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I've had Android since it was released - first on a G1, and currently on my Droid. I've grown to love stock, vanilla Android. The EVO seems to be everything I want in a phone, but unfortunately, it also has SenseUI. And on top of that, from what I've seen, it's also going to come with some Sprint bloatware (i.e., Nascar app, NFL app, Sprint TV, etc.). These things have me very hesitant to get an EVO. I was wondering if there are any other hardcore Android users out there now who share my feelings, and I'm wondering what your plans may be. I guess I can cross my fingers and hope for a custom stock ROM to be released, but I don't really want to buy a phone, pay an ETF with Verizon, and take a chance on Sprint's coverage when I'm not even sure if this will be an option any time soon.
I will just throw this out there:
This phone has plenty of memory to handle the few bloatware apps (I have 265MB free with almost all of my apps from my Hero installed), and it is fast enough to handle Sense with ease. No. Lag. Calm your mind, grasshopper.
Oh, and even with Sense UI, you can disable the home launcher and use launcher2 if you MUST have that vanilla home.
Thanks for the input. I take it that you've used Sense before? It's nice to have the option to turn off Sense on the home screen, but what about native applications like Gmail, SMS, and the browser? Does Sense use the "stock" versions of these apps, or are you stuck with their own versions?
nyijedi said:
Thanks for the input. I take it that you've used Sense before? It's nice to have the option to turn off Sense on the home screen, but what about native applications like Gmail, SMS, and the browser? Does Sense use the "stock" versions of these apps, or are you stuck with their own versions?
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I used Sense on the Hero, and I have the EVO now. I've only used an AOSP ROM for about 2 weeks on the Hero before 2.1 was working, so that's all the experience I've got there. I think HTC has their own messaging apps, but AFAIK, Gmail and the browser are the same (though I may be wrong, so one of you guys feel free to correct me). I also never really use the stock apps other than Gmail (I use Handcent and Dolphin Browser HD).
Stock's browser WAS different, sense added mutltitouch pinch to zoom before it was the standard. They might be the same now, they might still be different. Apps I know are different are messaging, contacts, dialer, camera, clock, calculator, gallery, and I think that's it. We'll be stuck with it until an AOSP rom comes out.
I agree, I hate sense UI and would love vanilla AOSP on the Evo. I am using the stock launcher but beyond that, all the sense apps are still there. If you simply won't be happy without the vanilla experience then I personally recommend against the Evo until we have a solid custom AOSP rom which could take a long time.
Regarding unwanted apps, I think those will be pretty easy to remove as soon as we get root access
Why do you guys get your panties in such a wad over non-AOSP apps? Your messaging app doesn't look the same as AOSP? OH NOES! Deal-breaker fo' sho'!
Is it really worth missing out on an awesmome phone because you don't like the appearance of a couple stock apps?
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Why do you guys get your panties in such a wad over non-AOSP apps? Your messaging app doesn't look the same as AOSP? OH NOES! Deal-breaker fo' sho'!
Is it really worth missing out on an awesmome phone because you don't like the appearance of a couple stock apps?
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Co-sign, People ask for to much and never happy.
If you hate sense that much then dont buy the evo. and wait for it to get a custom AOSP rom, or 2.2. then go find a store that has a evo(which would be hard to find since by time someone makes a rom all the stores would be sold out with no pre-order)
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Why do you guys get your panties in such a wad over non-AOSP apps? Your messaging app doesn't look the same as AOSP? OH NOES! Deal-breaker fo' sho'!
Is it really worth missing out on an awesmome phone because you don't like the appearance of a couple stock apps?
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Co-sign, People ask for to much and never happy.
If you hate sense that much then dont buy the evo. and wait for it to get a custom AOSP rom, or 2.2. then go find a store that has a evo(which would be hard to find since by time someone makes a rom all the stores would be sold out with no pre-order)
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Finally I've found weird people like me that will get the EVO regardless of the stock appls and all that crap. The point is that we always gonna have black and white, good and bad, pretty and ugly, that's why we have this forum, so many phone companies and so many opinions about a single subject, a word of advice, if you don't like it, then don't eat it, as simple as that.
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Finally I've found weird people like me that will get the EVO regardless of the stock appls and all that crap. The point is that we always gonna have black and white, good and bad, pretty and ugly, that's why we have this forum, so many phone companies and so many opinions about a single subject, a word of advice, if you don't like it, then don't eat it, as simple as that.
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Completely agree, me personally, i've never owned an android device, but i've used many throughout the past few years(almost all), and i really grew to love stock android myself, used to HATE sense UI and was going to ignore the **** out of this phone until a stock version came out. But, I gave it a chance, i looked in to it and tried it, and i've grown to like sense ui. Even when i didn't though, i pushed all my hate aside and saw what was an amazing device, sense ui doesn't really change a whole **** ton besides, mostly, aesthetics... There are a few functions added but honestly, it isn't like it totally changed android in to something completely different.
For me: Sense adds Facebook sync. AOSP adds nothing close to that.
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Is it really worth missing out on an awesmome phone because you don't like the appearance of a couple stock apps?
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That's the question I'm asking myself. I don't know if it's worth it. I'm leaning towards getting the phone despite Sense....
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The point is that we always gonna have black and white, good and bad, pretty and ugly, that's why we have this forum, so many phone companies and so many opinions about a single subject, a word of advice, if you don't like it, then don't eat it, as simple as that.
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Except it's not as simple as that when you're like me and you absolutely LOVE the hardware of the EVO, but are less than enthused about Sense. In no way am I bashing the phone or people who like Sense. I'm just not sure whether I'll be happy with the tradeoff.
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For me: Sense adds Facebook sync. AOSP adds nothing close to that.
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What kind of facebook sync does Sense add that isn't in the AOSP? The AOSP has synced facebook friends with their profiles on your phone since Android 2.0.1 on the Droid, unless Sense does something extra that I'm not aware of.
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What kind of facebook sync does Sense add that isn't in the AOSP? The AOSP has synced facebook friends with their profiles on your phone since Android 2.0.1 on the Droid, unless Sense does something extra that I'm not aware of.
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I wasn't aware that Android 2.0+ synced contacts. Like I said, I had only used AOSP 1.6, and my biggest complaint was lack of Facebook sync.
I love my Evo, don't get me wrong, but the OP specifically asked about AOSP on this device. Having used HTC Sense on Android a bunch, then AOSP on Android, I personally greatly prefer the latter. Also the AOSP apps are hands down faster than the Sense apps. However Sense apps on the Evo are way faster than AOSP apps on the Hero, so it's still a winner for me. Now, AOSP apps on the Evo would be ridiculously fast! Here's hoping
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I wasn't aware that Android 2.0+ synced contacts. Like I said, I had only used AOSP 1.6, and my biggest complaint was lack of Facebook sync.
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if your on 2.0+ AOSP, facebook syncs via the facebook app that you download via market. (correct me if im wrong people)
on 2.0+ with sense you get HTC own facebook sync. which i think is better then the AOSP one.
Ok. Here's my 2 cents. I have been with Android from the beginning. Actually I started on the Dream with Android 1.1 but still. I remember the first Sapphire build to the first Sense build ever flashed on our devices from haykuro. I have seen it all. In my personal opinion Sense is unnecessarily taking too much memory. I just come from the Cyanogen camp where speed is everything. That said, Sense runs great on the Evo. It's bearable, unlike with the Hero. That said I will still take AOSP over Sense any day.
To the Vision ROMS Mods,
would you kindly make us a CM7 Sense ROM? A CM7 ROM with or able to take HTC Sense Widgtes?
It is hard, yes, and our mods are hardworking. It is impossible, no, there is no such a thing as impossible when it comes to technology on XDA-Developers.
Hoping and waiting and believing!
This ... would be epic.
It's not impossible, but it's not worth the effort. The Sense widgets require the Sense framework which is closed source. In order to merge the two, you would need to reverse-engineer the Sense framework which is near impossible. So, no, it's not gonna happen.
This has been talked about countless times for years.. if it was possible it would of been achieved by now..
just saying..
on that note, I'd be impressed if I were to log into XDA one and see it a hybred Cm7/Sense ROM
This would be like the yankees and red sox merging to form one entity.
i think every one would love that, it would be great but who knows maybe soon they will, i mean they have sense-ish with vanilla so maybe
If only such a thing was possible... a Sense/CM7 hybrid would be the best ROM ever, hands down
Shame it isn't though, as someone already mentioned, it would involve reverse-engineering Sense since it's closed source, and CM is strictly AOSP
its a extremely difficult task that may not even have a nice reward at the end. Look at how pissed HTC got with the Beautiful widgets looking too much like theirs. My guess is that if a dev did in fact pull this off, it'd be shutdown before most of us could enjoy it...
I actually prefer having to choose between one and the other, since they are so distinct in style. I think some of the "conveniences" of Sense could easily be easily be written into AOSP roms, but in terms of aesthetics and style - I like them being separate.
If a "blend" is what you want, then you should probably give UD a spin, but I'm pretty sure that will fall short of what you seek.
This belongs in the general section. Android has been out since 2008, you don't think someone has already thought about wanting this? And 3 years later it hasn't been accomplished yet? It should already be obvious its not done yet because it's damn near impossible. But hey its not bad to ask for something. Only thing i think would ever be close to this is someone making a stock launcher with beautiful widgets incorperated into it or something hellishly close to
Sense widgets. But besides that, please don't ever, EVER, count on it.
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do it with Sense 3.0 and ill donate a ton, and run around my neighborhood naked! lol
Makes me wonder, what ever happened to sillian?
I've never been a fan of sense, CM is great how it is.
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I'd be impressed if I were to log into XDA one and see it a hybred Cm7/Sense ROM
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actually the senseginger 3.0 rom is almost that, you can disable htc lockscreen in lieu of vanilla lockscreen, it has the nice gingerbread on/off screen animations, I use launcher pro plus with it and everything seems pretty damn snappy... the launcher pro plus widgets are practically direct copies of the htc widgets, and I get to have a 5x5 homescreen... I'm sure once the source drops for the htc gingerbread vision kernel I'll get stellar quadrant scores as I do on virtuous 1.0.2 (2500+ @ 1402Mhz)
no way...if you want sense, use a sense rom.
Sense is teh suck
hi, guys. i was about to sell my htc hd2 becuz after modding it, it just fell short of my expectations.. it caused huge batt drain and was slow. i want to give it one more chance. i never installed android on it, but i want to. but, i want an android version that:
1) saves battery life the most, and is fast.
2) and one that looks like the 6.5 stock with sense from the hd2.
if any of you can suggest an android version based on these needs, please let me. thanks.
koolxx said:
hi, guys. i was about to sell my htc hd2 becuz after modding it, it just fell short of my expectations.. it caused huge batt drain and was slow. i want to give it one more chance. i never installed android on it, but i want to. but, i want an android version that:
1) saves battery life the most, and is fast.
2) and one that looks like the 6.5 stock with sense from the hd2.
if any of you can suggest an android version based on these needs, please let me. thanks.
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1) "Android" drains more battery than Windows Mobile, always. The reason I quote it is because Android itself doesn't drain more battery, the user drains more battery. Android is much more versatile and user friendly than any other OS out there so you have more things on it and use it more, therefore...less battery life. Sense roms drain the battery even further, more eye candy/features = more drain. Non-Sense roms drain the least battery and CyanogenMod roms (CM/CM6/CM7 as they're referred to) are a little better than Sense roms when it comes to battery drain (most of the time), however, I prefer Sense as it just looks better and has more handy features; for Sense I recommend CMYLXGO's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159) or CoreDroid's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507) --- I personally use CoreDroid's as CMY's has been giving me crashes when changing notifications and sometimes the dialer hangs, CoreDroid is fantastic though and looks nice with the theming, I'll stick to that for quite a while. As for Non-Sense roms, I recommend HyberDroidGBX (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899).
2) As for one that looks like WM6.5, I don't see it happening. None come like that stock that I've seen and I've never seen a theme that looks like it, in my opinion, it would take far too many apps/widgets to make it look like WM6.5 to keep it stable.
In my opinion, if you want to get rid of you HD2 because of the battery life/speed, you won't be happy with another phone ever again.
I assume this is your first 'true' smart phone, their battery is just as good as an old Nokia/Motorola phone when it comes to standby, but what do you expect when you have a screen 4 times the size and features out the ass? If you want a smartphone AND long battery life, there's one solution...use it for Phone calls only (and render it useless as a smart phone in the process)
The HD2 is an extremely fast phone, it was on the top for speed for quite awhile.
The HD2 was meant for Android, why they limited it to WM blows my mind but it crippled it.
Run Android on your HD2 and you'll be happy; Android beats WM in every way possible IMO, they're almost perfectly stable now too. VERY minor bugs left with these Android builds.
1) "Android" drains more battery than Windows Mobile, always. The reason I quote it is because Android itself doesn't drain more battery, the user drains more battery. Android is much more versatile and user friendly than any other OS out there so you have more things on it and use it more, therefore...less battery life. Sense roms drain the battery even further, more eye candy/features = more drain. Non-Sense roms drain the least battery and CyanogenMod roms (CM/CM6/CM7 as they're referred to) are a little better than Sense roms when it comes to battery drain (most of the time), however, I prefer Sense as it just looks better and has more handy features; for Sense I recommend CMYLXGO's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159) or CoreDroid's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507) --- I personally use CoreDroid's as CMY's has been giving me crashes when changing notifications and sometimes the dialer hangs, CoreDroid is fantastic though and looks nice with the theming, I'll stick to that for quite a while. As for Non-Sense roms, I recommend HyberDroidGBX (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899).
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thank you for your good input. i think at this point i'm going to sell my phone. this is just too much for me.
In my opinion, if you want to get rid of you HD2 because of the battery life/speed, you won't be happy with another phone ever again.
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thats not true.. i was checking out my friend's iphone 4 and i got to say, i'm addicted to it.
I assume this is your first 'true' smart phone, their battery is just as good as an old Nokia/Motorola phone when it comes to standby,
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actually, this is my 6th phone.
The HD2 is an extremely fast phone, it was on the top for speed for quite awhile.
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thats not true! the iphone beats it in terms of speed. its been tested and proven. i dont mean to advertise the iphone, but based on what i've experienced with and read about it, it comes on top in terms of speed, apps, battery, and stability.
iPhone is actually slower than the HD2 in terms of specs, iPhones just 'appear' faster because iOS is as simple as Windows 95 and Windows Mobile is as slow as...I don't really have a pun for this one but it's slow.
The battery life is based upon the user, I will admit that iPhone's have a little bit of a better battery life (as long as you don't abuse 3/4G).
Keep in mind, you're basing your assumptions about the HD2 off of WM which is slow and lacking features all on its own.
Hey Koolxx glad to see you in the Android forums.
I truly hate to see you say you are considering selling (I read your other thread in the HD2 General forum too) your HD2 as the HD2 is not just your run of the mill smartphone. It was the first in a new wave of smartphones because of the screen size, screen resolution, and 1gz Snapdragon processor. If you take a look at the new smartphones that have been and are being released after the HD2 you will see exactly what I mean.
I loved and still do love Windows Mobile, it was a pioneer as far as a what a truly functional mobile OS should be and the capabilities it has. I have considered several times going back to Windows Mobile since I made the switch to Android, but have not for several reasons.
1. I just can not bare the thought of having to deal with the quirkiness of Windows Mobile, everyone should know what I mean by that.
2. I truly believe Android is the OS of the future. Android is growing at such a rapid pace it is leaving other OS's behind. One reason for this is not because of the popularity of Android but because Android is a open sourced system meaning anyone who can contribute to it as far as improvements and features can. This is what is meant when you hear "When it is no limits to what Droid gets, it is no limit to what Droid does."
3. Android has way more apps, development, and hacking support than Windows Mobile at this point.
4. I am learning everything I can about Android right now as I want to be a developer.
I could give more but those are the basic reasons. If you are still interested in going Android please click on the link in my sig that says "Guide" at the front. It can help you out a whole lot. Plus I have links in there to two of the best guides on installing Android to your HD2. My guide is meant to be more of a educational tool than a tutorial on how to flash Android or WP7.
I know you said you like the iPhone and Apply does have some good products. But I hate Apply because to me they are totally disrespectful to the consumer, you know the people that actually by their products. If I pay a large chunk of money for a device I want to be able to do what I want to with it. Not be told I can only use it in they way that the manufacture or OS developer wants me to. After all I paid my money for the device so it belongs to me not them. I could go way deeper into the conversation but this post is already massive.
Let me know if I can help you out any.
koolxx said:
hi, guys. i was about to sell my htc hd2 becuz after modding it, it just fell short of my expectations.. it caused huge batt drain and was slow. i want to give it one more chance. i never installed android on it, but i want to. but, i want an android version that:
1) saves battery life the most, and is fast.
2) and one that looks like the 6.5 stock with sense from the hd2.
if any of you can suggest an android version based on these needs, please let me. thanks.
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I am not going to argue about the iPhone. I never used it, I don't like it so I have nothing to say about it.
About android.
Really? You want a build which is themed to look like a WinMo stock? Why?
check this thread to see what Android GUI is about and the endless customizations you can do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743301
I cannot accept the fact that you want to sell your HD2 (the only device that support so many OSs) before even trying Android.
I am using Android since the firsts SD build came out and once NAND was out I have never changed back to WinMo.
Battery life for me is better than WinMo in equal use but as hd2k10 said it is the user who is draining the battery and not the OS.
There are Sense, Non-Sence and MIUI builds.
If you want an iPhone GUI you can always check MIUI builds.
koolxx said:
the iphone beats it in terms of speed. its been tested and proven. i
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By whom and when? IMO iPhone 4 is equally fast as HD2 with stock Android. And YES, I have used iPhone 4 a lot (my father owns it and I'm always helping him with something, intuitive OS my a** ) and both phones are just instant. I mean there is no lag at anything. But often iOS has to load something and you just sit there and admire blank screen before stuff appears. Never seen that on my HD2.
Android is as fast as the device it's running on. HD2 is amazingly fast, and so is OS running on it.
koolxx said:
thank you for your good input. i think at this point i'm going to sell my phone. this is just too much for me.
thats not true.. i was checking out my friend's iphone 4 and i got to say, i'm addicted to it.
actually, this is my 6th phone.
thats not true! the iphone beats it in terms of speed. its been tested and proven. i dont mean to advertise the iphone, but based on what i've experienced with and read about it, it comes on top in terms of speed, apps, battery, and stability.
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I Cam buy your hd2, how much do you want for it?
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iPhone is actually slower than the HD2 in terms of specs, iPhones just 'appear' faster because iOS is as simple as Windows 95 and Windows Mobile is as slow as...I don't really have a pun for this one but it's slow.
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i think youre saying that an hd2 with droid may be faster that an iphone. if thats the case, i might agree with you, since i did see gingerbread 2.3.2 on an hd2 and its just incredibly fast!
The battery life is based upon the user, I will admit that iPhone's have a little bit of a better battery life (as long as you don't abuse 3/4G).
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i've never used 3/4g.. i'm on wifi.
Keep in mind, you're basing your assumptions about the HD2 off of WM which is slow and lacking features all on its own.
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yes this is very true. which is why i'm thinking about instlling gingerbread 2.3.2 that some russian guy called imilka has created. it looks VERY fast. i just hope he updated the cam though.. thats the only thing that worries me cuz the cam runs very very slow.
T-Macgnolia said:
Hey Koolxx glad to see you in the Android forums.
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thanks t-mac.. yeah, hopefully droid can save my hd2 from being sold. lets see.
1. I just can not bare the thought of having to deal with the quirkiness of Windows Mobile.
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yeah i know. winmo was a dissapointment for me.
If you are still interested in going Android please click on the link in my sig that says "Guide" at the front. It can help you out a whole lot. Plus I have links in there to two of the best guides on installing Android to your HD2. My guide is meant to be more of a educational tool than a tutorial on how to flash Android or WP7.
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yeah i'm thking about installing gingerbread 2.3.2. it looks very sleek and modern, unlike the other droid builds that are horrible, that look like win '95 and look so nerdy. and thats for the positive feedback. i will install droid. and i appreciate you helping me. thanks, man.
zach.antre said:
I cannot accept the fact that you want to sell your HD2 (the only device that support so many OSs) before even trying Android.
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dont worry, i'm giving my hd2 a 2nd chance when i install droid. then i'll see if i'll give it the axe or breath of life.
There are Sense, Non-Sence and MIUI builds.
If you want an iPhone GUI you can always check MIUI builds.
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wow, theres more to choose from in terms of builds. i didnt know this. i will be chekcing this out.
Just explain me why do you have to post THREE post one after another instead of ONE?
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Just explain me why do you have to post THREE post one after another instead of ONE?
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if you dont like the way i post, DONT COME to my threads again. youre a pest. go away troll.
koolxx said:
if you dont like the way i post, DONT COME to my threads again. youre a pest. go away troll.
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Hi,
You should use the multi-quote button instead, thats why is there for. Dont offend anyone, thats one of forum rules. He mentioned about it, cause you should keep forumclear and clean.
Back to topic, if you looking for fast, smooth and stable rom, check that one I have in my sig. I use it for months now and Im very satsified. Only you know, what are you looking for. Every rom thread has description of it, what is working and what is not, screenshots and users personal feelings about it. For me instaling Android from scratch to fully working phone is about 20mins and its not difficult. Just read, read and read again. Good luck
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Hi,
You should use the multi-quote button instead, thats why is there for. Dont offend anyone, thats one of forum rules. He mentioned about it, cause you should keep forumclear and clean.
Back to topic, if you looking for fast, smooth and stable rom, check that one I have in my sig. I use it for months now and Im very satsified. Only you know, what are you looking for. Every rom thread has description of it, what is working and what is not, screenshots and users personal feelings about it. For me instaling Android from scratch to fully working phone is about 20mins and its not difficult. Just read, read and read again. Good luck
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using the multi-quote button is to my discretion. and the only one insulting anyone here is raven. hes one of the trolls on my other thread that insulted me. if you want to curtail insults, consult with him, not me.
anyway, back on topic. i checked out the rom you suggested. it looks nerdy, no offense. but i was checking out imilka's Gingerbread on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289
i like it a lot. but, the camera has issues. and its based on gingerbread 2.3.3.
i want gingerbread 2.3.4, but i want it looking like imilks'a gingerbread. how can i get gingerbread 2.3.4 installed looking like imilka's gingerbread? let me know and i thank you for your input.
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using the multi-quote button is to my discretion. and the only one insulting anyone here is raven. hes one of the trolls on my other thread that insulted me. if you want to curtail insults, consult with him, not me.
anyway, back on topic. i checked out the rom you suggested. it looks nerdy, no offense. but i was checking out imilka's Gingerbread on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289
i like it a lot. but, the camera has issues. and its based on gingerbread 2.3.3.
i want gingerbread 2.3.4, but i want it looking like imilks'a gingerbread. how can i get gingerbread 2.3.4 installed looking like imilka's gingerbread? let me know and i thank you for your input.
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Well, everybody got his own preferences regarding to rom. As for you question, you cant have Android 2.3.4 until imilka release update to his rom. Maybe if you ask in his thread, you should get an answer. Besides, there is not much difference between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4. Just small improvements and bug fixes. Give it a try, you want to sell your HD2 anyway.
koolxx said:
using the multi-quote button is to my discretion. and the only one insulting anyone here is raven. hes one of the trolls on my other thread that insulted me. if you want to curtail insults, consult with him, not me.
anyway, back on topic. i checked out the rom you suggested. it looks nerdy, no offense. but i was checking out imilka's Gingerbread on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289
i want gingerbread 2.3.4, but i want it looking like imilks'a gingerbread. how can i get gingerbread 2.3.4 installed looking like imilka's gingerbread? let me know and i thank you for your input.
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If you want 2.3.4 you need to go with Unofficial [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940684&highlight=Cynagen+Nighly+7"]Cynogan Nighlies for HD2, NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.7 , or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2. Now as far as getting the look of the Imilka ROM, well his ROM has the look you are talking about because it is based off of the Desire HD and that is the UI the Desire HD has. I do not know if you can get a launcher or theme like that on your HD2 but the chances are very high that you can. You will just have to go into the Android Market and grab some launchers and then look at what themes the launchers offer. Or you can always download a Android Kitchen and start modding the ROM to your liking. Also check out these two sections HD2 Android apps and thems and Android Themes .
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If you want 2.3.4 you need to go with Unofficial Cynogan Nighlies for HD2, NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.7 , or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2. Now as far as getting the look of the Imilka ROM, well his ROM has the look you are talking about because it is based off of the Desire HD and that is the UI the Desire HD has. I do not know if you can get a launcher or theme like that on your HD2 but the chances are very high that you can. You will just have to go into the Android Market and grab some launchers and then look at what themes the launchers offer. Or you can always download a Android Kitchen and start modding the ROM to your liking. Also check out these two sections HD2 Android apps and thems and Android Themes .
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hello once again, t-mac. and thanks for the support. i checked out the links you posted. the droids look good and similar. ok, i got some questions for you:
1) which do you recommend based on my needs of being very fast, no glitches/bugs, and long batt life?
2) i need launchers that look like the Desire HD. hopefully, there are for this droid.
3) can you tell me the advantages of 2.3.4 over 2.3.3?
4) and i see that you on 2.3.3. any reason why you wont switch to 2.3.4?
5) in imilka's gingerbread based on 2.3.3, why isnt the cam working? is there a fix for it?
6) is v2.3.4 the latest gingerbread version?
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hello once again, t-mac. and thanks for the support. i checked out the links you posted. the droids look good and similar. ok, i got some questions for you:
1) which do you recommend based on my needs of being very fast, no glitches/bugs, and long batt life?
2) i need launchers that look like the Desire HD. hopefully, there are for this droid.
3) can you tell me the advantages of 2.3.4 over 2.3.3?
4) and i see that you on 2.3.3. any reason why you wont switch to 2.3.4?
5) in imilka's gingerbread based on 2.3.3, why isnt the cam working? is there a fix for it?
6) is v2.3.4 the latest gingerbread version?
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1) I recommend Cynogan Nighlies for HD2 ( have not tried yet but will soon) or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2 (I have tried and liked it but I was using MAGLDR).
2) As long as the launcher supports the Android version which most launches support all Android versions including 2.3.4 then you can use them on any android device or Android ROM, you get the lauchers from the Android Market or do a Google search for Android launchers and download the .apk file and put it on your SD card and then use a file explorer in Android to find the apk and open it. Andropid will ask if you want to install the apk.
3) I really do not know all the advantages just yet but I know that you can get a couple of themes on 2.3.4 that you can not on 2.3.3. But i am sure there is more differences than that although I highly doubt they are very drastic.
4) The man reason is becaus I have been real busy around my house lately and have not had time to go to a WiFi spot to download some more ROMs. Plus I have been trying to get a Android kitchen up and running on my computer. But I keep getting a damn Bash.exe error saying cynwin.dll is missing from your computer and I have not been able to correct it yet. So you see I have been kinda preoccupied.
5) This I really do not know, I would have to be able to look at his ROM in a kitchen and also use ADB on it to see if I could track down the source of the problem, might would even have to decompile it. You have to remember the Andriod ROMs for the HD2 all come from other devices so they have to be modded to work with the HD2's hardware.
6) Yes 2.3.4 is the most resent Android phone release and it has not been out very long. You do have Android 3.0 Honeycomb but it is suppose to be just for tablets. But devs have been porting it to phones. The HD2 has a 3.0 honeycomb port but it is still really buggy still.
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1) I recommend Cynogan Nighlies for HD2 ( have not tried yet but will soon) or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2 (I have tried and liked it but I was using MAGLDR).
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hi, t-mac. at this point, i'm confused. i looked at the droids you recommended and to be honest, i'm just not feeling them. i just want a very fast and reliable droid where everything (including wifi and cam) works with no glitches. and one where i can install a theme that looks like the desire hd. if that means installing 2.3.3 instead of 2.3.4, then so be it. but i got to have these conditions met.
i know i'm asking alot out of you. and i appreciate your time. but i just ask for more recommendations based on my needs. thanks man.
I got my S2 yesterday and so far, am very pleased with it. Before it, I had a ZTE Blade, which was my first smart phone.
With the blade, I was still on 2.1 when 2.3 came out, my network provider put a load of garbage on the phone that really slowed it down, not to mention taking up valueable space. Bascially, there was an endless list of problems that needed addressing. As a consequence, I started trying out custom ROMs almost as soon as I got the phone.
With the S2 however, I ditched the standard launcher, put on ADW EX, switched in a number of apps instead of the Samsung defaults, but I can't say I've found any significant bugs yet that make me thing I need to go custom.
Everything just works (let's hope it stays that way!), which is a world away from where I was with my old Blade.
With that in mind, why do you use a custom ROM? I think it can be split into two areas, bug fixes, and nice additions. From my reading so far:
Bug fixes:
Shutter lag on the camera?
Nice additions:
Bettery battery life through new kernals
ICS! (ok this is a big one, if Samsung is slow with their update and there's a custom ROM that works well, that will probably be enough to tempt me)
Notification lights (I don't understand why all phones don't have this by default, I fell in love with it on my old Nokia 6300 and the blinking red light is ever present on my work Blackberry)
Deeper theming - I do miss my circular battery indicator
I'm sure you guys will help me add to the list. The thing is, what is the cost? With my Blade, I craved a phone that was fast and reliable. I seem to have that now, and if the custom ROMs introduce their own bugs or decrease stability, I don't think it will be worth it for me.
Let me know your thoughts, I'm not trying to start a flame war. This community is a lot bigger with so many more projects and ROMs going on, I'm struggling to get a handle on it all. Hopefully this will help!
I wouldn't buy Android if it wasn't for customisation through roms...that's what makes Android special!
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If we had not way to change roms, probably I had not bought an Android's phone.
I like to do it, i'm curious like every us!
Same as the answer i gave to the same question six months ago .
I want what i want not what you want on my phone .
Why is a question and therefore in the wrong forum .
jje
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Why is a question and therefore in the wrong forum .
jje
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Well, it's not a technical how do I do X question, but more of a general one, so I thought it was best here. I'm sure a mod will move the thread if they disagree with me.
To get
Better GPS performance.
Better general performance.
Better battery life.
No double click voice control.
No battery charge sound.
More animations.
Another theme.
It's like getting a new phone.
because I can
Because some freaking genius creat them from what the fcuking idiots from samsung made.
Because RACEPHONE!
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Just a few months ago I bought myself an iPod touch... I was thrilled with it! it was my first "real" mp3 player since my sony NW-HD5...
I Jailbreaked it... but it wasnt enough..
I waited to see how the iPhone 4S would come along.. and when it did I suddenly realized something..
People who buy Apple products are often ready to feel their products are outdated the next year...
Sure enough, Apple's hardware specs are "inferior" than most of the high end android devices.. but as we know their iOS is optimized to squeeze the most juice out of it.. until it gets unsupported...
So thats one of the main reasons I bought and Android phone, and customize it to its fullest... Today my hardware works.. OK.. but in the future, with better ROMS, more optimized to the specific hardware.. my device will be more alive than ever..
So basically... Apple devices just get worse with time... Instead.. Android can only get better.
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To get
Better GPS performance.
Better general performance.
Better battery life.
No double click voice control.
No battery charge sound.
More animations.
Another theme.
It's like getting a new phone.
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most of the mods in your list can be achieved by jkay super awesome work. You dont need an entire rom for it. I can understand a kernel affecting battery life but how does a rom do it? (apart from swapping a few apks out?)
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Because some freaking genius creat them from what the fcuking idiots from samsung made.
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really? what do you think these custom roms are based on? leak from samsung only
The voice of reason finally shouts at the general populace.
$1 gets you a reply
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most of the mods in your list can be achieved by jkay super awesome work. You dont need an entire rom for it. I can understand a kernel affecting battery life but how does a rom do it? (apart from swapping a few apks out?)
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You can do all of the tweaks that you can think of without a custom ROM. But the beauty of using a ROM instead of doing it yourself is that you get a full package of what the developers could think of and all the feedback from the users. So its a base to proceed your modding from. You also don't have to deodex the ROM yourself for easier modding.
Regarding battery life, it comes from bloatware and excessive logging that has been removed. Often ROM makers will also replace some of the stock apps with more battery efficient ones. For instance swapping apps that through a bug keeps the phone awake.
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I get bored with stock Android and I was looking for something new. Since SGS2 is still the best phone available, I flashed custom roms and I am sorry I didn't do that before - it is much better now.
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really? what do you think these custom roms are based on? leak from samsung only
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I said the create the best custom roms from stock roms full of sh!t that Samsung put in.
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I said the create the best custom roms from stock roms full of sh!t that Samsung put in.
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i fail fo understand what do you find ****ty in a samsung rom?
yes they could have made it more customizable like sense but thats about it. All custom rom chefs do is customize the sammy rom more. look at the features
mms removed from logs - i am sure most of us dont want it but there are some who use it. Understand samsung is creating this to please everyone.
I can give more examples. Moral of the story is lets credit the super devs here but lets not take credit away from samsung. They have done a decent job with this phone in all departments.
good question
I use custom roms on my SGS2 simple because I can...
Choice is an Android Thing
Because I want a change once in a while. It's like a getting new phone everytime.
Not entirely darkside. Still a HTC
Man, it's so boring. There are like 200 roms out there.
There is no excitement what so ever. If there is a rom on the market, it means it will work with my device.
My guilty pleasure is windows mango at the moment. (Galaxy s2 is uber slow compared to the mango.) Also idiot proofness is way better than the IOS.
I'll definitely use android at the moment but I'll keep an eye on winmo. If MS puts some effort on this operating system, me (the android fanboy) is ready to ditch the android.
The other thing is, I used to dislike i.e. Now I passionately hate it.
I'd happily watch i.e's dev's salty feet being licked by mountain goats for hours. With a pop corn bucket and a big smile on my face.
Rant over. Thank you.
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Not entirely darkside. Still a HTC
Man, it's so boring. There are like 200 roms out there.
There is no excitement what so ever. If there is a rom on the market, it means it will work with my device.
My guilty pleasure is windows mango at the moment. (Galaxy s2 is uber slow compared to the mango.) Also idiot proofness is way better than the IOS.
I'll definitely use android at the moment but I'll keep an eye on winmo. If MS puts some effort on this operating system, me (the android fanboy) is ready to ditch the android.
The other thing is, I used to dislike i.e. Now I passionately hate it.
I'd happily watch i.e's dev's salty feet being licked by mountain goats for hours. With a pop corn bucket and a big smile on my face.
Rant over. Thank you.
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fair enough man, i hear those phones are tanks like. really tho winmo? whats making you ready to ditch? ive always thought that it seemed so bland. just those tiles on the home screen like. that being said i dont know much else aside from quick looks in the shops like. care to enlighten me
how is the hd2 for flashing roms.. easy or slightly difficult/confusing at first
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fair enough man, i hear those phones are tanks like. really tho winmo? whats making you ready to ditch? ive always thought that it seemed so bland. just those tiles on the home screen like. that being said i dont know much else aside from quick looks in the shops like. care to enlighten me
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The reason is everything is so easy to access.
You can actually pin a part of an app to your homescreen. For example, you can pin a facebook group to your homescreen. You can do this for weather, stock exchange etc... apps. Makes life easier.
Messaging is perfect. Facebook, text, msn etc.. is integrated into 1 messaging app. Receive a text message, reply via facebook chat in the same screen/same conversation.
One email app does all. No need to install crappy yahoo mail app
On the flip side it needs developing. It is blend and boring as you said. I doesn't have much options to personalize your phone. And you don't feel like you are in control.
It is like IOS but much better.
Maybe the reason I like it because I can install android if I feel like. I wouldn't like to stuck with a winmo at the moment
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how is the hd2 for flashing roms.. easy or slightly difficult/confusing at first
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Almost the same as an android phone. Root it, flash new bootloader, install CWM. Then you just flash the roms with CWM. (nandroid development)
You can also try roms without flashing. Just copy the rom to your sd card and click on the executable file. Then it reboots to your android rom on sd card. But it will be slow. (sd development)
are you not worrid about getting bad blocks - from over flashing - dont know much about it tbh
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The reason is everything is so easy to access.
You can actually pin a part of an app to your homescreen. For example, you can pin a facebook group to your homescreen. You can do this for weather, stock exchange etc... apps. Makes life easier.
Messaging is perfect. Facebook, text, msn etc.. is integrated into 1 messaging app. Receive a text message, reply via facebook chat in the same screen/same conversation.
One email app does all. No need to install crappy yahoo mail app
On the flip side it needs developing. It is blend and boring as you said. I doesn't have much options to personalize your phone. And you don't feel like you are in control.
It is like IOS but much better.
Maybe the reason I like it because I can install android if I feel like. I wouldn't like to stuck with a winmo at the moment
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Fair enough man, thanks
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are you not worrid about getting bad blocks - from over flashing - dont know much about it tbh
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You just use sd version first to try the rom out. If you like it you can flash it to internal memory. On top of that I am not a flashoholic.
As far as I understand bad blocks usually occur in warm climates. Somehow android overheats the phone and it cooks itself.
Shouldn't be a problem in the UK.
thank god it only seems to occur in hot climates and not in UK .... I'm getting a hd2 soon and was worried about the bad block thing... good to know it should be fine
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I am an old wild fire owner, now using hd2, bought it after I ditched hd7,sgs,dezire HD. My wild fire is only 5 months old, still not a single scratch, full kit, 5 months warranty remaining, besides all those, its still hibernating in my shelf for about 2 months, it will be blaming my hd2 for it!!! Man hd2 have no words.. I silently laugh at ads by Nokia and Samsung about their wp7 phones.
I had all of em if I want, straight in my hd2. Wp7 sp1, android 4, dual boot, meego, Ubuntu, what else? Symbian/ tizen? Oh no devz, servers are filled with roms for hd2, not any more.
But hey I love my wildfire. Its a Jr.mandrake. ics?? Poor guy is building muscles for it too.. why can't I, if my brothers can have ics? More over I can handle android 2.3.7 smoothly, then why not ics, woooohooo .... said my wildfire.
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my hd2 comes on tuesday.. which roms do you recommend
its pre-rooted and is coming with android and windows phone 7
Miui developer version for weekly updates and eye candy
Cm7 versions like doimanx,hyperdroid for perfomance
Sense 3/3.5 for sense features like facebook integration or beats audio.
Or even android 4. Roms
I will personaly prefer cm7
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thanks for the help... i think ill try the sense rom for the beats to see if it works with my beat solo hds
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