Can we? pretty pretty please????
with wipe cream and cherries and sprinkles on top
That cell phone HTC Shift is a joke, correct? Less resolution in camera (5M), less speed than EVO, just keyboard, if I understood correctly.
baiatul said:
That cell phone HTC Shift is a joke, correct? Less resolution in camera (5M), less speed than EVO, just keyboard, if I understood correctly.
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Fool. Its a faster phone with a newer processor, better gpu, and mp's don't mean much. Its a better phone than the evo with a smaller screen and a real keyboard.....which is what some of us want. so, why don't you go troll elsewhere, troll.
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westicle said:
Fool. Its a faster phone with a newer processor, better gpu, and mp's don't mean much. Its a better phone than the evo with a smaller screen and a real keyboard.....which is what some of us want. so, why don't you go troll elsewhere, troll.
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How is a smaller screen and 200mhz less cpu speed make it a better phone?
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How is a smaller screen and 200mhz less cpu speed make it a better phone?
Do a little research on the processor. Its a newer gen and is more battery friendly and its FASTER.
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How is a smaller screen and 200mhz less cpu speed make it a better phone?
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Look at the Benchmarks for the G2, same processor. Blows the Evo away and can be overclocked to 1.8GHZ. Evo can barely handle 1.2.
The Shift has the same screen resolution on a smaller screen.
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Look at the Benchmarks for the G2, same processor. Blows the Evo away and can be overclocked to 1.8GHZ. Evo can barely handle 1.2.
The Shift has the same screen resolution on a smaller screen.
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Look at the Benchmarks for the G2, same processor. Blows the Evo away and can be overclocked to 1.8GHZ. Evo can barely handle 1.2.
The Shift has the same screen resolution on a smaller screen.
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But the screen is smaller and the front camera is missing (which is the dumbest thing they could have done), so yeah, cpu aside, how is it a better phone?
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the_hustleman said:
But the screen is smaller and the front camera is missing (which is the dumbest thing they could have done), so yeah, cpu aside, how is it a better phone?
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It doesn't have the little stand. It has only one LED flash, apparently.
The fact that screen is smaller make it's more portable for some people and at the same resolution means it will have a better picture. Most people don't want or have a need for a FFC.
The benchmarks show that performance wise it is a better phone than the Evo. The rest is up to personal preference.
The Evo is still a beast, however the Evo Shift is no slouch either.
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The fact that screen is smaller make it's more portable for some people and at the same resolution means it will have a better picture. Most people don't want or have a need for a FFC.
The benchmarks show that performance wise it is a better phone than the Evo. The rest is up to personal preference.
The Evo is still a beast, however the Evo Shift is no slouch either.
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Less camera and flash, less size. If it's smaller then it's expected to use less power. I still like the size of the regular EVO. How about the main memory? I have a lot of trouble with EVO after I installed Twitter. It accumulates more and more megs over time, and it cannot be moved to the mem card. Maybe this one will come with more memory.
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Less camera and flash, less size. If it's smaller then it's expected to use less power. I still like the size of the regular EVO. How about the main memory? I have a lot of trouble with EVO after I installed Twitter. It accumulates more and more megs over time, and it cannot be moved to the mem card. Maybe this one will come with more memory.
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The camera on the G2 is the same as the Shift and is supposed to take better pics than the Evo.
If you're rooted and I'm assuming you are, you can move Twitter to your SD card using Titanium Backup. Now if you are using the widget then it will have to stay on the phone memory, but I use Tweetdeck and never have any use for the widget so it works out.
If you haven't tried Tweetdeck I highly recommend giving it a go.
I'm actually really digging the shift. I want a keyboard, don't need a ffc, don't want a 4.3 inch screen, like the processor (it really is awesome) like the gpu, and love that its made by htc. If u have an evo then stick with it, but I skipped the evo for a hardware keyboard, and won't touch the epic because samsung has tricked me with their "next big thing" before (instinct, etc.) I'm truly excited for this phone. Research it before you dis it, and realize that different consumers have different needs.
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I hate that everyone with an EVO is hating on this phone. People dont understand the mhz isnt everything ex; celeron vs pentium. I guarantee when it drops and pulls some good development its gonna woop on the EVO as far as processing power and usability. Then all you guys are gonna be able to complain about is that there isnt a 4.3'' screen and a FFC. Considering I wont be using video calls and hate the size/battery life of the EVO I cant wait to get this phone as it is the reason why I held off from buying the EVO in the first place. This phone after OC is gonna be one of the fastest phones on the market I can assure you (Look how fast the G2 is)
Infact, My free optimus s beats the EVO on a lot of the benchmarks I've tested it on...
I really cant wait to have the shift OC'd to 1.5+ to rub it in to all my friends with the EVO
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I hate that everyone with an EVO is hating on this phone. People dont understand the mhz isnt everything ex; celeron vs pentium. I guarantee when it drops and pulls some good development its gonna woop on the EVO as far as processing power and usability. Then all you guys are gonna be able to complain about is that there isnt a 4.3'' screen and a FFC. Considering I wont be using video calls and hate the size/battery life of the EVO I cant wait to get this phone as it is the reason why I held off from buying the EVO in the first place. This phone after OC is gonna be one of the fastest phones on the market I can assure you (Look how fast the G2 is)
Infact, My free optimus s beats the EVO on a lot of the benchmarks I've tested it on...
I really cant wait to have the shift OC'd to 1.5+ to rub it in to all my friends with the EVO
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Look: Don't hate because it's not really "people hate it". People really don't know the new phone. We are inquiring about it. It doesn't mean people hate it. so don't hate.
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The camera on the G2 is the same as the Shift and is supposed to take better pics than the Evo.
If you're rooted and I'm assuming you are, you can move Twitter to your SD card using Titanium Backup. Now if you are using the widget then it will have to stay on the phone memory, but I use Tweetdeck and never have any use for the widget so it works out.
If you haven't tried Tweetdeck I highly recommend giving it a go.
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Are you sure is the same camera? (just asking, not trying to antagonize or anything) I though EVO is 8 MP, and the Shift is 5 MP or so? Also, EVO has 2 LED's as flashes. This one, judging by the picture, seems to have only one. Maybe an indication of the camera capabilities.
Thank you for the tip about Tweetdeck. I definitely will try it. The Twitter app is great, but every week it adds more and more megs up to its used mem.
Thanks again.
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Wow, thanks man. I got rid of my low memory icon after uninstalling Twitter and installing Tweetdeck. Thanks again. You have one more thanks.
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Are you sure is the same camera? (just asking, not trying to antagonize or anything) I though EVO is 8 MP, and the Shift is 5 MP or so? Also, EVO has 2 LED's as flashes. This one, judging by the picture, seems to have only one. Maybe an indication of the camera capabilities.
Thank you for the tip about Tweetdeck. I definitely will try it. The Twitter app is great, but every week it adds more and more megs up to its used mem.
Thanks again.
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Wow, thanks man. I got rid of my low memory icon after uninstalling Twitter and installing Tweetdeck. Thanks again. You have one more thanks.
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The camera is the same one from the G2/Desire Z not the Evo. Sorry if I was confusing above. From what I've read the G2 takes better pics than the Evo even though it is only 5MP as opposed to the Evo's 8MP.
My fiance actually ran over to Radio Shack and picked up my Shift this morning, so hopefully I'll have some initial thoughts on it tonight.
Glad Tweetdeck worked out for. Check out the Chrome app or desktop version too. Outstanding! Thanks for the thanks!
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Are you sure is the same camera? (just asking, not trying to antagonize or anything) I though EVO is 8 MP, and the Shift is 5 MP or so? Also, EVO has 2 LED's as flashes. This one, judging by the picture, seems to have only one. Maybe an indication of the camera capabilities.
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You are obviously the type of person whole believes bigger is better. Lol, will you please, please do so individual research before judging again.
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Curious as to what everyone thinks
I am thinking of switching to the EPIC and giving my wife the evo ... The Epic seems awesome... Need to see how out turns out though
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i think its too early to tell, i mean the evo has been rooted already and will continue to be supported in a pretty big way by the devs here, theres no telling if the samsung will have the same level of rootability.
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i think its too early to tell, i mean the evo has been rooted already and will continue to be supported in a pretty big way by the devs here, theres no telling if the samsung will have the same level of rootability.
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True..it's just that screen and the processing power with the gyroscope of the epic is very tempting..
Give up an 8MP camera for a QWERTY keyboard... Nah, not worth it.
Gonna go ahead and keep my EVO for a while.
Yeah because our 8mp camera is just soo amazing...
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Heh the evo's camera sucks.
Anyway, I'll hold into my evo until it launches sometime in the future and I'll probably pick it up. Looks to soundly beat the evo and the droid x. At least its already rooted the only issue will be samsungs encoded drivers.
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Yeah because our 8mp camera is just soo amazing...
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Better than the 5MP I upgraded from when I switched from my Hero... Oh wait, that's the same camera on the Epic.
The EPIC is EVO Jr. EVO is the best phone on the market, even better than the iPhone 4.
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Better than the 5MP I upgraded from when I switched from my Hero... Oh wait, that's the same camera on the Epic.
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Comparing the hero's 5mp camera to the epics is just not a fair fight
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The EPIC is EVO Jr. EVO is the best phone on the market, even better than the iPhone 4.
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Care to clarify as to why or how the evo is better??
I dont like how the samsung epic looks ..so no nor i like the iphone look they gave
The evo is better because its in my hands!
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The evo is better because its in my hands!
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I must agree
I don't know, spec-wise the epic is pretty compelling.
The 5MP camera will look better than the evos because the lower mp sensor will undoubtedly have less grain and better low-light pictures.
The qwerty is welcome, im not sure about the size but it's good news to me that it wont be as large as the evo in wideness.
I love the 4.3" screen on my evo, but 4" sounds like a great tradeoff.
It will surely fit better in the hand, which is very welcome for me.
The hummingbird IS a better processor.. GPU is great. End of story.
Super AMOLED is the best screen technology in the mobile biz. End of story.
The samsung is a better phone.
That said i will probably keep my evo because it looks so much better. LOL
If the framerate issues are fixed and froyo comes along quickly there isn't much of a reason to return the evo.
Either way i'm happy, but my 30-day window is ending soon and there isn't much news about when the Epic will arrive.
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I don't know, spec-wise the epic is pretty compelling.
The 5MP camera will look better than the evos because the lower mp sensor will undoubtedly have less grain and better low-light pictures.
The qwerty is welcome, im not sure about the size but it's good news to me that it wont be as large as the evo in wideness.
I love the 4.3" screen on my evo, but 4" sounds like a great tradeoff.
It will surely fit better in the hand, which is very welcome for me.
The hummingbird IS a better processor.. GPU is great. End of story.
Super AMOLED is the best screen technology in the mobile biz. End of story.
The samsung is a better phone.
That said i will probably keep my evo because it looks so much better. LOL
If the framerate issues are fixed and froyo comes along quickly there isn't much of a reason to return the evo.
Either way i'm happy, but my 30-day window is ending soon and there isn't much news about when the Epic will arrive.
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very good points..the only thing bothering me is as you said there is no release date, but i think i might take my chances and wait
The Galaxy S model will be released on every carrier, so the Epic will have plenty of support, if not more than the EVO. The specs are undoubtedly better than the EVO's in almost every way. The 45nm processor especially stands out since will mean better battery life.
I need to buy the EVO as soon as it comes back in stock, so I hope the Epic is released within my 30-day window in case I want to exchange.
EDIT: I just saw a video ( youtube (dot) com/watch?v=x31Tl4_F1Wo ) of Touchwiz and it looks TERRIBLE, even though the iPhone-like icons aren't bad. Unless TW can be easily disabled, I'm going with the EVO.
I use launcherpro anyways and it helps alot
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I use launcherpro anyways and it helps alot
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I just discovered LauncherPro today and I have to say it's amazing! The ability to save your screen from notification bar burn alone is worth it!
Feels like I have a brand new phone today...
i would never return an htc phone for a samsung.. im an htc guy!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/03/htc-evo-shift-4g-in-the-wild/
I'm happy to say that I have no problem with sticking with my evo. The shift seems like the att airea to me - very degraded and outdated tech.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/03/htc-evo-shift-4g-in-the-wild/
I'm happy to say that I have no problem with sticking with my evo. The shift seems like the att airea to me - very degraded and outdated tech.
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I wouldn't get it but I also wouldn't call the CPU/GPU outdated. It's practically a given that it's just a rebranded Desire Z which is part of HTC's latest line of phones -- at least for now.
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I wouldn't get it but I also wouldn't call the CPU/GPU outdated. It's practically a given that it's just a rebranded Desire Z which is part of HTC's latest line of phones -- at least for now.
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Hmm, well the latest specs that I read (about a week ago) said that it would have an 800mhz processor - endgadget says 5mp camera, no front-facing, ect. Not sure the front facing camera has every been used on my phone, but it's still cool to have, I guess; I was referring more to the outdate/price of it in my mind - Radio Shack said $150, so to me, it's outdated/slower/smaller than the EVO and costs more.
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Hmm, well the latest specs that I read (about a week ago) said that it would have an 800mhz processor - endgadget says 5mp camera, no front-facing, ect. Not sure the front facing camera has every been used on my phone, but it's still cool to have, I guess; I was referring more to the outdate/price of it in my mind - Radio Shack said $150, so to me, it's outdated/slower/smaller than the EVO and costs more.
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How is it slower? I agree that it's not a overall very appealing phone but how is it faster? It has a better CPU but more importantly it has a much better GPU.
This is the 2nd gen snapdragon and it overclocks like a motha! I been hearing 1.7 Ghz OC stable on G2's. I'm just turned off by the small screen and the keyboard. It's a shame really. I just hope the next evo has the looks of the Desire HD, but with better cpu/gpu.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/01/02/sprints-htc-evo-shift-4g-specs-leak-online/
looking much better???
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/01/02/sprints-htc-evo-shift-4g-specs-leak-online/
looking much better???
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I am all over this if those specs are correct. I have been looking for a slide out keyboard smartphone running android. I know there is the Epic, but Samsung phones have a history of no support/sucking.
Currently got an Touch Pro 2, and just waiting for the perfect phone. The front facing camera is the make or break for me. I would like to have that, and if this phone ends up not having it then I won't get it. All the pictures seem to show a camera on the front by the top speaker bar, so I am hoping all the rumors that there is no FFC are wrong.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/03/htc-evo-shift-4g-in-the-wild/
Previous specs from androidpolice.com NOT correct (here is the box showing the 5MP camera, no ffc). It's the desire-z without the hinge. Still a better cpu/gpu than the evo, but...
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/03/htc-evo-shift-4g-in-the-wild/
I'm happy to say that I have no problem with sticking with my evo. The shift seems like the att airea to me - very degraded and outdated tech.
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What's funny is the Evo is actually about to be outdated tech. Hell, the CPU/GPU is the next generation of Snapdragon, so it is actually moving forward.
My girlfriend has an Evo, and i love it, but i like how this phone has the same resolution in a smaller screen.
I'm definitely getting one on launch day.
The internals are better in the Evo shift than the Evo.
Clock speed is irrelevant, much like clock speed on processors.
Don't even try to suggest that the i5s at 2.5 ghz are slower than the Pentium 4 3.0ghz.
My comment to the Evo shift is the fact that, while it is better than the Evo, it is 2010 technology.
By summer we are going to have 2011 technology.
Why would I not just wait 3 - 5 months and pay the same amount for much better?
I find it odd not one person has mentioned the landscape sense. That's usually a hit
I'm still unsure about this device. I love my EVO, and I love the G2, but the screen size on the Shift is just too small for me. Not to mention, the buttons at the bottom look laughably too big on the poor thing.
I guess it would be pretty nice to have the new CPU/GPU butttt I'm not sure. I'm pretty picky about keyboards so maybe I will know once I've played with one in person.
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I'm still unsure about this device. I love my EVO, and I love the G2, but the screen size on the Shift is just too small for me. Not to mention, the buttons at the bottom look laughably too big on the poor thing.
I guess it would be pretty nice to have the new CPU/GPU butttt I'm not sure. I'm pretty picky about keyboards so maybe I will know once I've played with one in person.
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I would be surprised if there wasn't an Evo 2 to with dual-core processor released in the summer.
Good point; it doesn't have the new Sense either, which sucks!
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Well the phone is smaller but that D-pad does not make any sense... why include such thing on a device with a touchscreen. Even better would be to remove the D-pad to make space for some additional keys OR expand the current keys.
It looks 'toy-like' similar to the Epic.
I think I will wait for another device. Staying with the EVO until something else pops up.
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The internals are better in the Evo shift than the Evo.
Clock speed is irrelevant, much like clock speed on processors.
Don't even try to suggest that the i5s at 2.5 ghz are slower than the Pentium 4 3.0ghz.
My comment to the Evo shift is the fact that, while it is better than the Evo, it is 2010 technology.
By summer we are going to have 2011 technology.
Why would I not just wait 3 - 5 months and pay the same amount for much better?
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You hit the nail on the head. Right on all counts.
Second Gen Snapdragon kills it, but I'm waiting for the dual cores!!!
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The internals are better in the Evo shift than the Evo.
Clock speed is irrelevant, much like clock speed on processors.
Don't even try to suggest that the i5s at 2.5 ghz are slower than the Pentium 4 3.0ghz.
My comment to the Evo shift is the fact that, while it is better than the Evo, it is 2010 technology.
By summer we are going to have 2011 technology.
Why would I not just wait 3 - 5 months and pay the same amount for much better?
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You hit the nail on the head. Right on all counts.
Second Gen Snapdragon kills it, but I'm waiting for the dual cores!!!
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that is a great arguement/point..
but it has a great flaw as well!
wait 3-5 months... and reuse
wash, rinse, and repeat...
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Good point; it doesn't have the new Sense either, which sucks!
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that is exactly what i was gonna say, if it had the new sense then i would've thought about it. Plus it wont work with a powermat, i love my evo for that
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Well the phone is smaller but that D-pad does not make any sense... why include such thing on a device with a touchscreen. Even better would be to remove the D-pad to make space for some additional keys OR expand the current keys.
It looks 'toy-like' similar to the Epic.
I think I will wait for another device. Staying with the EVO until something else pops up.
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My wife is completely gaga over this phone and being someone who got suckered by Samsung and my local sprint reps (When I was torn between the epic and the evo at epic launch, they all said 'hands down its the epic it'll have 2.2 in a few weeks'...heh) into buying a phone with a keyboard I wish I had gone the other way. Personally, I hate the blue tint of the phone, I despise the trackpad (who uses a trackpad anymore?), I could care less about the lack of FFC or the 5mp vs 8mp but in all honesty there needed to be a smaller alternative for people wanting high-end hardware on sprint without having to have a massive screen. Part of the reason my better half loves this phone is that she rarely carries a purse and if she got an Epic or an Evo she could not carry her phone in her pocket as she is used to and would then have to carry a bag for it.
Sprint just posted the fact sheet but no availability date.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/news/htc-evo-shift-4g-fact-sheet.htm
the fact sheet says it has the newest version of HTC Sense. There's no reason they wouldn't include it.
I like my Evo better...no doubt.
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I like my Evo better...no doubt.
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Explain. The inspire is essentially a more powerful evo so I'm a little confused.
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jhoffy22 said:
I like my Evo better...no doubt.
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So why don't you explain why the EVO is better?
It has a kickstand!!!
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So why don't you explain why the EVO is better?
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Who cares why. It's called a matter of opinion and his opinion shouldn't be up for debate.
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Who cares why. It's called a matter of opinion and his opinion shouldn't be up for debate.
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umm this is a forum though....
Success100 said:
umm this is a forum though....
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True but if you know the usual suspects you would know what ever he posts they are just gonna flame him and tell him how his opinion is wrong.
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True but if you know the usual suspects you would know what ever he posts they are just gonna flame him and tell him how his opinion is wrong.
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lol at the "usual suspects". I guess your right though. Hope OP has a helmet on cause its going to get ugly! lol
I wish we could put a moratorium on posts like this. You like the inspire. thanks. glad you could start a whole new thread with the content of a tweet.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to flame here. I really do want to learn about the inspire and having a real-world comparison would have been excellent. But come on, details man!
It is. The trolls are out in full effect. I didn't know the Inspire didn't have a kickstand. I never use mines anyway.
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What are the main differences between the Inspire and the EVO (other then the kickstand of course)? Just wondering as I am thinking about getting my son a new phone and was thinking about this one.
Is the Inspire a Sprint machine?
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Explain. The inspire is essentially a more powerful evo so I'm a little confused.
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Barely, and yet it lacks the front-facing camera.
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Barely, and yet it lacks the front-facing camera.
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Better processor, better GPU, more RAM, MUCH better screen. It's a more powerful device, no ifs ands or buts. I never use the FFC so I could care less about that.
Thank you for this wholly informative and thoughtful thread.
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Better processor, better GPU, more RAM, MUCH better screen. It's a more powerful device, no ifs ands or buts. I never use the FFC so I could care less about that.
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Real-time results except games and you will never notice that CPU is faster unless your using benchmarks. 768mb RAM can be a plus, however my phone never bogs down on 512mb of RAM. Much better screen? That is pushing it. I have put my EVO side by side with the Inspire and barely noticed a difference. It was brighter, but not by a lot. Also being on AT&T makes it not even worth it.
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So why don't you explain why the EVO is better?
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I didn't say that the Evo is better. I just said that I like my Evo better. This could be due to many things:
1. It's on AT&T
2. It was stock Sense
3. It doesn't have a kickstand
4. It doesn't have a front facing camera
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1. It's on AT&T
2. It was stock Sense
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Network =! phone...
not even going to get into your second point..
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Real-time results except games and you will never notice that CPU is faster unless your using benchmarks. 768mb RAM can be a plus, however my phone never bogs down on 512mb of RAM. Much better screen? That is pushing it. I have put my EVO side by side with the Inspire and barely noticed a difference. It was brighter, but not by a lot. Also being on AT&T makes it not even worth it.
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Exactly this. And to be 100 percent honest...I took my Evo and her Inspire side by side with a fresh ADW launcher home screen on both with the brightness turned up all the way on both of our phones with the same exact wallpaper and mine looked better. Now granted it was not that much better, but I could hardly tell any differences at all. However it was agreed by both my girlfriend and me that my screen looked better. Not only that, but I even think that I like the touch screen responsiveness of my Evo better than the Inspire. And to add something else to the argument, you think that HTC would have learned that making the camera stick out the back of the phone is going to end up in thousands of scratched lenses but with the design of this phone they only made the problem worse by projecting the camera lens out further from the phone.
Now I wont discount the Inspire, there are things that I like better about it. To start with, one of my biggest peeves about my Evo since about a month after I bought it was that the thing "creaked" when I would push moderately on the back of it below the camera when I was holding the phone in the palm of my hand. This is something that I have no figured out how to fix and have accredited to the poor design of the phone. It bothers the hell out of me that the Evo does not feel like a solid device while holding it in my hand. I even have a Amzer gel case on it and it still does the same thing. With the Inspire, the battery slides into the side of the phone so the whole unit is one piece. I like this because it feels a lot slicker and like HTC made a improvement on the design of phone.
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Network =! phone...
not even going to get into your second point..
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Really network doesn't equal phone? Why did you buy your first phone?
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My upgrade comes through on March 1st.. I've looked into each of these phones with great detail. This is what I've come up with in a nutshell. And I want everyone's professional opinion as ill be using this phone for a year or two.. thx guys and gals..(is there a girl on xda yet? ;p)
Stock pros of shift: pocket friendly, higher quality exterior, possibly more support on xda, I heart HTC.
Stock pros of epic 4g: better battery life, amoled screen, front facing camera, video card for twice the gaming potential
Both are 99.00 on Amazon with upgrade eligibility (so is the evo, but I don't need a tablet just yet, 4" is quite enough for me) .. I use sprint im not switching its cheap.. I'd rather have a steak then slightly improved cell service. I have wifi at home anyways..
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My wife has a shift and I have an Epic. Her phone is more stable and her camera takes noticeably better pictures. The keyboard is also better on the shift as sometimes the keys skip on the Epic. As far as froyo is concerned it is much more stable on the Shift as well.
When on the shift section of xda I noticed a lot of people got the phone for their wives and not for themselves. They say games don't run as smoothe on the shift such as psx rom.games. and there is no phone on the market that I've layed my hands on that has a prettier screen than the epic. The colors are just plain and simply better. The phone isn't the eye catcher the epic is
I would go personally with the Epic in hopes of sprint and Samsung getting their act together and fixing the numerous bugs that are associated with it. You'll definetely have a love hate relationship with the epic but I believe in the long run you'll be better off with it.
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At this point id say wait for the next round of phones as there'll be dual core options. Also, my gil has the evo and i the epic and they are about the same size overall, not too much difference.
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At this point id say wait for the next round of phones as there'll be dual core options. Also, my gil has the evo and i the epic and they are about the same size overall, not too much difference.
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If you can wait for the next round of phones I would, since they'll probably be out this summer. If you can't, the Epic is a good phone. I'm currently on EB 13 and I did a fresh install and then loaded all of my apps manually. There's still problems with the sport mode in the camera, Time without signal (TWS) being high unless you do the airplane mode toggle, and the camcorder being a little sluggish in low light. These aren't deal breakers for me, because I don't really use the phone for low light recordings or sport mode and I'm fine toggling the airplane mode. However, it would be nice to have this fixed. I haven't experienced any of the other bugs people have claimed, so I'm still very happy with the performance of EB 13, but I'm not holding my breath for a fix. I mainly stay on EB 13 because the battery life for me is drastically better than 2.1 and the performance is no worst than 2.1. The screen is a lot better as well.
Like I said before, I hope they fix the problems, but I wouldn't buy a phone assuming they will......
IMO, it all boils down to this..
If you want a KB, get the Epic, if you don't get the EVO
The EVO shift is simply not a high end phone, no matter how it was marketed.
It is not a matter of speed, but just a lack of to many high end features.
I would really say it boils down to you really wanting to mod it I have an epic and I've been pretty happy with having it rommed to froyo until. Although some of the hardware glitches or software do kinda get annoying. I still think it's pretty descent.
The shift I'm assuming is a descent phone as well and I heard the keyboard is way better then epic, so it really comes down to preference I really think.
Best advice I can say is go to the sprint store and play with both of them for about 30 minutes, like literally 30 minutes.
I own both. Epic has a nicer screen and is faster for games. Shift seems to be better for literally everything else.
But if you like to tweak endlessly, Epic may be more your speed.
Epic by a gazillian times. The screen is simply amazing! And the gpu screams. Along froyo with ext filesystem, it even beats the super dual core tegra Atrix phone. Trust me... Epic is hands down best. I owned a Evo and a shift. Both underperform compared to Epic.
Thanks a lot guys after reading I think I may just wait for next row of phones.. when do you think they'll come out?
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Brah the epic is a MAN PHONE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UB2DtU0UOo
The shift is something I would recommend to my grandma. though i wouldn't recommend a android phone to any tech impaired person( as my grandma is, fuuuu dont even get me started.)
From what it seems, the Shift is a less expensive/toned-down alternative to the Epic and Evo. So you're more or less comparing two differently classed phones.
Also, I love the keyboard on the epic. It's very roomy and comfortable, especially with its five rows. Plus, the Super AMOLED screen is gorgeous and a serious selling point. And regarding support on XDA, the Epic has nearly 10 times more threads and posts in each sub-forum.
I've never actually owned a Shift, but just from the numbers it seems the Epic is a much better deal, especially since they are the same price on Amazon. But waiting for Sprint's next lineup of Android phones seems like a good choice as well.
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There's still problems with the sport mode in the camera... and the camcorder being a little sluggish in low light.
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Not sure if it makes a difference to you or not, but thete is now a fix fir the cameta issues in eb13. Keepin' the faith that sprint will release a more stable update soon. In the mean time get the epic and trust in the great devs we have here.
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Not sure if it makes a difference to you or not, but thete is now a fix fir the cameta issues in eb13. Keepin' the faith that sprint will release a more stable update soon. In the mean time get the epic and trust in the great devs we have here.
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Lol screw samsung and sprint for updates. Devs for the win.
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Shift out performs evo.. epic has it beat on the graphics end. at least according to benchmark apps. I think I'm going to go with the shift for now... ill just add another line late this summer to try and get another phone..
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From what it seems, the Shift is a less expensive/toned-down alternative to the Epic and Evo. So you're more or less comparing two differently classed phones.
Also, I love the keyboard on the epic. It's very roomy and comfortable, especially with its five rows. Plus, the Super AMOLED screen is gorgeous and a serious selling point. And regarding support on XDA, the Epic has nearly 10 times more threads and posts in each sub-forum.
I've never actually owned a Shift, but just from the numbers it seems the Epic is a much better deal, especially since they are the same price on Amazon. But waiting for Sprint's next lineup of Android phones seems like a good choice as well.
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Heavy
I've had the Epic and the Evo, not the Shift tho. But I've played with the Shift for a while and one thing that surprises me is HOW HEAVY it is! For the weight difference, I'd almost just get the Epic. Regardless... if you want a billion ROM's that's hard to decipher and just really be confused most of the time, get an HTC. Tho, I will say their stock ROM's hand Samy's rear to them. The build quality on all three phones I would say are on par with each other.
The GPS on the Evo is AMAZING! I ALWAYS get a quick lock (within 5-10 seconds of opening up maps), and after 15-20 seconds, it's accurate to 3m (9 feet!), the Epic, not so much. After about 30 seconds, it'd lock, and only be accurate to 20m (60 feet!?!). As for using navigation on the phone, again, I would buy a garmin or tom-tom before I'd use the Epic's navigation.
Bottom line, yeah, if you need a phone that just works, any HTC is the way to go. BUT, the screen, size of keyboard, how good it plays games, did I mention the screen quality? are unmatched on the Epic. Hardware-wise (beyond maybe the GPS), the Epic is unbeaten.
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Shift out performs evo.. epic has it beat on the graphics end. at least according to benchmark apps. I think I'm going to go with the shift for now... ill just add another line late this summer to try and get another phone..
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The answers to all of your questions in this thread. A very nice debate between some of us hardware nuts. (I won. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907182
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Shift out performs evo.. epic has it beat on the graphics end. at least according to benchmark apps. I think I'm going to go with the shift for now... ill just add another line late this summer to try and get another phone..
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Untrue. Stop using Quadrant and Linpack (outdated benchmarks that are optimized for Snapdragon) and you'll see that it is simply not the case.
MHz for MHz, the Qualcomm MSM SoCs are slightly more powerful than the Hummingbird, but at 800 MHz they still fall behind the 1 GHz S5PC110.
I was using smartbench what do u think of that one?
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I got the shift by the way... and I'm am loving it. Superior device imo.
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Shift is good, but the epic is on a whole other level, in terms of hardware. Stock the shift has the better software, but if your going to mod your phone with some of the awesome xda dev software.......that's where you'll see what I mean by being on a whole other level. Don't wait to long to trade your new shift in and get a real upgrade
So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
Will be posting in both sides to get more answers
Epic 4g
Froyo= SyndicateROM Frozen 1.2
Gingerbread= AnonymousROM i3
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Boobs
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your second PWNED
LOL ^ 4th
Btw, I'd choose Epic over Shift.
You don't need more answers lol, just the 1st post, wait! And 2nd... yeah your going to need the 2nd one also.
...5th!
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I would bet that the Epic would perform better and imo the keyboard is also better. Epic is easily rooted and has a nicer display. Easy pick.
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7th..
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The epic pretty much is an all around better phone
An argument could be made on the SW side, but that falls by the wayside if you are not staying stock
Mainly, the EVO Shift is simply missing to many top level hardware items, that make it a upper mid range phone rather than the top tier the Epic is
I was faced with the same question when I bought not long ago.
Screen size favors Epic (4.0" - 3.6" That's a significant difference in Real Estate)
Screen brightness favors Epic (Samsungs Super AMOLED easily tops anything HTC has IMO)
Keyboard favors Epic (the larger size of the phone spaces the keys better, Epic has 5 rows including dedicated number row)
Processor favors the Epic (1.0 Ghz Hummingbird - 800 Mhz Snapdragon)
I believe rated battery stock time is 5.50 hrs for Epic to 6.00 for Shift.
Epic has front facing camera (which I never use, but some people do I'm sure)
The list goes on, but you can google other features.
As far as Flashing ROMs, I am NOT really tech savvy, but after reading through these forums I was not only able to root the phone quickly, but flashing was simple and I have found the ROMs I've used to be stable and functional with very few bugs. Can't beat that.
Epic, all the way.
Epic. Who ever choosed shift needs a swift kick in the wallnuts.
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So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
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Even though i love my epic i would go with the shift because it has locked gps in a few seconds and capable of overclocking to 2.0Ghz and 1.6Ghz stable.
Its fun to use but i like epic 4g because of its screen. and Samsung is Easy to manipulate and easy to use like rooting and all that stuff.
But now its easy to get the Shift rooted in all.
I just like the bigger screen and AMOLED is deal breaker. i went with the shift at 1st because Samsung pissed me off as well as thousands more, with a certain phone.
Thanks everybody for your answers .. I'm leaning towards the Epic now.
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Even though i love my epic i would go with the shift because it has locked gps in a few seconds and capable of overclocking to 2.0Ghz and 1.6Ghz stable.
Its fun to use but i like epic 4g because of its screen. and Samsung is Easy to manipulate and easy to use like rooting and all that stuff.
But now its easy to get the Shift rooted in all.
I just like the bigger screen and AMOLED is deal breaker. i went with the shift at 1st because Samsung pissed me off as well as thousands more, with a certain phone.
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Yeah .. I'm leaning more towards the Epic though just because of the screen and 5 row keyboard.. But the thing I heard is that the Epic phones screen black out all the time, and I'm not going to have insurance or be on Sprint (flashing) .. And the HTC build quality is superior to Samsung. So I'm stuck.. any more suggestions?
I figured I would post this here, even though I also placed it in the troll thread, as it was having the same discussion
I haven't heard of the Epic screens blacking out, but mine has held up beyond belief, even after facing harsh abuse.
IMO, it is a not a "power/speed" issue that makes the EVO Shift a lesser phone, but the overall lack of top end hardware features, and those CAN'T be modded in later
Here are several reviews with the conclusions, as well as links to the original reviews, and the Epic is not just a winner, but a CLEAR winner in every case.
From Techd
You don’t have to imagine how two Android smartphones would perform when pitted against one another, as the folks at WireFly have done the deed. Pitting HTC EVO Shift 4G against the Samsung Epic 4G, the latter wins out big time.
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So, it seems like the EVO Shift 4G did admirably well for some basic processes, but stumbled badly when it comes to complex 3G graphics. But then again, it has a lower running processor than the Epic 4G with only 800MHz — though that’s not the end all be all performance measurement.
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4G Phone Fight: Evo Shift Battles Epic 4G
Avatar for Brian Barrett Brian Barrett —4G Phone Fight: Evo Shift Battles Epic 4G Let's say you want a 4G phone, because 4 is one more G than your current phone has. If you're deciding between Sprint's finest—the HTC Evo Shift and the Samsung Epic 4G—you're gonna want to watch this.
Both phones are sliders, both are on the same network, and by outward appearances seem pretty much identical. But! The Epic 4G, it turns out, is packing way more horses under the hood. As it should, considering it costs almost twice as much as the Shift.
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The Winner
Unlike other previous battles such as the HTC Thunderbolt vs. Motorola Droid Bionic battle, Samsung Epic 4Gthe HTC EVO Shift 4G vs. Samsung Epic 4G battle seems to have a pretty clear cut winner. The Samsung Epic 4G, even though it came out first, has huge advantages when it comes to display, and features while the HTC EVO Shift 4G manages to win a slight edge in design and software. Overall the advantages of the Samsung Epic 4G are too big to ignore and it easily comes out on top in this battle of 4G keyboard slider smartphones on Sprint.
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heres the thing though Shift is running 2nd Gen Snap. And even @ 800Mhz it pulls double score than Epic @1Ghz both on froyo.
Then Shift on 2.3 just blows the sh*t outta the Epic.
Newer Technology is better.
Older Technology is Wiser.
But in the end its all down to personal preference.
Just mess with both phones see what you really like and want.
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heres the thing though Shift is running 2nd Gen Snap. And even @ 800Mhz it pulls double score than Epic @1Ghz both on froyo.
Then Shift on 2.3 just blows the sh*t outta the Epic.
Newer Technology is better.
Older Technology is Wiser.
But in the end its all down to personal preference.
Just mess with both phones see what you really like and want.
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But official GB is just around the corner for the Epic (and already available if rooted). So with that, its still weigted twords the Epic imo.
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Thanks everybody for your answers .. I'm leaning towards the Epic now.
Yeah .. I'm leaning more towards the Epic though just because of the screen and 5 row keyboard.. But the thing I heard is that the Epic phones screen black out all the time, and I'm not going to have insurance or be on Sprint (flashing) .. And the HTC build quality is superior to Samsung. So I'm stuck.. any more suggestions?
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Never had my screen go black or anything at all for that matter, but that would be covered by manufactures warranty I think.
The screen is amazing.
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shawayne21 said:
Thanks everybody for your answers .. I'm leaning towards the Epic now.
Yeah .. I'm leaning more towards the Epic though just because of the screen and 5 row keyboard.. But the thing I heard is that the Epic phones screen black out all the time, and I'm not going to have insurance or be on Sprint (flashing) .. And the HTC build quality is superior to Samsung. So I'm stuck.. any more suggestions?
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What do you mean goes black out? like the power saving feature? you can set the timer on that...
As for build quality..who told you HTC phones have better build quality? that is a myth created because the samsung phones feel so light..the build quality is top notch, not to mention Gorilla Glass..
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heres the thing though Shift is running 2nd Gen Snap. And even @ 800Mhz it pulls double score than Epic @1Ghz both on froyo.
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What scores? don't tell me quadrant/linpack...
gTen said:
What do you mean goes black out? like the power saving feature? you can set the timer on that...
As for build quality..who told you HTC phones have better build quality? that is a myth created because the samsung phones feel so light..the build quality is top notch, not to mention Gorilla Glass..
What scores? don't tell me quadrant/linpack...
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SmartBench 2010 and other various benchmarks but Quadrant does pull higher but thats not point. the point is its newer technology 45nm instead of 65nm.