Which is better????Voodoo latest stable or Hardcores k10i...lets compare here... - Galaxy S I9000 General

Guys many people are fond of Supercurios voodoo and Hardcores Kernels...lets discuss and make it easy for people to choose from the best....

one man's poison is another man's medicine..

wellll i have tested the latest hardcore's k10i wid ext4all lagfix and its very good...no lag...and i m very fond of supercurios voodoo too..i had tested his test version and it ws fast too but i think it just lacked in the battery usage..i think so...bt i have not tested his latest stable version yet....lets c wat others have to say...

So me, Voodoo Final is much better than the RC. Not sure about K10i. I heard its good too.

Both are excellent Kernels. What I m personnaly doing is putting the voodoo first so that all partitions including /System get converted to Ext4 then put Hardcorer's K10i over it. this way I get the best out of both (hardcore doesn't convert /system and you have to ignore the conversion request when you first start your phone following Hardcore's kernel flash)

bouzoubaa said:
Both are excellent Kernels. What I m personnaly doing is putting the voodoo first so that all partitions including /System get converted to Ext4 then put Hardcorer's K10i over it. this way I get the best out of both (hardcore doesn't convert /system and you have to ignore the conversion request when you first start your phone following Hardcore's kernel flash)
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Wow I'm not sure about that but why not...

This does not belong here! And please, this is like comparing apples to oranges. Each one has its strong points.
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g00ndu said:
This does not belong here! And please, this is like comparing apples to oranges. Each one has its strong points.
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Exactly.
Please move this thread to the Q and A section.

bouzoubaa said:
Both are excellent Kernels. What I m personnaly doing is putting the voodoo first so that all partitions including /System get converted to Ext4 then put Hardcorer's K10i over it. this way I get the best out of both (hardcore doesn't convert /system and you have to ignore the conversion request when you first start your phone following Hardcore's kernel flash)
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Is it better now with the K10i over the stable voodoo conversion? Because i thought i'll be brave and try that too although it's very smooth even with the voodookernel..
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bouzoubaa said:
Both are excellent Kernels. What I m personnaly doing is putting the voodoo first so that all partitions including /System get converted to Ext4 then put Hardcorer's K10i over it. this way I get the best out of both (hardcore doesn't convert /system and you have to ignore the conversion request when you first start your phone following Hardcore's kernel flash)
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Hardcore does not convert /system? Anyone knows why?

g00ndu said:
This does not belong here! And please, this is like comparing apples to oranges. Each one has its strong points.
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as i said in d post...i like both the kernels... bt its just to help people to select their kernel in a better way...no objection to any of d developer...

If you got the ULK ext4 with ext2 mounts and unbounded you will get high scores in quadrant..
but currently i would say voodoo kernel is better and more safe.. /sytem is converted to ext4
IMO, I agree in saying, this topic is not something that should belong here

I've read somewhere , using idle for 9 hours , 0 % battery drain with new K10i 256Hz, if it's real, it's ****ing awesome... i got 5% battery drain on 7 hours on Wifi ON just try today on my C.M. 6.1 and i'm happy the same

ale0crysis said:
I've read somewhere , using idle for 9 hours , 0 % battery drain with new K10i 256Hz, if it's real, it's ****ing awesome
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Sounds really nice!
But didn't know that Hardcore doesn't convert /system. I think i will also try flashing voodoo first and then hardcore over voodoo...
OT: @ale0crysis: from your signature: "32 GigaByte Class 10 Sandisk"? Never heard of a 32GB Class microSD. Do you have the exact model?

I was on JPU with Voodoo but had problems with Skype calls. Voice was not clear lagging and can't hear each other even with WIFI.
On the other hand I was using JPO with Speedmod kernel, Skype was awesome, working increadibly..
But I am not sure whether it was kernel or ROM release affecting..

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Unable to flash Voodoo Kernel

Hey guys.
as title says. i am unable to flash Voodoo's kernel on my SGS.
I tried flashing with CWM and Odin and still didn't get it to work.
I hope someone out there can assist me fix this annoying issue.
It also didn't work when flashing Darky v9.2 resurrection, after flashing with Odin and booting for the first time and installing darkyROM manager from the market and choosing my options including Voodoo Kernel and save and exit then reboot to flash it i just get normal 2e recovery.
thanks for having the time reading my post
I have the same problem and no answer. So i changed to Speedmod ^^
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967363 -<<< 75 Klicks and no answer. Maybe Voodoo is not so popular as Speedmod
damn.....
this is really weird, and the weird part is how none even replied or commented on your thread!
this is sad.
lets hope that someone will shed some light on us
Yes 2 poor boys in the same boat
But for me it´s ok....
I´ve seen that nobody is interested that Voodoo runs at all SGS´s to the contrary to Speedmod where i get much support
Let's make that 3 poor guys on the same boat.
I have the exact same problem as susdiehl. Logs says model not detected.
All I read about it is that my MBR is corrupted. But still haven't found how to fix that.
Supercurio suggested to do this: dd if=/voodoo/partition_tables/8GB of=/dev/block/mmcblk0 bs=1 seek=446
This did something, and a conversion has started and completed, but then the phone wouldn't boot not even for hours.
Have you guys installed SpeedMod K13C? does this works well?
i have the same problem so i just use speedmode its works.
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i already post several thread before, no one actually helped, so you can search my thread. i have exactly same problem. if u find the answer, please let me know. thank you
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Yes im on k 13 c and everything is fine.no lagfix only the recommend tweaks.if i try to switch to ext4 with speedmod it works.
There is no reason for me to switch again to voodoo.
damn i see our boat is going to sink
regarding Hardcore's SpeedMod k13c its running great so far. I flashed it on the day it was released.
well the only thing that is annoying me badly is that i run on Darky's ROM and Darky himself optimise's his Rom for using Voodoo's kernels, and it really sucks that i can even experience what Darky recommends for his Rom's.
again lets all hope someone will show up and be able to assist us
Darky says take the Voodoo but the majority says this:
well thats true but i think Darky knows his Rom better.
you can check his first post on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814091&page=3055
i might try out DamianGTO Ultimate kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959696
Try it it was great to
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damn i just flashed DamianGTO Ultimate kernel and its SUPER fast lol!!
damn DamianGTO just released a new version of that kernel.
Grrrrrr
I've flashed speedmod and activated the lagfix. To be honest, I think I didn't needed lagfixes at all, because I haven't seen too much difference in use.
Anyway, it is done now. I'm sure later the difference will show up
Looks like voodoo is dead... Damians kernel is awesome
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its really sad how none can comment on what we are facing..
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have you tried darky's resurection?
try that or a full rom with repartition than flash voodoo
report back
you could contact supercurio again perhaps he is interested in finding out what causes that
btw i like voodoo alot had major problems with data on speedmod now i am on cm7 but i am hoping supercurio will add voodoo features to cm7 (as a seperated modded kernel) too
hey post 300 ;-)
cm7 ftw
samsung galaxy s cm7
archos a101 urukdroid
desire hd stock 2.2.1 :-(
susdiehl said:
Looks like voodoo is dead... Damians kernel is awesome
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His kernel uses ext2, which other developers refuse to use due to a possiblity of damaging your phone.
In my experience, ext2 isn't any faster than ext4, not that I can notice.
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[Info]some info for ext4

hello fellas
this was as pm for supercurio mentioned i cant send him one and cant answer/make a topic in the dev sektion so i decided to make a new topic in the general sektion if someone could give him the info ive got if he didnt knowed that, that would be nice
so the info ive got for you is:
a friend of mine got the nexus s (i9023) and i compared my sgs and the nexus s with the android system info tool cause i would like to know why its that bit better
1st thing i saw was that the 2 phones have exactly the same processor and gpu the only thing is that the nexus s got a few more sensors
so why its faster
at this point i looked at the mountpoints and what amazing surprise the whole nexus s runs on ext4 even the system, data, dbdata etc.
so my thoughts are that it could be worth to have a look at the nexus s sources cause of the same hardware of the phones i think that the missing features can be found there
im not a coder but im a linux enthosiast and more hardware interrested but i thought this could be usefull for making ext4 work on the sgs
so with the best regards
yours
sputnicyes
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Ext 4 Does work on the SGS, its called a lagfix, and anybody running a custom ROM / Kernel is probably using Ext 4.
unless i have misunderstood your post ???
sputnicyes said:
hello fellas
this was as pm for supercurio mentioned i cant send him one and cant answer/make a topic in the dev sektion so i decided to make a new topic in the general sektion if someone could give him the info ive got if he didnt knowed that, that would be nice
so the info ive got for you is:
a friend of mine got the nexus s (i9023) and i compared my sgs and the nexus s with the android system info tool cause i would like to know why its that bit better
1st thing i saw was that the 2 phones have exactly the same processor and gpu the only thing is that the nexus s got a few more sensors
so why its faster
at this point i looked at the mountpoints and what amazing surprise the whole nexus s runs on ext4 even the system, data, dbdata etc.
so my thoughts are that it could be worth to have a look at the nexus s sources cause of the same hardware of the phones i think that the missing features can be found there
im not a coder but im a linux enthosiast and more hardware interrested but i thought this could be usefull for making ext4 work on the sgs
so with the best regards
yours
sputnicyes
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I do not mean to be rude but you are approximately one year late with this idea of yours.
As far as I can tell the OP may have had one of three goals in mind when they put this post up:
1) The OP is saying that Ext4 would be a viable option for the file system on the SGS: Yes, this was discovered and almost universally implemented on custom ROMs and kernels here. In fact, searching for the term Ext4 in the i9000 forums brings up more than 250 threads where Ext4 is a keyword. The OP may even find some of them instructive.
2) The OP is saying that devs may be able to learn a new way to implement Ext4 on the i9000 by studying the file structure of the Nexus S: I would doubt that. The file system is the file system no matter the hardware it is mounted on, besides which everyone has already made very clear that as far as Android implementation the Nexus S and the SGS line are pretty much identical.
3) The OP was trying to illustrate WHY Supercurio doesn't accept random PMs: Mission accomplished.
lol i knowed that my sgs runs on that lagfix
but there are missing features in 2.3.3 and it seems that the the nexus s (also running 2.3.3 and the same processor) has that missing features implemented in the kernel
or im wrong what supercurio writes in his post about the ext4 lagfix on 2.3.3 for the sgs
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Try any Custom Kernel, Speedmod, Voodoo Stable, DamianGTO, Dark Core & many more. All have the option to convert all partitions to ext4.
Or you can try Darky, Docs, Juwe's or any other Custom Rom, The Kernels included with all custom roms usually support conversion to ext 4.
And yes ext4 on SGS make it Super fast. I use it personally & really like the fast response of ext4 compared to RFS.
Just try it. If you are on stock Rom I would suggest to try a custom kernel from Development Section of this forum to see how it feels. Search for any of the kernels i mentioned & follow the installation instructions there.
so let me get clear
supercurio writes here:
[KERNEL] Hacked Lagfix/Ext4 Samsung Galaxy S Gingerbread - JVB
that there are missing features in the kernel of 2.3.3 jvb
my thoughts are that these missing features can be found in the nexus s kernel sources cause it runs also an 2.3.3 release of android
Galaxy S is not as fast as NS because of bad samsung coding and bad framework implementation. Try CM7 on SGS and see it is as fast.
I now use with samsung s gingerbread - jfs filesystem and I can see it s faster than ext4 but still not cm7 fast (which has ext4).
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The best custom rom

Whats the best cystom rom so far
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AS asked a thousand time NON they are all individual .
Read the posts in the dev section decide what you want .
Preference is for rom kitchen build your own .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817703
jje
Poll with custom roms would be great tho
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cm7 ofc
I'm using Goatrip. Very fast, very stable.
You wont find the answer here, every rom is special and you just need to test and try. By testing you also learn how to safely manage your phone, and this knowlege is must-have i you are planning to use custom roms. Enjoy your testing.
for me!
most cyanogenmod 7
black_serafan said:
Whats the best cystom rom so far
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If you are really interested, search for the thread with a list of roms, then create a poll based on that list...
The best rom is the one that makes your phone look "cooler", adds nice features and got NO BUGS....
One tip for you: When testing custom roms (and kernels) stay on RFS, dont go converting the file system just yet.
The best custom rom / optimized kernel is the one that makes your tel. smooth and responsive WITHOUT the need off LAGFIXES / File system conversions...SPECIALLY on Gingerbread which got a more optimized RFS
For example: Criskelo's Rom
The best custom rom / optimized kernel is the one that makes your tel. smooth and responsive WITHOUT the need off LAGFIXES / File system conversions...SPECIALLY on Gingerbread which got a more optimized RFS
And thats called the SGS 2
jje
Or Stock JS8 on SGS
I have Gb Tweaky_ROM_RC2 and it's very fast and stabe.
black_serafan said:
whats the best cystom rom so far
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is miui rom
Grooby said:
Or Stock JS8 on SGS
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Other than the fact that JPY is still proven to be the fastest 2.2.1 firmware for the SGS.
stock deodexed JVB with tweaks (glow, crt off, tw4.0, cwm, 5-lock, ext menu)
so yeah it's like my own personalized rom
betoNL said:
If you are really interested, search for the thread with a list of roms, then create a poll based on that list...
The best rom is the one that makes your phone look "cooler", adds nice features and got NO BUGS....
One tip for you: When testing custom roms (and kernels) stay on RFS, dont go converting the file system just yet.
The best custom rom / optimized kernel is the one that makes your tel. smooth and responsive WITHOUT the need off LAGFIXES / File system conversions...SPECIALLY on Gingerbread which got a more optimized RFS
For example: Criskelo's Rom
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So I did a first time flash to darky's 9.5 the other day and immediatly after applied the voodoo lagfix that came with it... you say converting the file system is bad if playing around with different roms... is there a way for me to convert the file system back to rfs? thanks.
Use either the included voodoo control app or boot to recovery and disable lagfix.
When on darky's though visit darky's site and flash the newer Dark Core kernel here
Personally stay off GB Rom's until a final official bug free base is released by samsung.
If you want to play around a bit more with the look of your phone look at themes's and also alternative launchers (Launcher Pro & ADW Launcher Ex)
I will have to agree with others though, it's down to personal preference, me I always used Doc's Rom Kitchen, then Darky 9.5 came alone and I've tried others including GB and ALWAYS go back to darky's.
i have only used Darky and romkitchen.Both easy to use and clear instructions.
Klutsh said:
I will have to agree with others though, it's down to personal preference, me I always used Doc's Rom Kitchen, then Darky 9.5 came alone and I've tried others including GB and ALWAYS go back to darky's.
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Finally going back to the topic....just for the curiosity: Did you try Criskelo's ?
If you didnt, just try it
Klutsh said:
Use either the included voodoo control app or boot to recovery and disable lagfix.
When on darky's though visit darky's site and flash the newer Dark Core kernel here
Personally stay off GB Rom's until a final official bug free base is released by samsung.
If you want to play around a bit more with the look of your phone look at themes's and also alternative launchers (Launcher Pro & ADW Launcher Ex)
I will have to agree with others though, it's down to personal preference, me I always used Doc's Rom Kitchen, then Darky 9.5 came alone and I've tried others including GB and ALWAYS go back to darky's.
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Ok yeah I plan on staying with darky's 9.5 until the Bell GB update comes out. I love it so far. Amazingly fast and stable. Plus my battery life has gone up tenfold.
I just wanted to make sure that I can undo the lagfix easily (with the voodoo control app) when the Bell update comes out.
Cheers!
JJEgan said:
The best custom rom / optimized kernel is the one that makes your tel. smooth and responsive WITHOUT the need off LAGFIXES / File system conversions...SPECIALLY on Gingerbread which got a more optimized RFS
And thats called the SGS 2
jje
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According to curio, the SGS2 has ext4 and no Rfs, thus lagfixes are unnecessary.

Choosing the right kernel

Hi all,
My Galaxy S i9000 will arrive tomorrow and I'd like to be prepared how to and which kernel to flash.
I'll probably just flash JVQ, the latest official Gingerbread 2.3.4 ROM. But I can't decide which kernel to use. My main priority is the performance and safety (by this I mean recovery options).
I have found two kernels which might fit my needs.
First of all SpeedMod Gingerbread. It has EXT4 lagfix and sound improvements etc. It seems good to me.
There are no instructions for this one, but my guess is to just flash the .tar with ODIN as PDA?
Second I have found CF-Root. There are clear instructions so I don't need help how to, but is this a good option as a kernel?
What kernel do you think is the best for the Gingerbread ROM JVQ?
Also, what about CWM? How do I boot into this recovery? Does it replace the default recovery?
Sorry for the noob questions, but as you see I'm quiet uncertain about these things, though I've read alot.
Thanks
Stock JVQ ?
Why won't you flash a custom ROM ? For example you could install Insanity's, Darky's, etc... which are sort of "packages" containing everything you are looking for.
Each one of them have a specific forum in Dev, with flashing explanations.
As for kernels, if I ever needed to change, I'd go for Glitch.
I would wait and use cf root when its released and if your not happy with the speed then use an oc kernal.there are many packages that will be available for all the mods you want in the themes section.this way you will be as close to stock as possible avoiding any unwanted issues
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I've considered Darky's 10.1, but I dunno, I don't like the green colors and everything.
Insanity and glitch look cool. I must have overlooked this ROM, I might consider it. Thanks for the tip
Stock with CF-Root seems to be the fastest in Quadrant. I'm in doubt.
bro i think u have to keep Cf-root i install jvq and put Speedmod in it but u cant image it doesnot contain Superuser and cmw after that i install Cf-root it really better then speedmod this time not always.........i hope u can go with cf root
Have you considered other kernels like Semaphore, Galaxian or Talon?
All of these have OC/UV capabilities, EXT 4 and more performance tweaks than CF-Root itself.
Speedmod is currently undergoing major developments (less stable versions being tested). You can wait until it has a stable version before flashing.
And you can buy Voodoo control plus if you want great sound.
I know Talon has Voodoo sound v9 built in. So, take your pick
For stock JVQ I recommend to use stock kernel until the custom kernels have updated JVQ initframs.
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I'll look intro Talon. I won't overclock my device as I want it too last as long as possible The Voodoo stuff seems interesting. Would it work if I just flashed it over CF-Root? Guess not. I would have to flash the stock kernel and then Talon again?
With the latest stock JVQ I'm getting 1400 score in Quadrant, kinda low. I'm now attempting to convert to ext4, but the system folder has too less space, trying to move some apps.
Edit:
With everything converted to ext4 I now have 2300, that's better I'll leave it like this I think. I'm fine. Thanks for the tips
In that case i would recommend to use Talon 0.3.1 without OC.
try galaxian kernel for jvp and feel the speed...
cooldoc007 said:
try galaxian kernel for jvp and feel the speed...
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absolutely flying
yep, use Stock JVQ 2.3.4 (not deodexed! many errors: phone and browser fcs) and galaxian kernel.
My SGS is flying with that combination
damian kernel flies with jvq and has what you want scores of 3500 to 3700
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try galaxian kernel for jvp and feel the speed...
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agreed
my fav kernel
works great with simply honey
Jvq. Talon snail 1200 oc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15228666&postcount=17
Fast and stable so far and great battery life.
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Thanks
gamb1e said:
agreed
my fav kernel
works great with simply honey
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galaxian for me, new version maybe later today
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Semaphore and Talon - my favourites!

V6 SuperCharger by zeppelinrox, is anyone using it

I have SuperCharger on my SGA and decided to give it a go on SGNote.
And for the first time I got +4000 (4157) quadrant score running stock lc1 firmware and cf-root kernel.
Original thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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I do not know if this will work on custom kernels. I keep switching between franko and speedmod kernel but these kernels have some built-in tweaks so I decided to test it on cf-root kernel.
Good topic, I'm interested in exactly the same, thanks for posting .
I'd be especially interested if somebody uses this script with the speedmod-kernel.
Not that one blows something with it as the custom-kernels do have their own memory-tweaks.
I am on cf-root. I'll try it with speedmod tomorrow.
Why don't you give it a try ?
Maybe this evening after dinner, and after a backup .
I'm currently on speedmod K2-8 with CheckROM V6.
These where included in the thunderbolt tweaks that several of the notes custom roms used on GB
TB doesn't do much for launcher redraw tho.
Many users thatuse TB also use V6 SuperCharger instead of TB's LMK addon.
Having said that, TB is probably the only tweak (that's not by me lol) that I can comfortably recommend.
Notified said:
Maybe this evening after dinner, and after a backup .
I'm currently on speedmod K2-8 with CheckROM V6.
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Finally I managed to get it working on speed mod 2-8
This thing is KAKing!
Boy124 said:
Finally I managed to get it working on speed mod 2-8
This thing is KAKing!
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Just did the same. Curious what settings you used.
Hi! I am currently using the latest version of the script with ics stunner and it works awesome! I know it is a beta fw the lc6 but the script helps on getting the device lag free and very stable
I will update this post of my configs in supercharger later tonight!
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Just did the same. Curious what settings you used.
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1000 HP settings,
Kick Ass Kernelizer,
Lag Nullifier,
Bulletproof Launcher,
and added opera mobile to bullet proof apps list, now it does not get killed by android.
Use the latest version of SpeedMod. I had problems with init.d scripts. If it does not get executed automatically set init.d scripts to run at boot using script manager.
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With older superuser application (the one with black and white icon) integration of init.rc might cause problems with superuser permissions. This will not lose root but in my case applications used to get superuser access without first time prompt.
Chainfire's SuperSU does not have any problems.
I use Ram Manager Pro, which I believe does the same thing.
It's not even in the same league.
zeppelinrox said:
It's not even in the same league.
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I assume your implying that Supercharger is better? How?
V6 SuperCharger Pro is for free,
and if I'm not mistaken V6 was there before ram manager was published in the market.
Spartoi said:
I assume your implying that Supercharger is better? How?
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Look at the poll in my thread.
Most replies are that V6 is the best mod EVER.
Takes balls to ask that question but not really - since it's true.
What you should ask is, "Why did I pay for false advertising and snake oil?"
zeppelinrox said:
Look at the poll in my thread.
Most replies are that V6 is the best mod EVER.
Takes balls to ask that question but not really - since it's true.
What you should ask is, "Why did I pay for false advertising and snake oil?"
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zep <3 You make my phones even better then they are!!! Thanks for your work mate!!! I really mean it
When i have Desire HD i was in a ROM team.When new sense arrived the real free memory was terrible.We decide to used SuperCharger as default script and WOW!more free ram, smoother, no battery draining, no problem at all!
Awsome scripts from an expert.
Pikachu, developer of Thunderbolt too once said that RMP only tweaked LMK and didn't do much optimization.
Lets put this aside. We know what is real and best. Thanks a lot Zepp.
*thumbsup*

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