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One of the worst screens I have seen on a high end device...

Finally got to play with an Atrix yesterday. Simply put, I was shocked at how terrible the qHD screen looked.
Banding was visible from arm length, edges are extremely jagged, colors (particularly green on black) look absolutely abysmal.
Personally, I would much rather have a traditional 800x480 panel than a 960x540 pentile panel. In a side by side comparison the screen on my SLCD Incredible is miles ahead. I guess Motorola was more interested in having numbers that looked good on paper than real world performance.
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This WRGB subpixel arrangement goes a long way in explaining the issues I saw... Actually, If I'm looking at this correctly each pixel does NOT have 5 subpixels, but 4. Quadrile anyone?

Ditto! I thought I was going crazy, hearing everyone talk about how good they thought the screen looked....it looks horrible imo....
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Same here
I was horrified how bad the colors were. Just install angry birds and check the colors. It looks all washed out and dull. The same is the case with NFS shift installed.
The text in the browser does look sharp though, i have to admit. But overall pretty disappointing.
Samsung S2 , please give us some hope here in the US, and soon!

Really? The worst screen that I saw was the Nexus S SAMOLED with its unnatural exaggerated colors and the lack of sharpness..

Having owned (for a short bit) an iPhone 4, a Nexus One (for 11 months) and having played around with a Nexus S for a week, I gotta tell you I really like the Atrix screen. I will admit that viewing it from the side blows...but how often do you do that?

spielnicht said:
Having owned (for a short bit) an iPhone 4, a Nexus One (for 11 months) and having played around with a Nexus S for a week, I gotta tell you I really like the Atrix screen. I will admit that viewing it from the side blows...but how often do you do that?
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As far as I know I don't see people using cellphones sideways.

While I'll definitely agree that it's far from the best screen ever, I don't think it's nearly bad enough to justify the number of complaints people have about it. Is it because it's the easiest flaw to point out?
Is the side view bad? I can actually see things fairly clear almost to the point of having the screen at an angle that I can't actually see the screen itself. Reading text gets impossible a fair bit before that I guess. If the viewing angle is limited on this phone, then I guess I don't often test the limits of viewing angles on other screens lol.

I don't know about you guys but I like the screen...lol, you guys must have better eyes our higher standards
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The brightness outweighs the lack in accurate color representation imo.
My iPhone 4 does a slightly better job of showing colors, but the Atrix is definitely brighter. I don't have any issues with the screen

thatoneguy247 said:
The brightness outweighs the lack in accurate color representation imo.
My iPhone 4 does a slightly better job of showing colors, but the Atrix is definitely brighter. I don't have any issues with the screen
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I used my phone last night walking the dog and it was almost TOO bright in the dark.
The screen is far from perfect, but text looks fantastic on white. Black text on white is probably the most common usage of a cell ...
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complain complain complain....the screen is great

everyone should refrain from biting on the next screen baiting post...

once again,
the biggest misconception of the atrix's screen is that its washed out. This is NOT TRUE. the screen is extremely neutral in colors. SLCD and SAMOLED all have extremely exaggerated colors and contrasts. Some people like it, some dont...its like arguing which is better..plasma or lcd.....

I'm pretty sure if you do some research almost all video enthusiasts would recommend plasma over LCD. But that's not only because of the colors but also the response rate differences.
SAMOLED has perfect blacks so of course the contrast will be higher (infinite) but the colors can also be tweaked to not be so saturated. So at least you have the option to change it, rather than having an unsaturated display that you can't increase.
MarcMaiden said:
once again,
the biggest misconception of the atrix's screen is that its washed out. This is NOT TRUE. the screen is extremely neutral in colors. SLCD and SAMOLED all have extremely exaggerated colors and contrasts. Some people like it, some dont...its like arguing which is better..plasma or lcd.....
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Add me to the list.....it is UNIMPRESSING @ best!!!!

i like plasma better......lmao

I think a lot of the issues with the display are due to lack of support for the resolution.
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turn the screen up to 75% brightness and tell me its no good i have had all phones and this is up there or the best

i like the screen just fine

I run mine around 70% and it's fantastic. I'll take this "washed out" display over the one on my Captivate any day.

Screen comparison: Samsung Galaxy S III vs the fierce competition

Another comparo of s3 is out guysss but this time its on the display.. .. ..
Just check this out ! !
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Scre...alaxy-S-III-vs-the-fierce-competition_id30435

What?

pikulu said:
Another comparo of s3 is out guysss but this time its on the display.. .. ..
Just check this out ! !
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I think you forgot to add something there...
What is it you wanted us to see?

enigmaamit said:
I think you forgot to add something there...
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something important is missing

Epic!

Can't you see it? He's showing how well the SGS3 displays whites compared to the Xperia S and One X.

BarryH_GEG said:
Can't you see it? He's showing how well the SGS3 displays whites compared to the Xperia S and One X.
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i can see big dots in whites

BarryH_GEG said:
Can't you see it? He's showing how well the SGS3 displays whites compared to the Xperia S and One X.
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Matrix style... there is no spoon!!

loll,i am sory guys in hurry i forgot to add the link
Its some kind of s3 fever
The link has been added.. ..

Here it is

pikulu said:
loll,i am sory guys in hurry i forgot to add the link
Its some kind of s3 fever
The link has been added.. ..
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despite fever you have posted a much required article

Uh oh. The fanbois aren't going to like that.

BarryH_GEG said:
Uh oh. The fanbois aren't going to like that.
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time to start yet another war
the article itself is pretty conclusive. RGB always have the better density /.

bala_gamer said:
time to start yet another war
the article itself is pretty conclusive. RGB always have the better density /.
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What's interesting is that the One X comes with panels from two different vendors, Sharp and AUO. The AUO panel is the one that's appeared on all the reviewers test units. It's got far better contrast, more natural colors, and cooler whites. Some of the *****ing about the One X display is from people that have gotten Sharp panels which are noticably warmer. I'm sure Samsung screens all the panels on their reviewer units too so the comparisons are fair.
Here's how the two panels looked side-by-side on the Sensation.
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This image is the best we can get, look at the image below
The 1st comparison clearly shows how good is the RGB matrix, despite the red area showing too much dots in s3 the mobile that is captured in that picture has almost same details.
The 2n comparison shows how good is the real blacks in s3 and infact the text looks much crisper. The hox screen simply couldnt match the blacks of amoled.
Do note that this is not the resolution we will be using for daily usage, the resolution used is far from the regular usage
if anyone missed the below image i posted a few days back(extracted from mobile-review.com) it tells a different story
which one looks sharper? judge by yourself

bala_gamer said:
This image is the best we can get, look at the image below
The 1st comparison clearly shows how good is the RGB matrix, despite the red area showing too much dots in s3 the mobile that is captured in that picture has almost same details.
The 2n comparison shows how good is the real blacks in s3 and infact the text looks much crisper. The hox screen simply couldnt match the blacks of amoled.
Do note that this is not the resolution we will be using for daily usage, the resolution used is far from the regular usage
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Thats why a rgb striped display can easily beat a pentile diplay interms of resolution but interms of contrast,amoleds are THE king

BarryH_GEG said:
Here's how the two panels looked side-by-side on the Sensation.
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The warmer ones looks totally different, samsung sure will have similar problems .

I am a bit confused here...According to gsmarena test note was the brightest amoled but here phonearena states that s3 is the brightest
Or this is because of the gorila glass 2 ????

bala_gamer said:
which one looks sharper? judge by yourself
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Which one looks more like the original image? That's what matters most. All the pencil pic shows is that the AMOLED displays are presenting the image differently than an LCD panel. That doesn't mean it's correct.
This video compares LCD2 to SAMOLED with mutiple subjects, at different depths, and in different lighting conditions. And each shot starts out by showing the original. It's a GN their comparing but the discussion is sharpness, not brightness, And with similar PPI the GN and SGS3's ability to display detail should be the same.

This is starting to get silly. I have seen image comparisons where i without doubt prefere the S3 over the One X. With this comparison it is the other way around.

Colors are washed on Nexus 4

Just received my Nexus 4 today and the color are definitely washed (not so popping) on the phone. I actually think they are sub-standard than other lcd screens. Anyone agree? Can a custom rom saturate the colors more? Is there a way to saturate the colors without a custom rom?

milkisgood123 said:
Just received my Nexus 4 today and the color are definitely washed (not so popping) on the phone. I actually think they are sub-standard than other lcd screens. Anyone agree? Can a custom rom saturate the colors more? Is there a way to saturate the colors without a custom rom?
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I don't agree. I think the colors look great. Color reproduction is just more accurate. AMOLED colors pop because colors are oversaturated. It's unrealistic and I prefer the colors on an IPS display. In any case, you'll probably get used to it shortly.

pictures so that we can compare with other people who have the phone

milkisgood123 said:
Just received my Nexus 4 today and the color are definitely washed (not so popping) on the phone. I actually think they are sub-standard than other lcd screens. Anyone agree? Can a custom rom saturate the colors more? Is there a way to saturate the colors without a custom rom?
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I think you have bad eyes

I've been dieing to get mine so I can compare to the Lumia 920 screen (which is absolutely gorgeous)

Yes Colors are washed out on Nexus 4 compared to Xperia S. And I'm not talking about Mobile Bravia Engine.

richteralan said:
Yes Colors are washed out on Nexus 4 compared to Xperia S. And I'm not talking about Mobile Bravia Engine.
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The colors on my device are not washed out what so ever. They seem to be pretty accurate, but not eye popping like amoled. If i try to view the phone at an angle, there is a yellow hue but that's it. Very happy with the screen

mchimney said:
The colors on my device are not washed out what so ever. They seem to be pretty accurate, but not eye popping like amoled. If i try to view the phone at an angle, there is a yellow hue but that's it. Very happy with the screen
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Well the Xperia S has just a LED-backlit LCD screen, not even IPS. I never liked AMOLED in any way.
Sony does have something that is superior to Korean companies.

The screen looks fine to me on my Nexus, although I find the one X's screen a tad bit better. No biggie tho
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milkisgood123 said:
Just received my Nexus 4 today and the color are definitely washed (not so popping) on the phone. I actually think they are sub-standard than other lcd screens. Anyone agree? Can a custom rom saturate the colors more? Is there a way to saturate the colors without a custom rom?
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Your too use to Amoled displays bro, I thought the same thing at first, coming from a sgs 2 then 3.
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milkisgood123 said:
Just received my Nexus 4 today and the color are definitely washed (not so popping) on the phone. I actually think they are sub-standard than other lcd screens. Anyone agree? Can a custom rom saturate the colors more? Is there a way to saturate the colors without a custom rom?
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I won't call washed out but colors on my Xperia TL look better. I checked videos and lot of pictures from smugmug and flickr. While I liked colors on Xperia better I thought Nexus displayed more accurate colors.

Here is a picture of app drawer. S3/N4/XperiaT
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Here is a picture of app drawer. S3/N4/XperiaT
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Judging by the chrome icon. Thats how green red yellow suppose to look like. The dynamic and standard option on the galaxy s3 make the colors over saturated. So naturally. Your eyes are use to seeing stronger colors. But thats not how they are like in real life.
I do lots of editing and photography.
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Ha those darn Amoled eyes, Coming from S3 i thought the same, but my eyes adjusted. and I prefer the sharpness of ips

I find the nexus 4 display to be fantastic. Not a single complain.
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I've had nothing but amoled too and thought the same thing. You'll get used to it after a few days, now I like the display on my N4 better.
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OP is used to amoled. This panel is absolutely gorgeous.

I have a Dell Ultrasharp for work and use the same wallpaper from Jellybean, the colors are definitely undersaturated on the phone.
Realistic colors mean wide color gamut, which means being able to do both unsaturated and saturated. The phone cannot do saturated colors well, which means it has a narrow color gamut and only looks realistic when its not showing an image with high saturation in it.

Wait for these kernel devs cook something up like on the GNEX, edit the contrast and things will be popping!

Yeah I'm used too amoled also and noticed the difference, the colors seem very similar to the Nexus 7 which makes me wonder if it's a color profile or something that can be IMPROVED (ie not 'fixed') with software updates, mods and kernels.
After a few days though, I definitely noticed the difference in terms of usability.. this phone is much nicer to use than the S3 was, and I'm not automatically rushing to the night mode settings whenever possible.

Does the screen have a bluish tint in the whites similar to galaxy s3?

have they improved it? I can't find any close picture comparisons.. Thanks.

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Looks better, but still there. I guess they're doing it to increase screen life or something, but absolutely hate that.
Once I installed Perseus on my Note II, I could hardly believe I'm looking at the same screen. Looks even better than iPhone 5 after calibration

yeah, but note 2 doesn't have pentile, doesn't it have a superior screen?

It does, yeah. But you can still see the bluish tint there. SIII/IV it's more greenish isn't it?
I have no idea why Samsung doesn't use RGB instead, is it because it isn't yet available for high PPI full HD screens?

tuxonhtc said:
It does, yeah. But you can still see the bluish tint there. SIII/IV it's more greenish isn't it?
I have no idea why Samsung doesn't use RGB instead, is it because it isn't yet available for high PPI full HD screens?
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I believe posters on here claimed cost reasons. too bad.. I prefer the overall design and build, screensize to handset ratio of the s4, but like the htc one screen..

That might not be apparent in normal vision though. S3 has noticeable graininess, but the pixel density on S4 should pretty much settle that IMO.
And I don't know if they took the screenshot with adobe RGB mode or saturated standard mode.
I love SAMOLED, but just wish if they could switch entirely to RGB. Wouldn't mind paying a few extra bucks either tbh if they implemented that on Note 3.

tuxonhtc said:
It does, yeah. But you can still see the bluish tint there. SIII/IV it's more greenish isn't it?
I have no idea why Samsung doesn't use RGB instead, is it because it isn't yet available for high PPI full HD screens?
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I don't think they can manufacture FHD 1080p yet. At least not in the amounts that the GS4 would demand at a reasonable price.

tuxonhtc said:
That might not be apparent in normal vision though. S3 has noticeable graininess, but the pixel density on S4 should pretty much settle that IMO.
And I don't know if they took the screenshot with adobe RGB mode or saturated standard mode.
I love SAMOLED, but just wish if they could switch entirely to RGB. Wouldn't mind paying a few extra bucks either tbh if they implemented that on Note 3.
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Yup, two issues: sharpness and color. It looks like the higher resolution overcame the less sharp drawback of pentile, but color tint looks is still there. need to verify what color mode the phone was in though.

welll, just got back from store. htc one's have multiple dipslay with different WB. but the s4 definitely had better WB in my eyes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40903338&postcount=225

Why is this thread even open ? Amoleds will always have a bluish tint. LCDs always have better whites but suffer on black levels.

KillaHurtz said:
Why is this thread even open ? Amoleds will always have a bluish tint. LCDs always have better whites but suffer on black levels.
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if you read my response, you'll see that the One has a more bluish tint than the S4.

Can we all agree ? The Screen is FANTASTIC! (And here's some videos to prove it)

Just wanted to voice how great this screen really is! I'm a G3, Note 3, S5, S4, Note 2 -
I was so excited for the G3 and then the screen on that thing had no VIVID colors! What a huge disappointment - it went back.
If you'd like to see how great this screen really is, TURN up the brightness, go here to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56100084&postcount=14 and grab those videos!!
Killer!

Samsung and Apple both have the best screens on mobile products. The LG G3's (QHD 2560x1440) screen is amazing but it uses IPS LCD screen while the Galaxy note 4 uses SuperAMOLED 2D screen.

I agree I had g3 and fixed my self to like it this screen blows it out the water
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To be fair, the colors on Samsung devices (by default) are vivid, but not accurate. Not sure how accurate the G3 is, but Apple screens are generally quite a bit more accurate than Samsung screens.
From what I've read the Note 4 has the option to use vivid or accurate color rendering, the accurate is at least as good as the iPhone 6 (plus the option to have the colors really pop.)

im excited to see screen today!!! g3 has good screen i think (thats about it imo though but good screen) so we will see!

So excited!!!!
So which wallpaper will anyone be using? Stock Note 4 or anything you have prepared to use for it? I'm spending so much time browsing 2560x2560 wallpapers but can't really decide which to choose.

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So which wallpaper will anyone be using? Stock Note 4 or anything you have prepared to use for it? I'm spending so much time browsing 2560x2560 wallpapers but can't really decide which to choose.
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Still getting mine setup but I really dig this stock wallpaper:
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To be fair, the colors on Samsung devices (by default) are vivid, but not accurate. Not sure how accurate the G3 is, but Apple screens are generally quite a bit more accurate than Samsung screens.
From what I've read the Note 4 has the option to use vivid or accurate color rendering, the accurate is at least as good as the iPhone 6 (plus the option to have the colors really pop.)
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Anandtech, Displaymate and others state the color coverage is the best of any device. Depends on the setting. Vivid is still an option.

i do love this screen, but i very slightly see what some people said about the upper right hand portion of the screen having more of a reddish hue than the rest. mine has that, but it's pretty slight and only noticable on white screens like in the menus, so i don't care much. everything else about the phone works perfectly so i'm happy!

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Still getting mine setup but I really dig this stock wallpaper:
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Oh wow! I love it. It looks awesome on the Note 4. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. :good: :good:

There appears to be some G3 owners in denial that their power hogging, low contrast displayed device is better and the N4 is a laggy while the G3 is super fast. This in contradiction of most reviews and my own experience.
G3 is a good device, but the display is a more than usual resource killer.