[Q] Anyone Developing ?? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Simple question....does anyone know if there are any people out there that are really developing stuff for this awesome phone.....sucks that we get not feed back on mod and stuff....best T-Mobile phone out and no one is even paying attention to it.....smh.....Cyanogenmod would be awesome

itzsmokey said:
Simple question....does anyone know if there are any people out there that are really developing stuff for this awesome phone.....sucks that we get not feed back on mod and stuff....best T-Mobile phone out and no one is even paying attention to it.....smh.....Cyanogenmod would be awesome
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devs have to have the phone in order to make things for it. I believe 2 people have it so far and are working on it.
The phones been out maybe a month, have patience

There are 4 roms in development thread, OC/UV kernel.... what else do you need?
This belongs in Q&A section, not development.

Yes... We have a oc/uv kernel. several roms. several developers.
Other known developers should be getting their phones soon.
[zinx from CMteam and enomther from ds/nexus one]
Satisfy your flashing needs with iced glacier.

Simple answer to your simple question: yes
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scoochv said:
Simple answer to your simple question: yes
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That's where the thread should have ended. I mean, the question was posted in a forum where several threads for ROMs are...same page even, just a couple threads down.
There is soooo much you can learn by taking just 15 mins and browsing the forums for the MT4G.

you
you are developing

What a disrespectful post.
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I know
sudo apt-get sense of humor

I meant the OP. But yeah, I remember waiting months with other phones just for a simple Android update.

Yes your right there are 4 ROM's to bad they are all mostly the same with a few different tweaks, just look at other phones that devs have completely different types of ROM's....and its not a disrespectful post because all I hear is about great devs working hard on ROM's for other phones yet I don't really hear much about them working on the mt4g, not saying they are not but its nice to hear that someone is working on something....why must you guys ***** about something so simple for no reason....sheeesh
And thanks to those with a simple answer..since that was all that was needed

You are the one making a stupid post. You have a question and then you answer your own question by saying there is no one "paying attention" to it. What other phone that has been out as long as the myTouch 4g has so many "completely different" type of Roms? Most Roms tend to be built off a few main sources with tweaks like you said, the super popular Moto Droid has about 4 of those tops.

Oh my God...listen no one forced you to read this post...get off your damn high horse...this a q&a thread....not a question then ***** about it thread....if you have no answer move on to the next post....the dudes from earlier answered my question perfectly also found out zinx got the mytouch4g thanks to that post...stop being useless or keep it moving..
Also I got high hopes for zinx...dude does wonders

itzsmokey said:
Simple question....does anyone know if there are any people out there that are really developing stuff for this awesome phone.....sucks that we get not feed back on mod and stuff....best T-Mobile phone out and no one is even paying attention to it.....smh.....Cyanogenmod would be awesome
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Anyone reading

Mod will you either delete or move this thread to general please.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

zinx is taking over as the CM retainer for the MT4G since kmobs unfortunately had issues with UPS and such. once a phone has a CM rom, so many others make a CM based rom. So be patient and in due time there will be a slough of roms for this awesome phone
@teamsilence hahaha nice man! way to integrate linux and humor

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[REQUEST DEVS] Some things to do

mirror solution
better webtop soluction
RADIO FM solution
better root solution
CM7 build
Sense Build
MIUI Build
Touch witz Build
HTC Sensation Keyboard Port for Atrix
native mvk and others good codecs support to webtop/mediacenter/phone
Modifications on MediaCenter?!(it is possible?!)
OC kernel
if anyone remember more post here
Requesting a dev to work on something without a payout is like going to a mechanic and saying, "yeah I want my car to have 800HP, but I am not paying you for it. just do it. "
If you are wanting this done fast, get about 2 grand into a paypal and be ready to drop it for someone to work. These people do this stuff for free! Stop demanding!
When something is available then it will be posted. If you arent willing to work on it yourself, stop posting. The devs know what the community wants, they are not retarded. I really wish these posts would stop popping up.
Kthnx.
stop do this =/.....I only want do a topic with all we want ...and reegroup here when its done too simplify
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better root solution
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204
90% of those requests are terrible. Why would devs waste time putting other manafacturers skins on our phone? If you want sense so bad, why the hell didn't you buy an HTC phone?
detroitjb said:
90% of those requests are terrible. Why would devs waste time putting other manafacturers skins on our phone? If you want sense so bad, why the hell didn't you buy an HTC phone?
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Thats the idea behind eval-'s thread. If people want to pledge money to it and a developer wants to pick it up it happens.
i requested help for a kernel without thermal throttling in Q&A because we are many with phone working at 50%...
if they help us i can buy them a coffee, no problem
There is already a touchwiz launcher floating around here somewhere so yea.
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malfuncion said:
Requesting a dev to work on something without a payout is like going to a mechanic and saying, "yeah I want my car to have 800HP, but I am not paying you for it. just do it."
Kthnx.
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Not that I entirely disagree people shouldn't ask to much of devs, but that statement doesn't work
a mechanic would do work on your car, and it would only be your car. A dev makes something once and everyone can use it. Surely you see a difference?
If you went to a mechanic and asked him to figure out how to make all of a certain model of car have 800HP, and he had the same model car, its a but of a different situation.
That said, whatever devs dev I'm happy with, just felt the need to point out the mechanic analogy doesn't suit this.
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Glad to see people still posting useless threads in the dev section
Can we get this moved to general?
You want it ? Learn to do it yourself... lots of info thats all easy to access with google. Mr. Clown please Close this useless thread
Another good thing is native mvk and others good codecs support.
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Glad to see people still posting useless threads in the dev section
Can we get this moved to general?
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You my friend should be a mod lol they are all pointless threads
EclipseX said:
mirror solution
better webtop soluction
RADIO FM solution
better root solution
CM7 build
Sense Build
MIUI Build
Touch witz Build
HTC Sensation Keyboard Port for Atrix
OC kernel
if anyone remember more post here
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Just by writing ' request devs' in the title of the thread doesn't make it a dev. thread. Patience is the key. Post things like this in general section.
Sent from rooted Atrix on 2.3.4 with unlocked bootloader using xda premium app.
firefox3 said:
You my friend should be a mod lol they are all pointless threads
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Not ALL pointless...
Atrix ~_~

ICS collab

I wish those 3 guys that building ICS can put together one rom...you know like a ICS collab ,that way we can have a full complete rom.... what do you guys think of that?
fineazbro said:
I wish those 3 guys that building ICS can put together one rom...you know like a ICS collab ,that way we can have a full complete rom.... what do you guys think of that?
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just have a look on the thread that is already there ...
I think that is the same exact topic for the post 3 or 4 below yours. All these ICS posts are getting ridiculous. I seriously wish google would have made it harder to root android phones.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G running CM7/franco.Kernel
dpeeps74 said:
I think that is the same exact topic for the post 3 or 4 below yours. All these ICS posts are getting ridiculous. I seriously wish google would have made it harder to root android phones.
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Agree.
Hard root = less noobs
Romonster said:
Agree.
Hard root = less noobs
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+1
That, or I wish one-click roots would stop existing. It robs people of valuable experience and knowledge of the platform when they can mindlessly double-click and be rooted.
I've read somewhere that Paul O'Brien has already root the Nexus Prime, so he was able to extract a dump (with Drew Garen use in his beta).
Sorry for my english
i don't get the griping about threads that are made here. this is the slowest forum of any phone i've used anyway. . .
dpeeps74 said:
I think that is the same exact topic for the post 3 or 4 below yours. All these ICS posts are getting ridiculous. I seriously wish google would have made it harder to root android phones.
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I somewhat agree with this. Getting tired of the development threads clogging up with "How do I reboot my phone?" and "Do I need to wipe my ass before flashing this rom?" questions.
People just refuse to read or research on their own anymore.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
Bradart said:
+1
That, or I wish one-click roots would stop existing. It robs people of valuable experience and knowledge of the platform when they can mindlessly double-click and be rooted.
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I agree with this. We get the same thing in the Shift forum. A lot of people with rooted phones that have no idea how it got there or what to do with it.
Braneless said:
People just refuse to read or research on their own anymore.
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This is the main problem. Having easy root methods is all fine and good if you actually research what you are doing. There's a tool on this forum called "search"... 90% of people's questions can be answered by using this tool.
Sorry for the off topic post.. ICS, blah blah blah
Sent from my Android powered Tenderloin
Yeah and I think this whole idea of telling everyone to get together and make a single ROM is completely retarded, in all honesty.
Part of what makes this phone great is its diverse selection of ROMs. All these posts about needing a single ROM show A) complete lack of patience, and B)likely little understanding of how the phone, kernel, root, filesystem, etc works at all.
I think bashing someone for asking a question or making a suggestion you disagree with is pathetic. You all act like you wiped the embryonic fluid out your mouth and started spouting code. I'd much rather be a noob than a snob. Do you not realize the more newcomers the better? Newcomers become old comers like the great devs we have today... so don't be a part of the problem by stiffening innovation and contribution. Be a part of the solution: be patient with pwople, encourage ideas, make helpful suggestions (like I believe they are having this discussion on the thread below this one)
Sent from my Nexus S 4G
Braneless said:
I somewhat agree with this. Getting tired of the development threads clogging up with "How do I reboot my phone?" and "Do I need to wipe my ass before flashing this rom?" questions.
People just refuse to read or research on their own anymore.
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Wait, you have to wipe your ass before flashing a ROM? ... **** ...
the OTA will be the first fully functional and stable ics. i don't think google have better dev.
i'm sure there is real genius on xda. but google work in team...
so the ics collab is not a bad idea.
and why not one-click-root? every one wants a fancy and better phone! what's wrong with that?
but you are right. no need to ask on forum how to. "root (phone)" on google and you find two hundred answers...
I agree with you too
nnamcha said:
the OTA will be the first fully functional and stable ics. i don't think google have better dev.
i'm sure there is real genius on xda. but google work in team...
so the ics collab is not a bad idea.
and why not one-click-root? every one wants a fancy and better phone! what's wrong with that?
but you are right. no need to ask on forum how to. "root (phone)" on google and you find two hundred answers...
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jeez im sorry for posting this on here, i didn't even know there were a thread like that already, but **** yall need to calm the f down
Well, with all due respect, suggesting or telling devs to work together is almost insulting.
Devs dont take lightly to people telling them what they should and shouldn't do. I'm not saying you're being demanding by any means, but regardless, theyll see the post, and more than likely think "Who the hell does this guy think he is, talking about how I need to work with someone else, so ICS is more complete"
Have patience.....they're working hard....on their day jobs first.
Bradart said:
+1
That, or I wish one-click roots would stop existing. It robs people of valuable experience and knowledge of the platform when they can mindlessly double-click and be rooted.
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Slow Down There Buddy, I Achieved Root With A 1-Click Out Of Fear That I Would Screw Something Up... We Are Not All Idiots.
To The n00b Army, Please Search The Forums/Threads Before Asking Questions That Are Allready Answered! You Make It Harder For Other n00bs To Find What They're Looking For...

Hey guys

I AM new to this forum but not new to android... I need to make 10 posts so I can post in development forums so ask questions, please! Oh yeah, and I need to post in development forums to help team freedom with icyespresso because it works but is really laggy for me..... thanks!
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
CyanModICS said:
I AM new to this forum but not new to android... I need to make 10 posts so I can post in development forums so ask questions, please! Oh yeah, and I need to post in development forums to help team freedom with icyespresso because it works but is really laggy for me..... thanks!
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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Are you a developer?
Yes......... but don't be fooled........ I'm not a very good one
By that I mean I couldn't make a ROM on my own..... at least not a very good one....
I like punctuation
CyanModICS said:
By that I mean I couldn't make a ROM on my own..... at least not a very good one....
I like punctuation
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Ahh well that's too bad lol, but you could maybe suggest and help right? That counts.
Yea, that 10 post thing is a bit annoying. I understand that it's probably to keep noob questions from spamming certain forums. But when I first joined though, I was allowed to make my first few posts in the developer forums, and I guess they changed that, so it seemed like I was asking questions, then ignoring people's answers. The developer forums are the main ones I like to post in though, as I spend the most time on them, and I figure, posting bugs/issues and testing things are the best way I can say thanks for all of the developers hard work.
Yeah, I'm a better helper than a developer but I've been brickin' and unbrickin' my phone for endless months . So that's where I've gotten most of my knowledge and experience. I always try the newest, most unstable thing and usually it kills my phone. Lol I think of the countless times that I have escaped falier and a broken phone. I enjoy testing new roms because it does help out a lot of people... I have spent countless hours trying out roms and most don't work.... but it for some reason is still fun!
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using xda premium

TEAM D.I.R.T RemICS-UX General Discussion/Chat

Starting this because no one has yet
Also to keep the development thread for this rom clear from non development tomfoolleries
Let me start of by saying this has to be the cleanest and most rock stable ICS rom for the OG EVO. My opinion of course :good:
I second ur opinion. This is/has been my go to rom since it was released by TEAM DIRT. Fantastic job guys.
sent using a freaking pigeon, with a note tied to its leg.
WOOT WOOT!!! Glad someone started this
Just want to say that I've been talking to Team RemICS (people who made RemICS-UX) and they're currently working on what they're calling RemICS-JB.......once they get it ready and we get a stable enough JB base, I'll port it over and we can enjoy it!
NOW let's get the discussion started!!!
Mazda said:
WOOT WOOT!!! Glad someone started this
Just want to say that I've been talking to Team RemICS (people who made RemICS-UX) and they're currently working on what they're calling RemICS-JB.......once they get it ready and we get a stable enough JB base, I'll port it over and we can enjoy it!
NOW let's get the discussion started!!!
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Sheeeeit, really? I'm stoked. As soon as someone figures out how to fix the camera we'll all have JB for good! Haha. Then google will send an OTA update the next day.
A friend of mine just got the SG3 and it was pretty funny to see his reaction to my phone. Mainly because he just upgraded from an EVO and knows nothing about rooting, roms, or modding.
MIND BLOWN!
Oh, FFS, is it REALLY necessary to have two threads for every ROM now?
Good grief!
Been my daily since the day 1.3 dropped.
*Sidenote* Has anyone seen this "Walkman" Clone app for other ICS ROMs?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonyericsson.music&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zb255ZXJpY3Nzb24ubXVzaWMiXQ..
Chirpout said:
Been my daily since the day 1.3 dropped.
*Sidenote* Has anyone seen this "Walkman" Clone app for other ICS ROMs?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zb255ZXJpY3Nzb24ubXVzaWMiXQ..
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Seen it. But you can always just pull the .apk from this if you wish to apply it to another rom
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jwitt418 said:
Seen it. But you can always just pull the .apk from this if you wish to apply it to another rom
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That's correct BUT don't forget to push libalbumframework.so to the system/lib folder too or else you'll get a FC or it might not even show up in the app drawer
HipKat said:
Oh, FFS, is it REALLY necessary to have two threads for every ROM now?
Good grief!
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To answer your question Hipkat if wish to call it that, this thread is for day to day discussions such as talking about the ROM in general....sharing screenshots, comparing setups, battery life...things like that! The ROM thread is for actual development! YES it may have a post or two that someone decides to post on there that isn't 100 percent related to development BUT it helps the problem of having a 200 page thread with about 50 pages of "check my screenshots yo" or "what kernels do you guys think I should use"
If you have a big issue with this or you're just mad because you didn't come up with it first, hit that triangle and tell the moderators how I'm such an EVVVIILLL guy and I need to be put in my place before I take over the world!!
HipKat said:
Oh, FFS, is it REALLY necessary to have two threads for every ROM now?
Good grief!
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apparently so based on the multitude of non rom related questions and comments. I think it's a great idea. I'm glad I thought of it. Thank me very much. Lol!
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.
Thanks for getting the thread started!
Sent from my ICS Evo via Team D. I. R. T.
I really wish Touchwiz still had the option to do the Holo style app folders stacking. I know there are other launcher options but I really like the Touchwiz UI.
I touch wizz all over that ui.
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.
Mazda this has been a rom I've stick with now for quite some time. Its also the daily on my wifes evo. Which is strange cause I used to flash about 2 diff roms a day.
Anyways...can we expect any more development with this? Not sure what else you could do, its pretty much great as it sits....but is v1.3.1 pretty much final?
I'd like to see Google now, now with the working voice incorporated in...maybe Google ears as well...just trying to throw some ideas out there.
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jwitt418 said:
Mazda this has been a rom I've stick with now for quite some time. Its also the daily on my wifes evo. Which is strange cause I used to flash about 2 diff roms a day.
Anyways...can we expect any more development with this? Not sure what else you could do, its pretty much great as it sits....but is v1.3.1 pretty much final?
I'd like to see Google now, now with the working voice incorporated in...maybe Google ears as well...just trying to throw some ideas out there.
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NO v1.3.1 isn't the final.......I'm working on CM10 and also waiting to see what Team RemICS does here in the next few days and I might incorporate some new features, just depends on which way they're headed and how much time I got
Thanks for throwing out ideas, I like ideas..hahahhaa
I use to like this rom on my evo, then I got a sg2 and I hate tw(idky).
But still, a great job on it Mazda and team dirt.
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I cleaned up thread. I suggest everyone act like an adult or next time infractions will be handed out.
This thread was created to keep chitchat, q&a, screenshots, and anything non development related but still remics related into one place.
Lets keep it that way.
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Papa Smurf151 said:
I cleaned up thread. I suggest everyone act like an adult or next time infractions will be handed out.
This thread was created to keep chitchat, q&a, screenshots, and anything non development related but still remics related into one place.
Lets keep it that way.
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I remember this one time....at band camp...
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.
Nevermind
Papa Smurf151 said:
I cleaned up thread. I suggest everyone act like an adult or next time infractions will be handed out.
This thread was created to keep chitchat, q&a, screenshots, and anything non development related but still remics related into one place.
Lets keep it that way.
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Thank you, Team DIRT member....

[Q] New ROMS for MyTouch 4G?

Hey all, i was just wondering if there are any new ROMS out or coming out for the MyTouch 4G? I've tried a whole heap of ROMS and i was checking if anything new came or are coming out. Thanks
Lol.
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invasion2 said:
Lol.
Sent from my HTC One S running ViperOneS!
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MartyMayhem said:
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Some people don't like these threads because there are a MILLION other ones like this.
MartyMayhem said:
Hey all, i was just wondering if there are any new ROMS out or coming out for the MyTouch 4G? I've tried a whole heap of ROMS and i was checking if anything new came or are coming out. Thanks
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Let me answer your question this way...yes, there are many different ROMs for this phone, but you're the one who's going to have to find out.
XDA is a developer's site and, as such, most people here are focused on developing new ROMs. They have allowed us, as guests, to participate in using their ROMs for our phones. However, the expectation is that, like guests in their house, we follow their rules, and rule number one is that we do a LOT of searching on our own before we ask questions. Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1820647 and you'll see rule one is "Search Before Posting".
I haven't been on the site long, but I found I have learned so much about ROM development just from reading the information in this site. I encourage you to do the same. Go check out the development forums (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1820647) and see the work that's going on. The most recent ROM development shows up first in the forum so it's easy to determine which ROMs are being worked on. Go into the threads and read the discussions there, as many testers/developers have written back and forth on the issues for that ROM.
The beauty of this site is that there's so many different ROMs to try out, and with the right tools (CWM or 4EXT) you can try different ones to see which one you like the best.
Most developers here will offer a hand if you ask questions that are relevant to ROM development, but unfortunately, asking a question like "is there any new ROMs out there" is just going to invite flame responses because it will be seen as "not bothering to read the threads out there" or disrespecting the developers' work. So, I encourage you to do some research on the site and learn as much as you can and thoroughly check out the forums.
But just a word of advice: you're the one who's going to have to put most of the effort in to finding out what's out there.
Look in the development section and download away. I think the best and most fully functional for this phone right now is the glacier-one
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tp2215 said:
Look in the development section and download away. I think the best and most fully functional for this phone right now is the glacier-one
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I second that.
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agreed
Glacier one I agree as well has been a great ROM but there are plenty out there that are flat awesome. Looking forward to trying the new Vipertouch that posted today.
Sorry
Bass_Man25 said:
Let me answer your question this way...yes, there are many different ROMs for this phone, but you're the one who's going to have to find out.
XDA is a developer's site and, as such, most people here are focused on developing new ROMs. They have allowed us, as guests, to participate in using their ROMs for our phones. However, the expectation is that, like guests in their house, we follow their rules, and rule number one is that we do a LOT of searching on our own before we ask questions. Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1820647 and you'll see rule one is "Search Before Posting".
I haven't been on the site long, but I found I have learned so much about ROM development just from reading the information in this site. I encourage you to do the same. Go check out the development forums (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1820647) and see the work that's going on. The most recent ROM development shows up first in the forum so it's easy to determine which ROMs are being worked on. Go into the threads and read the discussions there, as many testers/developers have written back and forth on the issues for that ROM.
The beauty of this site is that there's so many different ROMs to try out, and with the right tools (CWM or 4EXT) you can try different ones to see which one you like the best.
Most developers here will offer a hand if you ask questions that are relevant to ROM development, but unfortunately, asking a question like "is there any new ROMs out there" is just going to invite flame responses because it will be seen as "not bothering to read the threads out there" or disrespecting the developers' work. So, I encourage you to do some research on the site and learn as much as you can and thoroughly check out the forums.
But just a word of advice: you're the one who's going to have to put most of the effort in to finding out what's out there.
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Sorry didn't mean to annoy or piss anyone off.... i learned my lesson and i'll read from now on.
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Sorry didn't mean to annoy or piss anyone off.... i learned my lesson and i'll read from now on.
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i must add my 5 cents to this i for one have asked this question before ... i think what you might be asking would be what one is the newest project ... at one time i asked that because i had tryed alot of roms and found out 1 by 1 that there was a problem like something was not working and asked a question only to find out the rom was no longer being worked on and there was no fix .. i my self am looking to for a new rom for this phone something thats being worked on so i can help with testing and updates if any one knows a link would be nice
I thought I was the only one pushing this devise still.
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