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I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.
Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.
Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.
Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?
Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?
ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications
Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here
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I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello
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I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.
Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?
any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this
I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it
it also shows up at times when you are entering a password
Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...
Hi folks
I love this forum and am so glad its here, it seems to be the only place where ppl can get support for the HD right now.
I am using the TouchPal keyboard 3.5. It installed fine and I started using it and configuring it grand etc. But after a while it stops responding.
If I click on the small keyoard icon at the bottom of my screen, no keyboard pops up whatsoever. If I go to settings and change the default keyboard from TouchPal to say - Full Querty and press OK, the change does not take place (If I go back into settings, the keyboard is reset to TouchPal).
So I am left wthout a keyboard and I have to do a full restart of the phone. If I uninstall TouchPal all is well and the keyboard system reverts back to working normally.
Has anyone else expereinced similar ?
Many thanks for any help
gt
iv got version 3.5 aswel, iv had no problems with it
the only problem i have is that, in landscape mode the key sizes dont increase, it appears small, but never the less a great keyboard
Hi xdaman85
Try running Remote Desktop and see if the keyboard behaves there, thats where it dies on me.
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Hi xdaman85
Try running Remote Desktop and see if the keyboard behaves there, thats where it dies on me.
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just tried that, no problem what so ever
try this
uninstall, soft reset, install, soft reset, then go to settings, inputs, choose touchpal as default keyboard, then press ok, then soft reset
i know thats long but it should do the trick, seems to me as if that it wasnt installed correctly and theres some errors, so try what i said and let me know if it works
OK guys, it seems I am not alone in having prolems with TouchPal on the HD. See this thread on CoolTek's forum.
http://www.cootek.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=742&PN=1
I have tried everything, I have uninstalled the kb, reinstalled it. Last night I completely reinstalled the entire phone (hard reset, wipe, reistall) but TouchPal still stops working after a while.
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OK guys, it seems I am not alone in having prolems with TouchPal on the HD. See this thread on CoolTek's forum.
http://www.cootek.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=742&PN=1
I have tried everything, I have uninstalled the kb, reinstalled it. Last night I completely reinstalled the entire phone (hard reset, wipe, reistall) but TouchPal still stops working after a while.
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just the thread, i guess your right, your not alone...but..its still wierd as iv been using touchpal since last wednesday and its still working fine for me
could it be that touchpal is conflicting with another keyboard on the device?
Have you gone to settings/inputs and selected touchpal as the keyboard?
I cant think of any other ideas because its working perfectly for me
Thanks xdaman
Just done a new re-install and it seems ok now. TBH I am now using the version from Cooltek so I may have had myself to blame.
On another note, I am having probs setting custom commands, I have the followig questions, can anyone offer any wisdom ?
You can setup custom commands such as Ctrl+z etc. They can be stored in place holders accessed by tab+downslide on the Control Tab button (the one with the 4 arrows). The instructions for creating custom command scan be found in the manual (section 4.2) here
Here are my questions
1. How do you create a combination command? e.g. They have a built in command called "Select All && Copy". This is 2 commands. How do you create this ?
2. After I mess up all my command buttons. How do I reset them to their defaults ?
3. When I create a command, Is Flag5 the ASCII key code? The manual is not specific on this. Also, if Flag5 is the ASCII code, why do I need to then enter the Alphabet index of the letter ?
4. I only seem to be able to edit the top Custom command button. If I try and assign values to the lower buttons, the edit appears in the top button. Is this a bug ?
cant install/wont install
downloaded the cab file..after it ran..it looks like explorer window pops up and tried to o something..anyway it says the page cant be found..tried loading in both card and local and get the same response..it does tell me the it was unsuccessful in loading
i gues its the lastest becuase i downloaded from the site
gt112 said:
Hi folks
I love this forum and am so glad its here, it seems to be the only place where ppl can get support for the HD right now.
I am using the TouchPal keyboard 3.5. It installed fine and I started using it and configuring it grand etc. But after a while it stops responding.
If I click on the small keyoard icon at the bottom of my screen, no keyboard pops up whatsoever. If I go to settings and change the default keyboard from TouchPal to say - Full Querty and press OK, the change does not take place (If I go back into settings, the keyboard is reset to TouchPal).
So I am left wthout a keyboard and I have to do a full restart of the phone. If I uninstall TouchPal all is well and the keyboard system reverts back to working normally.
Has anyone else expereinced similar ?
Many thanks for any help
gt
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Hi,
I use Touchpal V3.5 and i absolutely love it, if you haven't tired it I highly recommend it, especially good is the mixed language input and I actually type faster using touchpal+gsen in landscape mode than I did with a hardware keyboard (a worry that almost prevented me from buying this marvelous device). I do have two little niggles that would be great if i could overcome somehow:
1. Setting Touchpal to the default keyboard does not stick after a restart/reset. I have to change the keyboard each time i start up. I tried SIP Change but it doesn't seem to have an option for running at start-up....anyone know if i can get at the registry somewhere or something?
2. When I first open it, if i try to type in Chinese before using English, it freezes in a bad way, disabling EVERY window that tries to call the sip and requiring a soft reset to make the phone useable again. If I open it, type something in english, and then switch the input to chinese it runs like a charm until I restart again...what is that about?
Actually neither of these issues is a deal breaker, but it would be nice not to have to worry about it, is anyone else having these troubles?...any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
touchpal
i have touchpal also and cant keep it as default. Ive tried all the fixes there are on all the threads. Doesnt work for Touchpal. any suggestions or fixes would be greatly appreciated.
Well I figured out the answer to problem one on my own...TF3D takes a little time to load and interferes with SipChange so you need to adjust the delay so as to happen after TF3D is finished.
Just tap SIPChange, select the IM you want, and set the time to 45 seconds (shorter may work). Bingo, stays the default IM on restart
whats the difference (apart from it's tabulated) between touchpal and "compact QWERTY" mode keyboard?
you also need to Go make this change: HKCU\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Apps and remove the folder called "Startkey"
I have the same problem with touchpal, where do i do this?
Just tap SIPChange, select the IM you want, and set the time to 45 seconds (shorter may work). Bingo, stays the default IM on restart
@FRUSTIN:
TOuchpal is third-party software by CooTek, "Compact Querty" is just a different layout for the tock HTC input method. TOuchpal is MUCH more feature rich and just kicks the [email protected] out of the default keyboard in every way, it supports tons of languages and multi-language input (go back and forth between two languages in the same sentence without changing any settings), web hotkeys, adds copy/cut/paste and D-pad to EVERY app, etc. check it out at www.cootek.com
@DIAMONDBS:
I did NOT do that and it works perfectly for me...why do you need to remove an entire folder from the registry? Can anone confirm this?
@WEETABIX1980:
Just go to start>programs>SIP Change, when the program opens you select Touchpal from the list of input methods and then change the numbers in the box below the list to 45, then click "Select"...should be the only button there...tapping "OK" is not good enough, be sure to tap "Select"
thanks, any clue what sip change in dutch is in the programs?
anyone knows this?
SIPChange is a little tool developed here at XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
Download the cab to your phone and install. This should then give you the options mentioned above.
Touchpal intermittantly hangs on me aswell. I post on here about it before. I tried allsorts to cure it (hard resets, clean installs etc). So annoying when demoing the phone to a friend and all of a sudden the keyboard hangs and wont popup.
I used to love Touchpal, now I hate it and will not install it on my phone.
Maybe some of you are experiencing the difficulty to remove the SIPs that comes with the cooked roms that you don't want to use. One of the keyboard that I don't like to use is EZInput.
In some cooked roms, even after you select the default keyboard to the new keyboard (e.g. PCMKeyboard or Finger Keyboard) you had installed, it will not default to it after SR or in some cases, can't even be selected using the built in keyboard selector.
I have created a mortscript that will remove all the registry keys of all the SIPSs and leaving it with only the WM keyboard.
1. Run the attached mortscript.
2. Install your favorite keyboard.
3. Install default_IM_WM5.cab.
4. Run default_IM_WM5.cab. and select your favorite keyboard.
5. SR.
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Default_IM_WM5.cab is not made by me. I'm just attaching it here for your convenience. Appreciation to the author.
zard said:
Maybe some of you are experiencing the difficulty to remove the SIPs that comes with the cooked roms that you don't want to use. One of the keyboard that I don't like to use is EZInput.
In some cooked roms, even after you select the default keyboard to the new keyboard (e.g. PCMKeyboard or Finger Keyboard) you had installed, it will not default to it after SR or in some cases, can't even be selected using the built in keyboard selector.
I have created a mortscript that will remove all the registry keys of all the SIPSs and leaving it with only the WM keyboard.
1. Run the attached mortscript.
2. Install your favorite keyboard.
3. Install default_IM_WM5.cab.
4. Run default_IM_WM5.cab. and select your favorite keyboard.
5. SR.
PS:
Default_IM_WM5.cab is not made by me. I'm just attaching it here for your convenience. Appreciation to the author.
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1. this seemed to run, and I had no soft keyboard.
2. FKB 2.1 Giannis would not install. It said, "Unsuccesful". A reboot/reinstall did not help.
I found after reboot, reintalling FKB, I get "an unexpected error has occured in fngkbdconfig.exe"
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1. this seemed to run, and I had no soft keyboard.
2. FKB 2.1 Giannis would not install. It said, "Unsuccesful". A reboot/reinstall did not help.
I found after reboot, reintalling FKB, I get "an unexpected error has occured in fngkbdconfig.exe"
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The keyboard is running now even though there is some strange error at the end of the installation after the configuration. It seems to be working fine.
I'll check the FBK thread to see if I can find out what is going on and report back.
i cannot switch to any other third party keyboards on WM6.5
i got it working after hard reset though...but after soft reset... i couldn't switch to any other
i've been looking for the solution everywhere...SIP Change wont work for me
will this help me ?
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i cannot switch to any other third party keyboards on WM6.5
i got it working after hard reset though...but after soft reset... i couldn't switch to any other
i've been looking for the solution everywhere...SIP Change wont work for me
will this help me ?
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Why don't you give it a try and let us know? So far, I had no need to use this script since I started using cooked 6.5 and 6.5.3 roms. SIP Change does it well.
installed the script, chose FingKeyb in Default_IM and now i get blank screen right after SR , windows doesn't boot (event htc splash screen doesn't appear). hard reset...
Till now I've been using the HD2's standard HTC keyboard as SIP, as I haven't found anything I was really satisfied with.
Until yesterday I installed Resco Keyboard Pro 6 Beta, which is just fantastic (read about it elsewhere in the forum). Perfect for HD2.
But now, I've discovered that a number of my apps changes the SIP back to standard HTC when I open them. Resco's option to make its keyboard the default SIP does work. After soft-reset, it's still the default SIP in most programs.
So I tried installing Fingerkeyboard, SPB Keyboard, etc, just to make sure it wasn't Resco's fault (as it's a beta version anyway...). The same happened with all the other 3rd party keyboards.
Is there anyway to prevent apps from changing the SIP? It's driving me crazy, have to manually switch back to Resco everytime I open those stupid apps (which I depend on at work ) Thank you in advance.
Use XDA google search and look for a programme/cab file called sipchange.
Install it then select the keyboard type you want as your default; problem solved.
WB
Not that simple, I'm afraid. My problem is not how to set Resco as the default keyboard after SR. Get that already with Resco's own inbuilt option. Then I tried using both SIPChange and default_IM_WM5.cab. It still happens, some of my apps changes the keyboard back to standard when executed (and it is not about setting the delay in SIPChange, I'm talking about after all the processes during SR).
That's strange. Never had this problem with Sipchange installed.
You are certain that you have set your preferred default keyboard via the sipchange utility? That's how you get the keyboard you want to boot up after a SR.
If yes then not sure what else to suggest.
WB
Hi, I am having the same problem. One example of such software is Lingvosoft, when you hit search key, the keyboard pop opens, but with default keyboard, even after using sipchange.
I was thinking maybe there's a way to disable the standard HTC keyboards all together through the reg. But that's asking for trouble/hard-reset
What to do...
I think the problem is that using SIPChange, DefaultIM.cab, nueSIPdefault, etc, none of these really changes the value of "defaultim" at controlpanel\sip. It remains with the standard keyboard's CLSID.
I'm really tempted to change this value to Resco's, but reading around here in this forum shows a lot of people having big trouble afterwards messing with this value (mainly because they used the wrong CLSID?) and required a hard-reset...