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I am up for the $10 but the tethering is unexcusable

I am cool with a $10 surcharge for 4G. But $29.99/month for mobile hotspot? Well that is one thing I am not getting, but I was looking forward to it.
Once it gets rooted and tethering app, will sprint be able to detect I am using it?

Treefallingquietly said:
I am cool with a $10 surcharge for 4G. But $29.99/month for mobile hotspot? Well that is one thing I am not getting, but I was looking forward to it.
Once it gets rooted and tethering app, will sprint be able to detect I am using it?
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I doubt they can detect, but keep in mind that it'll tether devices much differently. It'll just put out a WiFi signal that'll suck up your 3G connection (it won't leech your 4G, and you can't get it to unless you pay or find a way to use their tether service free, which is very unlikely.) And trying to connect to a 3G phone putting out WiFi is not a pleasant thing, trust me. I can't even load Google with my phone at full bars, and I'm rocking a rooted Hero. If you need it or you're going to use it that often, just pay. Otherwise, wait until someone has a workaround, it'll be inevitable once the EVO is released

colemorris said:
I doubt they can detect, but keep in mind that it'll tether devices much differently. It'll just put out a WiFi signal that'll suck up your 3G connection (it won't leech your 4G, and you can't get it to unless you pay or find a way to use their tether service free, which is very unlikely.) And trying to connect to a 3G phone putting out WiFi is not a pleasant thing, trust me. I can't even load Google with my phone at full bars, and I'm rocking a rooted Hero. If you need it or you're going to use it that often, just pay. Otherwise, wait until someone has a workaround, it'll be inevitable once the EVO is released
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I just assumed I would be tethering a 4G hotspot. But the major question is can Sprint detect unauthorized tethering? I'd do it for $9.99 but thats it. I guess they don't want to lose overdrive sales is the reason its so high.

Treefallingquietly said:
I just assumed I would be tethering a 4G hotspot. But the major question is can Sprint detect unauthorized tethering? I'd do it for $9.99 but thats it. I guess they don't want to lose overdrive sales is the reason its so high.
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They cannot detect unauthorized tethering such as the WirelessTether app seeing as it isn't a Sprint App and they can't control its functions. They can ban it from the market but that's it. If you try to use whatever software that comes on the EVO for tethering, then it'll either deny you or charge you.
Is it for work purposes or just your general use whenever? If it's for work you can get it paid for, if you just want it to have it it isn't even worth $30 a month. I don't think it's worth the loading times at all, unless you absolutely need to wait. But that's just my 2cents. Whenever the EVO is released, check out WirelessTether and see how it works on yours, who knows you might find success.

yeah, i don't think we'll have a problem tethering with either usb or wifi using the 4g connection eventually. my theory is that with the ridiculously high popularity of this phone and positive press it's receiving, along with the upcoming release of android 2.2/froyo. what i mean is that the number of apps in the market is increasing rapidly and with flash support native i assume this means developers will port flash games and web apps to android with ease. so one of the new or existing developers for android will surely come up with an app to tether the evo, and since everything that passes through an app can be masked in some way to appear as "normal" data, we will get this free app option soon. it might require waiting about 24 hours after release for the phone to get rooted, though

Sprint Mobile HotSpot Free After Update!

So im checking out the 2.2 on the evo i just updated at work and decided to turn on the hotspot. By some miracle it works!!! I just connected 2 blackberrys and a Ipad to the phone. I just actived the hotspot on my rooted 2.2 and it works as well. I know for a fact that niether phone has it on the plan

Try it with 4g and let us know if it works please.

I got the update last night and tried the 4G hotspot. It does not work on Stock now.
Gives the same PCS login error 3G did before 2.2.

Lyiondr said:
I got the update last night and tried the 4G hotspot. It does not work on Stock now.
Gives the same PCS login error 3G did before 2.2.
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Yea i was expecting the same thing when i turned it on. But it works. i thought it was because of my rom but then updated the stores phone and i got the same results

That's great. I may not need to root, then.

They're going to charge you for it secretly.

Figure out how you did it, or backup the data for Sprint's Hotspot app with Titanium and post it here.

Plancy said:
They're going to charge you for it secretly.
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This is what I'm thinking....but not so secretly.

spidyspidey said:
This is what I'm thinking....but not so secretly.
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I'll ask I guess.

Plancy said:
They're going to charge you for it secretly.
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Im on the phone with Sprints NSS to see if its to good to be true.
My regional said to enjoy it while you can

i recall an article or press release that said that Sprint would prorate this. I will see what i can dig up for you guys

Ok so I'm pretty sure hotspot over 3g is free, they are only charging for hotspot over 4g. All this has been said in a few threads I have read, Just checked mine and 3g works but 4g doesn't. One of the threads that mentions this was Ava's 2.2 thread, I'm guessin he is correct, but don't quote me!!! Maybe try it a little and see if they do charge you first.

That would be very odd. They haven't been charging for hotspot over 4G because they couldn't prevent it, until now.
With 2.2 they added the ability to verify if you are signed up for the service on 4G.
Before the update today I could not use 3G hotspot but I could use it on 4G.
Now I cannot use it on either network without receiving the same login error.

Wait, so far in this thread it sounds like:
3G wi-fi is free
4G is not, either you cannot log in or they will charge/prorate it for you.
Has anyone else been able to verify anything? If anyone talks to a Sprint rep (I'm at work, or else I'd be on the phone asking) post their name so we can say they are the ones who told us this was true... so hopefully they'll tell us the truth or else look like a ****.
"____, why did we get 42090589 calls saying YOU said mobile hotspot was free over 3G/4G???"

Well remember guys, the leaked documents did say they were enabling 4g mac id verification, which would prevent 4g hotspot use without the proper credentials (the $30 hotspot charge unlocks that).
Think about it; the big data hog is going to be through 4g, as the higher the bandwith, the more your probably going to download. On the other hand, 3g's data usage is probably far less than that of 4g because of it's download limits. Of course there's going to be even more usage when your tethered to another device, but it's not like it's going to be gigabytes of data per hour as you wouldn't even have the ability to do so on 3g as you would with 4g.
It would make sense for Sprint to charge those who use more data (alike tiers) and allow those that don't with the ability to at least share their connection with another device. It's a win-win situation; Sprint gets to make their customers happy by allowing 3g tethering while still being able to charge its most active users, and we the customers get 3g tethering (not really important to me since I've had tethering since I rooted ages ago lol).

edtate said:
Well remember guys, the leaked documents did say they were enabling 4g mac id verification, which would prevent 4g hotspot use without the proper credentials (the $30 hotspot charge unlocks that).
Think about it; the big data hog is going to be through 4g, as the higher the bandwith, the more your probably going to download. On the other hand, 3g's data use is probably far less than that of 4g because of it's download limits. Of course there's going to be even more usage when your tethered to another device, but it's not like it's going to be gigabytes of data per hour as you wouldn't even have the ability to do so on 3g as you would with 4g.
It would make sense for Sprint to charge those who use more data (alike tiers) and allow those who don't the ability to at least share their connection with another device. It's a win-win situation; Sprint gets to make their customers happy by allowing 3g tethering while still being able to charge its most active users, and we the customers get 3g tethering (not really important to me since I've had tethering since I rooted ages ago lol).
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Makes sense to me, I was thinking that more people would be interested in tethering to 4G because of the speed is comparable (if not better) than DSL connections and slow (more like cheap) cable connections.
If this is the case, that's awesome, because the only reason I'd tether is to see a website that my phone had a hard time rendering (which should be nothing now) and to download something for the computer. And my city doesn't have 4G. But if I was in a 4G market, I'd still be happy with free 3G tethering.
I don't think you'll find too many people complaining, except those with non-Android devices. But that's their fault for not moving over to Android!

2 reps weren't sure, neither was their supervisor, we need a confirmation from a higher up.

pekosROB said:
Makes sense to me, I was thinking that more people would be interested in tethering to 4G because of the speed is comparable (if not better) than DSL connections and slow (more like cheap) cable connections.
If this is the case, that's awesome, because the only reason I'd tether is to see a website that my phone had a hard time rendering (which should be nothing now) and to download something for the computer. And my city doesn't have 4G. But if I was in a 4G market, I'd still be happy with free 3G tethering.
I don't think you'll find too many people complaining, except those with non-Android devices. But that's their fault for not moving over to Android!
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Lol, bet you wish you lived in centex... It's amazing how they have 4g there but not where I live in phoenix which is the 5th largest metropolitan area in the u.s lol.
Good thing about 3g is that at least for me, I get pretty respectable speeds; usually about 2mb/s down and .5 up. With that I can still stream videos and download things faster than a snails pace.

edtate said:
Lol, bet you wish you lived in centex... It's amazing how they have 4g there but not where I live in phoenix which is the 5th largest metropolitan area in the u.s lol.
Good thing about 3g is that at least for me, I get pretty respectable speeds; usually about 2mb/s down and .5 up. With that I can still stream videos and download things faster than a snails pace.
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How about now? Mine dropped 5 fold since a hard reset.

Hey, y'know, I've got a PERFECT solution to guarantee you get it for free:
Shut up and flash CM6.

[CLOSED/G2] T-Mobile won't support tethering at launch

So I was checking around to see if T-mobile will support tethering and I found this blog that was written today. No T-Mobile Tethering Support.
Here's what it says if you don't want to click the link:
"As many of you know, stock Android 2.2 supports tethering out of the box. However, the folks over at TmoNews have discovered that while this is the case, the T-Mobile G2 will not support tethering at launch. See T-Mobile's official comment regarding this below:
“T-Mobile does not currently support handset tethering or offer a tethering rate plan. Though tethering and Wi-Fi sharing will not be initially supported on the T-Mobile G2, we know that consumers are interested in these features and we are working to develop a solution to support them in the future.”
While this is disappointing, the good news is that T-Mobile appears to be working on a solution as they know people are very interested in this. Let's hope we all get to tether officially soon.
So folks, do you think this will happen? Do you think G2 owners will ever get the option?"

Root + WiFi Tether will fix that ASAP.

T-Mobile does not support tethering anymore
T-Mobile does not support tethering any phone it is against the terms and conditions of your contract.
That said T-Mobile also does not do take any steps to block tethering, they do not block apps like pda.net or easy tether. Smartphone data speeds will get throttled once you reach 10 Gigs of data usage.

-RotorDemon- said:
Root + WiFi Tether will fix that ASAP.
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Or just root.

atlp99 said:
T-Mobile does not support tethering any phone it is against the terms and conditions of your contract.
That said T-Mobile also does not do take any steps to block tethering, they do not block apps like pda.net or easy tether. Smartphone data speeds will get throttled once you reach 10 Gigs of data usage.
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Then T-Mobile should deploy SWAT team to kill whoever do tethering.

i have seen the settings.apk from the G2 and it had tethering option so it may work but they won't actually provide helpdesk support for it

It probably has the USB tether left in tact, Like most phones do now. The wifi tethering they remove.

Just an FYI: the reason why tmobile doesn't BLOCK tethering is because they *CAN'T*. There is NO WAY FOR THEM TO KNOW that you are tethering or that you have a tethering application installed on your phone.

carrier way of blocking tethering is to block/remove from market

CyanogenMod.
Cyanogen's already got a G2 build ready to go, if I understood one of his recent tweets... we just need actual phones and a root method.

I can't wait lol

i must have missed that tweet, that sounds awesome, we just need to get root on it and we're good to go, ENG build and stock build(root and un-root) just need to get device in hand and try a few things to get root

Has anyone tried to do usb tethering?
By apps or configuring the pc?
Similiar to this thread in the samsung vibrant section:
HOWTO: Tethering in windows 7 (no app needed!)
*I cant post link need mod approval

well my G2 demo does not seem to have the option, although the settings apk from the shipped rom thread had it when i put it on my slide, so no native tether on G2 which is upsetting as hell

PDA NET WIRED tether works on my T-mobile G2 on windows 7 64
does this interest anyone?

Yes thats good that pda app works, thx.
If thats the only way to tether then I have to buy the app.

smthkat789 said:
Yes thats good that pda app works, thx.
If thats the only way to tether then I have to buy the app.
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I'm using the free one just fine.

Tether and Hot Spots will be cooked into a rom and soon as we get some devs in here. No worries.

atlp99 said:
T-Mobile does not support tethering any phone it is against the terms and conditions of your contract.
That said T-Mobile also does not do take any steps to block tethering, they do not block apps like pda.net or easy tether. Smartphone data speeds will get throttled once you reach 10 Gigs of data usage.
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T-mobile may not "officially" support tethering but their tech support was very helpful
when I was having issues tethering my TM506 to my netbook back in 08

I went over 10GB last month and never even had my speed throttled. I moved and used my N1 as a wireless hotspot for about 2 weeks before I got my cable hooked up. I regularly go over 5GB without tethering at all.
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[Q] Samsung Tab Tethering

I am a newbie Android addict (ditched my iphone for Samsung Captivate w/AT&T) and LOVE it. I'm also new to this site so please forgive if this has already been covered but I couldn't find it.
I would love to get the new Samsung Tab as soon as it hits the U.S. market but no way do I want to pay for an additional data plan. Will there be a way to tether the tablet to my Captivate? And if so, how? I am desperate for an answer. Please, please someone tell me if this is possible or not? Thanks in advance!
Robin

what will happen is you are going to have to pay full price.. 649 for one with no contract. You can root it (captivate) and tether via wifi using tether app.... then when it (the Tab) gets modded to use voice (which I plan on) then you can mod that rom on and then put your sim into the TAb..
pretty much my plan except on tmobile.. and i would be tethering with my g1

This also is my plan, but on AT&T and tethered to my Aria. But this depends on whether or not the required phone hardware is installed on the US version and can be accessed with rooted ROM.

no6969el said:
what will happen is you are going to have to pay full price.. 649 for one with no contract. You can root it (captivate) and tether via wifi using tether app.... then when it (the Tab) gets modded to use voice (which I plan on) then you can mod that rom on and then put your sim into the TAb..
pretty much my plan except on tmobile.. and i would be tethering with my g1
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Hm? Is it confirmed that the US version would still have voice capability? Last I heard someone was suggesting to wait for people to take it apart to make sure the hardwares are all there.

dliao said:
Hm? Is it confirmed that the US version would still have voice capability? Last I heard someone was suggesting to wait for people to take it apart to make sure the hardwares are all there.
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AFAIK there will be WiFi-only and 3G version in various different flavours, as well as a CDMA version for Sprints aging technology.

dliao said:
Hm? Is it confirmed that the US version would still have voice capability? Last I heard someone was suggesting to wait for people to take it apart to make sure the hardwares are all there.
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If it can do 3g data I don't see how the hardware can not be there.
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knightnz said:
AFAIK there will be WiFi-only and 3G version in various different flavours, as well as a CDMA version for Sprints aging technology.
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Indeed
If you aren't going to use the data line, then tbh I'd just wait for the wifi only version. No reason to pay extra for something you won't use. You will still be able to use the wireless AP on the captivate to tether.

clubtech said:
If it can do 3g data I don't see how the hardware can not be there.
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Did you ever make a cellular voice call from a 3G-equipped laptop? No? Well thats because there is no audio in/out from the 3G module in a laptop. The wires are not there. Its definitely possible for Samsung to neuter the tab in that way if they want to...

Being charged for tethering?

I currently have a Vibrant and have unlocked the wireless hotspot that comes with the phone. I want to get the mytouch but T-Mobile is now imposing a 14.99 tether plan as of November 3rd. I do not use tethering enough to justify that expense, do you guys think we will be able to unlock the tethering that is built into froyo or just use some sort of app off the market to avoid paying the 14.99?

Pdanet is what I use on my wife's Vibrant.
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GentillyWoods said:
Pdanet is what I use on my wife's Vibrant.
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Hopefully that is something that can be used on the mytouch

If there is a will, there's a way

PolishDude said:
Hopefully that is something that can be used on the mytouch
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Should work as long as they don't gimp the market like AT&T has.
In either event, hacks to re-enable FroYo's built-in tethering should be trivial.

ATT GIMPED the market? how so I tether always I leave it on all night at hotels sometimes and no repercussions. Same plan no extra charge. unless they changed something and im grandfathered in with my old 4 year unlimited internet plan.

sdlopez83 said:
ATT GIMPED the market? how so I tether always I leave it on all night at hotels sometimes and no repercussions. Same plan no extra charge. unless they changed something and im grandfathered in with my old 4 year unlimited internet plan.
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Yes, gimped. As in, you can't install un-trusted sources. It's an option on every other android handset, except those from AT&T. They pretty much took the best part about Android and neutered it.
Are you rooted? I'm talking about stock settings, where you can't get at the option to change it. Of course, rooting is another story, but having the android market being the only official source for apps sucks ass.

Speaking as an employee of T-mobile, I am seriously confused as to how the company is going to implement these charges. I just got the mytouch 4g as a champion device, and the tethering works just fine for me! I didn't change my account or anything, but then again I am not on a standard account. Now, I doubt that the phone automatically disables the feature when it detects an account without the tethering feature, but maybe T-Mo has something up their sleeve. They like to leave us in the dark with the important details.
Edit: Also didn't consider that maybe it's something to do with the champion device itself. Perhaps they left it unlocked for us to screw with, but I'll test a retail unit soon and see if there's a difference.