Reposted on AC also,trying to get as many peoples input as possible!
Going to start of by saying this isnt a slam against Sprint. I was happy as hell to go back to them after having ATT with my iPhone. This post is to get a general feel for the speeds people are experiencing.
Sum it up as short as I can, I wanted to watch the Seahawks playoff game tonight, so I fired up the ole Slingplayer. To my disappointment, it looked like complete crap and was literally freezing up. So I decided to run a speedtest to see what kind of up/down speeds I was getting.
This is where it gets crappy. I had a friend with a DroidX on Verizon,and another friend with the Samsung Galaxy phone from AT&T next to me, and asked them to run a test also. Speeds were as follows
Verizon- 2.1mb down 950 up
AT&T- 2.3mb down 650 up
Sprint - 393kbps 655kbps up
Uh...yeah. So I ran it again,186kbps down 397 up...WTH
I know Sprint isnt exactly the best carrier and all (and yes I do still love em for the prices) but is the network THAT crappy?
Alittle info about my phone is this:
Android 2.2
2.15.00.11.19 Baseband
2.6.32.15 netarchy-toastmod 4.1.9.1 cfs
3.70.651.1 Build #
Azrael X 3.0
PRI 1.90.003
PRL 60674
I have tried to update my radios with the combo pack at first, but the radio itself stalled at Formatting Cache, so i tried to use them seperately, and once again, stalled at formatting. Everytime I try to update my radio (to actually have it run the full course), it stalls at the formatting part after the self reboot. I thought I would give it time, but 10min of sitting on that screen and nothing, I manually reboot and manually format cache thru recovery. I also updated my profiles each time I try to reinstall the radios.
Am I missing something here or doing something wrong? I know about tower signals and all, but since the area I live and work will NOT be getting 4G anytime soon (as its outside Milwaukee and 4G will not reach that far when and IF Milwaukee gets it), I would at least expect my 3G service to be better than that!
Don't feel so bad. I live in Milwaukee and...
About a year and half ago I could consistently hit 2 mbps on my Touch Pro / Diamond. Then a few months later I was down to about 1500 kbps, which was more then fine. About 6 months ago me and a friend (different plans etc) both started experiencing close to 400 kbps. On our TP2's. It has gotten much worse. I have an EvO, he has a TP2 still so it is not phone related. There are days I can't get above 47 kbps. Most of the time I seem to hover around 87-187 kbps. I have literally waited 2 minutes for webpages to load. And this has been going on for about the past 2 months. Numerous calls and troubleshooting has lead me to believe sprints network is just way to overloaded. I am about to leave Sprint and grab some t mobile and HSPDA+ love. I give till March 31st, only because someone I know claims Sprint 4G may become active here. Apparently there is already a network in place and it is a licensing issue. I doubt it is true, but that is how long I give sprint to get their network together.
Regrettably T Mobile isnt an option for me since I live out in the Falls. I have a store about a 5 min walk from me and the sales reps told me not to even bother about a year or so ago lol.
Even walking thru malls when those sales people approach me, all I say is I live in Meno Falls, and they stop the sales pitch lol
The formatting cache screen is normal, it should do that. It doesn't mean it froze. Just click reboot and you're good to go.
To the OP, your speeds are indicative of 3g (or less) speeds. Was the phone in 4g mode when you ran the test?
Sadly, sprint and verizon 4g technology is not compatible, otherwise swapping out to a verizon prl might be the trick.
Come to think of it, there was another thread here regarding using verizon's 3g even in areas where sprint does have coverage. Did you try that?
Around the oshkosh appleton area I get 300-1000 kbs down and around 700-800 up.
So wait. How can I piggyback off Verizon with a Sprint phone?? I know both are CDMA but thought theres a big difference between chipsets etc.
Oddly enough too I used to able to use my IPad sling player at work also, thought somewhat choppy at times,but it's NEVER been as bad as it's been the past week or so. I did read somewhere that people are having issues with the new radios so I wonder if that could be the culprit and if flashing to a previous radio would clear things up. Then again I think the 3.70 update requires the new radios to function properly though I could be wrong
Anyway back to crying over my non functioning sling players on iPad and Evo due to lack of any decent reliable bandwidth lol
It's not your radio. I've been running the same radio since the 3.29 update. I'm on the 3.70 build now but, the radio hasn't been updated. I used to get close to 1st meg down here in louisville but since christmas it's lucky to get 150 k.
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To the OP, your speeds are indicative of 3g (or less) speeds. Was the phone in 4g mode when you ran the test?
Sadly, sprint and verizon 4g technology is not compatible, otherwise swapping out to a verizon prl might be the trick.
Come to think of it, there was another thread here regarding using verizon's 3g even in areas where sprint does have coverage. Did you try that?
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Hey, we aren't talking of 4G. And no, his speeds are less then 3G. And the issue with Verizons PRL is if more then half or like 500MB is roaming data, then Sprint likes to terminate you.
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Around the oshkosh appleton area I get 300-1000 kbs down and around 700-800 up.
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Nice. What Radio/Rom? Not that it makes a diff.
Tower1972 said:
So wait. How can I piggyback off Verizon with a Sprint phone?? I know both are CDMA but thought theres a big difference between chipsets etc.
Oddly enough too I used to able to use my IPad sling player at work also, thought somewhat choppy at times,but it's NEVER been as bad as it's been the past week or so. I did read somewhere that people are having issues with the new radios so I wonder if that could be the culprit and if flashing to a previous radio would clear things up. Then again I think the 3.70 update requires the new radios to function properly though I could be wrong
Anyway back to crying over my non functioning sling players on iPad and Evo due to lack of any decent reliable bandwidth lol
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Not your radio. Several phones in my area do this.
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It's not your radio. I've been running the same radio since the 3.29 update. I'm on the 3.70 build now but, the radio hasn't been updated. I used to get close to 1st meg down here in louisville but since christmas it's lucky to get 150 k.
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You and me, in the same boat.
Milwaukee Area
I was recently up in the Milwaukee area over the holidays and the 3G was actually pretty solid at about 1 meg.
In KC, I am lucky to get 256 kb on any given day. Wisconsin doesn't have the 4G network yet - but honestly 4G is over rated (Great speeds if you are outside standing next to the tower and don't mind being tethered to an power outlet)
It is easy to forget that Sprint and other cell phone providers Internet access is still cell phone technology in a world of cable modems and DSL... That the speeds are comparible but there is cell phone "lag" due to the wireless transmissions. And that lag definately will be a factor in gaming and streaming video where packets have to be on time.
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In KC, I am lucky to get 256 kb on any given day. Wisconsin doesn't have the 4G network yet - but honestly 4G is over rated (Great speeds if you are outside standing next to the tower and don't mind being tethered to an power outlet)
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I think that's more of a Wi-Max issue than Sprint. LTE doesn't have that problem because they operate at a higher frequency. I believe Sprint and Clear are going to switch to LTE and that might actually be the reason for the delay in some areas. I read an article yesterday about Clear having an LTE network running in Phoenix right now with speeds touching 90 megabits. Google it.
As for my speeds in Brookfield the best I got today was 787 down and 621 up. That's been normal for me.
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Hey, we aren't talking of 4G. And no, his speeds are less then 3G. And the issue with Verizons PRL is if more then half or like 500MB is roaming data, then Sprint likes to terminate you.
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Indeed. Bottom end of 3g. Fwiw, this little tweak might help
##3282# from the phone menu
advanced
look at the bottom, http pd proxy port and proxy address
I changed mint to
port:0
proxy: 0.0.0.0
I was having issues with shoutcast streaming in winamp and other programs. This change bypasses the proxy, but may also help in the op's case.
DOh! Forgot about that... It's right there in sprint's terms and [email protected]# So really, such use is suitable when traveling, where bulk of the data usage is in a sprint market. But where less than majority (49%?) is while roaming. Of course the 49% is my interpretation. They don't really define what majority means.
http://shop.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml
Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. The display on your device may not always be on and will not indicate whether you will incur roaming charges. You can monitor usage online through My Account. Roaming is not available with single-band phones, or to customers who reside or whose primary use is outside an area covered by the Nationwide Sprint Network. Sprint may limit or terminate service if you move outside of the Sprint owned-network.
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I got my Nexus One AT&T last week and promptly moved my Sim from my rooted Rogers G1 into the Nexus One.
My GF now has the rooted rogers G1 with the dumb-phone data plan. This is the one that costs $15 for dumb phones and $10 if you have a family plan.
I was forced to move my N1 to the $30 data plan because I was having some service issues and they re-activated my sim.
So here's where it gets interesting. I wanted to see if the N1 really did have worse reception than the G1 (which appears it doesn't). I installed the speedtest.net app on both phones.
So, I've got the latest CyanogenMod for N1, and she's got the latest for G1.
Her speeds would not go over 384kbit (or so) up or down, no matter what. The N1 on the $30 plan can consistently best 2Mbit right next to the G1
Keep in mind that this is the G1 from Canada that is compatible with AT&T 3G. Previously, the G1 never had an issue going over 1.5Mbit. I hadn't tested the G1's speed since last year.
I've test it again and again, and it appears that while some may be excited they can be grandfathered AT&T cheap data plan, AT&T they got wise and started throttling the bandwidth.
One caveat, is this may not be in all markets. This was tested in the Salt Lake City market.
I assume this will eventually be in all markets if not already.
Let the conspiracy begin.
-James
Interesting. I'll have to test my Telus Hero and see what I can get out of it.
Switch sim cards and try it again. I doubt it's AT&T; probably the G1 isn't doing HSDPA for some reason.
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Switch sim cards and try it again. I doubt it's AT&T; probably the G1 isn't doing HSDPA for some reason.
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I will switch when I get home. Sure will be interesting if the N1 suddenly caps.
I was hoping someone else could test this.
I'm also going to say that I doubt this is the case.
The G1 probably has HSDPA disabled. 384kbps is the theoretical max for UMTS (with no HSDPA) so that would make sense...
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I will switch when I get home. Sure will be interesting if the N1 suddenly caps.
I was hoping someone else could test this.
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I'm in Austin, TX and I have an N1 on AT&T's $15 dumbphone data plan. I just ran 4 tests in rush hour getting 300-900 kbit down and 700-900 kbit up. Late last night I was getting closer to 2 Mbit down.
IIRC, the G1 only supports UMTS and not HSDPA, versus the 7.2mb HSDPA in the Nexus One. I don't think it's AT&T at all.
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IIRC, the G1 only supports UMTS and not HSDPA, versus the 7.2mb HSDPA in the Nexus One. I don't think it's AT&T at all.
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No this is not so. I use to be over a megabit repeatedly on this G1. Also Cyanogen's roms modified the build.prop for the phones radio settings to enable 7.2MBit (i.e. Category 6 HSDPA)
-James
not possible.
First, I'm getting over a meg and a half with mine.
Second, that's the same plan that people are using for streaming videos, music, TV, etc. 384k couldn't handle it.
-Mc
Just got the Nexus One a few days ago on ATT
I did a speed test with the stock rom and got about 1.5mbps down
Yesterday I flashed to Cyanogen 5.0.5.3. I don't get the 3G icon anymore and now get the "H"
I did a speed test and would consistently get 350ish
But even when the severe drop in speed all of a sudden, I watch youtube videos in high quality with barely any buffering and download things extremely fast. So I don't think the speed test is reliable or the new rom has had some kind of wierd effect
N1 does have some RF problems. It consistently scores lower than my Milestone in speedtests. Where reception is great though, it'll shine.
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N1 does have some RF problems. It consistently scores lower than my Milestone in speedtests. Where reception is great though, it'll shine.
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My N1 consistently scores faster than my rooted Rogers G1.
False alarm.
I don't know what the hell was going on, but I retested the Rogers G1 and was hitting 1.5mbit.
I can't explain why it did it that one day, I haven't changed anything.
Maybe it's a sign of things to come but for now, the dumb-phone plan is back to full speed.
-James
Why are you complaining about the "dumb phone plan"? It's $15 - $20 cheaper. And, as you discovered, it was a false alarm...
I mean, if they were to restrict it, then yeah, I'd be pretty pissed, and force it over to a SmartPhone data plan. But oh well, it's not. I am in Indianapolis and tested the Chicago, IL server and got 2.5 down and 1.2 up. I've noticed a lot of these servers on the speed test program and ****. They don't work very well half the time, and they are all slow as hell. So maybe that's what was wrong with yours.
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Why are you complaining about the "dumb phone plan"? It's $15 - $20 cheaper. And, as you discovered, it was a false alarm...
I mean, if they were to restrict it, then yeah, I'd be pretty pissed, and force it over to a SmartPhone data plan. But oh well, it's not. I am in Indianapolis and tested the Chicago, IL server and got 2.5 down and 1.2 up. I've noticed a lot of these servers on the speed test program and ****. They don't work very well half the time, and they are all slow as hell. So maybe that's what was wrong with yours.
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I'm not complaining. I thought was being restricted and was sharing information. I use the $30 data plan on my phone and it works just fine. I'm quote satisfied it was a false alarm.
-James
For the sake of the thread, I thought it relevant to mention I'm on the $10 family data plan with smartphone exclusion and typically get 3mbps down.
Well supposedly AT&T is rolling out a software fix to fix upload speeds.
Funny thing is... for a few days my upload speed was fixed.
Now all of a sudden I can't break 200kbit up again.
But iPhone4 users around me can hit 1.4Mbit up all day long.
For those of you that can not hit HSUPA speeds, I wonder if you have iPhone4 friends you can check with.
If AT&T is indeed disabling HSUPA by device or IMEI, then I want to know about it.
It seems they gimped the Captivate so it couldn't do HSUPA (read the forum) so why not screw the Nexus One users too.
I know some of you will post that your HSUPA speeds are great, but you are people that are probably not served by Lucent equipment.
If you did have upload issues, and they are now fixed, I'de like to hear about that too, maybe AT&T is doing something else funky on a per market basis where it's prioritizing crying iPhone users where it doesn't have enough HSUPA capacity or something.
EDIT: My location is Salt Lake City
-James
i suggest you also post your location as well so it ads the detail necessary to make a conclusion. of course my speeds are fine here in socal with a nexus one. no cap or upload limitation or anything yet.
Location is Salt Lake City
I test all the time with a friend of mine, we generally have the same results.
louisiana, att 3g.
Yesterday here at work in Central KY I was seeing 2/.2 mbit in Speedtest, today I'm getting 2.2/1mbit.
What's odd is 2-3 days ago, I was seeing the typical HSUPA speed but yesterday was horribly slow. Only reason I really noticed was because I was messing with wifi sharing and seeing how fast it was. Heh, just did wifi sharing, 3.7/1.2.
I've done it several times, uplink still seems weird.. One time it'll hover around .5mbit, then jump up to 1.2 for a few seconds, then back to .5. Next time I ran it it stayed at 1.2 the whole time. Next time .5 the whole time.
100% sure I'm not jumping towers, mine is very close to work. However, there's lots of folks on AT&T here at work so never know what the utilization of the tower is.
To be fair, I have to say that all of a sudden, I just posted 1405kbit up... But I doubt it will last. I would hope that whatever fix is happening will be for all users, but I am still doubting AT&T sincerity.
But I still think it's a valid question... are these AT&T upgrades targeted to fix certain devices in waves? Are others, like iPhone 4's being prioritized?
Seems weird that my phone won't break 200k, when an iPhone 4 will still break 1mbit all day long.
Could there still be prioritization going on based on device? Like say iPhone users made the news so they are getting bandwidth priority?
-James
I'm not certain why, but I've been getting abysmal upload speeds for the past few days.
I'm located near Milwaukee, WI. Last few speed tests averaged out to 1.6mbs/.34mbs.
EarthsiegeTA said:
I'm not certain why, but I've been getting abysmal upload speeds for the past few days.
I'm located near Milwaukee, WI. Last few speed tests averaged out to 1.6mbs/.34mbs.
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You could just be a victum of the HSUPA bug that AT&T claims they are in the process of fixing.
Are their any iPhone4 users around you having the same difficulty?
-James
Realistically, the only device that truly needs that fast HSUPA on at&t's network is the iPhone 4. The reason I say that is, it's currently their only device with video calling where that upload will really make a difference (besides data sticks and netbooks of course). Maybe they are randomly capping other devices uplink speed.
Mi|enko said:
Realistically, the only device that truly needs that fast HSUPA on at&t's network is the iPhone 4. The reason I say that is, it's currently their only device with video calling where that upload will really make a difference (besides data sticks and netbooks of course). Maybe they are randomly capping other devices uplink speed.
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Well that's certainly one way to look at it but consider something else.
iPhone 4 users, and all other smartphone users who pay that $30, or $25, or $15... would then not be treated fairly.
Why do I get less service for paying the same $30/month the iPhone4 user pays?
This is blatantly wrong in my opinion. I'm paying for a service the same as iPhone4 users. In fact it's suppose to be the same service, that's why I started this thread in the first place.
There are apps like Fring on the Android Market that can make use of that higher upload speed, and let's not forget that the iPhone can't make Face Time calls over 3G as of yet unless it's jail-broken.
Now if it was clearly advertised that as an iPhone4 users you were going to receive preference, then I would have had a fair chance to make the decision as to which device would provide me the best upload, all the while paying the same $30 per month.
I don't think AT&T deserves to be allowed be deceptive in such a way.
Don't you want your service you're paying for?
In fact look at AT&T's website... it clearly states...
"typical upload speeds of 500 Kbps to 1.2 Mbps on compatible devices for our current 3G network*"
and...
"*Referenced speeds require an HSDPA 3.6Mbps/HSUPA capable device with Receive Diversity and/or Equalizer. AT&T is deploying HSUPA throughout the 3G footprint, HSUPA may not currently be available in all 3G areas."
It doesn't say... "Only for special people who worship Steve Jobs", it says for HSUPA capable devices.
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/built-for-business/network.jsp
-James
I highly doubt they are capping anything.
The video calling on the iPhone is WiFi only unless you jailbreak.
That said, I've been having the same issue. In fact, I went to return my wife's Aria because she wants to see if a high end phone comes for AT&T and while there, the sales guy saw my Nexus One and we talked about it. He said if I gave him my IMEI it would communicate better with the cell towers. My phone was fine but I figured what the hell, let's try it. And **** has been unstable ever since. I do speedtest and I get 64kbps down, 1.6megs up. Or they're both under 200kbits. It's driving me crazy. I work in downtown Chicago and it's pissing me off because I'm the IT Manager for my company and I need to get emails immediately. I've come back from lunch to find out **** happened in the office but my phone's data was so slow that it couldn't sync emails.
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I highly doubt they are capping anything.
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I'm not 100% they are capping anything, but I'm putting out my observations and seeing what others experiences are.
AT&T has my IMEI number and as of this afternoon my upload has stabalized over 1mbit.
I would like this to be for all N1 users of course. Sure is wierd that my iPhone friends saw the improvement before I did.
-James
Memnoch30 said:
The video calling on the iPhone is WiFi only unless you jailbreak.
That said, I've been having the same issue. In fact, I went to return my wife's Aria because she wants to see if a high end phone comes for AT&T and while there, the sales guy saw my Nexus One and we talked about it. He said if I gave him my IMEI it would communicate better with the cell towers. My phone was fine but I figured what the hell, let's try it. And **** has been unstable ever since. I do speedtest and I get 64kbps down, 1.6megs up. Or they're both under 200kbits. It's driving me crazy. I work in downtown Chicago and it's pissing me off because I'm the IT Manager for my company and I need to get emails immediately. I've come back from lunch to find out **** happened in the office but my phone's data was so slow that it couldn't sync emails.
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I have been experiencing strange behavior as well where I am getting 1.6 (or a bit less) up and half the speed down.
Hopefully it's a symptom of implementing a fix and not a permanent situation.
EDIT: my download is highly irregular so I don't think it proves much.
-James
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You could just be a victum of the HSUPA bug that AT&T claims they are in the process of fixing.
Are their any iPhone4 users around you having the same difficulty?
-James
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Yeah, that's possible. I'm hoping that's what it is.
No, I don't know anyone with an iPhone 4. The only person I knew with an iPhone previous to the iPhone 4, I managed to talk into an HTC Evo.
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I'm not 100% they are capping anything, but I'm putting out my observations and seeing what others experiences are.
AT&T has my IMEI number and as of this afternoon my upload has stabalized over 1mbit.
I would like this to be for all N1 users of course. Sure is wierd that my iPhone friends saw the improvement before I did.
-James
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Maybe it just had something to do with your DNS cache or something..
Also ATT doesn't have my IMEI.
What speed test tool do you all use? I tend to get better upload results with speedtest.net than i do with xtremelabs.
just ran both.
speedtest.net app
2246 dn 949 up
2283 dn 1230 up
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2105 dn 393 up
1207 dn 409 up
Springfield IL
I personally use SpeedTest, but I'm getting tired of the issue with getting servers a couple states away.
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I personally use SpeedTest, but I'm getting tired of the issue with getting servers a couple states away.
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You need to allow your GPS to lock before you'll get servers closer to you.
-James
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What speed test tool do you all use? I tend to get better upload results with speedtest.net than i do with xtremelabs.
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Springfield IL
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I have never had good luck with xtremelabs.
Speedtest.net usually provides more consistent results.
The company that provides it has a pretty large network for speed testing. The FCC speedtest app is provided by them, for what it's worth.
-James
Though T-mobile boasts a significant 4g area, there are still many areas that do not even support 3g. Such as mine in the North Florida, Pensacola area. I knew before I signed up that the coverage said it was Mobile web, clearly the lower of the 3 options in my area but I wasn't prepared for that suckfest this is. Running speed tests I average about 0.05mbps down speeds and 0.11 up speeds via speedtest.net's app. The old 56K modems were 0.05mbps, so effectively I have a 56K connection speed. Why is this so bad when there are areas that are sporting upwards of 10mbps? And as far as the throttling over 5gbs, I don't seem to use more than 1gb, and that's pressing it, most of the time I use my home wireless but I couldn't imagine this speed being throttled if I cross that cap, what the hell would they dock me down to? A 14.4 connection?
Many people will claim T-Mobile's EDGE network sucks. Perhaps this is true, but I think it has more to do with the G2's radio.
I get similar edge speeds on my G2 as my old G1 or Dash (when i force the G2 to 2g only speeds) around 200-300kb/s......if you CONSISTANTLY get .05Mb/s or less, you can call t-mobile technical and report abnormal speeds at your address....have them create a work order.....I live in a 4G 'hole' that should be covered, and just had t-mobile create a work order (i have a work order number).....if my speeds don't improve in the next week, I will follow up.....I am only getting 1 Mb/sec when I should get many times that (and I do, except here at my home.....and the coverage map claims 4G speeds at this address)
Those speeds sound about right for Edge. That's what I get whenever I get stuck with that network.
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I get similar edge speeds on my G2 as my old G1 or Dash (when i force the G2 to 2g only speeds) around 200-300kb/s......if you CONSISTANTLY get .05Mb/s or less, you can call t-mobile technical and report abnormal speeds at your address....have them create a work order.....I live in a 4G 'hole' that should be covered, and just had t-mobile create a work order (i have a work order number).....if my speeds don't improve in the next week, I will follow up.....I am only getting 1 Mb/sec when I should get many times that (and I do, except here at my home.....and the coverage map claims 4G speeds at this address)
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I would say they are cosistently .05mbps, I'm a bit concerned about talking to anyone at tmobile about anything after my visit to get screen protectors and absently asked if they had been getting a lot of people returning g2s because of the hinges. The sales rep said "no not that I know of but you're supposed to be getting an ota to fix messaging problems" and clearly this guy was a robot with no basic conversation skills because I said "I don't see what a software fix has anything to do with a hardware issue" and his response was "of course but the ota also allows you to make wifi calls on any open wireless network". At this point I just said thanks and left. This was in person, not over the phone and I bet if I gave the guy that toy that teaches kids how to put a square block in a square hole he would fail miserably.
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Though T-mobile boasts a significant 4g area, there are still many areas that do not even support 3g. Such as mine in the North Florida, Pensacola area. I knew before I signed up that the coverage said it was Mobile web, clearly the lower of the 3 options in my area but I wasn't prepared for that suckfest this is. Running speed tests I average about 0.05mbps down speeds and 0.11 up speeds via speedtest.net's app. The old 56K modems were 0.05mbps, so effectively I have a 56K connection speed. Why is this so bad when there are areas that are sporting upwards of 10mbps? And as far as the throttling over 5gbs, I don't seem to use more than 1gb, and that's pressing it, most of the time I use my home wireless but I couldn't imagine this speed being throttled if I cross that cap, what the hell would they dock me down to? A 14.4 connection?
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I feel you, I live about 2 hours away (PCB) and we're just now getting 3g. T-Mobile needs to worry about getting 3g everywhere before worrying about 4g
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I feel you, I live about 2 hours away (PCB) and we're just now getting 3g. T-Mobile needs to worry about getting 3g everywhere before worrying about 4g
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You have 3g now? I've been reading over posts from the past 2 years that say my area is "coming soon", like the last 2 years its been "coming soon". I've also read that the naval and air force base frequencies in this area make anything above Edge impossible.
Yeah in certain areas they have 3g, but mostly it is just edge.
waffleman911 said:
Yeah in certain areas they have 3g, but mostly it is just edge.
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What's your up and down with the speedtest.net app on 3g and edge?
aeidian said:
You have 3g now? I've been reading over posts from the past 2 years that say my area is "coming soon", like the last 2 years its been "coming soon". I've also read that the naval and air force base frequencies in this area make anything above Edge impossible.
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That's really true air force have priority channel among all consumer and industrial tech for frequency usage. Nothing can go against them. That is hard facts when u work for military communication unit.
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What's your up and down with the speedtest.net app on 3g and edge?
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I cant test 3g right now because I dont get it at my house but I'll try and do it tomorrow. and I'll post edge and 3g hopefully tomorrow
I was in the mall today and stopped in to ask about the 3g/4g thing in this area and she straight up told me its military issues. She said 2014 before their contract is up, and there's nothing to say they won't just renew it. Looks like I'll just ebay this phone and go sign a contract with Verizon. G2 is my first smartphone, and I love it. I didn't know anything about all this 3g/4g stuff before hand, but its gotten to the point that it annoys me to have such ****ty data speeds, and now that I know it won't be changed until 3 years from now if even then, or I move I'm pretty done with it. 20 bucks more a month I could have an equally good phone and a decent network speed.
The chick told me they do have the edge network here, like that was some great accomplishment, and its "almost 3g". I don't know what 3g speeds are but I'm betting they're not less than 1mbps. In the heart of pensacola I hit 0.17mbps data speed, so that's like saying windows 3.11 is "almost" windows xp. Damn disappointing for such a kickass phone. If I lived in a 4g area I would be euphoric.
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Been having horrable data speeds on 3g the past 3-4 months. And ive been calling and complaining everytime i have problems and making note of when i called sprint and what was done to the account. I have tried everything they asked including going to the store and getting a refurbed evo. But at the store when i got the refub i dled speedtest and got the same results...so i told them to keep it and give me my original phone back.
Point of this post is to DEFINATLY call and complain...dont let it go and look it over. Take notes on what they said and did to your account and spit it back at them the next time you call. They wanna charge me an etf for something that is not my fault since i want to cancel. I wont accept that...this is there problem...i shouldnt pay for full service if i aint getting it or be punished for cancelling when it is a problem on there end. Here is notes from todays convo with them as an example for others that should do the same. It may be the only way for them to fix there service or the only way they look at you and be like...hes to much of a pain in the ass to keep him so let him go. I will continue to call and complain until it is hopefully fixed or worst case they cancell my contract...todays notes.
Feb 15 spoke to 3 sprint reps and 1 supervisor in the cancellation dept..had my bill adusted to 101.09 dollars for poor service the past 3-4 months. So far total credits issued for poor data the past 4 months is $16 for invisable screen protecter..$20 for data booster at home...$30 for a credit issued for january for poor data speeds and $36 today for february's bill of poor data speeds. Total of $102.00
I've also noticed slower speeds for some time now, along with my home comcast internet. too many people online these days? (my internet used to be blaazzzing fast for 9 years!)
This has happened to me since November. I got my evo on launch day, and was getting great speeds, about 1500kbps down consistently. One day in November, my 3g crapped out. Since then, sprint has given me 6 phones, 3 refurbs and 3 brand new ones. All have the same problem. This leads me to believe its a network problem, I mean how could 7 phones have the same exact problem. But, my friend has an evo, and side by side his is normal, while I get less than 70kbps. And the evo's in the sprint store are fine as well, along with all the other phone models.
I have spent HOURS and HOURS on the phone trying to get this taken care of. I'm not trying to get anything from sprint, I just want my 3g to work. I love the evo, and I love sprint's coverage in my area.
They have given me 6 phones, and I haven't paid my bill in 3 months, since they keep giving me credits since they cant figure out the problem. I really could care less, I just want my 3g to work correctly.
So no, it really DOESN'T pay to complain. I have spent hours of my life complaining about this, and have gotten nowhere.
Same thing here. My 3G data speeds crapped out last November also. Sprint has no idea what the problem could be. I think everybody who is experiencing slower than normal data should raise serious hell with Sprint every single day. This is NOT a coincidence. I suspect something fishy is going on and I'm not going to pay these premium unlimited data fees for terrible 3G data speeds! I'm going to demand Sprint to credit my account 50% every month until they turn 3G back on like it used to be. If not I want out of my contract. Either way I can easily sell my two EVO's on Craigslist to cover the etf's.
I can't watch Sprint TV, YouTube, or stream any online video content. Web browsing is VERY slow. My data speeds have gone from 1.6mbps to .30kbps since last November and now I never get speed results faster than .76kbps on a good day. It seems like Sprint flipped a switch one day out of the blue and data speeds went to **** ever since.
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Same thing here. My 3G data speeds crapped out last November also. Sprint has no idea what the problem could be. I think everybody who is experiencing slower than normal data should raise serious hell with Sprint every single day. This is NOT a coincidence. I suspect something fishy is going on and I'm not going to pay these premium unlimited data fees for terrible 3G data speeds! I'm going to demand Sprint to credit my account 50% every month until they turn 3G back on like it used to be. If not I want out of my contract. Either way I can easily sell my two EVO's on Craigslist to cover the etf's.
I can't watch Sprint TV, YouTube, or stream any online video content. Web browsing is VERY slow. My data speeds have gone from 1.6mbps to .30kbps since last November and now I never get speed results faster than .76kbps on a good day. It seems like Sprint flipped a switch one day out of the blue and data speeds went to **** ever since.
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What happened was more people got on the data network and Sprint hasn't invested in capacity like Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T has to support more 3G data traffic.
What's the best internetz speed tester?
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Search tbe market for speed test
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Have you tried this?
Avalaunchmods said:
PLEASE READ L-E-T-T-E-R FOR L-E-T-T-E-R, W-O-R-D FOR W-O-R-D.
As we all know, HTC and Sprint borked downloads for apps like Rhapsody, Mog, Thumbplay.
I recently ran across the subject and i found a fix. It is very simple.
1. Get your MSL, There are many ways, call Sprint, Download the app MSL Reader from the market, CDMA workshop
2. After you have your MSL go to your phone and type ##3282#
3. Click Edit Mode
4. Click Advanced
5. Scroll down to HTTP PD Proxy Port & HTTP PD Proxy Address
6. Change HTTP PD Proxy Port to 0 (zero)
7. Change HTTP PD Proxy Address to 0.0.0.0
8. Go enjoy Downloads and a .20-.60 mbps increase in 3G speeds!
-All credit to original finder of this fix, i am just passing it along and found the speed increase. Also when you flash a new rom it will back to old settings so remember to re-apply and it wont make you more vulnerable to anything.
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The Proxy changes do indeed help. Be sure to give them a try. That being said. my 3G and 4G data speeds are roughly half of what they were four months ago (Baltimore market). The only thing that has not changed is my RSSI or signal strength which comes in at -62.00 dBm every day, all day. The Rx signal to noise ratio has been reading "Not ready" for the past couple of months. What happened to it? How do I calculate CINR without this part of the equation?
I've complained numerous times about my poor signal coverage and pour 3g and ay first they gave me a airvana airave unit which really doesn't work to well with the evo..... but at least they did something....
I have an Airwave on the way. Sprint has also credited a month's bill yet again. Let's hope Sprint/Clear can get their collective acts together soon.
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For slow 3G speed, an Airvana is not the answer for the simple fact that it hooks into your existing broadband connection.. you could just get a WiFi router.
That's what I told them. They said it was an "Airwave 2.0" and acts like a repeater of the 3G signal. Either way, it is of no cost to me. It does show a willingness of Sprint to work with me, even if the proposed solution is no solution.
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It's obvious the more people who start using smartphones will start to slow down the service, but its the same with Comcast internet as much as I hate it. The companies all get u with the little filler words "up to". The speeds are not and never will be garunteed, at least not in the near future. Let's just hope these clowns actually give us TRUE 4g speeds in the next few years(70-100Mbps) as the technology grows.
Not 100% true. My company says up to as well, but its only allowed to be 5-10 percent off that speed, otherwise they send someone out.
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Not 100% true. My company says up to as well, but its only allowed to be 5-10 percent off that speed, otherwise they send someone out.
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I mean there is wiggle room. But when a company says 20Mbps and u only get 13, u r within that range u are talking about. I know Comcast, if u pay for 20mbps service, u can be getting 12 and they can do nothing about it on their end. It's because some units share a single.signal, same with cell towers, the more people using , the slower it'll be. And grandma and grandpa are starting to get smartphones, so it'll keep getting slower unless sprint stays on top of their game.
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For slow 3G speed, an Airvana is not the answer for the simple fact that it hooks into your existing broadband connection.. you could just get a WiFi router.
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Yeah pretty much if you have a WiFi capable device.
I've gone from amazing 3G reception to constant dropouts and I work downtown Chicago across from the Sears Tower...I have no idea what has happened but being connected to 3G is hit or miss.
They also sent me an airave, which did indeed help in my home. But that does nothing outside of my home. Also, if the 3g works with the airave, that should mean that there is no problem with the 3g radio, so its not a hardware problem, but a network problem.
It's obvious the more people who start using smartphones will start to slow down the service
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I dont think this is the problem. As I stated earlier, two of my friends have evo's, and side by side, their two get normal speeds, while mine gets crap. Also, in the sprint store, I tested their display evo, just fine, and a few other random phones, all were fine.
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I've gone from amazing 3G reception to constant dropouts and I work downtown Chicago across from the Sears Tower...I have no idea what has happened but being connected to 3G is hit or miss.
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I live in the north subs and my parents are downtown Lake n Deerborn, and my parents phones have been crap lately too. Maybe sprint is over emphasizing the 4G downtown(much faster there then where I'm at) and could be messing w 3G speeds. Probably not the exact case but I can see sprint concentrating highly on 4G where it is abundant and short changing 3G a little bit.
I'm no pro so don't take my theory to heart, just thoughts.
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Is anyone having any major radio problems recently? I heard a few days ago something happened with Sprints network, but haven't verified it.
I'm currently running CM7-n94 and the past few days my 3g speeds using speed test are in the double digits! O_O I mean to say like 87b/s. It's worthless for me to even use the browser now if I'm not using wifi.
I'm flashing back to Froyo STOCK right now, (leaving it S-OFF) and calling sprint to complain.
Two Questions:
1.) Anyone else recently having really piss poor (more than usual) data speeds with 3G?
2.) Can I update to the OTA the from Froyo stock with S-OFF and still be rooted?
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Is anyone having any major radio problems recently? I heard a few days ago something happened with Sprints network, but haven't verified it.
I'm currently running CM7-n94 and the past few days my 3g speeds using speed test are in the double digits! O_O I mean to say like 87b/s. It's worthless for me to even use the browser now if I'm not using wifi.
I'm flashing back to Froyo STOCK right now, (leaving it S-OFF) and calling sprint to complain.
Two Questions:
1.) Anyone else recently having really piss poor (more than usual) data speeds with 3G?
2.) Can I update to the OTA the from Froyo stock with S-OFF and still be rooted?
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1. There are some cities that are subject to some slow speeds. Where are you located?
2. As long as your radio is s-off you're good to go.
About 5 miles from Center City Philadelphia.
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About 5 miles from Center City Philadelphia.
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Haven't ever read any complaints from anyone in Pennsylvania.
Try updating your prl and data profile.
Maybe call Sprint as well.
You could also completely unroot back to 3.70 and then reroot and see if it might help.
Also, updating your radios to the latest.
There's a thread in the development section.
I'm mobile or I'd give you a link.
Oh, ya, been there and done all that. This is even my 3rd EVO and I've never been able to break the 250-300k/bs limit on any of them, but this 87 is just getting ridiculous.
So sprint is sending me an Airave, but the guy said it's most likely not going to fix my problem. My next solution is to argue my way out of the contract and go with a more reliable carrier... Sadly there are no other phones out I want right now.
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So sprint is sending me an Airave, but the guy said it's most likely not going to fix my problem. My next solution is to argue my way out of the contract and go with a more reliable carrier... Sadly there are no other phones out I want right now.
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"reliable carrier" changes per the area you live.
If you make a note of the issue and it isn't fixed within a reasonable amount of time they will waive your ETF as they are technically violating the contract.
Akron, Ohio here and my data speeds have been crap all day. Phone keeps pulsing between 0 and 2 bars, but never seems to lock on to the tower reliably.
Akron, Ohio here and my data speeds have been crap all day. Phone keeps pulsing between 0 and 2 bars, but never seems to lock on to the tower reliably.
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Could just be a temporary area issue.
Personally, my data speeds absolutely SUCKED on the 05.02 radio. Ive since flashed back to 04.08 and all is well.
It's been a while, but one evening a 6 pack of beer and I sat down and flashed every single radio, and did 3 speed tests on each radio combo. Took about 2 hours all done and said, but there never was a huge difference.
The sprint rep said my location should have full coverage (I live in NJ, right outside of Philadelphia. Every carrier has full coverage here). I asked him what the average 3G speeds were, and he said I should be getting anywhere between 600kb/s and 1.2Mb/s.
I've never seen either of those numbers except when I use 4G. Keep in mind that I've used this phone everywhere from Utah, Colorado, NC, VA, DC, NYC, Philly, Trenton, etc and it's all the same. I, as the Spring rep, would like to blame the hardware, but this is the 3rd Evo I've had in a year.
My 4G speeds are usually about 2.5Mb/s. Friend of mine has the Atrix and he's getting 2.5Mb/s on 3G as AT&T hasn't rolled their 4G network out yet. I also have a friend with a Thunderbolt, and he's getting ~22Mb/s average. (Yes, that's Twenty Two)
So, again, as far as I'm concerned, the Evo is the best phone on the market still, however the service is a deal breaker for me.
I'm going to try this Airave thing out, but if it doesn't work I'm going to be shopping/waiting for the next LTE phone assuming Verizon gets a phone that's worth half a crap.
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This won't help at all but I need to add that I've switched from T-mobile to Sprint, and the 3G speed of T-mobile was incredibly fast in NYC. Sprint was bareable, but since the update it's been speeds of 0.19Mbs d/l and around 0.15Mbs up. It sucks because at my job I'm indoors with no 4G around so I'm confined to 3G. But at school when I have 4G full blast it's almost close to fiber optic speed.