What made you choose the G2/Desire Z? - G2 and Desire Z General

I didnt want to get the G2 at first since I was just infatuated with the vibrants screen but once I got to play with it I needed to have it!
So what made you choose the G2? And how long are you gonna stick with it?
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I just love it
My last 2 phones were a HTC Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2. With both I felt I had never would need another phone.
Well, more and more things were coming to Android only, a lot of apps (Facebook, maps, google's native things) look and work a whole lot better on android, so I thought to switch. I drooled over having 720p HD video.
I wanted to stick with a qwerty.
These all made me want a Desire Z.
...and Santa brought me one... ))

I chosed da g2 after droping my mt3G on the toilet. At first I wanted the vibrant but after reading and seen pics of the g2 it was a perfect match this phone has everythig I hoped for and more rooted about 5 minutes after getting it lol
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moolash said:
My last 2 phones were a HTC Kaiser and a Touch Pro 2. With both I felt I had never would need another phone.
Well, more and more things were coming to Android only, a lot of apps (Facebook, maps, google's native things) look and work a whole lot better on android, so I thought to switch. I drooled over having 720p HD video.
I wanted to stick with a qwerty.
These all made me want a Desire Z.
...and Santa brought me one... ))
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I swear, for a minute I thought your reply was my reply.
Just like you, I went form a kaiser to the TP2 and now the Desire Z. Just like you, I thought my previous phones were the mother of all inventions and I wouldnt need another phone in my lifetime . I would have upgraded in November but I thought I would just hold on to the TP2 until the middle of this year but the dreaded newton rings appeared on the TP2 last week (2nd time in 6months) so I was 'forced' to upgrade. I also must have a physical keyboard but I flirted with the Desire HD and Nexus S. The DHD was just too big and the NS didnt have a keyboard. Despite all the noise about the hinge, I bit the bullet and got the Desire Z and I thank gooness I did. Absolutely no regrets. My TP2 now feels like an early 90s phone.
Just in case anyone is interested, my TP2 with a brand new screen and absolutely no scratches + all accessories and an 8GB microSD card is up for sale @ £150.

HTC DZ
lombardo8 said:
I swear, for a minute I thought your reply was my reply.
Just like you, I went form a kaiser to the TP2 and now the Desire Z. Just like you, I thought my previous phones were the mother of all inventions and I wouldnt need another phone in my lifetime . I would have upgraded in November but I thought I would just hold on to the TP2 until the middle of this year but the dreaded newton rings appeared on the TP2 last week (2nd time in 6months) so I was 'forced' to upgrade. I also must have a physical keyboard but I flirted with the Desire HD and Nexus S. The DHD was just too big and the NS didnt have a keyboard. Despite all the noise about the hinge, I bit the bullet and got the Desire Z and I thank gooness I did. Absolutely no regrets. My TP2 now feels like an early 90s phone.
Just in case anyone is interested, my TP2 with a brand new screen and absolutely no scratches + all accessories and an 8GB microSD card is up for sale @ £150.
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I have to admit I use the qwerty keyboard less frequently on the DZ.
Reason one: it's good to type with touch input, it even support X9 in Hungarian (while the qwerty supports English only) so it completes a lot of words right.
Reason two: I donno if this is a question of getting used to it or not, but the keyboard is a lot worse than on the TP2. I wouldn't dis it, neither the hinge, cause it's not a problem either. It's just more awkward typing on it, plus special chars in hungarian work different than previously on the TP2.
I do not regret the TP2. There are soooo many advantages of the DZ and Android they make me forget the front camera, too.

It was the only decent device my carrier offered other than the SGS which suffered the all too well known corrupted SD due to samsung failure.
I was never too crazy about the keyboard, but have grown to like and use it.
I do miss the SA screen, screen dimensions, and the device dimensions, - but the usability added by sense is amazing. Plus the DZ seems to be much faster and more stable to me based purely on my own usage.

I've gone through so many phones and the g2 impressed me so much that I had to get it. And the fact that it was one of the first phone compatible with hspa.
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I'm coming from the touch pro 2. I was looking to stick with the physical keyboard and it takes a while to get to the one on the g2. I wanted a phone to have wifi calling since I do not get any service in some of my classes at college. Android apps are no iphone apps but they work. Windows mobile is highly customizable and I like being able to have the option to do so on the G2 if ever needed. I will hold on to my G2 for as long as I can or till a dual core, physical qwerty, windows phone 7 with a 4+ screen hits T-Mobile. Well a better one than the dell venue pro.
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I got the G2 because I went from a Sony Ericsson as my 1st phone, Moto Razr as my 2nd, Sidekick 3 as my 3rd, Blackberry Pearl 8120 as my 4th, and G1 as my 5th.
G1 was by far my favorite phone, with the Pearl being in 2nd. I fell in love with Android, then I learned about rooting, and that was a wrap. Went from a Haykuro 1.5, to a JesusFreke 1.5, then I learned about Cyanogen. Man, oh man, were my eyes opened by the XDA community.
From the G1, the 2nd Android phone for TMO came in the form of the myTouch 3G, and I had to have it, because I had transformed into an Android fanboy. From there, I went to an HD2, for the sole fact that I hoped that Android would be ported over to it, which thankfully, is now a reality!
I switched back and forth between the HD2 and the MT3G for a while, then I stuck with the MT3G, because I wanted the genuine Android experience. I wish I bought the N1 when it first came out, but the money wasn't there, so I had to settle.
When the G2 came knocking at TMO's doorstep and I knew about phone specs now and actually saw what the G2 had, I was very impressed, and having owned its big brother, the G1, it was fate that I had to buy it.
Yes, the G2 may have some flaws like the loose hinge and less than great camera in artificial/low light conditions, but I still love this phone and would not want to trade it for an HD7, MT4G, a Galaxy S phone, or anything else offered by TMO right now.
I love this phone and I would not change my decision of purchasing it if I had the opportunity to do it all over again.
Oh, and the fact that it is the first HSPA+ phone for T-Mobile, which there is 4G in my area also is a great perk!

simple, Cyanogen has it!

dontbes said:
I didnt want to get the G2 at first since I was just infatuated with the vibrants screen but once I got to play with it I needed to have it!
So what made you choose the G2? And how long are you gonna stick with it?
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2 dead Galaxy S Vibrants from Bell pushed me to the Desire Z. I wish I got it in the first place.
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Groboto said:
simple, Cyanogen has it!
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That was a selling point for sure!! I started with a Samsung Moment and then A Vibrant. I changed roms like twice a day trying to find "The one". It was kinda like internet dating, lol. I had to replace one of my Vibrants and while I was waiting for the replacement they had the G2 for $0 on black Monday. The rest is history, rooted and CM6. Physically its a beautiful phone imo, though it is protected and covered with an Otterbox. Only gripe is the hinge deal, but I swype 99.9% of the time. Its just a solid phone with awesome support, yeah Cyanogen has one. I'm waiting on something Tegra 2 based to hit TMO before I get another.

I had an original MyTouch 3G, it was slow as molasses on froyo, didn't have a keyboard, and didn't have a 3.5mm jack
the G2 is the only phone released in the last 6 months that fixes these problems. Adding in the 1.7GHz(!) overclock and solid cyanogenmod support made it even better

cyanogenmod .
ahah. I bought it before I knew cyanogenmod had it.
I had the G1, and loved it. Too bad i had to return it cuz ma dad was on my ass for always being on it. what do you except? its android!
So I heard the G2 was coming out and I almost shyt my pants.
its a sexy phone. i dont mind the hinges... one thing that sucks is no front facing camera... but o well.. maybe the G3 will own?

Got a G1 shortly after launch. Tmo upgrade came along not too long ago and so did the follow up phone... the G2. Physical keyboard is a must have for me.
I can't stand a touch screen keyboard.
The new network is also a nice perk.

Let's see.....After putting almost 50 windows roms on my HD2 and of course some Android builds. I realized the phone was getting boring by the day. I missed having a physical keyboard...better apps of course, faster speeds,and better battery life.
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I wanted a good phone (better than my old omnia) with a working keyboard for which i would not pay much.
I could get a motorola flipout (found it was a poor phone), an xperia x10 mini pro (it would have been good, provided the battery was not that fast empty and unremovable), or some blackberrys with small screens. I would have had to pay more than 400$ for every interesting phone with a nice screen and a keyboard.
Then, virgin mobile made a flash offer on the desire Z. I had to pay around 80$, which was nice, and a sub 40$/month service including unlimited-yet-not-that-much-unlimited internet, unlimited texts and 2hrs/month .
So i got it. Quite impressed by it actually, worth more than what i actually thought, especially now that i know debian can be installed on it
i am new to android, i had an omnia before. The improvement in feeling is huge, but i feel quite concerned about new phones. With windows phone 6.1 i could do what i wanted on it, no need to hack around to install apps that require some special hardware access or root access and so on. I did not have to install a file browser either...
I just hope phone OS designers would stop trying to limit phone usage. Anyway they currently have not succeeded, so thats fine

Simple its indestructible..
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I used to be a hard core crackberry user. My first android was the MT3G- loved it, but just couldn't get used to the touchscreen keyboard while also using a BB. (didn't care much for the iphone- my 5 year old uses it now)
When the HD2 came out, I'm glad I got it asap! The hardware was what made me want it badly.. The screen size was perfect for the onscreen kb, and it was even better when we could run android.. but I got sick of being annoyed on a daily basis. And I suffered from keyboard envy.
I was going to hold out on upgrading until Spring, as I usually did, and had been following the G2 forums since the release. Early December TMo offered me BOGO if we switched back to a contract... I couldn't refuse, and a sexy G2 arrived days later.
I love it. I was concerned with giving up screen real estate, but that quickly passed. My only issue is signal strength- I only get G where I live but forced into an unlimited 4G plan though I'm always on wifi, and the "partner service" doesn't seem to work. No faults of the G2- TMo needs to get their services straight.
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cuz it was called G2, and everyone knew it was gonna be good.

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[Q] What to buy after a G1 ?

So I bricked my G1 yesterday ( bad bad me )
Maybe it's time for a new phone, but I can't find a good alternative so far
If I can't I'll just buy another old one
The things I liked about the G1 ( beside android ofcourse )
1- Keyboard
Keyboard, I do alot of typing and remote shell connection, so a touch screen keyboard doesn't do it for me
The G1 keyboard was really ideal for this
2- Availability of Roms
3- GPS that would work even without network connection , not assisted gps
4- Compass
Things I didn't like but was surviving with
1- Speeeeeed
2- Memory size
3- Camera and Flash
Any suggestions on what phone to get after a good old G1 ?
My touch slide seems like a good alternative,
Has anyone tried it, any feedback ?
Any other suggestions ?
How about the G2? It seems like a fitting successor. The design is not so grand in my opinion, but it should be a top of the line handset. I am a keyboard only type of guy. I am in love with the Epic 4g styling. I like the Touch Pro 2 in terms of design. However the iffy state of Android on the TP2 is a put-off. Stay tuned for the G2. It's going to be a big phone in terms of technology and T-Mobiles hop into HSPA.
http://www.engadget.com/tag/g2/
Or if you want a G1, some fella started a thread in this forum selling his.
I love the G1 & just recently stopped using one, tmobs phone selection as far as to android devices is pretty mediocre in comparison to others, so when time came I dumped then & got an evo... I was a big stickler on the keyboard as well, but an onscreen keyboard on a 4.3 screen isn't so bad, but I do miss the feel of an actual keyboard, you kinda get to know it by touch. But gps, compass all that stuff is pretty much standard android, check out the epic if your looking to jump I think that's qwerty & should be a sweet phone & as far as roms, pretty much if they have rooted the device your gonna find a slew of roms to follow...but if your sticking with tmob then I would just browse there devices forums here to see which seem to have the most support, after having a G1 forever, I had to go get me a suped (?) Up android phone and tmob didn't cut it, I think that samsung phone is there only 1g phone & i don't believe that has a keyboard though... At any rate good luck, heh, if you stick with anything android after the G1 you can't really go wrong anyway.
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funkeee
Yeah, G2 looks very interesting, but it's not out yet, and frankly I'm not the 'latest and greatest' type, I prefer to wait untill a new product gets in the market for a few month and stabilizes in terms of price and performance
maxomus
Thanks for the epic tip, will look into it
hhmm, found out the Epic is not out yet as well, looks very interesting though
You'd be broke if you were always getting that latest and greatest.
But the G2 -- IMHO and I am a devout TMobile customer, Did the whole Sidekick line (moved to Android/G1 like 4 weeks before we found out TMobile was not working on a new Sidekick and 4 months before they announced the Sidekick was dead!) TMo knows has secured its immaculate position in Android history as the first carrier on Android. I recall analysts predicting Tmo would miserably fail if not go bankrupt/buyout with the Android platform. How wrong they were!
The HTC Dream is the first phone ever on Android. Its successor, the HTC Vision is quite fitting ---- you cannot really have a Vision without first having a Dream.... (actually its impossible to visualize something without first provoking a dream to correspond to said vision) TMO's pathetic compatitors, Verizon/Sprint and even ATT (yes even ATT!) have had glory days this year, but TMO is about to re-emerge with the next GREAT phone --- the HTC Vision/G2.
G2 probably will never end up being the third Android Developer Phone because the Nexus One probably will still be able to matriculate anything the G2 does.... but what the N1 cannot do, that the G2 may be able to do is dual core processor!!! Ive never ran WinMo before, (spend too much time on Windows anyway) but if the G2 is in fact capable, it will be fun to pwn Ballmer)
In short --- and with the big picture in mind, and the fact that the G2 is the first HDSPA phone which will also be a World Phone and that it has a keyboard adds up to something simple -- the G2 is going to be the BOMB!!!
What is really on my mind that I do not understand is... Danger's Sidekick.... which is now proprietary Microsoft, that was created by Andy Rubin (VP Engineering Android) and HTC are working on... something freaky... the rebirth of the SideDroid. A microsoft phone which can possibly intra-dual-core (both boots runnning simultaneously and in tandem, if not comprehensively and intermingly.... do we do Bing orr do we do Google? or Bing? Google?
Bring it.
androidcues
I agree, G2 will probably be a big hit
but I need a phone now
I think I might just settle for another used G1 for a few months untill G2, Epic are out there in a good price point
wanna send me one of the several one's you have as a birthday gift
It cool they are coming with the G2...I hope it has an 1GHZ Processor.
But if mobile carrier is not a prefernce, the Droid is a good smartphone/w a physical keyboard. The reason I won't get one b/c I don't particularly care for Verizon and I like GSM phones.
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I loved the G1 because of its clean and simple design.
Do not like the look of the G2 at all.
The Motorola droid x is the best looking device out there at the moment, although apparently the packaged software is dire and motorola have added preventative measures to stop people flashing non-motorola-approved roms.
As a result I would be looking at the Nexus one if i had to choose today. Its restriction free, will have barely no carrier 'fluff' integrated into the rom, and will be supported for a long time.
Wait....Isn't G2 the Hero? I'm confused. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPkeXZbaw3Q&feature=related
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Never mind. I found Its nickname "Vision"
I agree with most of what you said. I got a text from T-Mobile this morning saying the G2 was coming. So I get on the net to check out their own website, it wasn't working. So I search the net to find out anything about it and doesn't appear to be much better. They've increased the megapixels on the camera but only to a 5 when a number of phone have an 8. Also disappointed that there's no flash. Impressed that the screen will be bigger and I'm okay to part with the keyboard as long as the on-screen keyboard is accurate. I've loved my G1 but have recently become very disappointed with the number of apps I'm UNable to download because I run out of memory. If that issue is fixed on the G2 I'll be happy. I've been contemplated ridding myself of T-Mobile only because of the lack of great phones. I have no complaint with service or customer service but would like to see some better phones. I was all about getting and HD2 until I realized it was not carrying the android market. I would like to see more from T-Mobile.
idinga said:
I agree with most of what you said. I got a text from T-Mobile this morning saying the G2 was coming. So I get on the net to check out their own website, it wasn't working. So I search the net to find out anything about it and doesn't appear to be much better. They've increased the megapixels on the camera but only to a 5 when a number of phone have an 8. Also disappointed that there's no flash. Impressed that the screen will be bigger and I'm okay to part with the keyboard as long as the on-screen keyboard is accurate. I've loved my G1 but have recently become very disappointed with the number of apps I'm UNable to download because I run out of memory. If that issue is fixed on the G2 I'll be happy. I've been contemplated ridding myself of T-Mobile only because of the lack of great phones. I have no complaint with service or customer service but would like to see some better phones. I was all about getting and HD2 until I realized it was not carrying the android market. I would like to see more from T-Mobile.
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Try the vibrant or the mytouch slide. I'm using the vibrant And its the bomb!
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It's nice having a truly capable phone after using a g1 for so long aye...
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Look, I recently brought a Slide...but im now selling it on ebay and ill save that money for a G2...Ill be goning back to my G1 for now while I wait for the G2 or maybe Mytouch HD to come out. Which ever one comes out first.And im not selling the slide cause its bad or anything, just want something that will last 2yrs. Dont get me wrong the phone is incredible, everything opens so quickly and smoothly all the time. Battery life is good for me too,and i love the design...but i want a phone that will lack support, which i feel this will have too.
If u like the slide out keyboard I would wait for the g2 nice screen size and specs
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Personally, I'll be moving to Sprint and getting the Epic 4G. It's available on Amazon for $200 right now, and that price is sure to fall.

Are there any ex Tilt2/TP2 owners in the house?

I've had a Titl2 2 since March and it's been nothing but fun. However as time went on, bigger and better things started getting made. I am highly considering the Epic and I want to know how you feel about it's overall hardware mechanics. I'm not going to ask for specifics on software since sens and android are to different.
yup i used to have a tilt2 on at&t running energy and xandroid..
when the epic was annou ced i couldnt wait its a more powerful "version" of the tilt2 with all the goodness of fully working android. slightly better battery life bigger and lighter and the screen kicks ass. i even jumped from at&t to sprint for the phone so that should say what my summation is..
if you can get it, you'll be happy. but keep in mind the tilt2 has more dev on it as it's been around longer and we're all waiting for 2.2 before the fun really gets going for roms and mods.
I owned TouchPro2 until a month ago. I had custom ROMs, most recently Energy.
Then I bought Epic4G. Played with on over WiFi for 4 weeks before activating.
Once you get used to its speed, responsiveness and general android flexibility there's no going back! So at the end of 4 weeks - good bye SERO, hello SERO premium.
Rooted/clockworkmod recovery installed, custom ROM/mixup kernel.
The good new things:
1. Android, speed, great display (albeit not so good for ebooks)
2. Tango for "facetime" chat with my brother on iPhone 7000miles away
3. Lots of free aps (ad-supported), but ads dont bother me
4. Integration with google (voice/maps/navigation etc)
5. better form factor and lighter than TP2
My grunts:
1. keyboard is not as good as TP2 (not bad, just TP2 was excellent!)
2. need to get microUSB cables/adapter
3. power button placement - phones tries to slide open every time I press it
4. delays with Froyo (should be here soon!)
5. 4G is not really helpful, I live in 4G area but don't notice much difference (except battery drain)
What I Was Afraid Of But Not Anymore
1. touch-buttons are actually easy to use
2. battery life with new rom is OK, enough for a day
3. screen is actually useable in direct sunlight
4. iphone apps still come out sooner, but android is catching up
5. there's plenty of junk in android market, but easy to rate apps/report spam
TP2 owner here. When Oct1 for SERO prem hit I picked up the epic and gave the TP2 to my daughter. I could not go back.
another tp2 owner here.. the only things i miss about the tp2 are teh community and the keyboard.. Never looking back..
I had the tilt 2, used nrgrom, jumped ship to sprint. I have had the iphone, HTC 8125, 8525, and tilt2, the Epic is the best phone I have had yet. I even got my tech buddy, who made programs for windows mobile phones, to leave at&t and his TP2, to get the Epic.
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Tp2 previous user. All i can say is that i am glad i am off that old piece of sh*t.
Epic Is awesome!!!! Android is so much better then windows mobile. After seeing wp7 i knew it was time to switch to android. WP7 such an ugly UI. Rip off of zune much?
You do realize MS makes zune and wm right?
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I had a TP2 for about a week. The phone I got had a disfunctional M button (had to press it REALLY hard), replaced it and the next phone had a disfunctional B button (same thing), replaced that one and traded it. Thats my experience with a TP2. Coming from a Moment with a capacitive touch screen and going to a TP2 with a resistive touch screen, i was just unable to keep lower quality older technology.
i had a mogul, TP1 and TP2 the only thing i will mis is the game xtract lol its a shame the mogul is still fully functional as if it was still new and the TP broke 4x (full keyboard failure) and the TP2 broke with in 6 mo (stuck in headphone mode)
im glad i picked samsung over htc lol
ex tp2 user here. switched to evo, then moment & now the epic. in recent months if I'm at a sprint store I pick up the tp2 & tinker. can't believe how when I first got that thing I actually thought it was fast lol. must of been the switch from tp1 lol. I admit that keyboard was great though. well now its the epic and when the next best thing comes out it will be that lol.
blastboi said:
i had a mogul, TP1 and TP2 the only thing i will mis is the game xtract lol its a shame the mogul is still fully functional as if it was still new and the TP broke 4x (full keyboard failure) and the TP2 broke with in 6 mo (stuck in headphone mode)
im glad i picked samsung over htc lol
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Oh snap, my TP2 did that after a month (not even). I fixed it, but I forgot what I did.
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Oh snap, my TP2 did that after a month (not even). I fixed it, but I forgot what I did.
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Its called throwing it away. Thats what fixed it for me :O
Great memories
Great memories using TP2, that thing was modded, bricked, flashed, what a great phone to learn from. The Epic is so much faster and i'm glad to have a physical keyboard battery life.. yeah.. so so .. Enjoy the new phone! If the epic would tilt that would have been sweetness.. to bad...
Ex TP2 user. I've had several phones since.
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I'm a new Epic owner (like many former SERO TP2 owners who jumped over to SERO Premium.) I liked my TP2 very much, but the main difference I'm noticing now with the Epic (now that I've got most things set up the way I want) is that I spend less time actually using the phone than I did my TP2. And that's not a knock. On the TP2 I was constantly feeling the need to tweak and adjust things to try to optimize the experience with 3rd party ROMs, UI changes, etc. With the Epic I just USE it like an average joe would. And it's a great experience.
I'm still holding on to my TP2 though as it makes an excellent backup phone (especially since the Android build has progressed rapidly over the last couple months.) Should I ever need it again in a pinch I'll probably be able to run Android full on off the main system memory.
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I've had a Titl2 2 since March and it's been nothing but fun. However as time went on, bigger and better things started getting made. I am highly considering the Epic and I want to know how you feel about it's overall hardware mechanics. I'm not going to ask for specifics on software since sens and android are to different.
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I had a TP2 with Sprint since last December. I was a flashaholic with energy roms for many months. I think he got the most out of it for me. I miss his thread community and spent hours tweaking, modding and flashing. Last month the back stopped fitting on right and they sent me a refurb that didn't even work out of the box. I was leaving the next day on a month long business trip and got an early upgrade to try the Epic. It is worth the money to me...even stock out of the box. It is so fast and the screen is awesome. I wasn't sure if I could break the stylus habit, but not a problem...I can hardly remember even needing it. The Epic keyboard, in my opinion, is even better than the TP2...that is saying alot! I know I type faster and make fewer mistakes. I love the spacing and the extra Android buttons. Both are/were wonderful keyboards and I still don't want a phone without a good one.
I'm really glad I switched and will not return my Epic. I'm looking forward to Froyo and evenually rooting and rom upgrades. I am sad to see so few posts for the Epic over at PPCGeeks but the community here for Epic is growing. I think that after 2.2 the developers will get going in greater numbers. I read a comment here somewhere that part of the reason is that the Epic works so well out of the box...what a concept!!! For now...for me...this is the phone!
I am muzik at PPC Geeks...splashmktg here.
Well, everyone in here seems pretty happy. I guess I'll jump on the bandwagon to after 2.2 is released. This way I can get a phone with it already installed.
I had a TP2 for about a year on Sprint. Awesome phone.
Never had any hardware problems with it, who knows how the epic will hold up. Keyboard takes some getting used to but I find myself using it less than I did on the TP2.
The epic is light years better than the TP2 though.
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Another TP2 exile. It's been my primary phone for about 18 months. I would probably still be using it except that it began have random crashes requiring me to restore it from an image. All in all it was a good phone and I enjoyed it. But after using Android for a couple weeks there's no way I'd go back to WinMo 6.

Newb coming from TP2 versus myt4g and modding

Hey members,
Newb here to the forums and wanting to get regular with posting and such. I was on sprint users and have moved over to tmobile on a family plan and signed up during the FREE PROMOTION. I got 3 lines for Wife, MIL, and Me. We went with 2 my touch 4g for the ladies and I picked up the G2.
I was really sad to see that rooting would be very tricky using ADB compared to EVO like my brothers. I found a quick and easy method using terminal and preset images. I loaded up nightly build for cyanogen vision build 37. Overclock to 1.3ghz and using 1500mhz EVO battery modded. I plan to pick up a mugen battery but wanted to use what i had lying around the house for Sh*ts and giggles.
I have 12 more days left to swap out for any other model in store and only thing that looked decent was mytouch4g. With the latest roms and slight overclock i am happy with performance and build quality (wish hinges were slight bit stronger and held in place). Should I bother looking at any other models in the next 12 days. Seems like all the next gen phones will be out in next 2-4 months and the deal i got was really nice. I paid $100 up front for each phones and with that we got free accessories, 15% off monthly bill and free activation. The kicker is we get $200 back in mail in rebate per phone so that should help with modding costs
Any recommendations at all on MIUI rom versus a decent Cyanogen rom that i should try next or any other rom for that matter. I was very glad that with those 4 links i was able to be up and running in matter of couple hours and was able to spend the rest of my time with baby boi versus ADB
thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906590
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
vision nightly build 37
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=vision
I have both the G2 and the MT4G. Both are amazing phones with excellent hardware (minus them stupid hinges). Right now the mytouch is my weapon of choice, but it took a long time for that to happen. I still use my G2 here and there. Both are rooted with Cyanogen nightlys. My best advice to you would be play with your wifes phone here and there. do some comparisons of what you like to do with the phones. One major factor is ffc vs real keyboard. Personally I would pick the keyboard cause I don't know many people who really are gonna get that much use outta the ffc. I mean its cool but how often is it really goin to get used. The reason I am using the mytouch though is because of it's 768(or something like that) RAM. G2 comes with only 512(I believe). This offers more more functionality for what I like to do with my phones and its future. It is a very tough decision, and good luck with whichever you choose.
On a side note, I am somewhat disappointed in the G2 only because the G1 was so iconic and the G2 just seems like a semi-improved nexus1. Plus the G1 was a class of it's own whereas the G2 has a twin called the desire z. A phone with that type of history/background should be another single Icon. This is just my opinion though. The phone is great for what it is.
Steve.Beanz said:
I have both the G2 and the MT4G. Both are amazing phones with excellent hardware (minus them stupid hinges). Right now the mytouch is my weapon of choice, but it took a long time for that to happen. I still use my G2 here and there. Both are rooted with Cyanogen nightlys. My best advice to you would be play with your wifes phone here and there. do some comparisons of what you like to do with the phones. One major factor is ffc vs real keyboard. Personally I would pick the keyboard cause I don't know many people who really are gonna get that much use outta the ffc. I mean its cool but how often is it really goin to get used. The reason I am using the mytouch though is because of it's 768(or something like that) RAM. G2 comes with only 512(I believe). This offers more more functionality for what I like to do with my phones and its future. It is a very tough decision, and good luck with whichever you choose.
On a side note, I am somewhat disappointed in the G2 only because the G1 was so iconic and the G2 just seems like a semi-improved nexus1. Plus the G1 was a class of it's own whereas the G2 has a twin called the desire z. A phone with that type of history/background should be another single Icon. This is just my opinion though. The phone is great for what it is.
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I would like to correct your g1 statement the g1 is actually a triplet having the dev 1(android site) and the htc dream(Europe)http://mobilenewz.net/2009/02/google-blocking-paid-market-apps-from-dev-phone-1-users/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream
but then again the G2 and Dezire z are like good twin and bad twin (hence Stock and Sense)
I love my g2 except for my first one had a busted hinge and the replacement they sent the phone wouldn't stay shut. It had the loosest hinge.
My case I got the g2 for a business device because I email a lot and wanted a physical kb (and not the limitations of a blackberry) but I now worry about my 3rd replacement being a possible dud too. I guess ill wait and see.
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@TakoLuffer Thanks for the correction. Although I still feel that the G2 is a little disappointing. But that is just my 2 cents. It is a great phone, don't get me wrong. To me it just seems it comes up short to what it could/should have been.

[Q] [4 July] [DISC] Is there any phone as sweet as the HD2?

Well my Hermes is getting a little old and I'm shopping for a new phone. The HD2 seems extremely awesome. I love that I could always fall back to WM6.5 if WP7 and Android don't suit me. It seems this phone is also quite common so with a little patience I should be able to find one at a price I want to pay. The only thing that I'm not crazy about it the lack of a hard keyboard. I see that there is a Toshiba K01/IS02 with a hard keyboard that also has a capacitive screen even though it shipped with WM6.5 but it seems to be a rare and undeveloped phone.
Can anyone tell me if there are any other WM6.5/WP7 phones besides the HD2?
I think no atm,
I too was not keen on no hardware keyboard but ended up getting a T-Mob HD2 because the price was right.
All I can say is typing on screen is far faster than any HTC hardware keyboard I have tried & you can use a mini hardware keyboard via BlueTooth if required.
All in all the lack of hardware keyboard was a step forward for my typing experience ...
For the criteria you are asking HD2 is the best. This is the best dual OS phone out there. And I agree with previous post that screen keyboard is way better. My prevois phone was TyTyn II but I think I like sceen keyboard more than hard keyboard. It just takes a little time to get use to typing on the screen. I am really happy with HD2 and I can not think of the better phone for now that does not cost more than 300 euro and have such features. But the choice is yours. Good luck.
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Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?
evilwise said:
Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?
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Indeed that was a big mistake from HTC ... The flagship model at the time with no video out ! between that & the selected battery capacity some HTC designers & market researchers should of been shot ...
Well I'm not sure about w7 but the HTC touch pro 2 can run Android & w6.5..(a bit laggy though & very outdated) & also has tv out I believe. It's been sometime since I've owed it so I can't remember. I text (up 2) 4000 texts each month & Im coming from the mytouch slide which has a keyboard....I have 2 say I really dont miss it. I will admit it took me a good few days b4 I could text as fast as any of my old phones that had a keyboard.
Personally I would suggest to buy a phone that has good development that way you won't be left in the dark. Going from the tp2 to the mytouch was horrible bc I had a phone that was well developed & then went 2 a phone that was slim pickins 2 mod it.
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The Desire HD is sort of like an upgraded HD2. I hear that a lot of devs are also working on it.
I was just like the OP, really excited that I could fall back on to WM6.5 if I didn't like Android or WP7. Then I moved to Android and never looked back.
I do admit the HD2 is a beastly device, I can't think of any other device that is nearly as hackable... the HD2 runs WM6.5, WP7 and Android all basically as if those were all natively supported.
Still though, it will soon be 2 whole years since the HD2 was announced. I personally had one for 18 months before buying a Galaxy SII. The HD2 looks pretty modern on paper... 4.3" screen, Snapdragon processor... but next to a truly modern phone like the GSII the HD2 looks clearly dated.
I put WP7 on the HD2 but it's not really my cup of tea. I also tried going back to WM6.5 but after a year with Android I found it laughably slow and clunky. So I may end up selling the HD2, though it would be by far the hardest device I've ever parted with.
I don't really know what to tell the OP. The HD2 is a hell of a phone and can run the newest versions of WP7, but when you set it next to a newer, official WP7 device you will see the differences. If you don't already own an HD2 I'd advise getting a WP7 phone, maybe one with a better screen than the HD2 has got... unless you really have a need to still be running WinMo 6.5.
wildfire dipped in honey+chocolate sauce is sweet !!
Love the hd2. Got it for it's support of tzone grandfathered plans on 3g. Wm6.5 is a joke. I could not believe how amazing the phone was after removing that dead weight of an os.
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I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...
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I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...
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I'd recommend looking at a Nexus S... a bit plastic, but the Nexus One is long in the tooth now, in terms of hardware.
Wow thanks for all the input today, Guys! I discovered a couple more things today that are going to affect my phone purchase. The first thing is that the T-Mobile branded HD2 does not support the 850 band and I am an AT&T user so not only would I not get 3G on it, but AT&T generally sends me angry emails when I use like a gig of data while "roaming" on T-Mobile's towers.
I doubt I'm going to be able to get an HD2 that does HSDPA850 at a bargain price so I checked out my upgrade options through AT&T. I am considering the following phones which I can get practically free, and here's my thoughts on each from most to least likely to be my next phone.
Samsung Focus - I've played with this phone at the store and it has the nicest looking screen by far of the three AT&T branded WP7 phones. Looks nice (except no video out). Everyone posting ITT has given me some faith in on-capacitive-screen keyboards and I must have had to work on my Hermes a million times because of the slide mechanism damaging, or more often just twisting the ribbon cable. I guess the only doubt that I have in my heart about this phone is that it's a WP7 only phone and I don't believe in WP7 largely because it's not backwards compatible with any of my WM6.5 apps. It boggles my mind that someone asked why I would want WM compatibility after I have spent nine years using it.
HTC Inspire - Seems like a pretty solid Android phone, and one of only two Android phones in the price range I want to pay (although still $50 more than the Focus). Video out only through DLNA
iPhone 3g 8gb - I think we all know everything we need to know about this animal. It's solid, spare parts are plentiful, and it's extensively developed. I just hate Apple. I don't want to have to install iTunes on my computer and so forth. Still may be my choice purely for resale value.
LG Quantum - Ditto most of the Samsung Focus opinion. Noticeably poorer screen (smaller and backlit LCD vs OLED), but does have a hardware keyboard and is the form factor I am accustomed to from the last six years with Wizard and Hermes. I guess Focus or HD2 would just feel like Wallaby in my pocket though.
Samsung Solstice II - Basically what the Quantum is to the Focus, the Solstice is to the Inspire in the Android arena. Smaller, poorer screen in exchange for a slide out keyboard. DLNA compatible though.
Palm Pre Plus and Palm Pixi - Seem like decent phones but a little too cute for me. Plus I have even greater misgivings about Palm's WebOS than I do about WP7.
Sony Ericcson Vivaz - I carried an Ngage for a while switching back and forth with Wallaby. There seemed to be a lot of development for Symbian back then and it was stable. Probably not the thing to discuss on this forum though..
Anyway, hopefully I'm not derailing my own thread too much or getting it off the topic of the section I posted it in but I appreciate all the replies and would love to hear what everyone thinks. Deciding which phone to get can be a real brain drain! And what's up with hardly anything having video out? My friend's Evo has a freakin' HDMI port right on it!

Previous Phones You Have Owned, And What You Want In The Future?

Hey all
Just curious to how many of you have moved to Android from Windows Mobile, and in particular, the Touch Pro 2? (Due to the similar form factor)
I previously had the HTC Wizard, HTC Kaiser and Touch Pro 2. While I liked the phones at the time, and the openess of the WinMo platform, it soon became apparent to me just how clunky and sluggish it was (or appeared to be because of the laggy UI) compared to the iPhone. Even so, an iPhone never interested me because of the closed platform and general over-pricing.
I was getting more and more annoyed with the Touch Pro 2 though, as I stupidly didn't research that the HD2 was making an appearance soon after, and therefore knew I could never run Sense 2.5 in all its glory without slowing down the phone big time, or have the chance to run Android or the new Windows Phone 7 on it. Jackos ROMs were what I used for my phone and I was very impressed on how stable it was compared to others.
Even so, I still found myself modding it more than actually using it.
My plan was to wait until my contract ran out (A two year one) and get a "superphone." i.e. (Sensation, Galaxy S2, Evo 3D, etc)
I was aware of the Desire Z but it wasn't until I saw a clearance sale a few months back at Carphone Warehouse selling it for £200 Sim Free that I seriously considered it. Ideally wanted something more powerful but at that price I couldn't resist getting one and sticking in a GiffGaff SIM in it.
Now I am happy to bide my time and I'm eagerly awaiting ICS and making use of the GPU acceleration
My plan now is to wait for as long as it takes for a phone that ticks all the boxes for me and get a contract again. Looking for a well built phone (preferably HTC, as Samsung feel slightly flimsy, Dual Core or better, a bigger screen but without making the phone really wide, hopefully a slim device as I would like to give a non hardware keyboard phone a chance for once since we are a long way away from the old WinMo phones with small screens and impossible to type on screen keyboards, and a minimum of 32GB storage and a seperate Micro SD slot as I like to have most my music on it so I can use it as an MP3 player. I'm prepared to be very patient until a fantastic Android phone comes out with unanimous great reviews.
Interested to hear about your previous smartphone experiences and what you're planning for next?
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The phone I would love to have is a T-mobile G2 (Desire-Z) with LTE added (both Verizon and AT&T LTE capable) that has the keyboard from the old TouchPro2 - that's my dream phone!!
right now, I really can't think of any phone that I would trade for my current T-mobile G2 (Desire-Z) - not even any of the newest ones
nothing has the build quality, classy style, real keyboard and developer support of this phone
Went through quite a few cheap crappy flip phones for a while. Picked a Samsung i500 (old school Palm flip smart phone) which is still laying in a box somewhere. Great phone, and still in awesome condition. Original iPhone when it first came out, then a 3GS. Both get used regularly for media remotes, with docks for the car, etc. Then made the jump to Android with the G2/DZ. I have a hard time thinking of improvements on this phone. Maybe a little thinner, and of course the usual improvements with time, dual core, more RAM, larger storage.
I also had a Moto Q9c, old windows mobile, for work, then was issued some terrible Blackberry which I carry. Maybe a Curve? Don't really care for BB at all.
Had a g1 and a touchpro 2. My dad is using the g1 running cyanogen 6. I'm using the touchpro 2 on my other line running xdandroid froyo.
My g2 is my main phone. Running the latest kang commits since the nightlies are down for now.
Want a g3. If I have to break down and buy something else. I dunno. Galaxy nexus right now.
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My gf's bionic was causing a splash at android monsters (cell phone rooting place in austin)
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Hmmm...First smartphone was/is a Nokia 6620 a great little Symbian phone that is still my secondary backup and also the phone I lend out if need be. First WM phone was the HTC Wizard/TMo MDA decent phone that finally just wore out. Had a TMo SDA and a HTC S620 at the same time the wife and son's. All unlocked and running custom ROM's. Then picked up an At&t Tilt/HTC Kaiser which I still have. It runs Stylez Black 5.0 and serves as my main backup phone. Had a HTC Raphael for a few days. Liked the phone hated the keyboard sold it about a week after buying it.Have had a G1 that I managed to brick and then a rooted MyTouch3G. Currently have the phones that are shown in my signature. Next phone needs to have a keyboard if at all possible. It will of course be faster and should be a minimum of dual core. More internal memory is always nice and an external memory slot is a requirement.
Kirby
Hi,
I started with a HP 6315 that came with a detachable keyboard and for that time was quite impressive, then moved on to the Wizard, Kaiser, Raphael and now DZ, using them all as my mobile office.
I am thinking about getting a tablet for the mobile office purpose and using a smartphone without a hardware keyboard as a phone
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A couple of Nokia's, unbranded ones under MVNO providers, RAZR's some Symbians to the G2. To be honest, I have been waiting the Nokia's E55 successor for awhile since I'm a big candybar and Symbian user as a secondary phone but heck nothing stops me from getting the hopeful G3!
Thin as RAZR with a slide out Keyboard and Sense
I would love a phone which is as thin as a RAZR but with a slide out keyboard and HTC Sense packed it. And yes it would run as fast as ICS on a GNexus not like other Sense phones. Last but not least, the display would put iPhone to shame! I don't want a huge screen... 3.5 - 4" is fine, but the ppi would be 400 for this phone...
I know its a lot to wish for... but then again one day I hope to see this become a reality!
quite disappointed with the new razr released by motorola. razr are cool and my fav phone of all time. but it has always been a flip phone..damn. i hope they release a cool flip phone android.

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