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48 Hours of Battery Life on Epic 4G

I got 48 hours of battery life this past weekend (2 full days) after reworking my phone on Friday. I actually got 24 hours of battery life one day, when I first flashed the phone a couple of weeks ago, with Light / Moderate use. I am running the Bonsai4All ROM. I had been running it previously but had flashed back to stock due to an issue with Wifi, that I thought might be related to this ROM. After further research I found the Wifi issue was NOT related so I decided, since I liked Bonzai so well, to re-flash and keep it.
Here's what I did:
* From Odin I flashed to the stock ROM.
* I flashed to DK28 via Odin.
* I loaded Bonzai4All_Leafless.zip, ext4-format_njournal.zip and kernel-EXT4-RFS-Bonzai.zip files to my sdcard.
* I rooted my phone using the OneClickRootCWM3.zip.
* Restarted my phone in Recovery Mode to update CWM to ext4.
* Flashed Bonzai ROM and started phone.
* Installed my apps.
* Restarted my phone in Recovery Mode and ran Reboot Recovery to get to CW 2.5
* Flashed ext4-format.
* Flashed Bonzai4All.
* Flashed Kernel-EXT4
* Restarted phone.
At this point I had a clean install and all apps re-installed via Google. Then I turned the phone off and fully charged my battery. I Bump-charged the battery 6 times (6X) to get a full charge (something I found in another post). Before I turned the phone on I booted into Recovery and Wiped the Battery Stats. I restarted the phone and followed these steps (also something I had found in another post in the forums regarding battery life).
* Turned off bluetooth when not in use.
* Turned off GPS when I didn't need it.
* Turned screen brightness to automatic
* Turned off 4G receiver since I was out of 4G coverage area this weekend.
* Turned off synchronization. Only enabled it throughout the day to sync.
* Left Wifi on as much as possible since I was in an area with wifi all the time.
* Toggled Airplane mode after I rebooted the phone. (the post stated it was a "stupid bug")
* Killed the OmaDrmConfigService process via Settings > Applications > Running Services.
The phone was used lightly over the weekend. I used Bluetooth when making calls and only syncing about four times a day. I also did a few text messages. I fully charged my phone yesterday and am using it more to see what the battery life is with Moderate use. At this point it has been unplugged for 20 hours and still has 64 percent charge.
I took pictures via Shoot Me every 12 hours. These pictures are real, they have not been tampered with. Don't know what anyone elses results have been but here are mine.

Ehh..With light to moderate use thats not too impressive; btw..the "bump" charging isn't good for your battery. Theres a reason why it doesn't fully charge; because it's not good for the health of the battery.
Sorry to burst your bubble man ^-^ I've gotten 36hrs on moderate/heavy usage.

OP, Did you change your Wi-Fi advanced settings to "never sleep"?

XtaC318 said:
Ehh..With light to moderate use thats not too impressive; btw..the "bump" charging isn't good for your battery. Theres a reason why it doesn't fully charge; because it's not good for the health of the battery.
Sorry to burst your bubble man ^-^ I've gotten 36hrs on moderate/heavy usage.
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That's why I posted this...wanted to know what others were getting from the battery. I'm aware of the bump charge issue and this is a one-time thing for me...don't have money to replace it...hehe.
What are you doing to get 36 hrs?
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rocket321 said:
OP, Did you change your Wi-Fi advanced settings to "never sleep"?
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Yes, my wifi is set to "never sleep"
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gaaspul said:
That's why I posted this...wanted to know what others were getting from the battery. I'm aware of the bump charge issue and this is a one-time thing for me...don't have money to replace it...hehe.
What are you doing to get 36 hrs?
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Everyone should just get an extended battery and not worry about battery life anymore. I run everything at their optimal settings and the phone lasts forever anyway. Brightness at max all the time, no juicedefender or any of that nonsense. Its awesome. You can leave GPS on contantly. Who cares, you got plenty of battery. And if you absolutely need the battery to last you can just tone down some things and make it last for days. Longest I have gone is:
but I hate running my phone like that.

muyoso said:
Everyone should just get an extended battery and not worry about battery life.
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Where did you get yours? I've been looking online but don't want to ge burned.
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gaaspul said:
Where did you get yours? I've been looking online but don't want to ge burned.
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I bought the 3500mah one from ebay. They go for like 12 dollars now. They are not actually 3500mah, but they certainly give a giant boost over stock. They are probably around 2600-3000mah realistically. I have a review in the accessories section. The name brand batteries might be better, but no one has done a objective test comparing them yet and for the price its hard to beat the generic ones from China. People are very satisfied with the Yoobao 2800 mah batteries as well, and those go for around 20ish dollars shipped on ebay. Both are the same thickness and add a little bulk to the phone but you get used to it almost immediately.

gaaspul said:
Where did you get yours? I've been looking online but don't want to ge burned.
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google this: Seidio Innocell. they have a 3300 mAH battery and i believe they might have a 3500 mAH one as well. so far ive seen nothing but the best reviews for this brand on newegg, amazon, as well as anroid central. theyre a bit pricey, but im not going to let that stop me from using my phone fully without fear of being too far from an outlet

Save your money and buy the generics. All battery manufacturers blatantly lie about their mah ratings, Seidio included. The only mah ratings that are genuine are from OEM batteries. That Seidio 3300 mah will really be around 2700mah. The criminals even have the balls to charge 6 dollars extra for the cheapest shipping after making you pay $75 for the battery. Buy the 12 dollar generic 3500mah on ebay which at a minimum will get you 2400mah real life or go for the 2800mah Yoobao which will probably get you around the same for $20ish. The generics blatantly lie on their ratings while manufacturers like Seidio and Mugen cheat on their ratings. Either way, you don't get the battery you paid for and at least with the generics you pay 7 times less.
www.batteryboss.org

I have no idea how long my battery lasts and frankly don't care as I have 4 of them. Just for the record the OP's method of installing Bonsai! is a waste of time IMHO.

Wow guys...
OP I just wanted to say thanks for posting the steps you took.. Not everyone is going to agree on the best way to do things. but it is good to see all the different options and opinions..

muyoso said:
Everyone should just get an extended battery and not worry about battery life anymore. I run everything at their optimal settings and the phone lasts forever anyway. Brightness at max all the time, no juicedefender or any of that nonsense. Its awesome. You can leave GPS on contantly. Who cares, you got plenty of battery. And if you absolutely need the battery to last you can just tone down some things and make it last for days. Longest I have gone is:
but I hate running my phone like that.
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I have had similar luck... But I usually just run the phone all out anyway... Listening to pandora now just because I'm sick of my normal collection... I have another battery I can throw in when this one dies today... And rest assured it will
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snowmanwithahat said:
I have had similar luck... But I usually just run the phone all out anyway... Listening to pandora now just because I'm sick of my normal collection... I have another battery I can throw in when this one dies today... And rest assured it will
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Same. I can't wait until the 2.2 source is leaked. Gonna have my phone overclocked and set for Performance in SetCPU, screen brightness on high, etc, while still having enough battery for a day.

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Just for the record the OP's method of installing Bonsai! is a waste of time IMHO.
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Top Nurse: This was done before they released the new version.
muyoso: I ordered a two-pack generic 3500mAh with charger last night ($26). Again, I had been looking at them but wanted to hear from someone who had used them. In regards to your last reply, I also had my phone overclocked and set for Performance in SetCPU, screen brightness on high, etc, the first time I flashed Bonzai...got 6 and a half hours of battery life and only made ONE phone call...LOL! I've had almost 30 hours of battery life with moderate / heavy use after I posted the original thread, so I've been pretty happy. I'm looking forward to the extended battery.
Thanks to all for the input.

muyoso said:
Save your money and buy the generics. All battery manufacturers blatantly lie about their mah ratings, Seidio included. The only mah ratings that are genuine are from OEM batteries. That Seidio 3300 mah will really be around 2700mah. The criminals even have the balls to charge 6 dollars extra for the cheapest shipping after making you pay $75 for the battery. Buy the 12 dollar generic 3500mah on ebay which at a minimum will get you 2400mah real life or go for the 2800mah Yoobao which will probably get you around the same for $20ish. The generics blatantly lie on their ratings while manufacturers like Seidio and Mugen cheat on their ratings. Either way, you don't get the battery you paid for and at least with the generics you pay 7 times less.
www.batteryboss.org
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I didn't know that to be honest. I was given the impression that a lot of the generic brands seem to have a shorter life even with comparable mAH ratings. I also read amazing reviews for this specific brand even on here. I'm not a fan-boy or anything, but I've been trying to find a decent extended battery for my epic as well. However, I cant go out and spend my hard earned moneys without doing some research and so far ive read that this is one of the top brands. But now after reading your post im not so sure about what to do :/

Skrewup5 said:
I didn't know that to be honest. I was given the impression that a lot of the generic brands seem to have a shorter life even with comparable mAH ratings. I also read amazing reviews for this specific brand even on here. I'm not a fan-boy or anything, but I've been trying to find a decent extended battery for my epic as well. However, I cant go out and spend my hard earned moneys without doing some research and so far ive read that this is one of the top brands. But now after reading your post im not so sure about what to do :/
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The reasons to buy the Seidio is that you know you are going to get a perfectly functioning battery and that the battery might last longer than generics.
The reason to buy generics are that they are cheap as hell, but you may get a dud apparently, according to a couple people in my accessories thread, and might have to exchange it with the seller.
Either way, no battery other than an OEM battery will be at the rated capacity. I dont know how they are able to claim mah ratings that their batteries simply cannot reach. I mean, I know how the generics can do it, they are based in China and they can claim anything they want without retribution.
I recommend saving your money and getting a generic or even a Yoobao branded battery, because even if it does lose the ability to hold capacity 50% sooner than the Seidio would, you can just buy another 5 and still have paid less money than the name brand one.

I got 38 hours earlier with 3 hours and 42 minutes before i decided to plug it in at 9 percent
I'm on stock dk28
I don't have 3g on because in my house I'm by wifi, outside I'm blanketed in 4g and I noticed that since I took 3g off, my cell standby doesn't even show up in the battery percentage usage so I'm guessing that added to my battery life lol
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gaaspul said:
* Turned screen brightness to automatic
* Turned off 4G receiver since I was out of 4G coverage area this weekend.
* Turned off synchronization. Only enabled it throughout the day to sync.
* Left Wifi on as much as possible since I was in an area with wifi all the time.
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These 4 are probably the biggest drivers. I've gotten nearly 36 hours out of the phone before with light use.
The constantly waking to sync is a large drain in Android.
Also, I notice the WiFi radio in this phone practically sips power. The 3G radio, on the other hand, tanks the phone like no other, moreso than other phones (and all the reviews seem to confirm this by the talk time comparisons).
That and using the display in auto brightness. The display sucks down quite a bit, despite Samsung's claims to its power efficiency.

jnadke said:
These 4 are probably the biggest drivers. I've gotten nearly 36 hours out of the phone before with light use.
The constantly waking to sync is a large drain in Android.
Also, I notice the WiFi radio in this phone practically sips power. The 3G radio, on the other hand, tanks the phone like no other, moreso than other phones (and all the reviews seem to confirm this by the talk time comparisons).
That and using the display in auto brightness. The display sucks down quite a bit, despite Samsung's claims to its power efficiency.
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See my post above
I got those results with the brightness set to manual (usually I have it at 50-70ish%, putting it up to 100 when watching videos and viewing pics) and the auto sync on
I think it has to do with certain kernals and stuff? Idk but I don't think its worth gimping th features that make it a "smartphone"...
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Has anyone tried buying a non official battery for their MS2 and care to comment or recommend any? Im going on holiday to france and i know my phone wont last a whole day without charging, so I was thinking of buying a second battery.

I read in another forum that using a non-Motorola battery displays some kind of warning. I'd go with an original battery.

jambo89liam said:
Has anyone tried buying a non official battery for their MS2 and care to comment or recommend any? Im going on holiday to france and i know my phone wont last a whole day without charging, so I was thinking of buying a second battery.
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using a non-original battery could have detrimental effects on your phone. there was a discussion on this on the forum of another phone. using a non-original battery could lead to leaks and other problems which would eventually lead to the warranty of your phone being voided.
stick with original motorola products. yes the battery might be very underpowered, but its the safest bet to ensure the longevity of ur phone

With a non original battery, the battery indicator of your phone shows a interrogation symbol. Also, it does not charge with the phone charger.
Sorry my analphabet english xD
@Motorola Milestone 2

bp7x 2300mAh battery

I 'm using a non-original battery . The MOMAX and everything's good ,it feels just like the original one except for battery tempperature sensor. the temp is always 26 in celsius

I personally have used seidio for my milestone and it works like a charm, its the extended 2800mah one it really performs like it should and not like how a lot of people claim thats its way less than stock! It does not always read it correctly but a quick reboot fixes that, like 50% after reboot would usually be about 70-80%. They way i used to use my phone (light to moderate level) would last about 2-3 days but after the extended I got twice that and some more. Just make sure you get stuff from the original manufactures either way and don't go for deals at amazon or whatnot as those guys might be selling either defected or not proprely stored stuff. Batteries are critical components don't go cheap on them! And no, my phone has not been messed up or had any leaks or anything and I have this for about 3-4 months now. The original battery degraded in about 6months if you have to compare.

That sounds promising, does the battery need to be charged with an external charger? And does the milestone complain that you are not using the official bettery
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metalron said:
I personally have used seidio for my milestone and it works like a charm, its the extended 2800mah one it really performs like it should and not like how a lot of people claim thats its way less than stock! It does not always read it correctly but a quick reboot fixes that, like 50% after reboot would usually be about 70-80%. They way i used to use my phone (light to moderate level) would last about 2-3 days but after the extended I got twice that and some more. Just make sure you get stuff from the original manufactures either way and don't go for deals at amazon or whatnot as those guys might be selling either defected or not proprely stored stuff. Batteries are critical components don't go cheap on them! And no, my phone has not been messed up or had any leaks or anything and I have this for about 3-4 months now. The original battery degraded in about 6months if you have to compare.
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reebooting your phone to get the exact picture also works on the standard battery. my question is, does the back part which houses the battery heat up when used? does the phone get hot during charging? do you need a new battery cover for it? and besides the longer usability, have you noticed any other performance issues on the phone?

agent008my said:
reebooting your phone to get the exact picture also works on the standard battery. my question is, does the back part which houses the battery heat up when used? does the phone get hot during charging? do you need a new battery cover for it? and besides the longer usability, have you noticed any other performance issues on the phone?
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Actually the rebooting to get the exact picture is not the same here, a jump to 20-30% on a stock battery? I don't think so. No I never encountered any odd behavior with the other battery. No getting extra hot during charge or use, get the typical little bit of heat while using 3G and browsing like mad but that would happen on the stock battery too. Battery cover for a 2800? of course, that stuff is huge! its protrudes like mad! a quick heads up though, the extended battery for the milestone 1 and 2 can use the same extended batteries. Don't know about the droid x though. Anyways, no performance issues, no heat while charging. The back covers supplied by these after market guys are not the best quality though so if you are someone who loves dropping phones and what not would recommed getting a spare back cover from the guys you get the batts from.
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That sounds promising, does the battery need to be charged with an external charger? And does the milestone complain that you are not using the official bettery
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No, I use my original charger and no complains or warnings by the phone. Not on the milestone 1 at least. In fact some times i use my ipod's adapter so no big issue. And it charges at the same pace as the stock, additional 1 hour or whatever. restart the phone to getting a proper reading as it shows 100% but upon restart its 70-80% since only the stock level is charged. I hear this app called battery left does great for calibration.

ALSO a thing to note, I only know of Seidio and Mugen to be relialbe after market battery guys hence their hefty pricing at times. The others claiming to have bigger batteries have cheated people with stickers and what not and usually end up underperforming and degrading considerably faster than burning paper! I remember 1USD batteries for nokias back in the day good for a quick one time run i suppose but these 1USD guys are now selling them with a better branding for like 20-40 USD.
Anyways Sedio and Mugen have facebook profiles and keep people posted on the latest on devices usually there, although its kind of sad since seidio have not followed through promised products at times.

metalron said:
Actually the rebooting to get the exact picture is not the same here, a jump to 20-30% on a stock battery? I don't think so. No I never encountered any odd behavior with the other battery. No getting extra hot during charge or use, get the typical little bit of heat while using 3G and browsing like mad but that would happen on the stock battery too. Battery cover for a 2800? of course, that stuff is huge! its protrudes like mad! a quick heads up though, the extended battery for the milestone 1 and 2 can use the same extended batteries. Don't know about the droid x though. Anyways, no performance issues, no heat while charging. The back covers supplied by these after market guys are not the best quality though so if you are someone who loves dropping phones and what not would recommed getting a spare back cover from the guys you get the batts from.
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thanks for the info mate. ill do a lil more research and probably check it out myself.

Thanks for the info i have bought a Seidio Innocell Extended Life for Motorola milestone 2 from mobilefun £30.49 its the 1500mah version same size as original battery so no extra cover is required.
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jambo89liam said:
Thanks for the info i have bought a Seidio Innocell Extended Life for Motorola milestone 2 from mobilefun £30.49 its the 1500mah version same size as original battery so no extra cover is required.
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Cool but as I suggested try and get them off the manufactures themselves as I have noticed some people complaining when purchased via 3rd party retailers.
Also another bud of mine had picked up one for the Nexus one, that phones back cover is a full one unlike the moto's and he too can vouch for the products positive performance. Either ways also check out some reviews from amazon.com for peace of mind.

http://yfrog.com/gz1yj2j
http://yfrog.com/h8n307j
Got my battery today looks official, I will charge it over night and test it tomorrow will let you know if it goes well.
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cmxyz said:
I 'm using a non-original battery . The MOMAX and everything's good ,it feels just like the original one except for battery tempperature sensor. the temp is always 26 in celsius
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can yo still charge it though because i bought the aninda battery and i could only charge it with an external battery charger

jambo89liam said:
http://yfrog.com/gz1yj2j
http://yfrog.com/h8n307j
Got my battery today looks official, I will charge it over night and test it tomorrow will let you know if it goes well.
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is the battery meter being shown or are you getting an error message because i would like to buy one

No complaints from the phone about it being the incorrect battery the battery has been charged within/by the phone no external charger required. I got the 1500mah version from mobilefun I doubt it will give much more performance but will see.
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After my first day of use I got around 11 hours of use before reaching 5%. Here are the usage statistics at 15%
https://picasaweb.google.com/105351366297036719015/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCJna6ZH6hLKxzQE
Wifi was on most of the time, I was using my phone for the usual things. Occasionally checking socialfeeds, engadget, xda every hour or so and internet browsing I played 10 minutes of angry bids. Updated some apps and downloaded a few new ones.
Overall not a significant increase in battery life maybe an hour or so more from what I am used to.
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Nexus 4 Dead and Unresponsive

After the whole Google Play fiasco, I decided to pick up the Nexus 4 from a local T-Mobile store. The phone worked great for 3 days, but is now completely dead. The last thing I did was launch the AnTuTu benchmark app. As soon as I started the benchmark, the phone crashed and was unresponsive. The phone looks like it is off now. I called Google support and they suggested all of the normal things (i.e. hard reset by holding the volume and power buttons). Life only seems to exist when I connect the charger which causes the LED to flash a red/orange color very quickly (reminds me of the Xbox 360 RROD).
Not only was Google unable to assist me, but all of the T-Mobile stores in my area are now out of stock. T-Mobile is going to try to hunt one down for me at another store and have it shipped which I am grateful for, but it still sucks going through the ringer for a brand new flagship Nexus 4. And because my old rooted MT4G doesn't use a micro SIM, I can't swap in the new one. Looks like another trip to T-Mobile is in my future.
I watched several other Nexus 4 owners run the AnTuTu benchmark on YouTube without any issues. Is this a sign of LG reliability or am I just unlucky?

Removable battery
It sure would be nice to have a removable battery right now... The screws on the bottom of the Nexus 4 look very similar to the ones used on the HDD in a MacBook. Definitely not a tool most of us have laying around the house.

Swazi Samurai said:
It sure would be nice to have a removable battery right now... The screws on the bottom of the Nexus 4 look very similar to the ones used on the HDD in a MacBook. Definitely not a tool most of us have laying around the house.
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They're actually just standard torx screws.

light flashes when plugged in? Keep it plugged in for a few hours there hau5.
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That sucks, man.
At least T-Mobile is willing to track down a phone and have it shipped in a timely fashion, unlike certain other retailers selling the phone... like, say, Google...

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light flashes when plugged in? Keep it plugged in for a few hours there hau5.
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Yeah, It could be something as simple as the battery die-ing while benchmarking.....

You can buy an adaptor to fit microsims into regular sim slots. Mayne worth looking into if there's no replacement on the horizon.

Jasonator said:
Yeah, It could be something as simple as the battery die-ing while benchmarking.....
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The battery was at 93% prior to the benchmark. I've been watching it like a hawk since day one.
On a side note, I've only been getting about 12 hours on a full charge with LIGHT usage which doesn't last me through a day at the office with commute. This is with auto brightness and WiFi turned on, but not connected. I've noticed the phone drops about 5-7% every hour without any user activity. The OS is reporting that the screen uses about 50% of the battery. I can't wait until they release the wireless charger, it will be getting a lot of use.

On average 2% of electronics are DOA or die within a month. That is basicly exactly where warranties come from. 1.2% for smart phones. It is 1 phone in 100. So don't be that surprised, but still bad luck.
Thanks for taking 1 for the team! lol

I wonder if this could've been avoided if broken in normally instead of bringing it to the extremes such as heat with useless misleading benchmarks.

mi7chy said:
I wonder if this could've been avoided if broken in normally instead of bringing it to the extremes such as heat with useless misleading benchmarks.
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A benchmark is comparable to playing a modern 3D game. If the phone cannot handle that amount of heat generation there is a problem with its design (or just a bad unit).

Swazi Samurai said:
I can't wait until they release the wireless charger, it will be getting a lot of use.
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Theres already a few that will work, LG even have one LG WCP-700

mi7chy said:
I wonder if this could've been avoided if broken in normally instead of bringing it to the extremes such as heat with useless misleading benchmarks.
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The benchmark never even started. The phone literally crashed when I hit the "start benchmark" button. This was only the second benchmark I even attempted. Neocore said my device was incompatible and Linpack force closed several times upon launch so I uninstalled it. I only ran one full benchmark with Quadrant before attempting AnTuTu.
I agree that benchmarks are misleading, this is the fastest/smoothest phone I have ever used. GSIII users can brag about their benchmarks all they want, the Nexus 4 runs circles around it in real world usage and feel. I can't stress how great the phone is. I just wish I wasn't staring at a black piece of glass.

I have to give major props to T-Mobile for overnight shipping a brand new Nexus 4 on a Saturday/Sunday. Picked up the phone today and everything is running smooth. I don't think I will be running AnTuTu anytime soon... I LOVE this phone!

Swazi Samurai said:
I have to give major props to T-Mobile for overnight shipping a brand new Nexus 4 on a Saturday/Sunday. Picked up the phone today and everything is running smooth. I don't think I will be running AnTuTu anytime soon... I LOVE this phone!
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Glad you had your phone replaced. Just wanted to users here about something I noticed yesterday.
Long pressing of the power button (about 7 seconds) in the Nexus 4 will force-shutdown the phone, equals a "battery pull".

I've used my nexus 4 16GB for 2 days and then it shut down on me and could never turn it on again. I've left it charged for a couple of hours, It blinks red led when plug to charge, and I tried the power + volume down combo but nothing works. HELP!
I've shipped the phone to Cambodia all the way from the States, sending it back and forth would cost me half the phone. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

same ****..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050811&highlight=bricked+

Thanks. I'll jump to that thread straight away
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Still no help. I've left it charged again today for 7 hours, it was quite hot, still blinking red but could not turn it on.
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Swazi Samurai said:
After the whole Google Play fiasco, I decided to pick up the Nexus 4 from a local T-Mobile store. The phone worked great for 3 days, but is now completely dead. The last thing I did was launch the AnTuTu benchmark app. As soon as I started the benchmark, the phone crashed and was unresponsive. The phone looks like it is off now. I called Google support and they suggested all of the normal things (i.e. hard reset by holding the volume and power buttons). Life only seems to exist when I connect the charger which causes the LED to flash a red/orange color very quickly (reminds me of the Xbox 360 RROD).
Not only was Google unable to assist me, but all of the T-Mobile stores in my area are now out of stock. T-Mobile is going to try to hunt one down for me at another store and have it shipped which I am grateful for, but it still sucks going through the ringer for a brand new flagship Nexus 4. And because my old rooted MT4G doesn't use a micro SIM, I can't swap in the new one. Looks like another trip to T-Mobile is in my future.
I watched several other Nexus 4 owners run the AnTuTu benchmark on YouTube without any issues. Is this a sign of LG reliability or am I just unlucky?
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hey bro, i having the same issue with you.
it dead suddenly when i run antutu. I can't boot the phone with power button. I can only boot with the charger. But when i boot in the system, the battery stat is only 1%!
are you having the same issue? so how's you fix it?

[Q] Nexus 4 on order, arrival soon, what can I expect ;) ?

So, they have apparently sorted out the stock and supply problem. I <cough> borrowed the wife's credit card and have placed the order.
They say it will ship in 1 to 2 weeks, I can live with that.
The light-hearted question I have is, once I've gotten over the excited rush of playing with the phone for a while, what have your experiences been? Good or bad! I've heard that the battery life is not great but to be honest I am not so bothered with that. I have a charger and work, and home, in the car - I can even charge it at the pub/bar I go to

Keep an eye out for issues worthy of an RMA. From there, the only thing to expect is awesomeness. You'll want to calibrate the screen color and gamma, though.

Has battery life been that bad? Because I just ordered one myself to replace my wife's 3GS.

kenhicg said:
Has battery life been that bad? Because I just ordered one myself to replace my wife's 3GS.
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yes battery life is very bad on this device. in sleep/standby its great. but when you do something, it drains battery very fast. just 5minutes use and at least 10% are gone.

Rondock said:
yes battery life is very bad on this device. in sleep/standby its great. but when you do something, it drains battery very fast. just 5minutes use and at least 10% are gone.
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Utter tripe. You either have a rouge app, or you have the brighness turned up full or something else stupid.
I easily get a full day out mine with moderate use. It's about 50%-60% remaining when I get home in the evening from work.

I got around 3 hours of screen on time and a full 18-20 hours standby on stock rom with the usual useage of whatsapp and gmail syncing, with web use and texting etc, and now on custom rom, I am getting up to 4.5 hours screen on.
So, battery is good, phone is super fast and smooth, camera is great if you take time to learn how to use it and especially with HDR on and a bit of post picture editing. Only down side is music volume and quality which is average at best. In my opinion.

Thanks for the feedback. I just hope my wife can make the transition from iOS to android.

I think depending whether you are on WiFi or HSPA will make a huge difference for battery. From what I understand, when using HSPA, the standby battery life is horrible.

The screen is usually the single biggest threat to your battery. And the N4 can get 4-6 hours of "screen on" time depending on use. As others have said, it can be on standby for 15+ hours, but you can completely kill the battery in 4 hours or less if you are using a cpu intensive app.
Custom roms and battery saving apps can def help out though.

I ordered mine at 3pm on wednesday and it was with me by 3pm on thursday .. so slightly quicker than the 1-2 weeks they quote!

Unlock the boot loader, doesn't matter if you decide on staying stock or what. Having your boot loader unlocked right of the bat allows you to keep your apps if you do decide to root /flash.
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You'll sadly probably find that the screen is *uneven* in it's tint (yellow probably) and brightness. Because it's uneven, "calibrating" will help a little maybe but will not fix any issues with the screen. On the other hand, with luck (which I wish you) you may find that your screen is pretty much perfectly uniform in brightness and tone top to bottom, left to right. (Check using the Mail app and minimise the keyboard) I've had 5 so far and none of them are acceptable to me. Otherwise the phone is truly incredible in use. Buttery smooth, responsive, great. The screen very generally is amazing too. It's just not even as it should be. Let me know how yours is - i'd be interested to know because if yours has good uniformity I'll order another. Good luck!

Rondock said:
yes battery life is very bad on this device. in sleep/standby its great. but when you do something, it drains battery very fast. just 5minutes use and at least 10% are gone.
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My drain is 1% per hour and I get more the 4hs screen time. Please, review your device and stop giving false statements.
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How much do you believe turning off the data and just running the voice will save battery life?
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My drain is 1% per hour and I get more the 4hs screen time. Please, review your device and stop giving false statements.
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fredcorp6 said:
I ordered mine at 3pm on wednesday and it was with me by 3pm on thursday .. so slightly quicker than the 1-2 weeks they quote!
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What? No way lol you must be lucky then. Because even the shipping method says 2 day shipping. Unless you paid a bunch of money for overnight shipping?
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What? No way lol you must be lucky then. Because even the shipping method says 2 day shipping. Unless you paid a bunch of money for overnight shipping?
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Played £9.99 for shipping... Think that was the only option on there?
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bittersound said:
So, they have apparently sorted out the stock and supply problem. I <cough> borrowed the wife's credit card and have placed the order.
They say it will ship in 1 to 2 weeks, I can live with that.
The light-hearted question I have is, once I've gotten over the excited rush of playing with the phone for a while, what have your experiences been? Good or bad! I've heard that the battery life is not great but to be honest I am not so bothered with that. I have a charger and work, and home, in the car - I can even charge it at the pub/bar I go to
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Well expect battery drain issues (msm_hsic_host wakelock).

Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue?

Hey all,
I'd like to get a better view on how much 6p's are affected by this issue. I really have no clue what % we're talking about. So.. Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue? If not, could you tell us when you've bought your phone and, if you have accubattery installed, the capacity (health) of your battery?
Thanks in advance!

Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.

Lulzmaster said:
Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.

swa100 said:
Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.
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It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .

Lulzmaster said:
It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .
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Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.

I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.

I got my phone mid February (Best Buy) last year and do not have the problem. Accubattery shows my battery health at 93% (3220mah). But I also protect my battery as much as possible with when to charge and never let my phone stay plugged in when topped off either.

Never had early shutdown. Had my 6p for a few months. Accubattery shows 99%.
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murphyjasonc said:
I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.
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Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.

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Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.
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Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.

murphyjasonc said:
Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.
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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?

Never had early shutdown, and have had my 6P since launch.... Mostly custom AOSP roms....

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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?
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I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.

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:good::good:We have two in our family and neither one is affected. One was purchased Late 2015 and another early 2016. Both show over 95% capacity in Accubattery (mine is 97%) and I can run the battery down to 1%. Both are stock 7.1.1 one is unlocked and rooted, and the other has never been unlocked. Although I could not vote for each phone, it will be interesting to check poll results a few months down the road.

swa100 said:
Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.
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Google's official position is that the early shutdown problem and boot loop of death are both hardware issues. People are experiencing both problems on stock Marshmallow and Nougat as well as on custom ROMs.

murphyjasonc said:
I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.
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Guess I'm making a call tomorrow then. Hope this straightens things up. Thanks!

Just as an update, I got my RMA last week and it has behaved flawlessly since. Accubattery is actually reporting 101% battery health, and It's taking a little getting used to having a phone that the battery doesn't die in two hours.

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Lulzmaster said:
Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932

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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932
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I haven't had an issue since I got my RMAd device, so yeah. I even have all the same apps installed and everything and I'm still getting ten hours of mixed usage. Performance is getting a little pokey but the phone is coming up two years old soooooooooooo I'm not surprised.
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