http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_aria_gets_the_android_22_froyo_update_ota-news-2153.php
It's here! Sort of...
Is this the southeast Asia version?
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Hmmm.
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Once again, we are waiting for ATT. But this is so pointless because we have the Full Gratia ROM with no ATT bloatware.
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Once again, we are waiting for ATT. But this is so pointless because we have the Full Gratia ROM with no ATT bloatware.
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Not pointless; there's the other 99% of the Aria users who would benefit from the 2.2 upgrade on the Aria. Of them probably 95% don't even know there are different versions of Android, but anywho...
My wife would be included.. I don't mess with her laptops, phones, etc, unless she needs me to, and her Aria runs great as is, but it'd run better on 2.2
does anyone know whether it's possible to use the Froyo firmware from the OTA update and flash it via a PC?
I'm using an Optus Aria (Australia) and I'd like to have Froyo, but would also like to keep it as stock as possible.
I think it's going to be a while before Optus comes out with the Froyo update.
Alternatively, is there any way to trick the phone into thinking it's an unbranded phone and then allowing the OTA update?
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Once again, we are waiting for ATT. But this is so pointless because we have the Full Gratia ROM with no ATT bloatware.
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This may be a stupid question, but that's been posted on XDA? If so, I'll find it myself, no worries; however, I was just curious as I just got a root Aria off of eBay for simply playing around with Android hacking, etc.
Just didn't want to take the risk of bricking my everyday phone or screwing something functionally to the point where it works but is annoying.
Hi everyone, I'm located in Malaysia and I've just begun downloading the Froyo update via FOTA. I'll update this thread once the installation is complete.
For anyone interested, my Aria is stock 100%. Not rooted ever. My intention is to compare 2.1 and 2.2 on the Aria and see if there is a significant difference, although App2SD and Wifi Tethering are already good enough reasons to switch......
I'll post back again.
Well, I've updated successfully to the new Froyo. The experience wasn't bad or anything. If anything it was simple and quick. Once the update was downloaded OTA, the installation only took 3-5 minutes in which the screen would stay on for the most part (displaying a "syncing" icon of sorts). I did have a problem with the installation once it was done, the HTC Sense couldn't boot up. It just kept force closing itself when it couldn't load. To fix the problem I had to do a hard reset (this is why you should back up your data prior to updating). Once that was done, I was navigating my Aria with relative ease.
What are the changes I've noticed so far? Plenty! If you're like me and have never rooted your phone, you probably would've missed out on a lot (just like I did). Here's a list of what I've encountered so far.
1) Wallpapers for the "Lock-Screen" is no longer separate from your Home wallpaper. Might be a bad thing for some but I never really cared for it anyway.
2) Live Wallpapers are SUPPORTED now! Something I've been looking for a while. Now I can use timester on my Aria.
3) It has all the usual 2.2 updates like Wifi Tethering, App2SD, App Sharing, etc. Not lacking anything there.
4) New HTC Sense widgets (so far I've spotted a new SMS widget which is a lot nicer than the "Rolodex" widget)
5) Comes with Google Voice search, Google Navigation, Google Car Dock, New Gmail app and a host of other things.
In terms of stability, well its an OEM released ROM so I doubt there'll be any problems.
Well that was just my quick run through on the 2.2. Definitely worthwhile the wait and I'm glad its out now.
So how do I apply this to my stock Att aria??
Crispysaturn said:
So how do I apply this to my stock Att aria??
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This update was not meant for an AT&T branded Aria. It is for the Southeast Asia Aria.
PacoL250 said:
This may be a stupid question, but that's been posted on XDA? If so, I'll find it myself, no worries; however, I was just curious as I just got a root Aria off of eBay for simply playing around with Android hacking, etc.
Just didn't want to take the risk of bricking my everyday phone or screwing something functionally to the point where it works but is annoying.
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Well I'm officially an idiot (yes, it has been said before ), but the Liberated Aria Froyo ROM is from the Gratia and on Froyo.
Yes, that's pointing the obvious, but I'm sure people may have missed that (I clearly did, though I had no idea how/why... ).
So when this does come officially, rooting is lost? Or is it just a matter of time before a new method is developed?
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Rooting will be lossed but this update more then likely will be manual for at&t brands.
Signatures are fancy.
Guys, Just use the liberated ROM. The new hboot will just screw your rooting process over. OTA updates suck anways. AT&T bloatware.
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Guys, Just use the liberated ROM. The new hboot will just screw your rooting process over. OTA updates suck anways. AT&T bloatware.
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but arent some of the roms gimped in some ways?
i am rooted now, but didn't use roms since there always seemed to be something missing or something that didnt work quite right.
i might just do the ota update when it comes.
will i lose any data/apps with the ota update?
do i have to put it back to stock first?
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but arent some of the roms gimped in some ways?
i am rooted now, but didn't use roms since there always seemed to be something missing or something that didnt work quite right.
i might just do the ota update when it comes.
will i lose any data/apps with the ota update?
do i have to put it back to stock first?
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I used Liberated Froyo for a few weeks, but it was a battery draining, laggy, slow, gimpy WiFi-d piece of junk. Use CM! But if you like Sense, I don't know what to tell you. I would NOT recommend Liberated Aria Froyo.
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I used Liberated Froyo for a few weeks, but it was a battery draining, laggy, slow, gimpy WiFi-d piece of junk. Use CM! But if you like Sense, I don't know what to tell you. I would NOT recommend Liberated Aria Froyo.
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Me neither. But after a research I realized that it becomes slower because of the Live Wallpapers, even when you're not using them. I installed the LW zip on the stock rom and it became slow. So that's why the FROYO rom is the way it is. If someone could disable that I believe it could run a lot faster.
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I used Liberated Froyo for a few weeks, but it was a battery draining, laggy, slow, gimpy WiFi-d piece of junk. Use CM! But if you like Sense, I don't know what to tell you. I would NOT recommend Liberated Aria Froyo.
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I don't want to play the devil's advocate... but I wouldn't talk so down upon a great ROM since I have had no problems with it being slow and laggy, no problems with the WiFi (on both kernels), and my battery lasts just as long as it does with CM6 (about a day (18 hours) to a day and a half without a charge, depending no my overall usage) with a fair amount of e-mails and texts coming in, calls everyday, and moderate gaming and internet usage (I have WiFi set to sleep every 15 minutes, mobile data to turn on when WiFi is off, both GPS and network locations are on, background data and automatic syncing is also on)....
Maybe I'm lucky? ...
So while CM has it's quirks and advantages... don't just shoot down the other ROM...
EDIT: Oh, and I don't use SetCPU to underclock when sleeping.
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I don't want to play the devil's advocate... but I wouldn't talk so down upon a great ROM since I have had no problems with it being slow and laggy, no problems with the WiFi (on both kernels), and my battery lasts just as long as it does with CM6 (about a day (18 hours) to a day and a half without a charge, depending no my overall usage) with a fair amount of e-mails and texts coming in, calls everyday, and moderate gaming and internet usage (I have WiFi set to sleep every 15 minutes, mobile data to turn on when WiFi is off, both GPS and network locations are on, background data and automatic syncing is also on)....
Maybe I'm lucky? ...
So while CM has it's quirks and advantages... don't just shoot down the other ROM...
EDIT: Oh, and I don't use SetCPU to underclock when sleeping.
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is the bolded stuff options on 2.1, 2.2 or just custom roms?
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im still using pancake 1.5, why you ask? because i want to wait until the final sprint release of 2.1 comes out and we get a custom rom fully working and bug free. plus i have my phone customized the way i want it.
so who else chose to not use any newer builds yet?
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im still using pancake 1.5, why you ask? because i want to wait until the final sprint release of 2.1 comes out and we get a custom rom fully working and bug free. plus i have my phone customized the way i want it.
so who else chose to not use any newer builds yet?
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This isn't responding to your question, but I just switched over to DamageControl v1 and I love it. Pretty much every bug has been fixed, and since it's still Sense, it's possible to get the exact same customization that you had before. Just jump ship to 2.1
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This isn't responding to your question, but I just switched over to DamageControl v1 and I love it. Pretty much every bug has been fixed, and since it's still Sense, it's possible to get the exact same customization that you had before. Just jump ship to 2.1
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naw ill wait, thanks. i use a rom without sense included.
I flip flop between gumbo or modaco since they are so dang stable. Sometimes when I feel adventurous I will flash the new 2.1 Flipz rom. The main reason I dont stick with them permanently is because of little bugs that always seem to pop up and I also prefer to have all of my sprint apps working since Im payin for them.
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I am still on pancake. It works very well and I have it set how I like it (for now). I am very close to just taking the leap to one of the 2.1s though. Seems like they have most everything working well. Besides, we never know just how long it will be before sprint releases 2.1.
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I still use Fresh 1.0 because it has Rosie and it's set up EXACTLY how I want it and there are no bugs. I have tried out all of the new 2.1 Roms except the Legend and there are bugs in pretty much all of them. DamageControl is the closest 2.1 Daily driver I have found
Finally made the jump to damage 1.0 and everything works.
The only thing that will not function is Sprint VVM, and I think GVoice Dial has a problem.
Hell the full screen weather effect from HTC clock is worth the switch. Should see the iPhoners drool when I show them that.
Well, for anyone who's refraining from switching to Damage Control due to concerns about bugs, I'd say that DC1.0 now feels like it genuinely has fewer bugs than Sprint's stock 1.5 does. Really.
With the stock ROM, my bluetooth never worked reliably, my voicemail counter was stuck in perpetually-incrementing mode since late November, and I'm not even going to mention the hell and grief I endured having to pick my poison between HTC's useless keyguard and LockBot's "good cop"/"bad cop" weeks when it would screw up the phone every other time I unlocked it (making itself home, waking up on volume bar presses, etc).
I've now gone for 2 whole days without ONCE taking the phone out of my pocket and finding it unlocked (I deleted HtcKeyGuard* and use the stock Eclair (Flan?) keyguard instead). Google Maps doesn't keep going senile and forgetting how to show traffic unless I reboot. I get 1/4 the FC errors I got with stock (Astrid used to FC so often, I'm amazed it ever managed to work). And countless little things that positively drove me to distraction daily. Thanks to DC, I genuinely like my Hero again. How good is DC compared to stock? If my Dad had a Hero, I'd make him reflash this weekend. If my Mom had a Hero, I'd do it for her. DC1.0 isn't a toy to screw with before groaning and going back to a ROM that works... it's the real deal.
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Well, for anyone who's refraining from switching to Damage Control due to concerns about bugs, I'd say that DC1.0 now feels like it genuinely has fewer bugs than Sprint's stock 1.5 does. Really.
With the stock ROM, my bluetooth never worked reliably, my voicemail counter was stuck in perpetually-incrementing mode since late November, and I'm not even going to mention the hell and grief I endured having to pick my poison between HTC's useless keyguard and LockBot's "good cop"/"bad cop" weeks when it would screw up the phone every other time I unlocked it (making itself home, waking up on volume bar presses, etc).
I've now gone for 2 whole days without ONCE taking the phone out of my pocket and finding it unlocked (I deleted HtcKeyGuard* and use the stock Eclair (Flan?) keyguard instead). Google Maps doesn't keep going senile and forgetting how to show traffic unless I reboot. I get 1/4 the FC errors I got with stock (Astrid used to FC so often, I'm amazed it ever managed to work). And countless little things that positively drove me to distraction daily. Thanks to DC, I genuinely like my Hero again. How good is DC compared to stock? If my Dad had a Hero, I'd make him reflash this weekend. If my Mom had a Hero, I'd do it for her. DC1.0 isn't a toy to screw with before groaning and going back to a ROM that works... it's the real deal.
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You should work in advertising! Also loving DC1.0
I went from Damage back to Fresh. Fresh is more updated and clean. Damage has too many .odex files.
I can't get BT data transfer to work on 2.x with apps like BT File Transfer I get that lower library level error or whatever so I haven't jumped because that's the only reason I would other than that I can do without the pimped out more battery intensive Sense experience...but don't get me wrong I am excited for it...just gonna wait for the official however I did the radio update so we'll see how it shakes out when I do the upgrade lol.
Do the switch, there bugs are minor...I don't plan on going back to 1.5 ...
I'm pretty happy with DC 1.0 ...
I can't get BT data transfer to work on 2.x with apps like BT File Transfer I get that lower library level error or whatever
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Have you tried a recent (past few days) build of DC? I'm hoping to finally dig into bluetooth this weekend (as soon as I get NBAndroid to work with API >= 5), but it would be immensely reassuring to hear that someone who already knows how to use it has gotten it to work. Few things are harder than trying to simultaneously figure out how to use something AND figure out whether it's crashing because of something YOU did, or crashing because of a problem with the underlying OS/library itself.
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im still using pancake 1.5, why you ask? because i want to wait until the final sprint release of 2.1 comes out and we get a custom rom fully working and bug free. plus i have my phone customized the way i want it.
so who else chose to not use any newer builds yet?
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I use fresh 1.0, the 1.5rom. I like it b/c everything works. And I like visual voicemail and mms. I also depend on my phone way too much to have something not reliable.
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Do the switch, there bugs are minor...I don't plan on going back to 1.5 ...
I'm pretty happy with DC 1.0 ...
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I have used every 2.1 that has been deved aside from damage's( that one will be next) but just had to ruu yesterday due to phone freezing. I use my phone constantly and rarely have time to flash or root or anything else. I love the 2.1 roms and will flash again when I have time but for now I am staying with complete stock till I know that the complete lockups are over and it was not a phone issue. That way if I have to get it warrantied then it is not rooted and flashed.
BTW: every rom I used was amazing in its own way. My personal fav was flipz 2.0b.
I'm not sure why people are calling DCv1 unreliable but I flashed coming from fresh 2.0b2 and haven't had a single fc. Everything works and the speed is awesome. Apps2sd was automatic, handcent works great and I'm thoroughly satisfied. I can't imagine going back to 1.5 for anything.
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I'm not sure why people are calling DCv1 unreliable but I flashed coming from fresh 2.0b2 and haven't had a single fc. Everything works and the speed is awesome. Apps2sd was automatic, handcent works great and I'm thoroughly satisfied. I can't imagine going back to 1.5 for anything.
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Time to change your sig maybe? LOL just playin.
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I went from Damage back to Fresh. Fresh is more updated and clean. Damage has too many .odex files.
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me to Fresh 2.0 feels more refined to me I also don't really use the video record so no big deal and all the Sprint apps work not including VVM. Damage seemed to loose Sprint tv after a day and the verizon tab kept showing back up in the market. I would have to pull it put after reboots. Both are good roms don't get me wrong and it's nice to have a choice.
I'm still sitting on Sprint's stock 1.5 ROM (I thought it was called Cupcake, not Pancake?), mostly because I haven't had any real issues with it. See no reason to change. I suspect that after the 2.1 update, there won't be any more, and then once I get sick of 2.1 I might start flashing custom ROMs, for speed.
Still love Sense though. Couldn't use Android without it, I think.
Would enjoy an easy way (without rooting) to get the Sprint crapware off the upcoming 2.1 stock ROM. I don't care about NFL, Nascar, or TV, but want to keep Sprint Navigation. Also, a way to get rid of the HTC native apps such as Peep and the native IM application.
tduck: There is a ROM called Pancake, and it's different than the stock 1.5 Sprint ROM.
I'm currently using Pancake 1.5. I thought about using the newer builds when the dev's got Camera working but decided to hold off until the final release is issued by sprint, no real reason as to why.
This morning when I woke up to look at the time on my myTouch Slide I had a pop up saying there was a software update available so of course I downloaded it. After the download and install the phone rebooted and I received another pop up that said "Install complete. Thank you for choosing T-Mobile" does anyone know what the software update was for? I haven't noticed anything different.
Did you have the beta firmware or do you have the production firmware?
slide update
The update was the full release that will be on the phones for sale. Officially it was to improve performance and just the final build. Because it was the official final build you should now see more apps available in the market that are made for 2.1 and above.
FULL FLASH in your browser! That was a nice surprise that nobody mentioned...
nothing else major comes to mind. They may have added some htc sense widgets but Im not sure if I just missed them the first few days I had the phone..
mine didnt work
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This morning when I woke up to look at the time on my myTouch Slide I had a pop up saying there was a software update available so of course I downloaded it. After the download and install the phone rebooted and I received another pop up that said "Install complete. Thank you for choosing T-Mobile" does anyone know what the software update was for? I haven't noticed anything different.
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i recieved the same message and downloaded it but mine said install not succesfull. any one have any idea how i can get the update again?
TMO sent me a sdcard with production firmware a few days ago...does this mean I already have the update?
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The update was the full release that will be on the phones for sale. Officially it was to improve performance and just the final build. Because it was the official final build you should now see more apps available in the market that are made for 2.1 and above.
FULL FLASH in your browser! That was a nice surprise that nobody mentioned...
nothing else major comes to mind. They may have added some htc sense widgets but Im not sure if I just missed them the first few days I had the phone..
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Wait a minute...you've got the MyTouch Slide ahead of release? And it has Flash?! Way to go TMo. I know a bunch of people are underwhelmed by this phone because it's not a Snapdragon, but TMo is targeting this phone for the mainstream. If it runs smooth, I may just snap it up. But I'm curious about "Project Emerald."
who needs a snapdragon
My coworker has a Nexus and we run a lot of comparisons between my slide and his (n1). (we both work for Tmo)
-faster downloads according to speedtest.net app on MyTouch Slide
-better screen touch sensitivity on MyTouch Slide
-led camera flashligh apps for MyTouch Slide (only on Nexus if you root)
I personally feel the keyboard is pointless because swype and the android keyboard work so well... I would rather have a thinner phone.. but its still work buying. After a week or so I love the phone.
Camera quality is great! Not every photo will be the best because it is still a phone... but I have taken some really great quality photos.
I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this year which will add wireless tethering and hot spots..
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I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this year which will add wireless tethering and hot spots..
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A rooted phone is always faster than its stock counter-part, a stock G1 is much faster than a stock one...Even if both are on diff firmware.For ex donut roms for it pretty much superior in every way. A rooted MTS will be even faster, esp when various optimizations are applied to the stock ROM. A iPhone is fast but a jailbroken one is just better. Plus a rooted phone will allow you to really make your phone yours.
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TMO sent me a sdcard with production firmware a few days ago...does this mean I already have the update?
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nice my MM is keeping my update sd card from me! what size card did they send? 8gb?
froyo JIT benchmark
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A rooted phone is always faster than its stock counter-part, a stock G1 is much faster than a stock one...Even if both are on diff firmware.For ex donut roms for it pretty much superior in every way. A rooted MTS will be even faster, esp when various optimizations are applied to the stock ROM. A iPhone is fast but a jailbroken one is just better. Plus a rooted phone will allow you to really make your phone yours.
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I understand and have seen this hands on.. however.. how about all of the benchmark results with froyo and the new jit component.... they are blowing the doors off of previous roms, stock and modded i assume.. I havent read into this heavily so I hate to be missing something... but this was my point about why bother rooting when froyo should be achieving these peak speeds that were previously only achievable through rooting..
If a dev can beat froyos speeds, while providing full functionality and then some.. then sure I am game.. but perhaps android is finally reaching its full potential and maximizing its hardware.. and all of these developers can start spending their time on making better widgets! (one can dream)
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I. but perhaps android is finally reaching its full potential and maximizing its hardware.. (one can dream)
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i love android but i think it's far from reaching it's full potential. it will continue to amaze us and continue to make steve jobs cry inside.
motorjonny said:
I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this year which will add wireless tethering and hot spots..
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Come on t-mo will block tethering... we didnt alow it before why would we now because of froyo, come on use your head... I could be wrong but think of it like this...
webconnects 24.99-49.99/monthly
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tethering FREE
-What do you think a provider will allow?
So root is very necessary every time when you buy a phone from a carrier... its their phone and.... root = your phone!
I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this
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-What do you think a provider will allow?
So root is very necessary every time when you buy a phone from a carrier... its their phone and.... root = your phone!
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Blackberry and win mo phones ( HD 2) tether with t mobile and are not blocked... A very very low percentage of customers even understand what tethering is... So yes tmo would rather sell web connect... But no they do not currently block the phones they currently sell with tethering... Of course tech support will definitely not help you with it.
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I was told by two employees (one was a manager) that the MyTouch Slide would be the first phone that allowed tethering. The phone I looked at had easytether installed on it so that is why I asked.
They may just be saying that because easytether was on the market. Most of the rep's I have talked to have been a little loose on details with me (LIKE THE PRICE!!!).
That won't get froyo 2.2 for a long time. May be even a year
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That won't get froyo 2.2 for a long time. May be even a year
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And you would be incorrect. Expect it with tethering and wifi hotspot feature intact in the very near future.
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That won't get froyo 2.2 for a long time. May be even a year
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tmobile has even said june 19 expect something big for the slide they wont say what it is but it seems like it will be froyo
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tmobile has even said june 19 expect something big for the slide they wont say what it is but it seems like it will be froyo
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I was thinking the same thing, but why would they open their stores at 8AM instead of 10AM for Froyo?
motorjonny said:
My coworker has a Nexus and we run a lot of comparisons between my slide and his (n1). (we both work for Tmo)
I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this year which will add wireless tethering and hot spots..
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WAIT, a tmo employee openly confirming the slide WILL IN FACT be getting froyo? really? anyone else have trouble believing tmo is allowed to release this info?
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WAIT, a tmo employee openly confirming the slide WILL IN FACT be getting froyo? really? anyone else have trouble believing tmo is allowed to release this info?
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http://www.androidcentral.com/most-2010-htc-android-phones-will-get-froyo-2010
That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.
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That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.
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+1. Though I enjoy 'modding my phone' I don't need to sacrifice stability for it. I think the only reason I would root again is for SetCPU to underclock and save battery or if some crazy app came out that Google does not plan on releasing.
htc's version of android has been reworked quite heavily to use sense, for those who dont like sense, it cant simply be stripped out and reinstalling the stock launcher leaves more problems then it solves, anyone looking for a pure android experience will jump to an asop rom as fast as possible, htc has done a great job staying on top of their phones for once but are still lagging behind xda, its the whole inch and a mile thing
edufur said:
That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.
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+1 I never even bothered rooting after upgrading from the Hero to the Evo on Oct. 1st. My Hero was rooted and saw its share of custom roms but I'm quite happy with stock Froyo and the newest update.
I thought I would never go back to Sense after running CM6 on my Hero and some other aosp roms but I'm back to stock with the Evo and love it. Plus my wimax works which I do use.
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htc's version of android has been reworked quite heavily to use sense, for those who dont like sense, it cant simply be stripped out and reinstalling the stock launcher leaves more problems then it solves, anyone looking for a pure android experience will jump to an asop rom as fast as possible, htc has done a great job staying on top of their phones for once but are still lagging behind xda, its the whole inch and a mile thing
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That's strange, I'm running a stock rooted rom with sense removed and have not experienced any force closes... Although, I must admit I feel at times like my battery drains fast and I can't help but feel like its the excess htc processes draining....
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I've been running virus Rom with no issues and one of kings kernels, I do like to use the free teathering and extra battery life
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I feel like the stock root is good. I am able to get rid of the Sprint software with root. But I like to know I am able to test new roms.
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I like the latest Sprint OTA...thanks Sprint and HTC!
That said, my wife was not rooted and started complaining because my rooted phone operated much smoother/faster than hers. BTW, even rooted, she uses ADW and no Sense.
So I ended up rooting my wife and oh boy is she happy now.
I still like playing around with roms but I've limited myself to two: MIUI (still not quite there for me but it's a beautiful rom) and Vaelpak.
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So I ended up rooting my wife and oh boy is she happy now.
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Ha, awesome!
For those holding out on root & awaiting "Official 2.2 OTA", DON'T!! -> read w/in ->>
When I got my Evo, I wanted to wait for the official Sprint ROM/OTA upgrades because I wanted to keep my phone stock. I didn't want root to affect my phone's ability to OTA upgrade and get the latest and greatest from Sprint.
After many advice from others, I decided to root. This is where you will see the repeating theme - "I rooted and loaded a ROM and have never looked back", or "I rooted and upgraded the ROM from the dev section and have never been happier". I certainly agree.
The fact is, when (now IF) the official 2.2 comes out, you will get the EXACT OTA content here just as quickly (probably faster) and be able to flash to that if you wish. Most likely, at that time, you will want an enhanced version such as deodexed. It is not worth holding out on root just because you want the OTA.
With root, you are opening new options such as forcing the phone to roam only, make real/full backups, modify your phone both visually and functionally, and so much more. After root, battery life can certainly be improved by tweaking your phone (remove bloatware, keep unwanted services from starting, etc.)
When I got my Epic, I rooted immediately. I have been running DK28 since it dropped and enjoying what 2.2 has to offer. If/when the official comes out, I will upgrade. There is simply no risk of missing out.
So for you who are on the line, I encourge you to root and move forward. You will have a new world of options and enjoy your phone so much more.
Cheers.
It's true, and we're not that far from seeing a true Gingerbread port too.
Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
I was in the same boat a few months ago. I viewed "rooting" as a hack or purposely "damaging" the phone. Eventually, I caved in; everything is hindsight from that point. Now, I will NEVER use a stock ROM again. Having access to the system allows me to take control of the device that I OWN; not Sprint or Samsung. If I don't want and application on the phone, I simply remove it. If I want to change the appearance, I install a theme.
Honestly, if you own an Epic, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't root the phone. Heck, I'm not even using 2.2 for the lack of a stable GPS lock...
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Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
I was in the same boat a few months ago. I viewed "rooting" as a hack or purposely "damaging" the phone. Eventually, I caved in; everything is hindsight from that point. Now, I will NEVER use a stock ROM again. Having access to the system allows me to take control of the device that I OWN; not Sprint or Samsung. If I don't want and application on the phone, I simply remove it. If I want to change the appearance, I install a theme.
Honestly, if you own an Epic, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't root the phone. Heck, I'm not even using 2.2 for the lack of a stable GPS lock...
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I agree with most of this. But from my point of view, I don't even use it for the control, I use it cause it works better. Oh, and the themes. I just hope the devs and themers stick around a while, cause I have this phone for another 20 months :/
new devs and themers will come along. the cdma touch pro 2 is approching 18 months in age and when i stop by that forum, its just as busy as ever, and i dont even recognize the names of roms people are talking about, because the chefs that were cooking when i was rocking that have moved along, but new ones are stepping up in their place.
Installed TrulyEpic 1.2 last night in just a few minutes. No problems at all. GPS is fantastic (I thought it was working before, but now - ) Is it just me, or does the stock ROM limit the display brightness? I think it actually LOOKS better but YMMV.
It's comforting to know that I now have a phone that will probably never be truly obsolete for the next couple years as long as there are ROM builders out there.
but i tried to root using the one click and recovery and had issues it would tell me permission denied at the end after it reboooted, i used z4 to root and it worked fine, tried to use it again and still same thing, then installed rom manager and then try clockwork, nogo. so i took it all off and will jsut deal with it when it comes ota
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Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
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I'd agree with you, except that I've had all kinds of issues rooting my Epic, ranging from USB drivers that fail to install, various one click root scripts that error out, a cruddy usb cable from Samsung, and an inability to get Odin to even look at my phone crosseyed.
I'm not brainless ... but nothing about rooting and flashing my phone has been straightforward. After wasting hours wading through (volunteer-written, open source, karmically-blessed) inconsistent instructions, I've lost patience. I just want an official, OTA copy of Froyo that isn't going to brick my phone or waste my time.
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but i tried to root using the one click and recovery and had issues it would tell me permission denied at the end after it reboooted, i used z4 to root and it worked fine, tried to use it again and still same thing, then installed rom manager and then try clockwork, nogo. so i took it all off and will jsut deal with it when it comes ota
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I've never had this problem. There must be something wrong and it isn't the one click. Could be your USB cable. Make sure your phone is in debugging mode. The OP is 100% right. Why use any stock ROM? If we do ever get the OTA, our devs will make it better and in about 100 different flavors.
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I have been holding out but even my patience is tested...
It was tested even more today trying to find a way to root without a PC (as I don't own a PC... well I have one that runs Win2K and no internet at home... yeah.) I did download z4root but it never got past the first screen...it literally loaded for an 1hr the 1st time and 35mins the second before I got ticked and just uninstalled. I may be new to the android scene (long time winmob user that fled after testing a wp7 craptastic phone) but something just isn't right here X/ I mean really.... I simply want flash (outside of skyfire) and to wirelessly tether without having to pay ANOTHER $30 a month.... ...
So yeah, /rant
Ota can come ANY DAY NOW *looks angrily at the sky*
Epic is as Epic does
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I've never had this problem. There must be something wrong and it isn't the one click. Could be your USB cable. Make sure your phone is in debugging mode. The OP is 100% right. Why use any stock ROM? If we do ever get the OTA, our devs will make it better and in about 100 different flavors.
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yea it was set to debug , its the original cable that came with it. i have not tried it on a diff pc, it could be a vista issue
Good point. But unless Samsung or sprint announce the update is out. Somebody has to be stock just incase they quietly release the update.
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yep. Im staying on stock for the simple fact that my phone aint broke why try and fix it lol.
I recently flashed DK28, then converted to ext4 and the bonsai mod. Froyo means I can view more webpages and download the froyo apps from the market place. ADW lancher was slow on 2.2, but lancher pro works fine. Also I wasn't getting great battery life but it's back to normal after I set my screen brightness to automatic. Overall I'm happy with my decision.
I too was one that didn't want to root and I was paying for the sprint hotspot :-\ but once I got the first bill for $130 I quickly youtube how to videos on rooting the epic and never looked back. 2.2 runs great with my only bug being, on some calls out I couldn't hear the other person unless I put it speaker phone. I worked my way around this bug by just hitting the speaker button before every call then quickly hit it again to shut off the speaker. It takes very little effort and I'm happier than ever with my epic and I don't give a rats ass about the OTA 2.2
The reason i first rooted was for wireless tether and to get rid of all the bloatware. After that i found all these awesome root apps like ADFREE and ShootME titatanium back up and many others and i can now not live with out adfree its the best app ever!!
After trying wireless tether it was ok then mobile ap came along and i love it. And for this reason alone im staying stock and honestly this is the first phone that does everything i need and doesnt give me any issues even on stock rom. I did get a custom kernal i flashed a good amount of the 2.1 roms and didnt really care for any of them besides noobnls rom. i mean i like custom roms that are blank of extra bloatware and what not.
But yes i agree dont wait to root, you get so many added benefits to make your phone run fast and get many free apps that are ad supported but because of ad free they are like the real one.
Best decision to root.
And for any reason i need to go back to stock to take the phone in i have all the stock flashables on my sd card so i just flash them and its easy as pie.
One click root never gave me any issues with the samsung cord or with any other cords i have.
I agree, I just got tired of it and rooted and installed a custom ROM (Trulyepic 1.2). It's definitely nice. It's also nice to feel free from the shenanigans of corporations trying to do as little as possible to make money off you while maintaining PR.
I admit, it's a bit scary to do with your phone. I'm lucky in that I've gotten familiar with rooting with my Viewsonic Gtablet, but I have to admit that I was pretty nervous the first time.
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I'd agree with you, except that I've had all kinds of issues rooting my Epic, ranging from USB drivers that fail to install, various one click root scripts that error out, a cruddy usb cable from Samsung, and an inability to get Odin to even look at my phone crosseyed.
I'm not brainless ... but nothing about rooting and flashing my phone has been straightforward. After wasting hours wading through (volunteer-written, open source, karmically-blessed) inconsistent instructions, I've lost patience. I just want an official, OTA copy of Froyo that isn't going to brick my phone or waste my time.
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Hey dude, i haven't rooted my phone and I have the 2.2. rom on my computer... it was super easy to install. If you want the update without having to root, just pm me if you want it, and ill upload it and send u a link. with instructions.
I did the update and my GPS was fubar. I had to flash back to stock and now I'm scared to flash back to 2.2 for fear of losing GPS again. How is your GPS because I really liked froyo but don't want to jeopardize my GPS.
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I did the update and my GPS was fubar. I had to flash back to stock and now I'm scared to flash back to 2.2 for fear of losing GPS again. How is your GPS because I really liked froyo but don't want to jeopardize my GPS.
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My GPS was actually fixed by going to FroYo...but I had some miscellaneous issues, so I flashed back to DI18 and am on SyndicateROM with the Xtreme Kernel. I have to get rid of setCPU soon...1.2 GHz overclock is killing my battery
Headache after headache after headache since I got the Froyo OTA.
Lots of freezes causing me to pull the battery several times a day. Also the battery power drains so quick I can't even come up with a comparison. Then don't get me started the 3G going down all the time...this is f***ing ridiculous. I did root it but I have seen no change. I have even disabled the bloatware...anyone have any suggestions for me.
Much thanks in advance,
Doc
You can try odining back to DL09 or whatever, re-update OTA, and see if the problem happens again...
If not, I would just leave it stock and return it to verizon with the 1 year warranty
Ive had the same issue! I rerooted and flashed evil fascination and I am not having hardly any problems. Ive had a few forcecloses but nothing like what came with stock froyo
My girlfriend is having the same issue after i MADE her update to the OTA 2.2. Text messages dont get sent and it is very laggy. The whole phone is too slow to use so i plan on flashing a custom rom or going back to 2.1 with odin. What roms are pretty similar to stock that maintain that whole touchwiz feel?
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Did you perform a factory reset? That seemed to fix a few problems.
For starters, this is common. The stock Froyo update screwed a lot of people up. Next, simply rooting it doesn't *FIX* anything, all it does is give you the ability to run Apps as Administrator, giving you more power/control. So, you rooted it, that wasn't going to fix your issues. Flash a custom ROM. I personally recommend the Community ROM. If after flashing a different ROM, after wiping Cache, Dalvik Cache, and user data, etc. you still encounter the same issues, then yes, I'd exchange it.
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For starters, this is common. The stock Froyo update screwed a lot of people up. Next, simply rooting it doesn't *FIX* anything, all it does is give you the ability to run Apps as Administrator, giving you more power/control. So, you rooted it, that wasn't going to fix your issues. Flash a custom ROM. I personally recommend the Community ROM. If after flashing a different ROM, after wiping Cache, Dalvik Cache, and user data, etc. you still encounter the same issues, then yes, I'd exchange it.
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Common? Really?
About the same time as the ota froyo was released, verizon had a bunch of 3g & 4g data issues on their network (perhaps it was shortly thereafter).
Otherwise, I see as many posts about the surprisingly good performance of the current stock rom as I see reports of issues.
No offence to the op, but we have no idea how these rooted phones have been messed with before the complaints are conveyed...
So I agree with the suggestion to odin back to a stock pit/modem/kernel/rom and let the ota process repeat from a clean start. From that result, flash a solid voodoo kernel, enable lag fix, pick your favorite rom, etc...
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I am currently running the ota 2.2 froyo update...only thing I have done is root and debloat and the phone is very fast! Only issue I have is google voice search force closes.
I think the update is fast... but despite what rom I use there is still intermittent gps issues, voice and data issues even on the first warranty replacement. Dropped calls in solids 4 bar territory on stock or dev roms and 3g fading un and out even after the dmu fix. All issues never had before the update.
Waiting on a call to see if I can get a better replacement option. No interest in Palm, BB or the Dinc Droid Pro or DX they want me to take as a replacement.
Out of the DInc2 Charge and TBolt which is the best options in my fellow forum friends minds. Have my own looking for outside opinions to consider depending on the options I am offered.
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My GF is having OTA 2.2 pains also...signal issues may be due to network, but also noticed lag, camera issues (black screen and force closure when camera opened)...text not received...probably will root and flash custom ROM...if she lets me..LOL....
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I think the update is fast... but despite what rom I use there is still intermittent gps issues, voice and data issues even on the first warranty replacement. Dropped calls in solids 4 bar territory on stock or dev roms and 3g fading un and out even after the dmu fix. All issues never had before the update.
Waiting on a call to see if I can get a better replacement option. No interest in Palm, BB or the Dinc Droid Pro or DX they want me to take as a replacement.
Out of the DInc2 Charge and TBolt which is the best options in my fellow forum friends minds. Have my own looking for outside opinions to consider depending on the options I am offered.
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Download the app "gps booster". Seem to fix my gps issue... locks in quick and within 10ft. As far as the signal issue, I had the same thing until I replaced the stock battery cover. have yet to drop any calls and my 3g is alot better now! I am absolutely impressed with this phone since doing these little "tweaks"! O and I vote droid charge if your dead set on a replacement! Seems to have better battery and display over the other two.
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My GF is having OTA 2.2 pains also...signal issues may be due to network, but also noticed lag, camera issues (black screen and force closure when camera opened)...text not received...probably will root and flash custom ROM...if she lets me..LOL....
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I heard that! My girl is hesitant to let me do anything to her phone after she saw the learning curve i went through with my captivate haha
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Common? Really?
About the same time as the ota froyo was released, verizon had a bunch of 3g & 4g data issues on their network (perhaps it was shortly thereafter).
Otherwise, I see as many posts about the surprisingly good performance of the current stock rom as I see reports of issues.
No offence to the op, but we have no idea how these rooted phones have been messed with before the complaints are conveyed...
So I agree with the suggestion to odin back to a stock pit/modem/kernel/rom and let the ota process repeat from a clean start. From that result, flash a solid voodoo kernel, enable lag fix, pick your favorite rom, etc...
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I stated nothing about the the OP's 3G outtage, any of us who are techy-like at all or who pay attention know what that was about. I was referring to their other issues. And I agree, MANY people have great performance after updating to stock 2.2, while many others are also getting screwed up. It's just one of those things. The OP wasn't one of the lucky, so, either Odin back and try the update again, or go custom ROM.
Well I have a couple DInc2s coming next week.
Really have to send the love to all the Devs who have made the Fascinate fascinating. Just can't wait on Sammy and VZW to get the tools in the hands of the devs to make the most of these phones.
Almost went TBolt but don't want to extend the contract until there are more 4g phones out there.
Wife is excited about FFC so happy wife will be good for me
Would have preferred to stick with the Fascinate but a couple replacements later and even the great roms and kernels couldn't get it to where it should be. Here's hoping that good source drips for everyone soon.
So for free and no contract extension I'll check out HTC...
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I did OTA Froyo update on a stock fascinate and my battery also began draining rapidly, about 8-10 hour life in standby I finally figured out that it was the built in facebook sync that was doing it, I had earlier turned off all syncing then noticed fb synced new events to my calendar after that so I completely removed my fb account and now its back to the ~2days of battery life with light use I had with 2.1. Not sure if this is what everyone else is experiencing with battery life problems but its worth a shot. I haven't tried putting my fb account back up to see if it happens again, I'm going to wait until I get around to rooting to do that.
I swear I had these issues with 3g data out completely. This fixed it in 3 minutes. ESN Swap to repartition data. No BS need for another phone.
http://totalhack.ws/esnswap.html
Hope this helps.
Well... Been using the DInc2 for over a day now... Short time but very evident that there is a major issue post update on the Fascinate. Right back to the great download and upload speeds I had pre ed01. No ATT like dropped calls, etc.
Without voodoo quadrant scores on stock in the 1400 - 1600 range consistently.
Just a huge thanks to all our awesome Fascinate developersfor making it a great phone while I had it.
Hope the DInc2 developers are as committed and talented as this team. Right now they are working on getting perma root....
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