Is there a way to get the MT4G to work with Rogers 3G (HSPA/HSPA+) in Canada? I bought a paygo sim and am only seeing edge. I think that maybe the MT4G doesn't support the correct bands but I'm not sure. If anyone could enlighten me I'd be very appreciative.
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contractcooker said:
Is there a way to get the MT4G to work with Rogers 3G (HSPA/HSPA+) in Canada? I bought a paygo sim and am only seeing edge. I think that maybe the MT4G doesn't support the correct bands but I'm not sure. If anyone could enlighten me I'd be very appreciative.
thanks
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It wont work because it doesnt support 3G on the 850/1900 bands. It should work on Wind Mobile rho because they both operate on the AWS bands.
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Master_sk3 said:
It wont work because it doesnt support 3G on the 850/1900 bands. It should work on Wind Mobile rho because they both operate on the AWS bands.
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Aw shucks.... it really sucks that 3G isn't more standardized..... hopefully the world will move toward a more homogenized system so that roaming between countries isn't such a hassle. Thanks for the info Master.
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Hey, When you say that it won't work with 3G but it will with edge do you mean just the data? Will it still work for making phone calls?
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Given the poor 3G coverage on T-Mobile in the US, why would two powerful phones such as the Nexus One and HD2 be relegated there? It is as if they are sabotoging themselves by being on T-Mob. (This paragraph was rhetorical).
My X1i is on it's last leg (screen blank in landscape and microphone not working) and I want to replace it. Currently, HD2 is the only thing that is appealing. I think I am going to hack one of the overseas models to work on 850MHz 3G on AT&T and forego waiting for the T-Mob model. Thanks XDA.
Hopefully, someone will make a step-by-step sticky on how to get the HD2 working on AT&T 3G USA.
1. Hard-SPL
2. Flash custom ROM
3. Insert SIM
That's what I did to get it working on Telus' 850mhz 3G. I remember the dude who made the huge thread about being the first in the US with a T9193 saying it was similarly easy.
If you just put your AT&T SIM in, you'll be able to send/receive texts, and make calls, but Telstra has the data connection settings locked down pretty heavily in the stock ROM...
OK, yeah, I was just looking through some of that thread. I thought it said something about changing or not changing radios. Is this already taken care of inside the custom ROMs ?
WhyBe said:
OK, yeah, I was just looking through some of that thread. I thought it said something about changing or not changing radios. Is this already taken care of inside the custom ROMs ?
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As far as I know you don't need to change the radio.
I didn't have to.
Great, thanks.
What type of price did you get? I see them from less than $700 to more than $900.
WhyBe said:
Given the poor 3G coverage on T-Mobile in the US, why would two powerful phones such as the Nexus One and HD2 be relegated there? It is as if they are sabotoging themselves by being on T-Mob. (This paragraph was rhetorical).
My X1i is on it's last leg (screen blank in landscape and microphone not working) and I want to replace it. Currently, HD2 is the only thing that is appealing. I think I am going to hack one of the overseas models to work on 850MHz 3G on AT&T and forego waiting for the T-Mob model. Thanks XDA.
Hopefully, someone will make a step-by-step sticky on how to get the HD2 working on AT&T 3G USA.
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if your device doesnot 850 mhz you will not be able to use 3g in usa it is hardware not software
hoss_n2 said:
if your device doesnot 850 mhz you will not be able to use 3g in usa it is hardware not software
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Thanks, however, that wasn't the question. It was already answered above.
Thanks all
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if your device doesnot 850 mhz you will not be able to use 3g in usa it is hardware not software
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Thanks, however, that wasn't the question. It was already answered above.
Thanks all
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You need to make sure that the HD2 you buy has HSPA/WCDMA 850 MHz (not just GSM 850 MHz), because most do not.
harolds said:
You need to make sure that the HD2 you buy has HSPA/WCDMA 850 MHz (not just GSM 850 MHz), because most do not.
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Yes, based on what I am reading, getting the Telstra model with 850MHz 3G band should be compatible with 850MHz 3G AT&T in the U.S.
The designated-"U.S." model is designed for T-Mobile 3G (1700MHz or 2100MHz)
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(1700MHz AND 2100MHz)
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I fixed that for you -- phones won't work on T-Mobile 3G without BOTH 1700 and 2100.
is possible? will it have the full extend to the network coverage?
No, 3g internet will not work.
not even with custom roms or something?
this is the version Telstra Next G model(850/2100Mhz)
tmobile has this weird 1700 AWS band, its a hardware thing
skylinepigeon said:
tmobile has this weird 1700 AWS band, its a hardware thing
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but it will work with At&t with some mods?
Yep it will work on AT&T just fine. I am typing on it now.
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but it will work with At&t with some mods?
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I'll trade you my T-Mobile US HD2 for your Telstra HD2.
I just bought a My Touch 3G Slide on eBay. I got it unlocked in an hour using cellunlock.net for $10 and got it all setup. However, now I'm noticing that it never goes into 3G, just EDGE.
I searched to find if it could even work with Rogers' 3G network and I'm even more confused. So does it work with Rogers' 3G?
I've also seen posts that it works on HSPA. I've used the APNs for Rogers' HSPA and still I'm getting just EDGE. Do I have to update my radio, use CM6 or something?
Sorry, I'm new to the MT3GS. I have a MT3G/Magic and I thought the new one would be pretty much the same except with a keyboard.
I *think* that Roger's uses the AT&T bands for 3G, not T-Mobile. Sorry.
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I *think* that Roger's uses the AT&T bands for 3G, not T-Mobile. Sorry.
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thats correct, Att and Rodgers uses the 1900mhz band and the mt3gs only has the 1700 NA band and the 850/2100mhz EU bands
That sucks. So it won't work on HSPA either then? I though Rogers offers one of those USB modems that works on 2100MHz HSPDA. Will that work with the MT3GS?
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That sucks. So it won't work on HSPA either then? I though Rogers offers one of those USB modems that works on 2100MHz HSPDA. Will that work with the MT3GS?
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It has the 2100mhz band, but that is so you can have 3G when you go to europe. Rogers only broadcasts 1900mhz in CA.
Damn. Oh well, my wife won't know the difference between EDGE and 3G anyway. Thanks.
sorry i don't belong in this forum but how do you guys explain the g1 having 3g then its a tmobile phone does it have a att frequency for no reason?
Rogers actually sold G1s so they probably got their own version that will work on their network.
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Rogers actually sold G1s so they probably got their own version that will work on their network.
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unlocked g1's from the US work on rogers network.
Beats me. The myTouch 3G Slide I got from the US works too just not on 3G but on Edge.
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OK, I finally get that the frequency band is a hardware thing and that Rogers and T-Mobile use different bands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
So is it possible to change the actual cell phone radio chip and write a ROM that will work with it? I realize it's crazy, but with all the Android development going on, you'd think someone would have tired to get some device that only worked with T-Mobile to work on At&t.
I saw that its going to be quadband. Does that mean T-Mobile's 3G will work on it? Thanks..
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I think so... Expansys detail the Milestone 2 and Droid 2 as Quad Band and the exact specs...
Hope that helps!
Probably not. Probably has the same bands as Droid Pro which according to leaked documentation has UMTS 850/1900/2100.
There is no reason for them to include AWS in the Droid 2 Global since the only companies that use AWS are in North America where there are CDMA networks.
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Probably not. Probably has the same bands as Droid Pro which according to leaked documentation has UMTS 850/1900/2100.
There is no reason for them to include AWS in the Droid 2 Global since the only companies that use AWS are in North America where there are CDMA networks.
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But it's quad band.. you only listed three bands, no?
sinistersai4d4d said:
But it's quad band.. you only listed three bands, no?
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Quad GSM Tri UMTS Dual CDMA
GSM only is run on four bands worldwide, so any quadband GSM phone will work on any GSM network. UMTS has a large mess of bands and you need a phone which supports your network.
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Quad GSM Tri UMTS Dual CDMA
GSM only is run on four bands worldwide, so any quadband GSM phone will work on any GSM network. UMTS has a large mess of bands and you need a phone which supports your network.
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Ahh. ok.. well I hope you're wrong lol. I kinda wanna try this on t-mobile when my girl gets her D2G
There is a possibility of a carrier lock. US carriers could be locked out.
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I'm sure it will work on tmobile. I've had several storms on tmobile. Different brand, same general idea. WORLD PHONES!
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Oh yea, I'm also sure that IF it works on tmobile, it won't be 3g that you get. Edge only. Just like iPhone, which SUCKS!
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I'm sure it will work on tmobile. I've had several storms on tmobile. Different brand, same general idea. WORLD PHONES!
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Oh yea, I'm also sure that IF it works on tmobile, it won't be 3g that you get. Edge only. Just like iPhone, which SUCKS!
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^Yeah, I figured it would work on 2g, I was HOPING it would work on 3G.. but I should have known it was too much to ask. I used my iPhone on T-Mobile edge.. it was bearable... but now hspa+ has spoiled me.
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^Yeah, I figured it would work on 2g, I was HOPING it would work on 3G.. but I should have known it was too much to ask. I used my iPhone on T-Mobile edge.. it was bearable... but now hspa+ has spoiled me.
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I just got rid of my iphone for a vibrant...tmobiles 3g is not much better than edge. But I hear ya, it would be nice if the"3g" phones we take over worked on the network the way they were intended.
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I just got rid of my iphone for a vibrant...tmobiles 3g is not much better than edge. But I hear ya, it would be nice if the"3g" phones we take over worked on the network the way they were intended.
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Yeah 3g on my g1 was subpar. But im in a "4g" area now and get 3 to 6mbps no matter where I am in my city (Albany, NY).
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Albany huh? I was born in binghamton. I live in idaho now and I don't think we get 4g anywhere here yet...can't wait til we do. 3 to 6 sounds great to me!
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My friend was testing out my phone and decided to put his Bell sim card into my "unlocked" T-Mobile HD2. The problem we couldn't figure out was why the phone wouldn't get any signal what so ever and even configured my phone to Bell Mobility settings.
I use Energy's Rom and changed some of the Band/Network setting but that didn't seem to work.
Any suggestions?
Tmo HD2 uses normal gsm and 1700/2100 hsdpa aka aws, bell does not support that. Wind mobile uses aws (which is what i am using with my hd2) all though you should get a roaming signal.
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I know in Energy's Rom there is an option to change the 3G bands from like 850+1900 and stuff, shouldn't that work?
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Is that Bell SIM card for a prepaid account? If so that's why it doesn't work. Prepaid cell services don't work the same way as regular ones, and have to use specially configured devices in order to gain a signal.
Thanks for the replies! Yes i think the Bell Sim Card is a prepaid account one. The probably explains the problems we were having.
What are some carriers that are confirmed to work with the T-Mobile HTC HD2? Rogers, Fido?, Wind?, Mobilicity?
Also want to know if i'm using Rogers would the 3G capability work. I am currently using Energy's Rom.
Roger's Wind and Mobilicity are the ones that I know for sure should work. I dunno about Fido, but basically any GSM service around the world that DOESN'T use prepaid SIM cards should work with an unlocked HD2, or any device for that matter. And as far as Roger's 3G capability I don't know, what bands does Roger's use for 3G access? The TMO US HD2 uses AWS 1700/2100.
I believe rogers uses 850/1900. Not too sure but thats what i heard. Theres an option on the rom i flashed to enable 850+1900 umts or something. Im guess that would work. Cause i know if you use the stock rom that came with the T-Mobile, you the 3G doesn't work since its like 1700/2100.
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I believe rogers uses 850/1900. Not too sure but thats what i heard. Theres an option on the rom i flashed to enable 850+1900 umts or something. Im guess that would work. Cause i know if you use the stock rom that came with the T-Mobile, you the 3G doesn't work since its like 1700/2100.
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The rom will not enable 850 or 1900 umts. Ask any at&t subscriber trying to use a tmo hd2 on their network and trying to use 3g. Won't happen. If your looking for 3g, you need aws (and canada does have one, i don't remember who they are at the moment) or 2100mhz 3g/umts. gsm will work with a lot more bands.
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Roger's Wind and Mobilicity are the ones that I know for sure should work. I dunno about Fido, but basically any GSM service around the world that DOESN'T use prepaid SIM cards should work with an unlocked HD2, or any device for that matter. And as far as Roger's 3G capability I don't know, what bands does Roger's use for 3G access? The TMO US HD2 uses AWS 1700/2100.
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your wrong the Prepaid part, most prepaid cards do work like At&t, some dont work if they are like the ones sold by wallmart, but ANy GSM Sim card should work. i tried it on AT&T, VODAFONE AND AIRTEL
Lahnas said:
I believe rogers uses 850/1900. Not too sure but thats what i heard. Theres an option on the rom i flashed to enable 850+1900 umts or something. Im guess that would work. Cause i know if you use the stock rom that came with the T-Mobile, you the 3G doesn't work since its like 1700/2100.
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Those options are there in all of his roms, but the phone doesnt have the hardware to support it
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The rom will not enable 850 or 1900 umts. Ask any at&t subscriber trying to use a tmo hd2 on their network and trying to use 3g. Won't happen. If your looking for 3g, you need aws (and canada does have one, i don't remember who they are at the moment) or 2100mhz 3g/umts. gsm will work with a lot more bands.
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So you are saying UMTS(2100) will work with rogers 3G? Cause i know the stock T-Mobile roms have a GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100) band option.
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So you are saying UMTS(2100) will work with rogers 3G? Cause i know the stock T-Mobile roms have a GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100) band option.
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yeah but only If Rogers supports 2100 cuz i dont think they do but i could be wrong
Im using prepaid on wind mobile both voice and data.
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Won't work. Bell (and Telus, Virgin, Koodo, Solo) only has 850/1900 HSPA... which this phone doesn't.
Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron have 1700 AWS so this phone will work with them, ditto for Rogers and Fido but in 2G mode only (since they have 850/1900 GSM)