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This video review says it has "8 gigs of internal memory"
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1911516/htc_touch_hd/
Well, he obviously missed two words: "up to" ... HTC has the specs on their web page.
Eriol
He certainly says it has 8 gigs of internal memory but as far as I am aware it has a 512mb rom and is expandable with microSD, interesting but I would bet that he is wrong
Wow oh wow, 8GB internal Memory
Let's hope that it's should have internal memory, and this video is not a fake make up...
HTC plans to ship the phone with a 8GB SD card in the box.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/09/18/htc-officially-announces-touch-hd-3g-and-viva-devices
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Well, he obviously missed two words: "up to" ... HTC has the specs on their web page.
Eriol
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I don't hope so...
I was planning on atleast 16 or even better 32 gigs in the near future...
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HTC plans to ship the phone with a 8GB SD card in the box.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/09/18/htc-officially-announces-touch-hd-3g-and-viva-devices
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i am sorry, but this press-release is garbage: quad-hand telephone, 8 MB SD Card.... you should remember that anybody able to type on a keyboard is allowed to post a press release on internet! If it was written by somebody knowledgeable, he didn't take the time to read what he himself had written....
...i only believe to information posted on this forum...
Haha, yes that's awesome. A quad-hand phone, so only for people to share with a friend?
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i am sorry, but this press-release is garbage: quad-hand telephone, 8 MB SD Card.... you should remember that anybody able to type on a keyboard is allowed to post a press release on internet! If it was written by somebody knowledgeable, he didn't take the time to read what he himself had written....
...i only believe to information posted on this forum...
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well if you believe it HAS 8GB internal, over stated it HAS a 8GB SD card shipping, then believe away!
my 2 cents: it doesn't have 8 Gb internal, it doesn't have an SD card.
...It has a microSD SLOT SD 2.0 compatible where - today - you can put an 8 Gb micro SDHC card (....which i already have) and, in the future, up to 32 GB max capacity...
If - for commercial reasons - they would add a microSD card to any unit i would be happy but i doubt it: i already paid my blackstone in www.digitec.ch and this is what they expect to sell and i expect to buy:
Internal Memory: 288 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM
Memory Expansion: microSDHC
...which is not different from official HTC specifications!!!!
...and remember that they need to differentiate from the Iphone and if they would put 8 GB "ONLY" then "smart reviewers" will start say "the iphone 3g has more memory"...
Said this - this is just common sense. I have no direct information apart from HTC and vendors.
Hi guys,
Lately ive been trying to get Android running on my HD2…
Ive successfully flashed the HD2 to android friendly ROMs, and installed versions of Android to my SD card… but I cannot get it to run.
I have read some things about needing a certain SD (file system, or a certain type of card/partion size?)… can someone please tell me if my SD card is android compatible… if I can just format it or if I need another card?
The SD card I have is a SanDisk 16GB MicroSDHC. I thought I heard something about needing a “Level/Class 4” or something, but I don’t know what that means.
I hope this question makes enough sense, and someone can break it down for me.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
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Hi guys,
Lately ive been trying to get Android running on my HD2…
Ive successfully flashed the HD2 to android friendly ROMs, and installed versions of Android to my SD card… but I cannot get it to run.
I have read some things about needing a certain SD (file system, or a certain type of card/partion size?)… can someone please tell me if my SD card is android compatible… if I can just format it or if I need another card?
The SD card I have is a SanDisk 16GB MicroSDHC. I thought I heard something about needing a “Type 4” or something, but I don’t know what that means.
I hope this question makes enough sense, and someone can break it down for me.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
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your sd card is fine. I've ran many android builds off that microSD, which if I'm assuming correctly is the one that comes with the HD2. Do a full format, not quick (so uncheck that box in windows). The preferred allocation size is 32k. If that doesn't work try formatting with SDFormatter
Thanks for your reply mate.
It is the SD card that came with my HD2, but I have the Telstra Version (T9193), so im not sure if it shipped with the same SD card world-wide.
I have just done some more research on the Class/Level Numbers of these SD cards, and I think the Class/Level Number is marked on the card with a circle around it, if that’s the case I have a Class/Level 2 card.
Thanks again for your reply, hopefully once I format the card, I will have more success than I had previously had.
Cheers.
one more thing though... what filesystem should i format the card to?
cheers.
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one more thing though... what filesystem should i format the card to?
cheers.
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FAT32, always
Edit: Yes, SanDisk class 2 is the same card mine came with. I've heard of some people getting them with 2GB cards, but I think for the most part 16GB calss 2 are what most people got.
no problem, thank you for your help.
it says right on the box it comes with a 16gb sd card.. if yours came with something else then the rep or the store owner took the 16gb card out and replaced it.
some shady stores would do this and try to sell you the card it came with.
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it says right on the box it comes with a 16gb sd card.. if yours came with something else then the rep or the store owner took the 16gb card out and replaced it.
some shady stores would do this and try to sell you the card it came with.
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i have no doubt the card i have is the card i was supposed to receive, i just wasnt sure if it was compatible with android.
cheers man.
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it says right on the box it comes with a 16gb sd card.. if yours came with something else then the rep or the store owner took the 16gb card out and replaced it.
some shady stores would do this and try to sell you the card it came with.
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Tmous got 16gb cards. Euro got 2gb ones.
Corrections, and swift answer
Firstly, flash storage devices marked as class 2 or class 4 would have nothing to do with comptibilty. Flash storage classes are the specifications of the maximum theoretical limit transfer speeds for that type of flash storage device. Take a look at this wiki article to learn more at wiki secure digital class rating article. Next, the type of storage device needs to be specified as microSD rather than SD since they are different flash types. And lastly the proper terms for storage sizes need to be used. GB means Gigabyte which is 1x10^9 bytes or 8x10^9 bits as 8 bits=1 byte, and Gb is Gigabit. The problem doesn't lie in the syntax or intended use of, it lies in the dumbing down, so should someone be wanting to learn these things they are getting taught wrong.
And for the swift answer, no class never makes a difference on compatiblity just whether it has the suffix HC or not, which stands for High Capacity as is reserved for any storage amount of 4GB to 32GB in which case is goes to XC which stands for extreme capactity and is reserved for 64GB to 2TB(TB=terabytes). The only reason this matters is each type of suffix is actually signifying a new type of transfer protocol which requires a firmware upgrade to read the new format(key work firmware not hardware, as one example even the oldest SD card reader could read a 128GB card with a proper firmware upgrade, albiet at lower transfer rates). And the format fat32 is typically used as the standard external storage filesystem.
I hope this answers any and all questions, always remember, what your writing doesn't just apply to you and your not the only one involved. Your words reflect like a butterflies wings.
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Firstly, flash storage devices marked as class 2 or class 4 would have nothing to do with comptibilty. Flash storage classes are the specifications of the maximum theoretical limit transfer speeds for that type of flash storage device. Take a look at this wiki article to learn more at wiki secure digital class rating article. Next, the type of storage device needs to be specified as microSD rather than SD since they are different flash types. And lastly the proper terms for storage sizes need to be used. GB means Gigabyte which is 1x10^9 bytes or 8x10^9 bits as 8 bits=1 byte, and Gb is Gigabit. The problem doesn't lie in the syntax or intended use of, it lies in the dumbing down, so should someone be wanting to learn these things they are getting taught wrong.
And for the swift answer, no class never makes a difference on compatiblity just whether it has the suffix HC or not, which stands for High Capacity as is reserved for any storage amount of 4GB to 32GB in which case is goes to XC which stands for extreme capactity and is reserved for 64GB to 2TB(TB=terabytes). The only reason this matters is each type of suffix is actually signifying a new type of transfer protocol which requires a firmware upgrade to read the new format(key work firmware not hardware, as one example even the oldest SD card reader could read a 128GB card with a proper firmware upgrade, albiet at lower transfer rates). And the format fat32 is typically used as the standard external storage filesystem.
I hope this answers any and all questions, always remember, what your writing doesn't just apply to you and your not the only one involved. Your words reflect like a butterflies wings.
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Whilst your knowledge is great, the fact that you're unnecessarily bringing up an old thread from 2010 is not. I understand the need for 10 posts, and using your knowledge to help others in order to get 10 posts is the best way of doing it, but do it on new threads rather than old ones please.
Looking at the Anandtech review, I saw them mention that the Optimus has a Micro SD slot, in addition to the 16GB on board.
Is this correct?
No ti doesn't. It is a rule from Microsoft that all new Windows Phone 7 MUST have a built in memory.
SD card
piottone said:
No ti doesn't. It is a rule from Microsoft that all new Windows Phone 7 MUST have a built in memory.
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Yes, but a SD card is a built in memory! All HTC WinPhone 7 devices have "just" SD cards as additional internal memory, it's cheaper thand NANDs!
On engadget.com or pocketnow.com you can watch some videos about this. One user plugged a 32gb sd card in his HD7!!!
But I don't know if the Optimus 7 has a sd card or a NAND...
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No ti doesn't. It is a rule from Microsoft that all new Windows Phone 7 MUST have a built in memory.
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As the other guy said, false, look at the focus!
Seeing as the focus isn't being released outside the USA, the optimus is the best bet.
Anyway, the device is out, somebody must be able to confirm.
Actually the Focus is now available on Rogers in Canada as well...
And Samsung is quite generous when you describe your needs to them on their Direct phone line, and they provided me with an unlock code...
Has anyone discovered if LG Optimus 7 have a microsd slot?
Im sure it does however its not accessable without dismantiling the phone.
I wish someone would tear this badboy down and let us have a look inside.
Yeah me too! Most other devices have been ripped apart but i haven't heard anything about the Optimus 7
Yeah, this would be pretty important to me too, since its the only device with internal memory + microSD. If its easy to access this would be a very interesting phone since I need at least my 32GB of storage, better would be more.
LG Optimus 7 SD slot
Sebo1985 said:
Yeah, this would be pretty important to me too, since its the only device with internal memory + microSD. If its easy to access this would be a very interesting phone since I need at least my 32GB of storage, better would be more.
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I have this phone, the SD slot isn't presente becuase it's a Microsoft dictat for ALL Windows Phone 7 cellphones!!!!!
bye
TheJackall
Oh come on buddy, nearly every WP7 device has a SD slot, of course not swapable, but it is in there.
The Optimus 7 has 4GB NAND and 4GB SDRAM, therefore 8GB left over for a SDcard somewhere in there, but: where?
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Oh come on buddy, nearly every WP7 device has a SD slot, of course not swapable, but it is in there.
The Optimus 7 has 4GB NAND and 4GB SDRAM, therefore 8GB left over for a SDcard somewhere in there, but: where?
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Where did you hear it had 4GB NAND and 8GB in the SDcard slot? I believe you, I'm just curious. I am pretty sure all WP7 "have" to have an SDcard slot because the SD Card Association said WP7s support SD cards across the board (just not necessarily consumer accessible). Like I said, someone needs to tear this guy down.
I read it here:
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/...&utm_campaign=Feed:+pocketnow+(pocketnow.com)
Is that correct? Don't know.
But there's surely NAND in there, that's why it loads heavy duty apps way faster than other phones.
I'm buying this phone tomorrow, and will take it apart/provide pictures if there is enough interest. Let me know what you guys think!
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I'm buying this phone tomorrow, and will take it apart/provide pictures if there is enough interest. Let me know what you guys think!
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GREAT! I have 200% interest on this!
I would say you get famous within the various blogs and mobile sites
Absolutely interested here!
Sorry to disappoint guys, I do not possess screwdrivers small enough to open this thing up. I have a set of electronics screwdrivers going all the way down to Phillips Head PH000 but it would need to be at least a PH0000 to open those small little screws. Love the device though! I will pick up a proper screwdriver, but I don't even know where to go about looking for one in Canada.
Oh, what a pity. But shouldn't every DIY store have those?
I have bad news...I took the phone apart completely, all the way down to its component elements and there is no SD slot or card. The 16 GB is NAND and soldered to the board. I will post pictures I took in a different thread for teardown purposes.
I had a SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 card and I wondered if my Mango-tized HD2 would even recognize it.
It certainly appears to. I dunno, but that seems like news.
www passagestudio.com/images/64gbMangoHD2.jpg
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I had a SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 card and I wondered if my Mango-tized HD2 would even recognize it.
It certainly appears to. I dunno, but that seems like news.
www passagestudio.com/images/64gbMangoHD2.jpg
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Id say thats news given that 64GB Micro SDs didnt exist when our HD2 was born.
To be honest, i dunno what id use that much space for, i dont think id ever fill a 32GB SD let alone that monster!
There was a time when id have dual booted android, but i cant be bothered with all that now WP is pretty much perfect on the HD2,
Hi.... Just wondering... Did you experience any change in battery drain and smooth running of the rom after installing 64gig sd card ,
And which rom unr using currently...
This is epic for someone like me! I'm one of those people that fills up 16 gigs in no time flat! 32 sounds nice, but 64 gigs!!!! I'm in heaven, I need to get one. How much did the 64gb card cost you?
Any updates on whether this works yet? I would like to upgrade from 32Gb soon.
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Seems he has 64gb working, what's your battery life like with that card? I think SD card the main reason we all experience such different levels of life...
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I am on HTC hd2 I put a post somewhere saying that I am now on a dual boot with 64Gb Tf card in HTC hd2, works a treat
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I also saw a bid on YouTube for the Hd7 folks of someone stripping down phone and fitting a 64gb SD in.
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wow. amazing. does it mean that hd2 supports part of SDXC? can you use all of the storage volume;about 59GB?
I have mine split, but yes if you so choose, you can use all of the storage on the sd card, currently i have Everything working on the phone, running really smooth, only thing is that my carrier signal/reception is good, but for some reason the radio on this rom seems weaker than normal, Question for anyone that knows, is there a better one ready yet, I am on Orange.
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I have mine split, but yes if you so choose, you can use all of the storage on the sd card, currently i have Everything working on the phone, running really smooth, only thing is that my carrier signal/reception is good, but for some reason the radio on this rom seems weaker than normal, Question for anyone that knows, is there a better one ready yet, I am on Orange.
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THing with Radios is that firstly we have 2 different radios to deal with, and secondly different networks and signal strength areas will do better with different radios, so you may find that the latest and greatest radio is actually worse than the first radio available because its been stripped from a phone on say, the O2 network.
Trial and error appears to be the best, or ask folk on your network what they use, ideally in your own country and even better near you,
On Amazon,
SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 Memory Card with SD Adapter - Retail Packaging by SanDisk
Buy new: $160.00
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According to the SETTINGS|about page, I have 59.25GB Total Storage.
Battery life is not stellar, though I haven't really done any work to optimize that.
SDXC
Basically... All SDXC cards will work...
The thing is, this is how the cards are supposed to be shipped:
SD => FAT
SDHC => FAT32
SDXC => exFAT
Any SDXC card can be formatted as FAT32 to work with SDHC compatible devices. The OS "decides" how much of the storage capacity can actually be allocated.
Since microsoft probably took note of SDXC during development, windows phone uses a file format that either supports exFAT (which is a MS file format) or formats the cards in a file system that supports over 64gigs. Windows phone supports SD cards under 32 gig, so it supports FAT32 and FAT anyways (to be reformatted in the device)
Long story short, as soon as a device supports exFAT it is SDXC compatible. if a device supports FAT32, any SD card formatted in FAT32 works.
Will the 64GB SDXC card work with the original Windows Mobile 6.5 ?
Does exFAT work on WM6.5?
Wohooooo 64 Gb for what?
Yep got a dual booting 64gb SanDisk class 6 over here.
30.8 in windows
30.5 in android
(couldn't find a way to put more in android than windows b/c ad sd and wp7 nand.)
Battery drain seems the same. Check everytime I boot constantly to see if the current is -400 or -4.
Such a pain in the anus.
Go hd2!!!!!!!
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Yep got a dual booting 64gb SanDisk class 6 over here.
30.8 in windows
30.5 in android
(couldn't find a way to put more in android than windows b/c ad sd and wp7 nand.)
Battery drain seems the same. Check everytime I boot constantly to see if the current is -400 or -4.
Such a pain in the anus.
Go hd2!!!!!!!
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Doing the samething here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711310
Seeing as how Windows Phones uses the partition type exFAT, it'd be no problem picking up the 64Gb card since that is what it is formatted as.
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Doing the samething here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711310
Seeing as how Windows Phones uses the partition type exFAT, it'd be no problem picking up the 64Gb card since that is what it is formatted as.
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In regards to the SanDisk Ultra 64GB SDXC...over the last couple of days I installed the NexusHD2 v2.3 and set the card up with 8GB EXT4 and 52GB FAT32. It ran slightly slower than NAND but I adjusted the CPU speed to compensate and overall a darn good experience. My next adventure was to dual boot both NexusHD2 and Pdaimatejam's WP7.8 and I split the card pretty much right down the middle taken into account the 200MB FAT32 WP7.8 creates upon it being deleted and for one brief moment you have only 2 partitions before continuing to create the EXT4 partition. WP7.8 will works up to a point and then begins the reboot loop. I understand there's a way to image a smaller memory card onto the 64 gig card and that's what I will be doing next. In the meanwhile I did successfully load Pdaimatejam's ROM into NAND but the key here is that card must be formatted as exFAT; otherwise it too will reboot endlessly. My only use for Android are CoPilot Navigation and Google Navigation and Skype; otherwise I prefer Windows Phone for one reason and one only; it runs as smooth as silk but WP7.8 lacks what WP8.x now haves...good GPS Navs, what my Titans and HD2 have is customization and that is a sticking point for me in regards to upgrading to the Lumia 92x series.
Guys, newest sandisk 64gb microSDXC will fit Defy?
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile1-memory-products/sandisk-ultra-microsdxc-card
It will fit in nicely becuse it is the same size as the microSDHC.
It doesnt work out of box ;you have to format it in the phone..then you' ll get 59 GB of free space.
No, i dont have it but i have read about it and it works in htc,samsung..
According to specs, memory is upgrade-able only to 32gb.
Will a 64gb card work?
I think you should take the risk and test it yourself
So does it work? That´s a very nice sd card
the defy supports 32gb sd official. 64 gb not supported. I think for any phone 16gb is stable for space and speed. how do they fill up 32gb?!
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the defy supports 32gb sd official. 64 gb not supported. I think for any phone 16gb is stable for space and speed. how do they fill up 32gb?!
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http://androidcommunity.com/sandisk...working-on-multiple-android-devices-20110927/
There are also reports that they are working on many older devices for those wondering. Some include the EVO 4G, original Galaxy S, and even the HTC Desire Z (aka T-Mobile G2). With both old and new, smartphones and tablets being able to take advantage of the 64GB SD cards this is a good sign many more will have the same fate. We can only assume manufacturers didn’t state SDXC support because none were out on the market at time of launch, or maybe there are other reasons yet unknown.
At first insert the device may say corrupt or error, just reformat your 64GB card inside the Android phone or tablet and you’re good to go. While many are currently working, this doesn’t mean they have full support. The chance of the cards failing, getting errors, and possibly losing all your stored data is still a possibility so use at your own risk for now. Hopefully we see more 64GB SDXC cards soon and at lower prices because $219 is a bit steep for me. — Thanks Murray!
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SDXC cards use exfat file system. If defy doesnt support that then it probably wont work.
Ive seen reports of it being working on a lot of phones, so there's a chance it might work on defy, but the card needs to be formatted on pc first before using on phone and it wont work at full speed due to limitation on the old sdhc reader (sdxc reader is faster)
I'm asking to avoid risks ).
Why 64gb? Cause i have 32gb card and it have about 4gb left. Actually last few month i've forced to clean up card from time to time. Audiobooks, DVR, Navigation software, record lections on dictaphone... That stuff takes space but i've used not to worry about `if do i have avaliable space left` ). Also this card declares class 6, now i own Sandisk/32gb class 2, so it not just larger, it laso should be faster. Sometimes DVR+Navigation provides some lags, for example.
maybe the max is 32GB,class 10
you can buy but i thin you will see only 32gb space...
can defy uses class 10 sd card? i heard there is problem in taking picture with class 10 card...
read posts on XDA, yes it has a problem with 6 and 10 class
CM7 and miui can run fine class 10 cards now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133548&highlight=class+10
SDXC on Defy?
It really works on Defy. I own one for a month now. Cost 80€/106$. Absolutely no problems after format. 59GB free. About 6MB/s write, 16MB/s read speed. Have fun.
Greater than 32Gb?
Biggest I've used is a 32Gb class 10. No problems at all.
Android police posted a review. Looks good.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...c-card-huge-capacity-meets-impressive-speeds/
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This is funny yet strange. Why you think an article on a website has more truth than a forum post of a member? Both are written by a single person. Both can be faked or real.
The guy on the website used a newer Tegra device so his article is irrelevant for Defy users. The SDXC in my Defy works flawlessly for weeks now with 20GB free space left.
Of course you can ignore this. I don't care. But if you need space buy the SDXC and have fun.
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This is funny yet strange. Why you think an article on a website has more truth than a forum post of a member? Both are written by a single person. Both can be faked or real.
The guy on the website used a newer Tegra device so his article is irrelevant for Defy users. The SDXC in my Defy works flawlessly for weeks now with 20GB free space left.
Of course you can ignore this. I don't care. But if you need space buy the SDXC and have fun.
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I wasn't doubting your experience with the card, I was just posting another source of info about it complete with benchmarks etc.
Glad you like the card.
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