's what that update recently did, right? If not wrong.. and compare to screens, who here is a dedicated phtographer or so call-it that the screen has to be perfect, it works just fine.. for a the purpose of a phone is. I really think Nokia is the one that focus on resolution more than anyone else.. I think that when they make the phone they focus on features more than camera pixels.. more with what a phone can do and rather than what the screen or resolution can improve.. weird, if I think about it maybe.. but me saying
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Also I thought the scorpion was the lastest after the snapdragon besides what ratings say about it?
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Well I will say I'm super impressed with the super amoled screen on the epic the one that was a bit over hype is the iphone 4 retna display. Screens don't sell phones hardware and functionality do and not many phones can compete with htc sence ui! Since the first hero showed up its been the benchmark for being very asteticly pleasing and very useful. I'm sure once you guys gain full root access you will love the g2's as much as everyone with a g1 did. I miss my g1 still even the epic is not the same the keyboard on the g1 IMO is the best to date on a phone period. Give the g2 achance we have all been waiting for it sice they announced the hero I'm sure it will take off and pack a punch in the android phone market. (Hopeing its not another nexus 1 fail)
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Thinking About Getting Rid of My Nexus One

I've had my AT&T 3g Nexus One since July and loved it..... But, now i'm just becoming frustrated with it. I have been getting constant lags and freezes with it ever since the more recent Froyo updates (or maybe thats just when Ive been noticing it, I never used it with éclair). I'm running stock with launcher pro if that has anything to do with it, but the stock launcher seems so much more buggy. The screen also isnt very responsive and the buttons can be annoying at times. I'm having random moments where the touch screen goes all crazy and I can press the back button, menu button, home, etc all in the middle of the screen as well. I've been contemplating making the switch to a Desire or Captivate if Gingerbread doesn't help or fix these issues? I really don't want to make a switch because, i've spent over $125 in cases for it and definitely wont make or match my money...
Dont do it. At least not for the desire as its pretty much the same phone and even has the same pentile AMOLED, and the captivate has slow updates and community is nowhere near the N1s. If you are running stock then use your warranty and get the touch screen fixed.
i sold my brand new desire and frantically searched for a att nexus one lol. where were you last week!? hah.
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Can anyone convince me not to go with either of the other phones?
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The "please convince me to stay" threads always crack me up
If you have an itch to scratch go ahead young fella. But I might be able to think up a reason right here:
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(I really don't want to, i've spent over $125 in cases for it and wont make or match my money)
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$125 in cases for your Nexus One?! Wowza!
ap3604 said:
The "please convince me to stay" threads always crack me up
If you have an itch to scratch go ahead young fella. But I might be able to think up a reason right here:
"(I really don't want to, i've spent over $125 in cases for it and wont make or match my money)"
$125 in cases for your Nexus One?! Wowza!
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$50 Otterbox Defender, $15 gelli case from boxwave, $30 tough case from Case-mate, $35 for Otterbox Commuter Not including shipping
Lol....
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$50 Otterbox Defender, $15 gelli case from boxwave, $30 tough case from Case-mate, $35 for Otterbox Commuter Not including shipping
Lol....
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LoL you gotta get checked into a rehab clinic brotha!
Btw are you in a 2yr contract w/ Att?
Zephyrs said:
I've had my AT&T 3g Nexus One since July and loved it..... But, now i'm just becoming frustrated with it. I have been getting constant lags and freezes with it ever since the more recent Froyo updates (or maybe thats just when Ive been noticing it, I never used it with éclair). I'm running stock with launcher pro if that has anything to do with it, but the stock launcher seems so much more buggy. The screen also isnt very responsive and the buttons can be annoying at times. I'm having random moments where the touch screen goes all crazy and I can press the back button, menu button, home, etc all in the middle of the screen as well. I've been contemplating making the switch to a Desire or Captivate if Gingerbread doesn't help or fix these issues? I really don't want to make a switch because, i've spent over $125 in cases for it and definitely wont make or match my money...
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Speed issues on a Nexus are software problems 99% of the time. Just root the phone and install a fast rom like CM 6 and it will be good as new.
Also btw, how are you on AT&T in London?
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Speed issues on a Nexus are software problems 99% of the time. Just root the phone and install a fast rom like CM 6 and it will be good as new.
Also btw, how are you on AT&T in London?
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I was recently living in London and never changed it.
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LoL you gotta get checked into a rehab clinic brotha!
Btw are you in a 2yr contract w/ Att?
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Yes
So you had a n1 and didn't root it...
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If your not rooted, then u are missing out on most of it's abilities!
unlock, root, and put CM 6.1 RC1 on it. use ADW instead of lpro. format your sdcard, clear caches, and enjoy the speed again.
or
sell it and get an iphone. or wp7. or whatever. just get whatcha like.
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unlock, root, and put CM 6.1 RC1 on it. use ADW instead of lpro. format your sdcard, clear caches, and enjoy the speed again.
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sell it and get an iphone. or wp7. or whatever. just get whatcha like.
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I've never really considered rooting it because I never have time for all the phone customizations and ROM flashing. But, I might possibly try your suggestions
rooting makes a big difference. =) i got my used n1 and it was slow from the previous owner. after a root it has never looked back. =)
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Speed issues on a Nexus are software problems 99% of the time. Just root the phone and install a fast rom like CM 6 and it will be good as new.
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I also have the ATT n1. Since day one I had the phone rooted, unlock bootloader and fresh copy of the cm6. I never notice lag or reboot. My phone runs like butter. As long as you know what your doing, you should not have any problem with your n1. Even release of new nexus s I don't think I will replace it. I am just not really into Samsung. Prob hold out for HTC android phone.
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I've never really considered rooting it because I never have time for all the phone customizations and ROM flashing. But, I might possibly try your suggestions
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It will take less then an hour. No I take that back 15 min. It's worth every min. You will feel line your flying. Also make sure update the radio too. It helps.
galaxys said:
If your not rooted, then u are missing out on most of it's abilities!
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Like? Mine is un-rooted and I don't feel like I'm missing anything...
descendency said:
Like? Mine is un-rooted and I don't feel like I'm missing anything...
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I dunno optimized everything...
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descendency said:
Like? Mine is un-rooted and I don't feel like I'm missing anything...
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Titanium backup to backup and restore all your apps (including settings and saved games) without reinstalling them one by one. Setcpu to set CPU profiles to save battery. Ability to change notification status bar to black to prevent the white burn-in of screen. Able to use your camera flash as a torch. Apps2Ext to install a lot of apps without caring about internal storage space limits. Enable 720p video recording. Enable your FM radio. Be a Rom flashing junkie. Etc. Etc.
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Titanium backup to backup and restore all your apps (including settings and saved games) without reinstalling them one by one. Setcpu to set CPU profiles to save battery. Ability to change notification status bar to black to prevent the white burn-in of screen. Able to use your camera flash as a torch. Apps2Ext to install a lot of apps without caring about internal storage space limits. Enable 720p video recording. Enable your FM radio. Be a Rom flashing junkie. Etc. Etc.
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... to flash undervolted kernels or ones where you can lower your min CPU frequency to 128mhz for even better standby time... and then 1152 for a speed burst like no other.
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Lol @ people who still havent rooted their n1.
Sounds like you need an iphone

Thunderbolt can do Voice & Data at same time

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/htc-thunderbolt-will-support-simultaneous-voice-and-data-in-lte/
Well, only if you have 4g coverage, but still... As a Verizon customer all my life I have never been able to do this. Just think of the possibilities that we have now... I can talk to friends AND look at online porn at the same time
EDIT: don't know why i put this in Incredible section, should be in Thunderbolt section... oh well, a lot of us will probably be upgrading to it anyway
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/htc-thunderbolt-will-support-simultaneous-voice-and-data-in-lte/
Well, only if you have 4g coverage, but still... As a Verizon customer all my life I have never been able to do this. Just think of the possibilities that we have now... I can talk to friends AND look at online porn at the same time
EDIT: don't know why i put this in Incredible section, should be in Thunderbolt section... oh well, a lot of us will probably be upgrading to it anyway
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That's cool. 4G for data, 3G for voice. I don't know if that would be a huge deal though.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/htc-thunderbolt-will-support-simultaneous-voice-and-data-in-lte/
Well, only if you have 4g coverage, but still... As a Verizon customer all my life I have never been able to do this. Just think of the possibilities that we have now... I can talk to friends AND look at online porn at the same time
EDIT: don't know why i put this in Incredible section, should be in Thunderbolt section... oh well, a lot of us will probably be upgrading to it anyway
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I doubt I'll get 4G for a while where I am, so I guess I'll have to live with 3G + WiFi for my voice + data needs.
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Most people probably wont use this feature. Its just something ATT could gloat about for awhile, but really who needs to browse the net while talking that much where its a significant feature.
When I was on T-Mobile with the Nexus One, I actually did use voice and data a few times when the girlfriend was lost (shocker) and needed me to pull up Maps to help her out. It has been slightly frustrating on Verizon to have to hang up and call her back. It'll be nice to have that option again.
I doubt many ppl are gonna upgrade, doesnt really have many
new features. No hdmi, what a joke, epic fail.
Inc SR 3.5, 40GB, 1800mah
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TokedUp said:
I doubt many ppl are gonna upgrade, doesnt really have many
new features. No hdmi, what a joke, epic fail.
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You're right. Other than a new 45nm processor, four times faster GPU, 50% more RAM, LTE, Dolby Surround, noise cancelling mics, new HTC Sense, DLNA, wireless N, Bluetooth EDR, and front facing camera, there isn't much the Thunderbolt has over the Incredible.
TokedUp said:
I doubt many ppl are gonna upgrade, doesnt really have many
new features. No hdmi, what a joke, epic fail.
Inc SR 3.5, 40GB, 1800mah
www.TOOLBAND.com
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Looks like someone throughly did their research. No HDMI port? Ohs noes!
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When I was on T-Mobile with the Nexus One, I actually did use voice and data a few times when the girlfriend was lost (shocker) and needed me to pull up Maps to help her out. It has been slightly frustrating on Verizon to have to hang up and call her back. It'll be nice to have that option again.
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Maps will work on verizon while you are on the phone. Well it continues to work if you already have choosen a destination, don't know if it would still work if I just wanted to look up directions.
karnovaran said:
You're right. Other than a new 45nm processor, four times faster GPU, 50% more RAM, LTE, Dolby Surround, noise cancelling mics, new HTC Sense, DLNA, wireless N, Bluetooth EDR, and front facing camera, there isn't much the Thunderbolt has over the Incredible.
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Uber Meh features. Gimme something I need. A front cam that wont work cuz no one else will have a front cam to use with you. Dolby? really? who the f cares? new sense isnt that much different, its already been leaked and am already using the features, so meh again. I already have wireless N, so meh again. Dont need the Ram, so meh. Noise cancelling mics? cmon dude.
Wow man. enjoy your new toy. Other than screen size sounds like a waste. I figured no HDMI would make my case but I guess I had to go there. Sorry to kill ur topic, i didnt mean it.
Mods plz move this to the Tbolt section, plz.
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Uber Meh features. Gimme something I need.
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Here you go: http://www.amazon.com/Fundamentals-English-Grammar-Student-Answer/dp/013049447X/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1295467855&sr=1-6
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Here you go: http://www.amazon.com/Fundamentals-English-Grammar-Student-Answer/dp/013049447X/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1295467855&sr=1-6
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Thanks for the laugh! That was perfect
In all seriousness though, even if I don't upgrade (I probably won't), my brother will be getting one and I am quite jealous of the speed upgrade he'll be getting... No HDMI, pshh.
So who rly wants to use the hdmi on a phone? I leave the high def up to my ps3
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superchilpil said:
So who rly wants to use the hdmi on a phone? I leave the high def up to my ps3
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Exactly, only purpose i could see (before DLNA was confirmed anyway) would have been the ability to share your videos via HDMI, so if you went to a friends/family members house and wanted to show your camcorder videos you could via HDMI, it would be as simply as a connection to the TV via the HDMI cable.
But now that mirroring has been unveiled by LG on there Optimus line of phones, Optimus 2X and Revolution, it might be a cool and all to see your games and UI on a big screen tv, but not really necessary since theres DLNA on board and most TV's anymore that are flatscreen or HD have it built in especially with the rise of internet capable tv's like my Samsung 52"
DLNA works great on the new sense and i love how its two way where you can control the content via the phone to the TV or from the PC to the phone and vice versa.
to the TV you can use the phone as the remote, control the playback, pause it turn the volume up and down and all that, just like a boxee minus the TV controls anyway lol
i can't wait till this phone launches, i love the new sense and its ability to have skins and the other features like Locations and Navigation by TomTom (it was confirmed after it launched on the Desire HD that TomTom was the maps/navigation provider)
if you look at all the options we have on this handset, it might not be a dual core phone but its definitely worth an upgrade from the Incredible, which reminds me
if Verizon does it the way i think they are, and launch after the 22nd, all the Original launch day Incredible owners would be eligible to upgrade to the ThunderBolt (assuming they got a 1 year contract, which i always get so i don't get burned when a new handset arrives the year after).
but it kinda makes sense,
launch the successor to a phone like the Incredible right after the time they become eligible to upgrade during there 1 year agreement, if i recall, they did this with the launch of the Droid X for the OGD owners, so timing really is everything.
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Most people probably wont use this feature. Its just something ATT could gloat about for awhile, but really who needs to browse the net while talking that much where its a significant feature.
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Let's not forget, ATT gloated about it as if it were an ATT feature and not a complete accident by way of the network technology they used. Back when I was on T-Mobile I met more than a few people who didn't believe they could do it too.
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Let's not forget, ATT gloated about it as if it were an ATT feature and not a complete accident by way of the network technology they used. Back when I was on T-Mobile I met more than a few people who didn't believe they could do it too.
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The six years I was on Cingular, AT&T and T-Mobile, I never used the data + voice feature. I have had to give my girlfriend directions the other day and I just said, let me call you right back, I pulled it up on maps and called right back.
lol... it's not that grand.
I for one honestly don't care about HDMI out. Like someone else stated above, I will leave HD to my PC and TV.
g00s3y said:
I for one honestly don't care about HDMI out. Like someone else stated above, I will leave HD to my PC and TV.
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Agreed.
I have a special media player that plays my movies in WMV, MKV, basically anything I throw at it. Why would I want to use my phone?
IISiDeK1CKII said:
The six years I was on Cingular, AT&T and T-Mobile, I never used the data + voice feature. I have had to give my girlfriend directions the other day and I just said, let me call you right back, I pulled it up on maps and called right back.
lol... it's not that grand.
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True. I had a BB Curve, and being on the phone trying to pull up the Browser/Google Maps to get directions or anything was slower than hell...much easier just to look up and call back, you are correct there!
I am 42 yrs so for me a bigger screen without the cumbersome height of a droid x is worth considering. New sense is truly awesome too (now that I have played on the Z/HD ports) and the extra features are welcome. However, currently the Incredible is a truly open platform to us and we have no idea what HTC will do or be forced to do on the thunderbolt's bootloader. What if they go the motorola way?
As you can see from my sig I am a rom slut/whore/whatever is the male equivalent. I worry that HTC will make it harder for us to root the thunderbolt and that alone will be enough for me to rule out that phone. So I will seriously consider it only if I find out that it can be nand unlocked. Until then, no point switching from the inc to a phone that cant be modded and to be locked down into whatever the carrier allows me to do. That would be a bad trade. Plus LTE towers will only slowly be percolating across the country. I do not believe LTE will be widely available everywhere we are immediately. Why not wait a bit before paying for LTE service? Believe me, it will cost you more.
I also did not like the small battery. What if the energy utilization efficiencies are only marginal? That would not be good. The included 32gb micro sdhc card is worth some $ but think about this - why did they think they had to throw a free 32gb card in?
Another thing that concerns me is that while this phone might have better specs than the inc, it is not dual core (seems six months on every phone will be dual core) so is this a significant upgrade to the inc? I dont know. Early adopters may have a better toy only for a short period of time. The initial tech curve is always very steep.
My 2 cents

So excited!!! Evo Design 4G on Sunday!!!

So, I'll be picking up my Evo Design 4G bright and early Sunday morning I'll let you know how it goes and what I think after I've had it for a couple hours.
I've been waiting a while for a smaller version of the Evo to hit sprint... and now the wait is OVER
Just read about this on Engadget,looks like its going to be a pretty good phone. Might even pick one up off contact.
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...e-october-23rd-f/&category=classic&postPage=1
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so this thing doesn't have a dual-core processor right?
No, it's still single core, but I'm not THAT hardcore on my phone anyway.. with what I do with my phones, once I find the right rom and kernel combo I'm smooth sailing. I've got two upgrades in the waiting so I'm going to use one on this phone. I just want it for the smaller frame. Personally I think 4.0" is perfect. These new 4.5, and 4.7" screens coming out, might as well have a damn tablet pressed to your face
The global roaming capabilities seems interesting as well. I wonder how well that will work in gsm areas around me.
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Why not just get a 3D?
Whooo! (Cole Voice...)
A little more ram and a extra 200mhz on the CPU PLUS a smaller screen. Whats the point in buying it?
Seems like a waste of time and money.
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Why not just get a 3D?
Whooo! (Cole Voice...)
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I want a smaller phone, that's my deal.. I'm sure I'll get the itch for better processing but I'll wait till mid next year and use my other upgrade for an LTE phone when its all up and running.
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A little more ram and a extra 200mhz on the CPU PLUS a smaller screen. Whats the point in buying it?
Seems like a waste of time and money.
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I'm just tired of carrying a brick around in my pants for now.. I'll root it, OC it to 1.5, rom, kernel, and it will be just perfect for me
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The global roaming capabilities seems interesting as well. I wonder how well that will work in gsm areas around me.
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I suspect that it will be as Sprint handled the GSM roaming on the TP2... i.e. it will not work on GSM in the US. The TP2 was SIM locked to only allow the GSM to work outside of the US.
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No, it's still single core, but I'm not THAT hardcore on my phone anyway.. with what I do with my phones, once I find the right rom and kernel combo I'm smooth sailing. I've got two upgrades in the waiting so I'm going to use one on this phone. I just want it for the smaller frame. Personally I think 4.0" is perfect. These new 4.5, and 4.7" screens coming out, might as well have a damn tablet pressed to your face
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Very good point! 4 inch is great. 4.3 is big enough.
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The global roaming capabilities seems interesting as well. I wonder how well that will work in gsm areas around me.
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Yea, man. If I did a lot of international travel I could see myself buying this phone.
I was reaaaally digging this phone when I first read about it and looked at the video on it by wirefly.
Im still luggin my tp2 around, but its just about had it, it freezes after every text, sometimes it even restarts
And thats bad since I get like.... upwards of 300 texts a day
in anycase.
When I compared the tp2 and the design side by side.. the screens width is almost exactly the same.
its just taller.
When compared side by side with the 3d.. it lags a bit when doing the caruswheel and unlocking.
But aside from all that it looked amazing.
the screen is very pretty and I love the design of it.. smooth and hints of curves.
The main thing killing it for the 3d is the design of it. Its suck a brick.. sharp edges.. and that cam buttun just jumps out into everyones buisness lol
That being said.. Im rally torn between the 2.
When Im in austin tomorrow Im going to have to check it out again cause the one here in ft hood was a little glitch. it doesnt even auto rotate or light up the notifications led.
OH and day one while I was playing with it, (since it didnt rotate) I checked for updates and It already has a softwear update LMAO
Why not get the Nexus S 4g? Its 4" and a great phone.
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Why not get the Nexus S 4g? Its 4" and a great phone.
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My gf has that phone.. she has alot of issues with it.
That and the release version has a bug where you cant send any text over the 160 charicter limit
3rd party apps dont help because even tho it lets her pass the charicter limit and 'chain' the messages like everyother phone does.. her phone will only send a "@" symble instead of the message everytime she passes the 160 limit of the phone.
And I text alot and send texts up to 400 charicters all the time.
So that wouldnt work for me
And as far as I can tell there wont be an official update for some time
I was thinking about getting the galexsy s ii epic 4g touch.. but dont really like the interface or the size. Its a tad too big in my opinion
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OH and day one while I was playing with it, (since it didnt rotate) I checked for updates and It already has a softwear update LMAO
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That is the security update for that leak they found last month.. they all got it..
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My gf has that phone.. she has alot of issues with it.
That and the release version has a bug where you cant send any text over the 160 charicter limit
3rd party apps dont help because even tho it lets her pass the charicter limit and 'chain' the messages like everyother phone does.. her phone will only send a "@" symble instead of the message everytime she passes the 160 limit of the phone.
And I text alot and send texts up to 400 charicters all the time.
So that wouldnt work for me
And as far as I can tell there wont be an official update for some time
I was thinking about getting the galexsy s ii epic 4g touch.. but dont really like the interface or the size. Its a tad too big in my opinion
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No update any time soon? ICS will likely hit the NS4G not too soon after the Galaxy Nexus is released. Probably early to mid December. The SMS issue is easily solved by integrating with Google Voice. SMSing is about million times better with GV than with anything else you'd try. Back up, online management, and now MMS support.
If you look hard enough a new/new-ish NS4G can be had for $200 on ebay. Not bad for a soon to be ICS, WiMax, and Google Wallet capable phone. I'm upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus if it comes to Sprint but I wouldn't have a single problem holding on to it for another couple of months if it doesn't.
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I'm just tired of carrying a brick around in my pants for now.. I'll root it, OC it to 1.5, rom, kernel, and it will be just perfect for me
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My ex used to have another name for that "brick in my pants."
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MicrosoftBug said:
My ex used to have another name for that "brick in my pants."
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Since she's an ex, I'm guessinggggg........................ small rock?
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Since she's an ex, I'm guessinggggg........................ small rock?
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lmao
anyway, the guys at the sprint store are saying the galexy nexus is set to his around november 15thish
As far as the nexus s 4g, I can get it for like 50 bucks from sprint cause of my sero upgrade price.
but her phones already running 2.3.7 and she has the texting issue, her phone freezes and restarts all the time, and she looses data randomly.
and its not just hers, her sister has the same phone with the same problems
I decided against the evo design. 100% no after looking at it at another storeyesturday, it only plays the left channel of any audio, I loaded multiple music videos on youtube of songs I normally listen to and I was only getting have the sounds out of the phones speaker.

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