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I'm curious, because I'm new to this phone and smartphones/pocket pcs period, but is this phone quite buggy, or is it due to things I've added. I find that frequently if I do two things at once and it has to think too hard that title bars and such disappear and get stuck and I have to restart it to fix it. This affect seems to multiply if you happen to try to close the slider while it's busy thinking. Last night I got a call while writing an email and closed the slider to answer. By the time the call screen came up, it had already rang 4 times and gone to voicemail, and in the end, it was all messed up again and needed a reboot.
Maybe this is common to these phones, I've just never had one so I dunno. I'm sure the lack of memory plays a major part in how slow it runs when it has to do two things at once.
AJerman said:
I'm curious, because I'm new to this phone and smartphones/pocket pcs period, but is this phone quite buggy, or is it due to things I've added. I find that frequently if I do two things at once and it has to think too hard that title bars and such disappear and get stuck and I have to restart it to fix it. This affect seems to multiply if you happen to try to close the slider while it's busy thinking. Last night I got a call while writing an email and closed the slider to answer. By the time the call screen came up, it had already rang 4 times and gone to voicemail, and in the end, it was all messed up again and needed a reboot.
Maybe this is common to these phones, I've just never had one so I dunno. I'm sure the lack of memory plays a major part in how slow it runs when it has to do two things at once.
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Not having enough free ram can wreak havoc on the device. I've gotta say though that this has been one of the least buggy phones that I have dealt with. On average, how much free ram do you have? Anything less than about 14mb seems to send things to slow-ville for me
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Not having enough free ram can wreak havoc on the device. I've gotta say though that this has been one of the least buggy phones that I have dealt with. On average, how much free ram do you have? Anything less than about 14mb seems to send things to slow-ville for me
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Ever since installing X-Button and being more careful, I try to stay around 15mb. It doesn't seem like a memory issue though. It just seems like often programs wont open, close, or generally operate correctly, sometimes leaving artifacts of itself that can't be removed all over the screen forcing a reboot. Perhaps it's just something to get used to with a Pocket PC, it's not horrible, but every so often it gets a little annoying. I was just curious if it was perhaps caused by software I had installed, or if it was just normal to have issues every so often.
I too am finding it does that. Especially when moving from Portrait to landscape mode. Some times the old portrait screen will lock up and over lay the landscape screen. I just go in and stop some running programs.
But I've discovered an issue I can't seem to easily fix. Twice now the phone has shut off completely. Both times I have been asleep when this happened so I can't say what causes it. I don't have it set to go to sleep (at least I don't think so!) so I don't know what the issue is. Today I went to sleep about 6 hours and when I woke phone was completely off. Had to do a soft reset to start it. Power button wouldn't work at all. Then when it did finally come up it showed no new text or no new voice mail messages. I had new messages on both that were delivered after I fell asleep. Any ideas? Suggestions? I do have the slider/launcher program but neither were running when I went to bed today. The only app I kept running was call firewall. All others were closed out in running programs before I went to bed. Currently my memory is Storage free 29.39MB and Program free 21.12MB. At 1pm my battery was 70% and it is currently at 40%.
I have found that that problem happens only when blue tooth is on. I have started making sure that the bluetooth is off when not in use.
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Hello All:
This is my first post here but just reading around has solved many problems for me already. However, my phone (sprint mogul 8600) has been misbehaving and even a hard reset did not solve this problem.
My problem is that the stupid thing won't stay asleep, ruining my battery life and sanity. Is there a way to set it so that it will only wake on active decisions (incoming text, incoming call) and me pushing the power button? I've cruised option after option but I haven't been able to find anything useful.
It still functions properly when it should wake up, it just seems to wake up every few minutes on my desk and i think i have an incoming something to deal with. In the end I have just stopped paying attention and have missed lots of calls because of it.
My apologies if there is a faq that goes over this already, I looked but could not find.
Thanks in advance
Battery life goes down approximately 50% per 10 hrs because the phone turns on as if someone hit the power button at irregular intervals. Is the phone SUPPOSED to be able to turn on for reasons other than incoming messages or using the power button? Its driving me crazy, I can't even go out for a day because it will run out of battery.
Are you running a custom rom or stock rom? If stock, is the most up to date from your carrier? After you did the hard reset, did you test it before installing any cab files? It's possible one of the apps you are installing may cause this.
If it's the stock rom and you are installing nothing, I would say it's a defective phone.
I know on an old PDA I had years back at midnight every night it would turn on, it would do maintenance on my scheduler and then turn back off, but haven't seen my phone ever do this during normal hours.
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It has to be software on that rom or additional installed by you. If you haven't installed any software you might want to try flashing a custom rom and see if that takes care of it.
i have had the same problems with my ppc6800 and blackjack 2, i think it has to do with the changing networks... on my drive home from mass to maine it will do it in about 5 spots anyways consistantly. in my hotel in mass i get crappy reception and itll do it every now and then. this has been an issue with both phones. bugs the hell outta me on my trip home cus itll light up, then i grab it to figure out why and theres nothing... learned to live with it
I performed a hard reset after continued trouble with this. It will come on at least 1 time per hour, and as often as every 5 minutes, with absolutely nothing done to it short of initial calibration/data entry. It will also do this sitting on my desk, not moving or anything.
I suppose I could try a custom rom, but I fear I am opening pandora's box, as I am told these phones are on backorder if i happen to brick mine. Any recommendations for a new ROM to try?
This is normal.
Is this sufficient problem to get it replaced? A hard reset and nothing else and problem persists.
It's a win mobile "feature" since the early WinCE days. Every Palm-size/WinCE/WinMO device I've owned turned itself on from time to time. Now, it's blamed on network changes, mostly going in and out of EVDO coverage. When these were simple PDA's, it was blamed on internal housekeeping. If you corner a MS rep on the issue, they will blame the hardware and outside software vendors. I never believed them. Either get used to it or buy a device other than a WinMo based, it will never ever be fixed!
BTW, I'm in my basement where I get less than an ideal signal and my Mogul has turned on and off 3 times while I was typing this.
I have my phone sitting next to me in the cradle all night long, 2-3 hours before I go to bed I turn out the lights to either view my laptop easier or watch TV, if my phone was turning on I would know it because I would have bright light in my eyes.
So I would say it's not as common as you described in the 2-3 times while composing the email. Mine might turn on at midnight, tho I am usually asleep by then, so I can't say for sure, but the only time it turns on (that I know of) is when I receive a text message or a phone call. Emails don't wake up my phone. And I get 20-30 emails a day.
I am on a 1X only network, no EVDO here yet, so it could be an issue with EVDO, in my phone settings I have an option for Service Tone, that makes a beeping sound when I lose or regain service, might try turning that on and see if it's beeping when the phone is turning on. If so, it's a signal issue.
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I have this problem too and hate it. Every time I come out of the subway the phone turns on in my pocket. I cant drive at night with the phone facing up on the dash because it turns on every couple of mins. It's completely annoying, kills the battery and launches tons of programs, every once in a while it makes calls too. I would be very happy to get this "feature" taken off my phone!
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WinMo devices turning on all by themselves is the reason there are so many screen lock programs available. If you've got a WM device and plan to carry it in a confined pocket (like your pants) check out S2U2 or throttlelock. Your phone turns on when leaving the subway because it's aquiring a signal, it probably turned on while in the train while searching for signal too. While driving, you're probably passing in and out of 3G coverage which will also turn the device on. If you stay in a solid signal area, the phone will stay off for the most part, but that does negate the whole mobile thing a bit. The center of my basement where my home theater is gets a inconsistant 3G signal. My Mogul will turn on and off and kill the battery in a few hours. My wifes Palm, my friends BB's and iphones won't turn on once. Once again, the issue of WM/PocketPC/WinCE turning on for no apparent reason has been a c ommon complaint for years, at least to the Casio E105 days when I started on my WM journey. Since MS has never addressed the issue, I doubt they ever will.
I have never had the phone random come on from sleep. Leaving and entering coverage doesn't change that. I say you have something in the rom causing the problem or a program running in the background
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I have never had the phone random come on from sleep. Leaving and entering coverage doesn't change that. I say you have something in the rom causing the problem or a program running in the background
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You've never taken the phone out of a pocket or holster to find it already on? My 6700 on VZW did and I think I ran every ROM developed for it at one time or another, each of my 3 Moguls running various OEM and custom ROM's did/does. I've heard similar complaints from coworkers running various
WM devices. A friend I take the train with daily complained about this with his AT&T Tilt too. Both my non phone Axims (x5 & x51) occasionally turned on as did my Toshiba E805, Casio e100, e105 and e115. Every WinCE based device forum I have participated in over the years has featured complaints about WM turning on with no user interaction. Obviously, it's not a deal breaker for me, but it does happen...a lot. The issue in my basement is the extreme of the problem, move the phone towards the exterior walls and the phone reverts to only turning on and quickly off occasionally. Another example. When traveling by LIRR to Penn Station the phone will stay off even when entering the river tunnel ad traveling under Manhattan. At some point when I exit the station, the phone turns itself on. Since I'm walking in rush hour crowds, I've never tried to find at which exact point my Mogul turns on, but it's always on when I get my coffee in Borders Cafe.
I have never taken it out of my pocket and have it been turned on. It is always in sleep mode.
This also happens to me, i own a mogul, and this is really and extremely annoying.
i have test it for few months and this is my conclusion.
As you guys said already just wait for few min and it will turn on the screen, but also when i shake it and when you hit it.
it really is a battery killer.
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This also happens to me, i own a mogul, and this is really and extremely annoying.
i have test it for few months and this is my conclusion.
As you guys said already just wait for few min and it will turn on the screen, but also when i shake it and when you hit it.
it really is a battery killer.
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If it's turning on when you shake it, you probably have a hardware issue.
im sry for posting another topic, went through all other topics and none helped me, my x10 has been rebooting randomly alot, never did when i first got it
it restarts when im using edge while browsing the internet, restarts sometimes during games, restarts when calling someone and ALOT when i use it when its plugged
i tried so far flashing it from SEUS, removing apps, playing around with settings
its a problem so big for me im concidering changing phones, and returning the x10 to a shop or sending it for warranty arnt options for me
I think it's the phone running out of Ram because your having too much stuff open
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I think it's the phone running out of Ram because your having too much stuff open
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no, usually happens after it just booted while doing a random action
Probably time to back up your apps and wipe things out. Also, defrag your SD card because a few times mine became amazingly fragmented.
You could back track and try figuring out what app or what change had caused this but for the same amount of effort you can start fresh. I routinely wipe things out. I do it partially because if you only do a few reformats every now and again it becomes a daunting, intimidating task where you fear losing important info, etc.. just my two cents.
Mine is doing it too, while I have almost no extra applications installed and I don't use timescape and very rarely mediascape.
Just laying on my desk when suddenly the display lights up and the phone says simcard locked (asking for my pincode).
Happens approx. once every 1-2 days, and sometimes a short time after I reboot.
I never noticed it in the almost 6 months I have this phone, until I plugged in a new simcard with the pincode request active
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Reseating the SIM and SD card can definitely help too. But I've personally used the same SIM cards for years without challenges on the network or with my phones. Sometimes you get a dud or some dust in there.
I like using Hot Reboot to reboot my phone from time to time as well. I don't do it too often because I like to see how long my battery lasts, but it helps out a ton. Much better than killing tasks. I only do that before putting my phone to sleep for a long time, just in case some stray apps don't close or trick WiFi into staying on, etc.
My phone seems to be rebooting much more when I plug in to charge (while on the phone or having the earphones plugged in) . . . Its really annoying. Last night just trying to talk to my girlfriend it rebooted about.. 7 times? Less than 30 minutes. That is very frustrating. . I'll go home later and try to defrag the card and maybe the sim and such. I'll see what happens.. if it keeps up I might just have to go back to the storm1 until 2.1 comes out. Hopefully that'll fix this rebooting problem..
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My phone seems to be rebooting much more when I plug in to charge (while on the phone or having the earphones plugged in) . . . Its really annoying. Last night just trying to talk to my girlfriend it rebooted about.. 7 times? Less than 30 minutes. That is very frustrating. . I'll go home later and try to defrag the card and maybe the sim and such. I'll see what happens.. if it keeps up I might just have to go back to the storm1 until 2.1 comes out. Hopefully that'll fix this rebooting problem..
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same here, its a perfect phone i and i dnt mind anything in it but the reboot problem, cuz i already have a couple of deals lined up to sell it and if the prob isnt fixed any time soon im gonna take the plunge and sell it
it is a hardware failure. If you smell the back (behind the cover) u smell something burning. it will hapen more often and than you have to take it to a repair center where they can fix it under warrenty. They are repairing mine right now.....
I have same issue in HK & got replace mainboard but still got error restart.
Finally they change a new X10i to me beside they need me keep my old back cover!
My friend has got the same issue and the phone was sent back with the same problem again. In return we sent it back again to sony and we received a new phone
I wonder if the restarting could be related to wifi,
I didn't enable the wifi for about 2 weeks now and it didn't reboot once.
Just leaving 3g network on for the moment.
get your x10 replaced with its motherboard. i had to threaten legal action just to get the restart loop fixed.
its a very common problem with a faulty batch or with the phone itself. you can check all the complaints here
talk dot sonyericsson dot com/message/24287
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im sry for posting another topic, went through all other topics and none helped me, my x10 has been rebooting randomly alot, never did when i first got it
it restarts when im using edge while browsing the internet, restarts sometimes during games, restarts when calling someone and ALOT when i use it when its plugged
i tried so far flashing it from SEUS, removing apps, playing around with settings
its a problem so big for me im concidering changing phones, and returning the x10 to a shop or sending it for warranty arnt options for me
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m8 i had exactly the same problem first the restart was just randomly and then the START became random i mean when i boot my phone it restarted itself over and over again so i turn it off and leave it to rest then when i switch it on again i was able to use it about 30 min and then the restarting session comes back again and i wasnt even able to log in to Android OS . The device just reached Sonny Ericsson logo and restart .SO i gave it back to the shop i bought it from and after few days they gave me new one coz it was some hardware issue they couldnt fix that was the only way to repair it for me.
P.s. 1st i bought black xperia but they gave me white cant be more happy coz i wanted white when i first went to the shop but they ware all sold ..
I think it happens when the phone gets too hot. check the back of your phone and feel it it is overly warm, I know my phone has rebooted sometimes when I have been doing cpu intensive tasks and multitasking or using the gps for a while. This happened with my g1 as well.
Are you using a Task Killer? If so, do NOT kill the Backup and Restore application on the phone and see if that resolves your problem.
I know it sounds strange, but I was having a similar issue where my phone would randonly restarted. It only started to happen after I did a firmware upgrade that installed the Backup and Restore feature (I'm on Rogers). Once I stopped killing the app, my problems stopped.
For mine it was GPS. Disabling GPS stops rebooting the phone.
bad chipset... return to se.
Before I tried all the other MODs, especially Froyo ROMs, everything works fine.
After trying and flashing and downloading and ... my GPS will now work for nearly 30 mins or equal to kilometers driven and then reboots or GPS signal lost
It needs to cool down or the timeframe will be shorter just after the reboot. To turn GPS on/off will not work.
I tried everything in any possible combination:with and without backcover; car charger; Navigon, MAPs; reflashed back to 2.1 Stock; formatting SDCard; changed SDCard - problem remains
I wouldn't say that it's the cover will be hot..yes warm, but that's all.
My problem is, that there is a little crack on the touchscreen on the upper left side, so I guess SE will not replace my generic full-paid handset.
I still have this problem lately, and it is right out of warranty, so i am stuck with this phone.
I check with robbers (rogers) if i can get another phone cheaper... heck they are selling me old smart phones more expensive then the market.
I think i am through with Sony ericsson, phone is nice but their choice of manufacturers are horrible.
Seriously, Sony deserve to be hacked and deserve to lose billions.
Trying to see if there's something in common with those who are experiencing lock ups.
My crashes arent frequently but it has happened a few times
Seem like I am having some crashing, though it seems to be dependent on using data service with little or no 3G reception. 16gb Model.
My units is not crashing all the time but it does it at least once a day which is bad. It seems to be when trying to switch between using cell network and WiFi. Would be nice if it was fixable with firmware.
Mine hasn't crashed so far. I tried downloading Harvest Game and it went fine over wifi. Tried heavy browsing with music in bgrnd and that too was fine. Only issue was the Bluetooth not communicating to the car properly. Its been a week now.
ive crashed only once, which was in the newsroom app, i was also updating marketplace one time and instead of crashing it would just take me back to the start menu..
mine has been crashing quite a bit...16 gig less than 14 gig available...
In the first 36 hrs I had the phone, I spent at least half of it in the PC connect screen. The phone would not boot...well..sometimes. Then it would boot by itself...reboot rather.
I called MS, ZUNE support. They helped walked me through some basic steps. Apparently I was touching the side buttons, camera, volume down, while powering up. Not sure if this was true, but dam they could reproduce the PC connect everytime. Since that call, I was more careful about powering up and have had no problems since.
I do get a lag in IE on WiFi, sometimes, not often, but daily. I found a web page that always sends me back to the desktop.
But crashing.....I have to be honest and admit that most of the crashes...if not all, in the first 36 hrs, probably were user errors. Now, I'm not a novice. I own more smartphones than most people on this forum. And if the phone buttons are that sensitive, then something is not right. However, since I've grown accustomed to the button layout and sensitivity, I've not had a single malfunction.
I've also recognized that certain apps are prone to causing, umm....unexpected results. Maybe instead of voting on crashes...we should keep a list of app suspects....
I got 2 units.
The first one had the Wifi issue and was constantly crashing.
The second one the Wifi is good, and it never crashed.
Maybe is related?
It seems to me that my device crashes a lot when my Wifi is on
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Seem like I am having some crashing, though it seems to be dependent on using data service with little or no 3G reception. 16gb Model.
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Same here, also 16GB model. Every crash I've had has either been related to the Marketplace, or it's happened when my rickety 3G connection had poor signal.
This sucks. Mine is crashing EVERYTIME I try to dl something related to xbox live (games) over wifi. Should I have this exchanged???
Crashes a lot. Sometimes back to back so after doing numerous battery pulls, I had mine switched out. Its always an app though that crashes it and the screen becomes unresponsive. Phone goes to home screen and the people hub is grayed out. Its not an os specific crash cuz my hd7 doesn't do that.
So far phone is mostly stable, crashes have been only with wifi enabled, and only had 1 other crash without wifi on. Been running for the last 3 days, no crash at all.
I have had my phone almost a week and have been noticing the crashing a bit more frequent. It always seems like when I am in the MP or using an app that requires retrieving data from the cloud.
I got mine since November... never saw it crashing
Only once it would not start...I had to remove the batteries and put them back on.
I have a feeling it goes with having it in your pocket for a long time.
Sometimes (happened twice in 3 month) the screen locks but it has something to do with static electricity, or rain (I switched on and off and it worked).
I got it upgraded to 32 GB by swapping the micro SD card.
Took a while to boot.... (I think it reformats the card) worked like a charm!
Fankly, it is the sexiest piece of hardware I've owned in a long time.
Much more stable than any phone I ever owned.
I've had my 16GB since the 28th. I have not had a single crash, freeze or hang in the 5 days I have been using it. OS performance wise, it has pretty much been perfect.
I am probably not a typical owner though. I was an existing T-Mo customer on the EM+ plan. I didn't have to call or activate the DVP with T-Mo. I just took the SIM out of my flip phone and put it into my DVP and was up and running. Since I am on EM+ and I paid full price for the phone, I am also not required to have a data plan and I haven't gotten around to adding one yet. Everything I have done is solely over Wifi. I think the fact that I don't have a data plan is going to wind up being the explanation for my lack of problems. I don't know if it is a Microsoft or Dell problem, but 3G and WiFi just don't seem to get along well on the DVP.
Even though I have been limited to Wifi, I have been using this thing constantly trying to get everything setup. I haven't had any Marketplace issues at all. I've been using the Facebook, Twitter and Netflix apps quite a bit. No Xbox Live stuff or YouTube app though. I installed the LastPass app and tested almost all of 50+ logins without any issues. All in all, I think I have given my DVP a fairly tough stress test and I honestly have to say it has passed with pretty high marks.
That's not to say my DVP is perfect though. I have had some bugs. The biggest for me is the cellular antenna. I get a mediocre phone signal in my apartment. My flip phone would hover between 2 and 3 bars out of 5. I get much worse reception on the DVP. I get a ton of No Service notices, especially when I pick it up. But it isn't just a death grip issue. I'll sit the phone on the arm of my couch and watch it fluctuate between No Service and 1 or 2 bars. If I want to make a call on the DVP, I have to take laps around my apartment trying to find a decent signal. Not fun. Outside of the dead zone that live in the reception is fine. If I get 5 bars, it stays at 5 bars no matter how I hold it. I also don't care for the SMS texting app. When I attempt to send a text while I have a low signal, I don't get a confirmation either way after I hit send. I sent 3 texts in a row out on Thursday afternoon and only 1 got through. It would have been nice to see a "Message Sent" or Message Failed" confirmation either way. I also can't import Contacts from my Sim. I see the box for it on my People Settings page, but it is greyed out. Very annoying. And I know it's a known issue with Microsoft, but the not being able to connect to a WiFi with a hidden SSID is just ridiculous.
I really haven't made up my mind yet on whether I am keeping my DVP. On the one hand, I really like WP7 and it seems like I got lucky and got one of the problem free DVP's. But I'm also not sure if I can live with the bad reception at home. I guess I'll just have to wait and see if anything interesting is announced at CES.
16GB and it locked up all of the time... It would just freeze there with whatever it was on the screen. That happened until I turned Wifi off. Now it's great. The only time that it crashed with wifi off was when I was running Beezz and it just hard locked for some reason.
So I would like to have Wifi... 3G coverage is spotty at best where I live. What are the chances of a firmware fix, ya think? I'm almost tempted to send it back to Dell... Even though I love it to death. Gosh that keyboard is amazing...
I sure hope it gets sorted out...
Can someone list the symptoms of crashing? Is it just screen freeze or apps won't launch when touched or something different? I had case y'day where except people, email and phone, none of the other apps would launch. When launched it would just return to the home screen right away. Then a battery pull fixed it. That was the first i had the issue since receiving the phone on 12/23. I have time till end of this week to decide on return or replacement.
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I am probably not a typical owner though. I was an existing T-Mo customer on the EM+ plan. I didn't have to call or activate the DVP with T-Mo. I just took the SIM out of my flip phone and put it into my DVP and was up and running. Since I am on EM+ and I paid full price for the phone, I am also not required to have a data plan and I haven't gotten around to adding one yet.
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Mike, have you received any calls on it yet? My experience has been that you can make outgoing calls all you want, but you need to tell T-Mo the new IMEI number to receive calls. That could also be why you haven't gotten a notification about the text messages.
When I called T-Mo to get the phone set up, they also told me about the available insurance plans (from $5.99/mo that covers the phone completely-loss/theft/damage/etc, to less than $2 for minimal coverage). I was on an out-of-contract plan too and had to pick up the phone at full price. My plan was phone+data, no messaging, so I only pay for texting. Everything done over WiFi or 3G has been great.
As for crashes, I think it's locked up 3 times now that required removing the battery and putting it back in. Those all happened within the first few days of owning it, but not since. (got it on the 23rd)
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With help from this forum I upgraded my Chinese Axon 7 to Build A2017V3.0.0B17 back in the autumn. It's now on Build A2017V3.0.0B23. I think it did that update a month or so back.
Anyway for some weeks, which I don't think coincided with the update (but it may have done), I have apps freezing on startup. E.g. Uber splash screen comes up and sometimes it goes to the next (white) screen before it freezes, and sometimes not. In Chrome I have a number of tabs, sometimes it starts properly and opens them all and sometimes it freezes before it's opened them. (With Chrome , if I keep closing it down and restarting eventually it works).There are lots of apps like this, although there are also lots which are still working OK.
So last night I took the plunge and set it back to factory. Iv'e been reluctant to do this because I am on such a steep learning curve on rebuilding phones and I wasn't sure what it might do.
The outcome was that it reset just fine, still on B23, and so I started putting back my apps. Only to find I still have the issue.
So... should I put it back to B17 and see what happens, or can anyone advise anything else to look at before I do?
Thanks
Oh well, over the weekend I took the plunge. I used EDL method to put on A2017G onto my A2017 phone. It took a couple of attempts, and I think I have one or two outstanding gremlins, but by and large the phone seems at least as good as before. I need to check out making and receiving calls - tested it once with my partner and all was fine but a later call seemed to conncct but nothing heard by me. Using it as a phone is a small part if it's existence but it's important.
I have got back some of the Google stuff which didn't work after the last update, like Timeline.
However I don't seem able to get back into FTM mode or to get my PC to recognise the phone any more (except as a disk device) so I guess next time round I'll have to splash out on a new phone...