http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/dell-venue-pro-720p-hd-video-sample
Have to say this isn't terribly impressive, imo average. It would do for me though. Youtube comments says Focus is better, I think the actual "engineering sample" quality pictures were better. Thoughts?
wow it doesn't look promising LOL
the HD video looks laggy too
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wow it doesn't look promising LOL
the HD video looks laggy too
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Lol what the heck do you expect out of it?
The video has some artifacting but it isn't terribly bad.
Photo looks better then I expecting and isn't pink like my wifes HD7.
Supposedly it has the same camera as the iphone 4 so perhaps it could improve with an update.
really? same camera as the iphone 4? man I really hope they can fix it via update since the videos you can capture with the iphone 4 are pretty damn good
Someone said the camera image quality is increased when you use manual settings for lighting and iso(go to 400 or 800). Also the 720p video lag would be quite normal for a Class 2 microSD which I heard they were using.
so the stock sdcards are class 2? wow
i shouldn't have bought the 16gb. I should've just gotten the 8gb and swap it for a bigger and faster card
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so the stock sdcards are class 2? wow
i shouldn't have bought the 16gb. I should've just gotten the 8gb and swap it for a bigger and faster card
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SD card class isnt the most important factor with WP7, random access performance is, which is independent of class rating. Using a class 2 card should not automatically be viewed as a negative.
I do not need a high quality camera on my cell phone
That being said, my roommate has a samsung focus and the color and focus of the camera on that phone are significantly more accurate. We did a few side by side tests and it was no contest.
Also, in low light, I have not shot a single photo that was not blurry with my Dell Venue Pro. While I might not need a high quality camera, I would like one that could actually produce a non-blurry photograph.
The Dell Venue Pro camera is unacceptable in humble opinion, my g1 took better photographs, which is shameful.
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The Dell Venue Pro camera is unacceptable in humble opinion, my g1 took better photographs, which is shameful.
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Oh jeez - my G1's camera is so bad i dont even bother attempting to take a photo with it lol!
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Oh jeez - my G1's camera is so bad i dont even bother attempting to take a photo with it lol!
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To be honest the cup of cocoa isn't too bad of a shot and doesn't look much detail when zoomed in. I think with some minor tweaking to color accuracy and exposure that this camera could be pretty good.
http://pocketnow.com/images/brandon/venue/indoor.jpg
thumba photo editor
its the best dollar I have ever spent on a photographic program
it's so worth it!
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Not unless you're using that class 2 card to capture HD video. Class 2 is bottom of the barrel.
the photo looks ok. video quality better than HD2. but phone is for convienence, cannot compare to professional camera.
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thumba photo editor
its the best dollar I have ever spent on a photographic program
it's so worth it!
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does it improve your pictures taken in low light, as in, not make them blurry as hell?
brackets
just wondering what are the brackets in the camera app for
the only way i can get them to appear is by pressing and holding the camera
button while viewing camera settings and they go away as soon as i release the button and even when i hold it for several seconds it doesnt consistently take a picture
is anyone able to get this feature working if so what am i doing wrong
The brackets mean you are partially pressing the camera button which enables the camera's auto-focus feature.
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Oh jeez - my G1's camera is so bad i dont even bother attempting to take a photo with it lol!
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Well the DVP is rumored to use the exact same Camera as the iPhone 4, but the picture quality is different.
Hence this is probably just a software issue that should be fixed.
Check out these pictures I took with the DVP.
The first one (05) is WITHOUT the back on and the second (07) is with it on.
It appears the filter on the lens and/or flash is just plain poop.
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Hi,
in a German mobile phone journal I read a review on the Touch HD in which they claim that the camera is somewhat weak:
1. They say that it takes about 3 seconds between pressing to shoot the photo and actually shooting the photo.
2. They say that photos are blurred and out of focus.
Can someone of you that have the Touch HD confirm this? How is the quality of the camera?
I can confirm the 2-3 sec shutter lag on my hd. I wouldn't call the photos blurry, but of the same low mobile phone quality as many earlier generations. the 5mp are completely useless in my opinion, 2mp would be good enough. but the lag is really bad, pretty much rules out any snapshots or pics of moving objects...
I guess this is because of the autofocus working so slow.
It would be better if you could "point and shoot", e.g. as with normal cameras press the shutter half way to focus, and then press through. But I could not find out how to do it.
it says in the camera settings "main camera rear 3.2 mpcmos camera". (?)
i think the camera is fine as when you press shoot it takes a little bit of time to actually take the picture which gives you time to steady the phone in your hands(particularly as i have shaky hands) unlike regular cameras/camera phones when you lose some of the steadyness when pressing a physical shoot button.
quality wise they look fine no complaints here god willing.
..i have to admit that - among the marvelous things which i saw in the last 48 hours - the camera is the one that impressed me less. I really refer to the quality of images in low light conditions, the HTC cmos sensors have never been particularly brilliant and the touch HD is no exception in this respect (but it is in all the other aspects, in my opinion).
pzucchel said:
..i have to admit that - among the marvelous things which i saw in the last 48 hours - the camera is the one that impressed me less. I really refer to the quality of images in low light conditions, the HTC cmos sensors have never been particularly brilliant and the touch HD is no exception in this respect (but it is in all the other aspects, in my opinion).
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Thanks a lot to all the answers. Hmm, I wonder if this is possibly be cured by a software hack or later firmware, but I guess this is hardware related. Too bad. Still unsure between X1 and HD, and I know I would miss a hardware keyboard. Plus, the HD seems to be delayed in Germany ... And now this camera issues. I have to wait and see both live and compare them ...
Eriol
camera is not so bad. Considering that we are talking about a winmo device (the ONLY one with decent camera is samsung I900) I think HD takes brilliant photos when shooting with good light. It'S WAY better than any other HTC and slightly better than Sony Ericsson G900 (another 5mpx smartphone)
and is way back from X1 or Omnia.
ciao Eriol,
(I have a touch HD)
i think you are right: in the doubt, maybe better wait and see. I read about this issue of shooting delays, but actually I am not much sensitive since even with other telephones the time between thinking "i want to make a picture" and the actual picture is...10 seconds? it is very different from a real reflex camera, where in a fraction of a second you are there and the picture is in memory. I don't use the phone camera much, admittedly.
But once you will see a real one: the screen is really beautiful. I could read A4 pdf documents in full screen....by itself, to me is a quantum jump which is big enough to justify the choice.
You can see the picture quality in the attachment.
I's a Blackstone photo? Very good colors, I like'it.
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You can see the picture quality in the attachment.
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Yes, I made the photo, with my Touch HD.
And no PS?
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Yes, I made the photo, with my Touch HD.
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You can see the picture quality in the attachment.
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This is one excellent picture...picture quality is really good
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That on 5MPX?
Information on it says
2592 x 1552 Pixels (4.02 MPixels)
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Whats the PS? Photoshop? No.
PS = Photoshop.
So this picture comes directly from the mobile and without manipulation? Very good, indeed.
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Whats the PS? Photoshop? No.
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Yes, 5 MPX. I am can not, why 4.02.
More picture directly from the mobile and without manipulation here:
http://kdomo.extra.hu/hd.zip
Well, these photos can already say that lack a bit of definition. Need sharpness.
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Well, these photos can already say that lack a bit of definition. Need sharpness.
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No wonder, this comes from a ridiculous small sensor and cheap optics. But hey, this is not that bad!
After I got the EVO 4G at Google I/O, I went to France for my honeymoon, and have been using the EVO for taking pictures and videos all around Paris.
My review of the camera and the photos have just been posted at AndroidPolice.com: Review And Hands-On Results With HTC EVO 4G’s 8MP Camera – Paris In Photos
Videos coming later - I'm having trouble uploading them to Youtube from the crappy Internet connection.
Enjoy!
wow... great pictures!
JUST SAW THE MEMORY CARD ISSUE THERE.. ops.. had same problem.. got me a 16gb C4 and problem fixed.. i was worried at first
ajftl said:
JUST SAW THE MEMORY CARD ISSUE THERE.. ops.. had same problem.. got me a 16gb C4 and problem fixed.. i was worried at first
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Keep us posted if it happens again.
Sounds like the new SD card will fix the problem.
I've got my own SD card already loaded with music and pics.
When I get my Evo on Friday, I will just swap it out and be good to go.
Thanks for the post...
To be honest, I am disappointed with the picture quality. I am jealous you went to Paris, and your pictures looked fine, they were just not the quality I was expecting from an 8mp camera. They looked like a 3mp image over sharpened. FWIW, it won't stop me from test driving an Evo.
Everyone forgot to say Congratulations! on getting married. Welcome to eternal lockdown and possibly garnished paychecks. J/P in all seriousness congrats and the pics are beautiful.
any native resolution pics?? or uncompressed?? same thing, i know, not sure the technical term.
what settings are you using?
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To be honest, I am disappointed with the picture quality. I am jealous you went to Paris, and your pictures looked fine, they were just not the quality I was expecting from an 8mp camera. They looked like a 3mp image over sharpened. FWIW, it won't stop me from test driving an Evo.
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You're crazy...I'm a professional photographer and I've seen $700 Digital SLRs shoot worse photos
oh and also understand that he might have sharpening on....and the website obviously will alter the photos somewhat
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You're crazy...I'm a professional photographer and I've seen $700 Digital SLRs shoot worse photos
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Agreed. This camera is VERY good.. people are just expecting too much when they hear "8 megapixels". The sensor and optics in the camera on the back are great. Plain and simple. Don't drop your DSLR or point-and-shoot just yet, but definitely keep the EVO handy because with the processor, the pictures snap quickly and they geotag super fast and are easy to send to Flickr. I love it.
To answer some of the questions above, the settings are all auto - the only thing I changed was the resolution. No sharpening has been done, either when shooting or after. In fact, the camera doesn't have a sharpen option at all.
The website doesn't alter the photos either - what you are viewing in the lightbox is the full thing, granted it's scaled down by the browser to fit your screen. If you want to view the full size, just right click and copy link or Save As.
And thank you for the congratulations
I still think the camera on the EVO is really nice - yes, the optics could improve but I'm loving that I don't actually HAVE to have my point-and-shoot with me to produce some nice pics.
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yeah im not a pro, but those pictures look GREAT!
fairly well written article, although it saddens me today's consumer needs the 'important parts' bolded so he doesn't have to read comprehensively.
oh wait, we're supposed to be talking about the phone?
yes, yes - nice pictures
I took a picture and the picture looked good until I zoomed in. Despite taking a "superfine" picture on the maximum available resolution, zooming in resulted in an extremely grainy photograph. Pictures taken on my HTC Raphael running Windows Mobile look far better.
I am still happy with the phone and I am sure the picture quality will be fine for what little I use it for, but I really expected a much higher level of detail.
Have you considered the Galaxy S allows for larger zoom?
I moved the pictures from the Raph to my Galaxy S, so I am viewing them on the same platform.
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I moved the pictures from the Raph to my Galaxy S, so I am viewing them on the same platform.
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But the picture you took on your ralph is how many megapixels?
Either way a photo when viewed on a monitor will be resized to 1080 max.your just Digital Zooming farther...megapixel doesn't mean quality..it just means your capturing more
3.2 Megapixels on the Raph. I'm going to mess around with settings and see if I can get a better picture, but I was really hoping for this phone to have everything working well out of the box without tweaking.
It's not disappointing because I wasn't expecting much. But the signal to noise ratio of the pics is low. You can see quite a bit of grain. I do like the color saturation.
Meh, it works as a phone cam.
So far with the GPS/Compass issues and the average quality cam, I'm not considering this a "superphone" or a premium Android device. It's just ok. And I'm ok with that.
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3.2 Megapixels on the Raph. I'm going to mess around with settings and see if I can get a better picture, but I was really hoping for this phone to have everything working well out of the box without tweaking.
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it is working well....take your pc and resize the images to 1920x1080...
again megapixels does not give you quality..but allows you for farther zoom..if you zoom in more...I have a 6mp canon camera...when I zoom it it looks grainy as well..but when its printed or uploaded..it is rescaled to proper resolution..then it looks perfect...
More megapixels equals less quality on any small device.
Ps I thought that Vibrant didnt have gps issues, no ?
I noticed the same grainy quality and am slightly disappointed as well. But if you make sure you are in the best mode for your environment the quality improves appreciably. Still, the issue is not happy making.
kolyan said:
More megapixels equals less quality on any small device.
Ps I thought that Vibrant didnt have gps issues, no ?
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From what I read...the GPS issue is only with Google Maps when there was one, when using a GPS software there was no issue..but firmware upgrade fixed that either way..
@bdjnk - Again..this is to be expected...megapixels != quality...it only allows for more zoom...the quality when compared was no different then a 5mp canon camera...so far the Galaxy S actually has the best camera of any phone of the same class...
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From what I read...the GPS issue is only with Google Maps when there was one, when using a GPS software there was no issue..but firmware upgrade fixed that either way..
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Wrong, the GPS issue is actually more pronounced in other apps, for example, My Tracks.
Firmware upgrade didn't fix anything.
GPS and compass both are ****ty.
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I took a picture and the picture looked good until I zoomed in. Despite taking a "superfine" picture on the maximum available resolution, zooming in resulted in an extremely grainy photograph. Pictures taken on my HTC Raphael running Windows Mobile look far better.
I am still happy with the phone and I am sure the picture quality will be fine for what little I use it for, but I really expected a much higher level of detail.
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Apparently the gallery isn't zooming in on photos like it should. Instead of comparing on your phone in the gallery, transfer the photos to a PC and compare on the PC.
You'll notice the GalaxyS pictures come out just fine.
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From what I read...the GPS issue is only with Google Maps when there was one, when using a GPS software there was no issue..but firmware upgrade fixed that either way..
@bdjnk - Again..this is to be expected...megapixels != quality...it only allows for more zoom...the quality when compared was no different then a 5mp canon camera...so far the Galaxy S actually has the best camera of any phone of the same class...
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Droid X might've nailed it. Dual Leds, panoramic shotting....
I moved over from a Nexus One...and I feel the same way...i love this phone, but the picture quality is not on par with the Nexus. I'm going it's a software issue and can be fixed.
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Droid X might've nailed it. Dual Leds, panoramic shotting....
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They did a side by side of a Galaxy S and DroidX camera...the Galaxy S pretty much destroyed the DroidX..mostly in video recording...
http://thedroidguy.blogspot.com/2010/07/samsung-captivate-vs-motorola-droid-x.html
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They did a side by side of a Galaxy S and DroidX camera...the Galaxy S pretty much destroyed the DroidX..mostly in video recording...
http://thedroidguy.blogspot.com/2010/07/samsung-captivate-vs-motorola-droid-x.html
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i dont really use Video feature on cellphones, but I do use Camera for shots when I dont have my S90 around.
I noticed on then vid that Galaxy was recording in 480p and Droid X in 720p.....whats up with that ?
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i dont really use Video feature on cellphones, but I do use Camera for shots when I dont have my S90 around.
I noticed on then vid that Galaxy was recording in 480p and Droid X in 720p.....whats up with that ?
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Yes I noticed that too..but for some reason the 480p version came out still better then the Droid 720p...its possible he accidently had it set to 480p or uploaded it as 480p
The G being an actual photo camera...
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@bdjnk - Again..this is to be expected...megapixels != quality...it only allows for more zoom...the quality when compared was no different then a 5mp canon camera...so far the Galaxy S actually has the best camera of any phone of the same class...
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I didn't mention the word megapixel. I was talking about the noticable graininess that exists when viewing pictures, taken with the vibrant, at 100% zoom.
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Apparently the gallery isn't zooming in on photos like it should. Instead of comparing on your phone in the gallery, transfer the photos to a PC and compare on the PC.
You'll notice the GalaxyS pictures come out just fine.
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Hm, not really. I am not an expert, but to my eye the same level of noticeable graininess is present on the phone and on my computer.
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I didn't mention the word megapixel. I was talking about the noticable graininess that exists when viewing pictures, taken with the vibrant, at 100% zoom.
Hm, not really. I am not an expert, but to my eye the same level of noticeable graininess is present on the phone and on my computer.
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What I am saying is this is generally normal on an unprocessed image with high megapixel count..resize both images to 1920x1080 (which is maximum screen resolution now) and you can see what the actual quality is...
Or are you expecting the phone to act like microscope?
to explain, if you do 100% zoom a 1mp would look better then a 3mp, a 3mp will look better then a 5mp..a 5mp would look better then a 20mp..its just how it is..
Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
End rant./
not gonna lie it kinda does suck on video and on normal shots you have to be still for a couple of seconds and it looks really nice
I like pics i take with it
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not gonna lie it kinda does suck on video and on normal shots you have to be still for a couple of seconds and it looks really nice
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It's the software that comes with it I've tried other camera software like camera pro it snaps fast like really fast. Just that the software needs to be updated for the HTC EVO. Far as stock camera video its the software encoding sucks. The hardware is great just finding the right software or somebody develops one. Seems as if all the devs are busy rooting and tweaking the roms that HTC and Google should of done before even releasing software. Then maybe the devs can focus on making apps for us. Maybe somebody will soon develop better camera and video app that really take advantage of this great camera.
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Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Are you focusing the camera? Press and hold on the screen in the area you want to focus and it will focus and snap the picture. The pictures are pretty good (not DSLR quality or anything, but much better than most/all phones).
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Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Ok, two things to point out here
1. The Droid X and iPhone did not destroy the Evo in terms of camera. Camcorder wise yes, but not the camera itself. That's working just fine, and I haven't heard too many complaints about the camera itself. Most cell phone cameras at this level produce similar results.
2. Yes, the video quality does suck ass, but its been made a whole lot better here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711808. My evo is recording at 13 mbps in h.264, and the results are fantastic. We shouldn't have to be doing this, but at least its working.
It's a phone.
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Agreed. The camera sucks.. I think it's 8 in dog megapixels.
Ahh, ignorance is bliss!
Megapixels =/= photo quality directly. Mega pixel = 1 million pixels. 8 MP = 8 million pixels. There is much more than just "MP" when comparing cameras silly..
Go get educated, then come back
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Ahh, ignorance is bliss!
Megapixels =/= photo quality directly. Mega pixel = 1 million pixels. 8 MP = 8 million pixels. There is much more than just "MP" when comparing cameras silly..
Go get educated, then come back
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Very true. Tons of megapixels really only help when you want to get huge prints. The two most important parts of a camera in my opinion are the image sensor and the lens, neither of which are going to be that great on any phone camera. I think the pictures the Evo takes are pretty good for a phone.
The evo camera isn't amazing... but if you need quality pictures, DON'T RELY ON YOUR PHONE. It's a ****ing phone! Get yourself a point and shoot or a DSLR.
Guys guys think about it phone cameras has came a long way from back in the early days. Soon these cameras will take the place of point and shoot. If you want better get DSLR. I have seen some great
Photos around the forum. The camera in this EVO are capable of taking great photos plus EVO has the processor to handle it more than what a point and shoot has. Soon cell phones will be getting dual cores. But until then it is this whack stock software that is processing the photos. Take the iPhone 5mp camera making the EVO picture look bad because they have a great camera software. Only if somebody can write a better camera app if I could code that would of been the first app I would of made. That and a better video conferencing app.
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Ok, two things to point out here
1. The Droid X and iPhone did not destroy the Evo in terms of camera. Camcorder wise yes, but not the camera itself. That's working just fine, and I haven't heard too many complaints about the camera itself. Most cell phone cameras at this level produce similar results.
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As someone who has owned and used both the iPhone 4 and the Evo (returned my iP4 for the Evo), I can confidently say that the iP4's camera does indeed destroy the one on the Evo. I love my Evo and wouldn't switch back if you paid me, but the cameras aren't even in the same league.
The Evo takes photos which are on-par with the smartphones we've all seen and used over the last few years. They're okay. You can put the pics up on your website, etc., but I wouldn't rely on the Evo for anything particularly important. The iP4's camera, on the other hand, is just amazing. It can hold its own against any of the typical $200 - $300 non-DSLR cameras on the market and, therefore, can effectively be your everyday, walking around camera.
The best summary I can give is that the Evo's camera is a good to okay camera -- for a cell phone. The iP4's camera is a very good camera -- period.
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Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Are you judging the fuzzy picture at first glance? By that I mean preview after your shot or in gallery? Because sometimes the picture if you don't zoom in it can look really fuzzy and then when you zoom in a title bit it corrects the picture quality and be very clear. Also download them to your pc and see how they actually turn out. You might be surprised. I am an avid amateur photographer so I use DSLR to shoot pictures. In good light the camera and software combo isn't bad. It has horrible low light capability but then again its a phone camera. And as many people said a few tweak here and there with the software and it will make a big difference. I know when they tweaked the HTC HD2 phone I had it made a world of difference. I know it will happen on this phone too. We have to let some get past the linpacks and quadrant scores for a little while before cameras become the hot topic
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the pictures aren't the greatest but i have gotten some really good ones. I attached a few. People need to quit complaining though, it's a damn phone and the quality isn't half bad, if we can make it better then so be it but it's good as it is. These are from when i took my lil sisters to the zoo we were at the butterfly garden. I didn't edit these at all and they look even better on my phone
Its inferior to other devices so actually we should complain. Sure you can get nice shots but its anything but automatic.
I don't think it's that bad. Took this picture a month ago.
I agree on both sides here...the camera is pretty decent, but I do believe software improvements can and should be made.
Hasn't it been posted here that the camera manufacturer is the same as the ip4's?
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I really have to pick on this.
They can call it an 8MP camera because it IS an 8MP sensor that produces a photograph that contains 8 million pixels.
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I really have to pick on this.
They can call it an 8MP camera because it IS an 8MP sensor that produces a photograph that contains 8 million pixels.
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Exactly. I would have to say that's one of the reasons for the "megapixels aren't everything" argument. It's just a description of how many pixels the sensor can produce like you said.
If you have a bigger sensor (which is difficult in a cellphone camera obviously) like in a DSLR, you get bigger pixels. I freakin' love my new Canon Rebel T2i I just bought last week!
I just bought a new camera to tote around mainly for my wife. I thought it was a pretty good camera, it's a fuji 14mp point and shoot. I've had one in the past which was pretty good.
Anyway, my point being my freaking camera on my note takes much better pictures than this camera does. I would think a dedicated camera would be the winner but Samsung did a good job here.
I've seen threads past complaining about the notes camera but mine takes great pics. Needless to sat wife still asks for the phone to take pics. That was a waste of money
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Try comparing the two in conditions with poor lighting, particularly in any scenario that would require a flash or longer exposure.
When it comes to camera's, opposed to what alot of people think, the amount of megapixels you have isn't important at all. What's more important is the lens, and how big it is. The lighting, shutter time etc..
Just like knightnz said, the fuji would probably come out on top in "harder" to capture pictures.
Still I have to agree, the Note takes amazing pictures.
Yea I haven't tried the note much in low light or night pics so I'll have to check it out. I understand and have always read mp mean nothing so what is the point of these higher mp counts? I mean they are coming out with a friggin 41mp camera soon on a phone at that! Why the need for high mp if they don't affect quality?
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It is just for marketing purpose.
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sprintuser1977 said:
Yea I haven't tried the note much in low light or night pics so I'll have to check it out. I understand and have always read mp mean nothing so what is the point of these higher mp counts? I mean they are coming out with a friggin 41mp camera soon on a phone at that! Why the need for high mp if they don't affect quality?
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It's not like the phone takes a 2GB 41 mp jpeg lol. It's a new type of technology that combines pixles in such a way that it creates a 5-8mp file with lossless 4x zoom and greatly reduced noise.
The *real* breakthrough is the size of the lense and the amount of light it lets in. I've seen some sample pictures and it has a mean DOF effect and almost no noise.
Back to the point. The notes camera is great and it is better than a few point and shoots that my friends have, I just wish there was image stabilisation but that's just software right?
a wise man once said:
"The best Camera to have, is the one that's is in your hand."
I havnt been too impressed with the camera.. It is pretty good for a phone but I miss how fast my iPhone snapped a pic compared to this.. Not saying it's bad though
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James Harrison said:
Back to the point. The notes camera is great and it is better than a few point and shoots that my friends have, I just wish there was image stabilisation but that's just software right?
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Well, the best image stabilisation is actually hardware. It is a prism that moves based on a gyroscope to compensate for all camera movements. Effectively it keeps the physical focus point where it was and moves it slowly to where it now is, avoiding the quick shake caused by your movements. Software can only compensate slightly by moving the physical focus around in a similar way in a larger recorded image.
The best I have ever had is in my Sony HandyCam. It was the bees knees when I bought it many years ago. Full 1080p video with a superb and huge Carl Zeiss lens. Dark shots were great and better than most other cameras, and it even does a fair IR night mode. The videos are very stable as long as you do not do any large swings. The 10x optical zoom is also fantastic.
Now my Note stands in, but it will never replace the HC because of the poorer dark videos, lack of zoom, and the complete lack of stabilisation. Having said that, it is used a hell of a lot more as a camera and video cam, because it is always with me!
jb9217a said:
I havnt been too impressed with the camera.. It is pretty good for a phone but I miss how fast my iPhone snapped a pic compared to this.. Not saying it's bad though
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Once ics comes in, u will get 0 shutter lag ! much faster than iphone...
Is there anyway we can shut camera click sound ?
The camera is good enough.
But when you see your note camera taking better pictures than stand alone point and shoot snapper, you know you have crap point and shoot camera or the person taking photographs is not taking pictures properly.
Under good light conditions, these modern snappers will match the P&S sensor quality if you know what you are doing. Picture quality varies greatly by simple choice of settings by the person taking pictures on Note. Leave it at auto and you will not get the best results in tricky conditions. You also need steady hands to get good snaps from Note camera.
But overall, its good enough to be good casual snapper.
But if you start comparing Note against even older good compact cameras like Panasonic ZS7 (which is now outdated), its not even close. These point and shoot cameras will outperform Note under any condition. Leave alone more expensive and also cameras with newer better sensors available today.
The good thing about Note camera is that it takes more than decent pictures with relatively accurate colour reproduction unlike some other phone cameras.
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jeromepearce said:
..lack of zoom..
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There is a rather crappy digital zoom that happens when you press the volume button and swipe your finger across the slider that appears.. like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7abTRUO4WQ
(ignore the girl lol)
In other areas: I realise now that the stabilisation is hardware but you'd be SO suprised at how much software effects the video quality. I have 2 examples.
My old HD2 on windows mobile or android had TERRIBLE low light quality, frame rate dropped down to 9/10 fps, image noise was just unacceptable. -->
Updated to windows phone 7, and low light was quality is insane now. did not drop a single frame. The quality even went up to full 720p (which was not possible before)
I've even made some short movies with it because the low light was so good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZP68dAtn14 and the non "8mm style" shots in here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JQVeeZL4aQ
(sorry not trying to drop videos here but just so you get my point)
Second example is my transformer prime. Same thing. On Honeycomb terrible fps in low light and a whole heap of noise ---> ICS update and the camera was a different beast.
My point is, software is very important in mobile cameras. Once we get ICS, we can start complaining or praising properly
katyarevishal said:
Once ics comes in, u will get 0 shutter lag ! much faster than iphone...
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Dear katyarevishal,
I was hoping that till trying ICS leak but shutter lag is still same as GB... Losing my hope... Thats why i am using Fast Burst Camera app to catch the moment but limited to 1 mpx...
Kind regards...
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Dear katyarevishal,
I was hoping that till trying ICS leak but shutter lag is still same as GB... Losing my hope... Thats why i am using Fast Burst Camera app to catch the moment but limited to 1 mpx...
Kind regards...
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thats because its a leak and hasnt got the fully working driverset