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I'm a new member with Questions about my HD2

Well, it's more than just questions.
I have the HD2 and I really enjoy it. Think it's a great piece of hardware. WM6.5 gets the job done for the most part, but I can understand some of the concerns with the OS. It's good to hear that you guys are already working on WM7 and the port to this phone!
Truth is, I put my coin in google's corner, so I'm hoping that Android finds its way into the HD2 via T Mobile.
I'm a bit tech savy, been involved with computer animation and can build computers as well. I thought I ask about the learning curve when it comes to development on PDA's such as mine. With the drop of Android, I flirted with the idea of learning code.
Is Android Linux based?
You guys hear anything about Android getting a port to this phone? I've done the google search and can only find the sprint version of HD2 with Android installed. That does nothing for TMobile customers.
I read up a bit on XDA and they appear legit. My concern is code being used for identity theft. Anyone have bad experiences with XDA and the software that is released here for share? Does the software under go some sort of QA before it's provided for download?
I have no problem with donations, trust is what earns my donations...fair enough, right?
Ultimately, I really like this phone and look forward to further enhancing it...I hear XDA is the place to be!
Thanks guys/gals.

FAQ's and sticky threads are your friend as is google.
Try reading abit, get a feel for the site.. Then ask..

Yes Winmo7 is being ported to the touch HD, though at the moment it's sluggish due to lack of graphical acceleration (and not really something i"m excited by since it doesn't have copy and paste and no multitasking. IMHO it's really more like an iphone/toy meant for none-techy people).
I don't expect an official update/ROM for the HD2 with android to ever be released by htc/tmobile. However, I would be surprised if one wasn't ported by xda from other devices (like nexus/evo 4g).
Yes, android is unix based. (develepment done in java (for upper stuff) and C (for lower stuff)).
Anything you download and install from xda you do so at your own risk. However, I would argue that the risk is minimal (almost none existent) as long as you follow directions and read posts. The only thing that can brick your phone is a failed radio/SPL update/change. Anything else can be cured by a hard reset.
(and what kable said)

As unfriendly as my reply may seem, for a "tech savvy" guy you asked several questions which would have been abundantly answered if you properly used the search tools of the forum, or if you simply browsed through the most active threads

ephestione said:
As unfriendly as my reply may seem, for a "tech savvy" guy you asked several questions which would have been abundantly answered if you properly used the search tools of the forum, or if you simply browsed through the most active threads
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Thick skin...you grouches don't faze me
I've been through the site a bit, what can I say, life outside of the computer caught up and I got a little impatient!
I'm still reading through the forum. Have yet to find an answer to this question.
If I install Android on my HD2 (US), something goes wrong...will I be able to do a hard reset, or reinstall WM6.5?
I really think Android would benefit more out of this hardware. It seems as if everything Unix based always requires less resources and gets the job done!
I also would like to know how I can uninstall these game demos that are eating up space? Will this be a registry edit?
I feel as if Android would FLY on this device. WM6.5 is getting the job done, but it's to late for Microsoft with me. I've used Linux for some time and I just think it's better. Huge supporter of Linux!

Devils1stBorn said:
Thick skin...you grouches don't faze me
I've been through the site a bit, what can I say, life outside of the computer caught up and I got a little impatient!
I'm still reading through the forum. Have yet to find an answer to this question.
If I install Android on my HD2 (US), something goes wrong...will I be able to do a hard reset, or reinstall WM6.5?
I really think Android would benefit more out of this hardware. It seems as if everything Unix based always requires less resources and gets the job done!
I also would like to know how I can uninstall these game demos that are eating up space? Will this be a registry edit?
I feel as if Android would FLY on this device. WM6.5 is getting the job done, but it's to late for Microsoft with me. I've used Linux for some time and I just think it's better. Huge supporter of Linux!
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oh, no grouches intended (and the "I have a life" excuse is old )
There's no way to install Android on the HD2, currently, that's why you couldn't find on these forums how to uninstall it from the hd2
Game demos were not included in my stock rom, if you're using a customized rom from a carrier, then either you find and delete the relevant files, if that's even possible, or you flash a clean custom rom from the rom dev forums which includes onyl the necessary software... but then again, I know all this info because I found it on the forums

ephestione said:
oh, no grouches intended (and the "I have a life" excuse is old )
There's no way to install Android on the HD2, currently, that's why you couldn't find on these forums how to uninstall it from the hd2
Game demos were not included in my stock rom, if you're using a customized rom from a carrier, then either you find and delete the relevant files, if that's even possible, or you flash a clean custom rom from the rom dev forums which includes onyl the necessary software... but then again, I know all this info because I found it on the forums
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Look at you, browsing through forums and stuff. When I grow up, I wanna be just like you.
Thanks for the info. I do have a custom ROM from TMOUS. Has games like guitar hero, prince of persia...more bloated ware. I estimate about 30 mbps of used space.

Devils1stBorn said:
Look at you, browsing through forums and stuff. When I grow up, I wanna be just like you.
Thanks for the info. I do have a custom ROM from TMOUS. Has games like guitar hero, prince of persia...more bloated ware. I estimate about 30 mbps of used space.
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If they allow you to uninstall the games this is how you would go about it:
Go to the settings tab in Sense -> menu(lower right corner) -> all settings -> system -> remove programs.
Now the other option would be to flash your current rom to something faster and less bloated. T-Mobile US Rom Development Forum
I definitely recommend you read the Stickies before going about flashing your phone. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask! Would suck if you brick your new HD2 just because you didn't! This is what these forums are for despite what some members might claim.
As for your other questions yes Android is Unix based and is probably going to be available for the HD2 sometime in the future(don't ask when). There's already a dual boot app so when Android becomes available switching between the two operating systems should be a breeze.
Welcome to the forums and enjoy your new phone!

Hi,
A bit irrrelevant to reply here, but I did not any other place. Have been following this forum for quite sometime. Been around with windows mobile app development for sometime. But what really interest me is when people from this forum tweaks Rom image or port to other harware. Here things look quite easy. Is it really easy? I saw one single person tweaking a ROM image and porting to different hardware?
Hope I have not offended anyone.
- Herojit

Toss3 said:
If they allow you to uninstall the games this is how you would go about it:
Go to the settings tab in Sense -> menu(lower right corner) -> all settings -> system -> remove programs.
Now the other option would be to flash your current rom to something faster and less bloated.
I definitely recommend you read the Stickies before going about flashing your phone. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask! Would suck if you brick your new HD2 just because you didn't! This is what these forums are for despite what some members might claim.
As for your other questions yes Android is Unix based and is probably going to be available for the HD2 sometime in the future(don't ask when). There's already a dual boot app so when Android becomes available switching between the two operating systems should be a breeze.
Welcome to the forums and enjoy your new phone!
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Thanks. And no, it only allows me to uninstall apps I've installed after the initial setup. I've been through system files and the sorts and I can only find icons and other "blah" that's not the actual install directory. I show all the hidden files and still, can't find it.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to Android. Don't need the dual boot. Just a solid port with solid drivers.

Sorry everyone for the irrelevant post again.
I was hoping that someone will reply saying - "porting ROM is not a big deal, this is how you do it"
- Herojit

herojits said:
Sorry everyone for the irrelevant post again.
I was hoping that someone will reply saying - "porting ROM is not a big deal, this is how you do it"
- Herojit
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Say what?
What's with your post?

OP. I'll port Android on HD2 for you for $50. You gotta send me your phone tho.
I am a tek savy guy too. I fix microwaves!

FloatHeavy said:
OP. I'll port Android on HD2 for you for $50. You gotta send me your phone tho.
I am a tek savy guy too. I fix microwaves!
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Epic fail.

one thing that has been alittle pain is how the albums are viewed. i created an album for videos, yet when i view I can't have a name of the file visable, just a thumbnail. that doesn't work well at all. works fine with pictures cuz what you see is what you. videos start with a black screen; becomes a guessing game. am i missing something?

anddroid on HD2. is it Possaoble?

I had my hd2 for 2 months and i love it. But, im getting very disappointed that it's lacking in apps and community support unlike the andriod and iphone os. I see poplur apps that are available for android and iphone but not wm. i am starting to wish i never got the hd2 and really wish i knew about the evo thats coming out soon.
on top of that i see the phone on ebay has really dropped in price to about £270 ($411)
so is it possible to put android on hd2?

Wow
Before you get blasted for making a post and not searching let me give you some advice, Search! There are a LOT of threads about Android on HD2, it's not there yet but it is being worked on. Really, type Android in the search bar and you will see all the threads asking the same thing, good luck

*INSERT GENERIC FLAME HERE*
Your luck i just dont have the energy today

While we are on this topic, is it possible to use my HD2 as a vacuum cleaner?

Nimche said:
While we are on this topic, is it possible to use my HD2 as a vacuum cleaner?
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If you used the search functions (like most people) you would find your answer.
If you did this simple thing you would find that at this time, its not yet possible, HTC have the best group of developers on it but are having some trouble with the porting or something.
I'm just a few days away from being able to use my HD2 as a micro-oven

djchubbs said:
I'm just a few days away from being able to use my HD2 as a micro-oven
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I bet your cooked ROMs will taste delightful!

Off: I succeeded in using my HD2 as a condom yesterday! Took me ages to port every bit of information...
On: Let's assume you haven't read the forum rules, thus you wouldn't know about the built in Search function. There`s Google. Why not Google for something (such as "android on hd2")? After all, it`s much easier to type and to read than typing a long post on a board where you need an account and where you need to wait for others to answer your question...

At least he searched the price of the HD2 on ebay...

i bet you guyz are unfriendly , help him if not *********** ,......,
anyway its still under development and needs some time i can say its 40 % to its full
potential
tc

roycio said:
At least he searched the price of the HD2 on ebay...
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It also really surprised me to see the price of HD2 drop down so quickly. Maybe mostly because not so many people can get on well with HD2, which is the best phone I've ever bought.

Easy on the flaming guys. Im sure he understands now. For all u know, u might just drive someone away from xda with negative thoughts......where as this is one of the most helpful community.

Like yourself I'm a new HD2 owner. I can understand why you might think there's a lack of apps for our device, when devices like the iPhone have 160,000+ apps. However I've found four different GPS nav apps out there (Igo, CoPilot, TomTom and Garmin), an app to make a flashlight out of your camera LEDs, a registry editor, a voice-dialler, a metal detector, a decent file explorer, a media player etc etc etc. The question needs to be asked, how many media players / file explorers / gps apps do you need on your device? For me, one of each is more than enough. Many of the iPhone apps are just double-ups of the same functionality.
After getting my phone I spent the next week on XDA searching for apps, themes, tweaks and games, trying them out and working out what works and what doesnt.
My HD2 is now running and looking mint, and I've got more games than I know what to do with. As the others in this thread have already pointed out, you do need to take the time and use the search function.
As for support, you couldn't be more wrong - it was the emmense wealth of knowledge of XDA-developers that gave me the confidence to buy the HD2. It will take you time to find the info you're looking for in these forums, but the answers are there, and you'll end up with a superior phone to the iPhone if you're prepared to give it a chance.
Drop me an email on [email protected] if you'd like to know where to find the bits you're after.

Not only he did not serch .. but hes speling sux too. !

This is one of the funniest Android response threads that I've read lmao. At least the repsonses were good natured and not hateful like some other threads have been. And I hope the OP didn't get scared away, he should think of it as his initiation. And Im sure a lot of Senior users had at least one noobie moment in the beginning.
When I had my Shadow/Juno and started modding my first post was "where is the windows folder"

chrisrj28 said:
................ And Im sure a lot of Senior users had at least one noobie moment in the beginning.
When I had my Shadow/Juno and started modding my first post was "where is the windows folder"
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i hate to correct you but if you refer to an old question, please provide the answer with it,
thanx

Hi Developers

Hi,
I am newbie on HTC HD2. It seems really good phone. I am happy to have it but I want to add some interesting apps on it to make it mine. I am not talking about wallpapers or screens. I mean other usefull apps . When I search apps section I can not see much. I belive it is new phone so not have much apps. When I read boards peoples says if I make my phone ANDROID ( I do not even know what it means) i will be able to have lots more apps. I am not good on systems so I scare I broke my phone and will not be able to fix it. For windows it is easy . I can go on market and pick what I like and phone automatic install it or I can get cab file from here and instal it. Please tell me if can run android and windows together? Or I better stay away from it? I read on board android is not developed yet and even good htc users having problems. Maybe someone assist me about it?
Regards
Okan

Dude I understand your problem, but seriously there is nothin like rocket science over here..!!!
Unless you develop that is..!!!
Anyways I suggest you search the thread properly you'll find what you need..!!!
I also presume this thread will be closed soon..!!!

okan11 said:
Hi,
I am newbie on HTC HD2. It seems really good phone. I am happy to have it but I want to add some interesting apps on it to make it mine. I am not talking about wallpapers or screens. I mean other usefull apps . When I search apps section I can not see much. I belive it is new phone so not have much apps. When I read boards peoples says if I make my phone ANDROID ( I do not even know what it means) i will be able to have lots more apps. I am not good on systems so I scare I broke my phone and will not be able to fix it. For windows it is easy . I can go on market and pick what I like and phone automatic install it or I can get cab file from here and instal it. Please tell me if can run android and windows together? Or I better stay away from it? I read on board android is not developed yet and even good htc users having problems. Maybe someone assist me about it?
I understand you love your phone! We all do! But this forum was made for Android Development only! And yes you can run Android on your phone and take advantage of all the apps the android market offers!
Regards
Okan
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Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Ok...take a deep breath and think zen. ;-)
First of all, this is not a question you should bother developers with. They are, suprise suprise, busy developing.
Considering your experience with the hd2, my personal advice is to keep WinMo and search the forums for your cabs. You can customize about everything on your WinMo. You just need to invest some time and energy in it.
If you are stubborn like me...read further:
Yes it's possible to run Android and WinMo on your hd2. If you're new to linux/android/hd2 it'll cost you more time and energy to understand it all.
Very Important:
To install Android besides WinMo, please make sure you have read and understood this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, make sure you read and understand this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734335
Please make sure you know what you're doing before you start using Android. It's not that you'll brick your phone, but you'll risk being flamed for asking questions which already have been asked 100 times before.
Good luck and be careful!

Ok I will read more. thanks.

dusdus said:
Ok...take a deep breath and think zen. ;-)
First of all, this is not a question you should bother developers with. They are, suprise suprise, busy developing.
Considering your experience with the hd2, my personal advice is to keep WinMo and search the forums for your cabs. You can customize about everything on your WinMo. You just need to invest some time and energy in it.
If you are stubborn like me...read further:
Yes it's possible to run Android and WinMo on your hd2. If you're new to linux/android/hd2 it'll cost you more time and energy to understand it all.
Very Important:
To install Android besides WinMo, please make sure you have read and understood this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, make sure you read and understand this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734335
Please make sure you know what you're doing before you start using Android. It's not that you'll brick your phone, but you'll risk being flamed for asking questions which already have been asked 100 times before.
Good luck and be careful!
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Thank you for the helpful post!
okan11 said:
Ok I will read more. thanks.
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Please do before you open a new thread!

[Q] Subforums for Sense/Stock builds in the Dev section ?

As it appears people clearly like or dont like HTC Sense, would it be possibly to add these options to the dev forums, its getting really confusing trying to follow/ find anything with the page's updating every second and the random names dev's use to tag there builds

RenZ0R said:
As it appears people clearly like or dont like HTC Sense, would it be possibly to add these options to the dev forums, its getting really confusing trying to follow/ find anything with the page's updating every second and the random names dev's use to tag there builds
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Sorry for my ignorance but do you need someone to hold your hand while crossing the street too?

inny2 said:
Sorry for my ignorance but do you need someone to hold your hand while crossing the street too?
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Nope but obviously someone needs help on learning on how to throw together a witty non valid comment... it's a simple suggestion on cleaning up the forums to make them more user friendly, now, back under your rock troll...

I was going to suggest something similar too.Another thought was to not have so much discriptions on the headings,maybe just the basics of what is there.Then more detailed info when the thread is opened,maybe.I find it pretty confusing the differentiate between some of the builds.
I'm almost changing on a two daily basis my android roms and am very grateful for all the hard work being put into this so keep up the good work and thanks

I have to say its rather easy for me to figure out what type of build it is.
maybe its just me. Usually there is something in the header that tips me off.

RenZ0R said:
Nope but obviously someone needs help on learning on how to throw together a witty non valid comment... it's a simple suggestion on cleaning up the forums to make them more user friendly, now, back under your rock troll...
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I have to say its rather easy for me to figure out what type of build it is.
maybe its just me. Usually there is something in the header that tips me off.
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I hope you see the difference between me (troll) and you. Check the titles, waste some more time to install all the builds and you will find which developer and what build is what with what.
Thank you!

Your correct, Titles tell us everything
[BUILD]Mdeejay FroYo HD v.3.3 beta|1.24.405.1|kernel: hastarin r 7.1
must therefore be a Stock build.... oh wait, its Sense.
I could list various titles for hours with the amount of releases there is on a weekly basis, see what im getting at here ?
The suggestion I made has nothing to do with testing builds, what developer to use, or any other of the random questions about builds that are flooding the forums, its about a creating a simple sub forum so the two variations of releases can be easily distinguished and found by the user looking for it, and probably give a little leeway to the dev's from the constant requests they get to do a alternative build with/without sense, simple organisation allowing less clutter and less load on the xda servers search function.

No need subforums for Sense/Stock, Stock build is dying, in a few days you won't able to find any stock build in the first few pages, there are will be Sense and EVIL Sense...

RenZ0R said:
Your correct, Titles tell us everything
[BUILD]Mdeejay FroYo HD v.3.3 beta|1.24.405.1|kernel: hastarin r 7.1
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Isn't HD in the title as Rom from Desire HD?
Plus most developers if not all put some screen shots at the end of their first post.
And we are talking for how many android roms in total? 10? Thats nothing compared to WM roms and GTX themed or Max-Sense. Needless to say the mess with the builds for 6.5 and 6.5.x builds. As soon as people get acquainted with what they have its fine.

can u suggest me a android rom for my htc leo:hd2

Hello, I m using htc leo:hd2, and its now converted to android, but the problem is about phone is showing my phone is htc bravo android v.2.2.1. Please guide me to find a suitable ROM for my phone... and how can i get it?

There is a Android HD2 NAND development section you know.
try LOOKING there
its not hard you know, looking

try this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25781675#post25781675

I think by now, we are tired of seeing the exact same thread pop up over and over again.. A simple google search of "best android rom" would result in a plethora of hits that would have solved your problem faster than making a new, but redundant thread.. One size does not fit all, and you will have to try out various roms before you find one that you like..

Thanks a lot
adil1508 said:
There is a Android HD2 NAND development section you know.
try LOOKING there
its not hard you know, looking
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Thanks a lot for ur support

trazzaque said:
Thanks a lot for ur support
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Your very welcome
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda app-developers app

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795608
This one has been really good for me.

look for one of the miui roms

Welcome to forums. I'll give you a few brief tips on what I've learned over the last six months about android, hd2, and android.
With a typical nand install, the bootable system is installed on your internal nand, irrespective of your sd-card being present. Some may relate to the following comparison to a microsoft windows based system: your nand is like your internal hard drive "master" that contains your "C:" drive.
Your system folder on your nand has files specific to your device as required for it to boot and run properly. To access the market (google play) as well as have various hardware functionality, there is a file "build.prop" that is a small file with a text list of various descriptors. Being that the hd2 was not shipped with android, some of these descriptors name other devices as opposed to the actual device. In this case the "leo" or hd2 is using a ported version of android from a "bravo" or desire HD. So your system isn't malfunctioning describing another device name, rather, it could be looked at as "masquerading" as another device. I'm certain that is a severe dumbing-down of the technical details, but it's been helpful for some to look at it that way.
As for xda, I hope you spend an enormous time reading and not posting, as I have done all year. I have not posted at all and have literally read damn near every single post in the hd2 section and many more useful posts in other sections. After over six months and countless hours experimenting/flashing/customizing/etc on my own I am beginning to post now, attempting to contribute a bit in the forums that aren't still restricted for me because I feel comfortable enough to begin working towards contributing my input in the developer forums.
Most forums online have a similar attitude towards the plethora of posts like this, which bluntly request a quick answer for what is best determined through spending time reading and researching.
Hopefully you read the above and didn't skip to the end here where I wholeheartedly recommend the xylograph paranoid android ics rom. Cheers, and best of luck getting this amazing phone to fight well.

Amen to that. Nonetheless for starters go soft on your first rom get the CM7 of tyween. It's light and works well. But it's your choice. Indeed, look at me, just joined yesterday spent also almost six months reading the posts and relevant dev threads. Why am I posting, need it now to be able to complete my ten......

I can say for myself only. By my opinion, AOKP has best combination of settings and tweaks which really make life easier. Battery life and speed of this rom are very very good. But unfortunately this rom was not very stable for me, I experienced hot reboots regularly.
So I switched back to NexusHD2. It has comparable battery life and speed, but less tweaking possibilities. Stability of this rom has always been out of question for me. It is solid rock.
TyphooN CyanogenMod ROM was my first rom on HD2 and I have only positive impressions of it. Switched to ICS just because this phone let me do that. Prefer newer versions when possible.