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First time ROMing, Rogers HTC Magic, Lessons Learned

So, i'm sure there's many posts about this, but I thought I'd drop in my 2 cents. Basically, the purpose of this post is to try and help completely new users get acquainted with the world of Android "ROMing". I know there's beginners tutorials and wiki's and such, and I'm very grateful for all the time put into them by their writers, but the fact remains that they're written by experts, and as such, their expertise shines through and can sometimes confuse new users such as my self.
Up front: I'm an AT&T customer who's using a Rogers branded HTC Magic purchased from ImportGSM. I'm using Rogers cause Rogers has the same 3G bands as AT&T. I am coming from a Sony-Ericsson dumbphone. I use Gmail for my primary email and applied for a Google Voice account a while ago (got the account before getting the phone). I'm a practicing computer engineer so if I lapse into jargon, I apologize.
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OK, so you got an android phone (if you're on this forum, its most likely an HTC Magic/Dream/Hero) and you want to install new ROMs onto it (for whatever reason, just to do it, to get more functionality, to remove the carrier 'branding', whatever). You've done your research. You've read through the wikis (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking) and you're still a little confused as to where to start, or you're worried you're gonna brick your phone.
First, relax, as long as you follow the instructions, there's little chance of bricking your phone.
Second, some vocab:
SPL: Secondary Program Loader. don't worry too much about this, you shouldn't have to mess with it. I like to think of it as your phones BIOS. There's an off chance that you'll have a "perfected" SPL (.0006 or .0010), which basically means that you have a phone that is hardened against hackers, but as long as you use the one touch root method described below, you won't even notice it. You won't be able to use the Adb/Fastboot/Android SDK method mentioned below, you'll just get a "no access" error when you try to terminal into your phone.
ROM: Catch all term for software to be loaded onto your android. Generally comes in two flavors, a Recovery ROM, and what I call an Operating System ROM. A Recovery ROM is what gives you root access. An Operating System ROM is the user experience (where Amon_Ra or Cyanogen or others mix and match features to make a better user experience). I know that Operating System ROM might be misleading, but its the closest computer analogy I could come up with.
Now, this process will completely refresh your phone, removing all of your contacts, apps, etc. So before you start, if you have stuff on your phone you want to save, best copy them somewhere off your phone now. There's free apps out there to do all of this.
Lets get started.
Now, the first thing you're gonna wanna do is get something called "root" access to your phone. This allows you to install those fancy homebrewed ROMs that people are talking about. To get root, you have to install a recovery ROM. Installing a recovery ROM is is roughly similar to flashing a new BIOS on your computer. Except in this case, its on your phone and it gives you unrestricted access to the phone (like the Root user in Linux). There's two ways of getting Root. The first way is to install the Android SDK onto your computer and image your android with one of the recovery ROMs via your computers command line. I won't get into details on this one because its not the method I chose, and instructions are all over the web on this one. NOTE that this method doesn't work with updated Rogers phones. They installed the 'Perfected' .0010 SPL effectively removing remote command line access thus making this method a non-starter. The other way is to use the "one click root" program, which is a program you install on your Android phone. To do this, go to the one click root website (http://www.ryebrye.com/blog/2009/08/16/android-rooting-in-1-click-in-progress/). Download the .apk file and drop it onto the SD card in the Android phone (you'll have to connect the phone to your computer via USB, and select "Mount SD card". then simply drag and drop the .apk onto the SD card in your computer's file browser). Then, on the android phone, open up your file browser (I suggest Astro or Linda, both free downloads from the market) and open the .apk using the default Android application launcher. It should be a dark screen with a text box and a few buttons. The textbox should have a URL in it pointing to a .img recovery image (This is the cyanogen one). You'll first want to make a backup of your current (factory) ROM by pressing the (i believe) botton button. It'll work for a few seconds. Then you're ready to flash the recovery ROM. You can either accept the default (the cyanogen, which works fine) or specify a different ROM (such as Amon_Ra's which has slightly more capabilities) by entering in a different path (URL or path to SD card if you have a recovery image stored on the SD card). Then hit the first button to begin the flash. Wait for it to finish. DO NOT DISTURB THE PHONE WHILE FLASHING.
Once its finished flashing, congrats, you've rooted your phone. Now power off the phone, and power it back on while while holding power and Home. Hold Power and Home the entire time till you see an 'old computer' style menu come up. Should have some options such as reboot, install update.zip, install other .zip, wipe data/factory reset, etc. you should be able to use the trackball to cycle through the selections. The botton should have something like <cyanogen/Amon_Ra> recovery vX.X.X. If you see this screen, then you've successfully rooted your phone. Congrats.
Now, before you do anything else, IMMEDIATELY perform a nandroid backup. This should be on of the options in the recovery ROM. What this is doing is creating a backup of your current phone configuration so if anything goes wrong with installing the hacked ROM, you can revert to the state the phone is in now.
Next, perform a data wipe. There should be a selection for "wipe data/factory reset" or something similar. Select that. Wait for it to finish wiping your data from the SD card.
Now to install other hacked ROMs, just download whatever ROM you want to install from the xda site. Check the bottom of this page for a listing of the main ones (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking). It should download as a .zip. Copy the .zip file (DON'T UNZIP IT) onto the root of the SD Card (you can do this while in recovery mode by mounting the SD card or by physically removing the SD card from the phone and putting it into a card reader on your computer and copying the files). Once you have the ROM .zip on the SD card, with the SD card in the phone, select "install other .zip" or something similar and select the .zip file of the ROM you want to run. Should be some combination of the creators name (Amon_Ra or CM (for CyanogenMod)), what board the .zip is for (32A, 32B), what version the ROM is (4.1.1 or something). Then select "home" to confirm that you want to do this and wait for the periods to stop appearing. Once it stops, you should be able to select "reboot".
After it reboots (you should see different splash screens than when it was factory configured, except for the very first screen which on mine is "Rogers". Mine goes from Rogers to "Android" spelled out in blue text) you should have a fully functioning phone running a hacked ROM.
If it doesn't boot fully (which mine did a few times), try a different ROM or try wiping your data again. If all else fails, go into your recovery ROM (power and Home) and restore the Nandroid recovery image you made earlier.
Once it boots, it should have a tutorial on how to use Android.
When you get to the google login, I would suggest setting up your APN settings prior to doing that. At the google login screen, hit the menu button and select "APN Settings". Select add new APN (either an on screen choice or brought up by the menu button) and add in the APN details for your provider. You can find these easily by googling "<your provider> APN settings". Log into Google and you should up and running.
I just kinda threw this semi-tutorail together, so it may be a little confusing, but I tried to explain everything as best as I could. I know that i found all of the different ways to get root and the different ROMs and such to be very confusing. Just throwing out how I went about doing it.
Disclaimer: one click root works by exploiting a vulnerability in Android, which was closed by Google on Aug 11 or so. Therefore, if you have a factory Android build from that was released after Aug 11, one click root may not work for you, and you'll have to go the SDK route. I updated my Rogers phone in mid oct 2009, and my build was still prior to Aug 11, so don't just assume cause its after Aug 11 that it won't work on your phone.

thanks alot for the tutorial! you're a saint, i've been looking all over for something exactly like this!
i will test this out and let you know!
Edit:
I was successful! Huzzah! Thanks for the guide again!
What rom did you load onto your phone?
Also,
Could you give a brief tutorial on what exactly changing the radio and spl are?

Need some serious hel.

Hi everyone, I'm new to installing Android to the Vogue and I haven't the slightest idea where to start. I've tried multiple times but always seem to mess up with everything. Can anyone give me a step by step tutorial or even make the folders for me so that i can put it in my SD card, let me know and thank you guys for your help. Also if possible and anyone would want to help and make the folders for me I would like an eclair build.

were you planning on running android on NAND (which is where windows mobile is now) or off your sd card.

I was planning on running it off NAND, any suggestions?

Gere200 said:
I was planning on running it off NAND, any suggestions?
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Your phone is already unlocked?
Seeing that you have never run Android before you may want to try a few builds on SD card first to see which one you like, and have the flexability to go back to Windows Mobile. A class 6 microSDHC card is pretty comparable to NAND speedwise in my opinion.

would recommend one of the donut builds (plemen, myn). both guys make a fast and stable donut, GPS and bluetooth work great. since I've got a bit of time, here's a step by step with links to take you from a ground zero unlocked vogue to running android on your nand (fastest way, replaces windows mobile). this has been written up a few times before, but today is your lucky day
read the entire set of instructions before getting started.
BEFORE STARTING
1. know that there are multiple ways to flash a rom to your phone. here are a few
a. using windows, get a flashing package from one of the xda devels, and replace the RUU_signed.nbh file in that package with whatever you are trying to flash (try NFSFAN's package, it has always worked well for me for this; some carrier packages don't work), renamed the same way
b. use a 2GB or smaller micro SD card with the .nbh named VOGUIMG.NBH in root, then place the phone in bootloader mode (see #2)
c. use linux and HTCFlasher - don't know much more about this method, find it here
2. if flashing from a computer, I always recommend flashing from the bootloader, NOT through active sync. enter bootloader: hold down power and camera, then press and release reset, wait for the tricolor screen. then connect to usb, and flash away
3. Flashing etiquette: I always flash everything twice, back to back, for good measure. while the phone is flashing, don't move it, don't open programs, don't surf the internet, just leave your phone and computer alone, hands off. and don't flash from a virtual machine; trust me, just don't.
4. Have patience. There are steps that will take minutes to complete. Just wait. If you are not sure is something is happening or if the phone is frozen, put the phone down and go do something else for at least 10 minutes.
GET STARTED
1. unlock your phone (cokeman's unlocker, hardSPL 2.31).
2. flash a "GPS capable shipped rom" from post 1 here. make sure you have working phone, working data, and working GPS (if you are on verizon and have problems getting GPS to work, see here - thx drewden123.
3. upgrade to the bell 3.42.50 radio, find the radio only version here. flash it the same way you flash any other ROM - you can use a rom package to flash it, just rename it to RUU_signed.nbh and replace the one in the package with it, then flash away)
4. download the necessary files. you'll need:
a. a rom in the form of androidinstall.tgz from this forum. a couple of great donut options are myn's and plemen's and plemen's
b. a .nbh found at sourceforge. the sourceforge page contains both stable builds, and the latest betas - don't know what to use? see this thread. choose your resolution based on the recommendations of the chef (the rom builder), also read here.
5. create a folder on the root of your micro sd card called andboot
6. place your androidinstall.tgz file in the andboot folder
7. flash your .nbh file by placing your phone in bootloader mode, and using one of the above flashing methods
8. as soon as the phone reboots (it should vibrate), hold down this button to enter the install menu like your life depended on it until the boot menu pops up
9. in the top half of the boot menu are your booting/file storage settings. for nand, select "sys on nand" and "data on nand" (other options will work too, but for your standard nand install, I would go with this)
10. go down to "1. install system" and click it. at this point it doesn't matter, but on the second screen that pops up go ahead and choose wipe data as well. when swapping between builds in the future, it is recommended to start with a new data file for best results. however, if it is the same class of build (i.e. between two donut builds), keeping your data.img file and simply using the "clear dalvik cache" should keep you running smooth without having to change all of your settings again.
11. wait for the install menu to re-appear. when it does, scroll down to "9. quit" and click it.
12. wait. keep waiting. in fact, step away from your phone. when you come back, turn the screen on, you should see the Donut lock screen!
OTHER NOTES
1. to reflash windows, simply enter bootloader mode, and flash your windows rom
2. buttons in android: see here.

wow thank you so much, this is exactly what I needed, once I get everything going I will let you know, currently I'm running NFSFAN's Final 6.5 ROM, its great and all but I need me some Android. Thanks again for your help and I will keep you posted.

tatnai said:
would recommend one of the donut builds (plemen, myn). both guys make a fast and stable donut, GPS and bluetooth work great. since I've got a bit of time, here's a step by step with links to take you from a ground zero unlocked vogue to running android on your nand (fastest way, replaces windows mobile). this has been written up a few times before, but today is your lucky day
read the entire set of instructions before getting started.
BEFORE STARTING
1. know that there are multiple ways to flash a rom to your phone. here are a few
a. using windows, get a flashing package from one of the xda devels, and replace the RUU_signed.nbh file in that package with whatever you are trying to flash (try NFSFAN's package, it has always worked well for me for this; some carrier packages don't work), renamed the same way
b. use a 2GB or smaller micro SD card with the .nbh named VOGUIMG.NBH in root, then place the phone in bootloader mode (see #2)
c. use linux and HTCFlasher - don't know much more about this method, find it here
2. if flashing from a computer, I always recommend flashing from the bootloader, NOT through active sync. enter bootloader: hold down power and camera, then press and release reset, wait for the tricolor screen. then connect to usb, and flash away
3. Flashing etiquette: I always flash everything twice, back to back, for good measure. while the phone is flashing, don't move it, don't open programs, don't surf the internet, just leave your phone and computer alone, hands off.
4. Have patience. There are steps that will take minutes to complete. Just wait. If you are not sure is something is happening or if the phone is frozen, put the phone down and go do something else for at least 10 minutes.
GET STARTED
1. unlock your phone (cokeman's unlocker, hardSPL 2.31). make sure whatever ROM you end up with on your phone has working phone, working data, and working GPS.
2. upgrade to the bell 3.42.50 radio, find the radio only version here. flash it the same way you flash any other ROM - you can use and rom package to flash it, just rename it to RUU_signed.nbh and replace the one in the package with it, then flash away)
3. download the necessary files. you'll need:
a. a rom in the form of androidinstall.tar from this forum. a couple of great donut options are myn's and plemen's and plemen's
b. a .nbh found at sourceforge. the sourceforge page contains both stable builds, and the latest betas - don't know what to use? see this thread. choose your resolution based on the recommendations of the chef (the rom builder), also read here.
4. create a folder on the root of your micro sd card called andboot
5. place your androidinstall.tar file in the andboot folder
6. flash your .nbh file by placing your phone in bootloader mode, and using one of the above flashing methods
7. as soon as the phone , hold volume up like your life depended on it until the boot menu pops up
8. in the top half of the boot menu are your booting/file storage settings. for nand, select "sys on nand" and "data on nand" (other options will work too, but for your standard nand install, I would go with this)
9. go down to "1. install system" and click it. at this point it doesn't matter, but on the second screen that pops up go ahead and choose wipe data as well. when swapping between builds in the future, it is recommended to start with a new data file for best results. however, if it is the same class of build (i.e. between two donut builds), keeping your data.img file and simply using the "clear dalvik cache" should keep you running smooth without having to change all of your settings again.
10. wait for the install menu to re-appear. when it does, scroll down to "9. quit" and click it.
11. wait. keep waiting. in fact, step away from your phone. when you come back, turn the screen on, you should see the Donut lock screen!
OTHER NOTES
1. to reflash windows, simply enter bootloader mode, and flash your windows rom
2. buttons in android:
-top power: short press = turn on power, wake screen, menu. 1-second long press = toggle keyboard. 2-second long press = toggle portrait/landscape orientation
-volume slider: volume
-camera: short press = back. 1-second long press = home
-green: short press = call log. long press = voice dialer
-red: short press = sleep screen. long press = phone option menu (power off, airplane mode, silent, etc)
-enter, direction keys = standard functions
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If only we had someone to sticky this. Great post only need to add info about the market and resolution and I bet this forum would be 95% reduced in clutter.

berardi said:
If only we had someone to sticky this. Great post only need to add info about the market and resolution and I bet this forum would be 95% reduced in clutter.
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When i just try to run haret it says that mkdir: cannot create directory '/system'
:File exists
sh: 2: unknown operand
it also says that it cannot find the system directory in the SD card??

tatnai said:
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tatnai said:
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[borat voice] Very nice!
Now you'll just have to post in every thread "please see my signature"

Tatnai, I just want to thank you for your post. I was able to flash myn's build of andriod to nand yesterday after going through maybe five different threads(all with slightly differing methods). After reading your instructions, I am relieved that I did it correctly.
Quick a question just to verify. When I want to reflash to a newer build of andriod in the future, I'd just have to place the correct .nbh file in root, androidinstall.tar file in the andboot folder and hold volume up?

wfp said:
Tatnai, I just want to thank you for your post. I was able to flash myn's build of andriod to nand yesterday after going through maybe five different threads(all with slightly differing methods). After reading your instructions, I am relieved that I did it correctly.
Quick a question just to verify. When I want to reflash to a newer build of andriod in the future, I'd just have to place the correct .nbh file in root, androidinstall.tar file in the andboot folder and hold volume up?
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they may be changing around the .nbh file stuff, so this answer is depending on what happens with that, BUT... you shouldn't need to flash a new .nbh to change your system unless you need to change resolution. if you don't, read on.
NOTE: the process is the same whether running on NAND, or on SD card (ext2 or regular sd). Just don't mess with the boxes at the top of the install menu that say where your sys and data are installed.
TO RUN AN UPDATE that someone has provided in their thread for their build:
1. place the androidupdate.tar in the /andboot folder on your sd card
2. reboot your phone, hold this button until you see the install menu
3. from the bottom portion of that menu, select "Install update". click yes on the popup menu that notifies you that this will adjust the system files.
4. wait. it will eventually finish and kick you back to the install menu
5. go to "quit" and click it.
TO CHANGE FROM ONE ROM TO ANOTHER (same class, i.e. donut to donut)
Note: if you have a data.img, you technically should be able to keep it while moving between ROMs of the same class (i.e. donut rom to a donut rom, or eclair to eclair rom). just make sure to clear the dalvik cache before the new one boots up. however, if there are any problems, the first thing you should then do is wipe your existing data.img using the install menu and the boot your new system allowing it to create a fresh one.
1. place the new ROM file (androidinstall.tgz) into the /andboot folder on the root of your sd card, overwriting any previous install file that was there before
2. reboot your phone, hold this button until you see the install menu
3. from the bottom portion of that menu, select "backup /data", then select "yes" to overwrite old backups (btw, you can rename any databackup.img in the /andboot folder to anything you want to keep multiple backups; when you want to revert to a particular data.img backup, just rename it to databackup.img before going to the install menu). this will give you a backup of your current data just in case something goes wrong. it will take a while to complete, and eventually take you back to the install menu.
4. from the bottom portion of that menu, select "clear dalvik cache". allow this to run, it will return you to the install menu when complete.
5. from the bottom portion of that menu, select "Install system". click "yes" on the popup menu that notifies you that this will overwrite the system files. a second popup will open asking if you want to wipe your /data, select "no" for this to keep your current data file. once it installs, you will be returned to the install menu.
6. select "quit" from the bottom of the menu. this should boot android. first boot after clearing the dalvik cache, installing a new system, or wiping a data.img will take a while, just be patient
TO CHANGE FROM ONE ROM TO ANOTHER (different class, i.e. donut to eclair, or cupcake to donut)
Note: I would not recommend keeping your data.img while switching between different versions of android.
1. place the new ROM file (androidinstall.tgz) into the /andboot folder on the root of your sd card, overwriting any previous install file that was there before
2. reboot your phone, hold down this button until you see the install menu
3. from the bottom portion of that menu, select "backup /data", click ok to overwrite old backups (btw, you can rename any databackup.img in the /andboot folder to anything you want to keep multiple backups; when you want to revert to a particular data.img backup, just rename it to databackup.img before going to the install menu). this will give you a backup of your current data for future use, i.e. if you decide to return back to that version of android. it will take a while to complete, and eventually take you back to the install menu.
4. from the bottom portion of that menu, select "Install system". click "yes" on the popup menu that notifies you that this will overwrite the system files. a second popup will open asking if you want to wipe your /data, select "yes" to delete the current data file. once it installs, you will be returned to the install menu.
6. select "quit" from the bottom of the menu. this should boot android. first boot after clearing the dalvik cache, installing a new system, or wiping a data.img will take a while, just be patient.

Thanks again for the information. I and I'm sure others appreciate it. I hope your FAQ thread will get stickied.

I keep get an error when I am trying to install from NAND, it says Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt, anyone have any clues?? I am trying to install SenseHERO 1.4 and I am using the NAND kit posted with the UpdateROM utility. Any suggestions?

Nice work

Is there anyone in nj that can help me install this damn android on the vogue.. ive tried all the methods and nothing seems to work.. can it be the microSD card?? the files im using?? ive been trying to use every single build out there and nothing seems to work..

Dummy's Guide to update your I9000 from the stock software to the Official Froyo

After successfully;
researching, upgrading to the official build of my choosing, getting it to work and typing this tutorial out (for those that like me weren't knowledged in this),
I stumbled across this thread. I thought I should also share it here aswell.
Here's a N00b's (Dummy's) Guide to how to update your device from the stock software to the Official Samsung Froyo ROM (software/operating system) OF YOUR CHOICE!!
Why do this?
You get Froyo. So you get the latest version of Android to support more Apps.
It comes with some UI-tweeks, JIT-compiler, and FLASH 10.1 PLAYER!!!
Also you get a newer (better) kernel on your phone with some of Samsung's fixes for the lag and for the GPS.
You can get features/Apps not available in your native rom build and/or remove the bloatware.
This method (not incl E) can also be used to install custom ROMs (I personally can't wait for the Official English MIUI ROM).
** Denotes steps which I skipped, or was unable/unwilling to follow, or didn't quite understand
Here's the comprehensive, step-by-step, easy-to-follow breakdown/walkthrough (Section E only works on Windows Computers):
A) Remove your microSD card (this will prevent some weid issues later on)
A2) Make sure you have Kies downloaded and installed on your computer
A3) Make sure you have an extractor installed (for Windows 7, winRAR is a great free solution)
B) We need to root your device, for this goto "One Click Root/Unroot" by TGA_Gunnman at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742403
B1) Download (2.5MB) the software (depending on your computer, mine is Win7 Home Premium 64-bit) into your computer not phone
B2) Make a folder somewhere in your computer labelled "OneClickRoot" (or anything) and drag the .rar file (the one you just downloaded) into it
B3) Extract the contents of the files by Right-Click then "Extract Here" (If you don't have this option install WinRAR)
B4) Set your phone to USB Debug mode (on your phone goto MENU > Settings > Applications > Developement > USB debugging = Checked) and then connect the phone to the computer via USB cable.
B5) Open the "Galaxy S I9000 One-Click Root" application. (This step didn't work for me, so I instead opened "rootme" batchfile which started the command prompt).
B6) Your phone will shut itself off, and then turn on in a "recovery mode". DO NOT REMOVE THE CABLE. Use the Volume Up and Volume Down buttons to get to "install from " and then hit the Home button.
B7) Now your device should be restarting again but this time it will actually go to your lockscreen.
B8) Now, you have ROOT, Congratulations.
B9) Not sure? We can test to see if you have root. Goto Market on your phone and download two Apps (Superuser and Titanium Backup, use the search to find them fast).
B10) Install both and launch Titanium Backup. As soon as you turn it on it will come up with a pop up and say something like "Your device is not rooted" or "Root is not accessible" ... if you didn't get Root.
B11) If you have root it will say something like "Titanium Backup needs to gain permission from Superuser" here click Apply. If you get to the App, well done you have indeed Rooted your phone
C) Now if you want to Backup your device before the update (recommended) you can follow steps C, otherwise skip straight to Step D.
C1) On Titanium Backup if a pop up notification comes with something like "Download an updated BusyBox" allow it to do so.
C2) Now first thing you will want to backup your Apps (all paid and free and the levels/hiscores) make sure you don't have any emulator ROMs on there (they consume too much space) and delete all those unwanted Apps
C3) On Titanium Backup, hit the Menu button > More > Create "update.zip" ...
C4) On this screen select "User application" and "TitaniumBackup-3.6.2.zip" and UN-TICK the "Sign the ZIP file (with ZipSigner)"
C5) Hit the Create "update.zip"... on the bottom and Please wait
C6) Once it finishes it, exit Titanium Backup, go back to settings and disable USB debugging (as posted on B4).
C7) Connect your phone to your computer (through Kies or PC link) and then browse your My Computer until you find Galaxy S I9000.
C8) Open that folder and then open phone. Find "TitaniumBackup-3.6.2.zip" and copy that to somewhere on your computer.
C9) Now that we have backed up your applications, lets backup your ROM.
C10) According to TGA_Gunnman you can use Clockwork MOD Recovery to do this, but this is for a different (Galaxy S) device ie "Samsung Vibrant"
**C11) Follow the steps on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734164 to do so, personally I skipped doing so out of fear of bricking the device (there may be subtle differences between the devices that can make your phone a paperweight/brick)
C12) Now if you did follow the Clockwork MOD, be sure to copy the "update.zip" file somewhere into your computer (better be safe than sorry)
D1) Now we need to apply the 3-Button-Combo Fix (this is the only reason for steps A-C because it is highly recommended to have this before flashing ANY rom)
D2) I recommend the Fix by RazvanG http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821698 because it seems to be the *safest*
**D3) Firstly check if your device is compatible. I wasn't successful to dump my BML1 block, so I couldn't test if the block reads "[email protected]"
**D3) RazvanG has provided some instructions on this method see his post for more information http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9595936#post9595936
D4) So I took a leap of faith and continued anyways with the risk of bricking my device. I have it on contract/plan so if it fails I would just return it and say Kies was updating and it failed
D5) I followed the steps on the thread but I'll reitterate it here for your convnieance
D6) Download both files (RAZ-FiX-SGS and adbRecovery) from the thread.
D7) Make a new folder (adbRecovery) on your computer and extract the adb .zip file into there
D8) Connect your phone to the computer and copy the RAZ-FiX-SGS.zip into your phone's memory
D9) Delete the old Update.zip file AND rename the RAZ-FiX-SGS.zip to Update.zip
D10) Again, turn on USB debugging (you know how) and open "Recovery" batch file from your computer
D11) This will initiate a command prompt (on Win7) and restart your phone
D12) Your phone will go into recovery mode (like we've seen before)
D13) You need to navigate (Volume buttons) to "apply sdcard; update.zip" and hit the Home button
D14) Your phone will turn off and restart and should get to your lockscreen
D15) So you're at the lockscreen? SUCCESS! (mine didn't brick *pheww*)
D16) Now let's test to see if the 3-Button-Fix worked
D17) *IMPORTANT* Firstly browse into your phone's internal memory and delete update.zip (the one we put there from RazvanG)
D18) Now that you have done so, you can safely just turn off the device
D19) Hold the Volume Down + Home button ... then hold the power button, as soon as the device begins to turn on release the power button (keep holding Volume Down + Home)
D20) If you get a Yellow triangle with the Android robot and "Do not turn off Target", well done, you have the 3BF so you have a means to ensure that you can always recover your phone if you do brick, well done!
D21) You can *safely* remove the battery and restart your phone ONLY if you don't have a Update.zip in the root of your phone
D22) If you don't want to take a leap of faith try this method (safest method but doesn't work for some people): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=860773
E1) Now is the fun part (we've just past the difficult parts)
E2) You need to hunt down the version of (official Samsung)software you wish to install ... just go through member's reviews and recommendations
E3) You need to find the product code of that build, you can do this navigating through this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846913
OR by asking members (they can find out with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787163)
E4) For me this was the Virgin mobile Australia build (XSA - an unbadged, no-bloatware, unlocked Froyo build with a free copy of Navigon Navigation)
E5) Make sure you update your Kies to "ver 1.5.3.10103_102" (latest as of the time I'm writing)
E6) Go visit this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835628 for information (the software may have been upgraded)
E7) Download (300KBs) the Kies Registry patcher 1.6.0.0 (latest as of writing) <<This only works on Windows computers, sorry Mac'ners>>
E8) Launch the Kies Registry Patcher WHEN KIES IS OPENED
E9) Click on File > Backup (and save this somewhere in your computer - this is your original product code - better safe than sorry)
E10) Make Enable Spoof to True
E11) Now where it says "Spoof Product Code as" type in the product code of your desire (mine is XSA)
E12) Hit Write Registry and it should say "Registry pathed successfully"
E13) Connect your phone via USB cable to the computer
E14) On your phone select "Samsung Kies" when the pop up comes ... it should be at the "Connected" screen (DO NOT HIT HOME BUTTON)
E15) On Kies it should find your phone, and a pop up on the corner will say "There is a firmware update available for your phone" hit that pop up
E16) Now you will see another pop up and it's asking if you want to "Back up contacts before upgrading firmware" ... seems like a good idea, tick the box and hit Upgrade
E17) If the screen on the phone shuts (ie standby) don't be alerted. Hit the power button to wake it up. DO NOT HIT THE HOME BUTTON!
E18) Another pop up will come to name the contacts file - I just hit save so its the original filename in original (Samsung)folder
E19) Another Pop up will come to say "Save to PC completed" - hit OK, its just letting you know the contacts saved properly
E20) Now you get another Pop up to start the Firmware Upgrade - This is an important area, note down the: Model Name, Current Version and Latest Version (if something goes wrong this info maybe valuable for developers)
E21) Mine is (model)GT-I9000, (current)PDA:JG4 / Phone:JG3 / CSC:JG2 and (latest) PDA:JP5 / Phone:JP3 / CSC:JP4 ......... notice they are diffirent, this is what I was looking for
E22) Hit Upgrade! (Allow Kies to function when Windows 7 or Windows Vista prompts you)
E23) Tick the "All information has been verified" and Click Next
**E24) Let Samsung record your phone number in their database? I don't care (I'm on insurance/contract/plan) and I hit "Allow saving" ad Clicked Next
E25) Wait patiently, its downloading the rom from the server, DO NOT UNPLUG THE DEVICE
E26) A progress bar will appear, your USB will get disconnected, reconnected several times, the phone will be stuck on the yellow triangle screen - these are normal
E27) The progress bar will slowly be filled from grey to blue and a progress bar will appear on your phone - almost there!
E28) The progress bar on the computer will finish and the pop up will read "GT-I9000 Upgrade completed" - Click Close
E29) Your phone will restart and will enter "recovery mode" some yellow texts will appear and scroll forward
E30) The phone will reboot again and you will see the boot image with the Galaxy S logo
E31) The phone will be stuck on that logo for awhile - be patient
E32) The phone will now get to your lockscreen, unlock it
E33) You will have to go through your initial setup firstly its the Swype tutorial, then data settings, and finally the account settings emerges
E34) If the Kies connection screen comes up: hit the home button
E35) Now you should have come to your Homescreen go and test everything (all your passwords, all your bookmarks, all your contacts, all your images/music/videos and all your apps (except bloatware) should be there but the order of all the widgets/apps in TouchWizz will be reset to abc-order)
E36) Goto Settings > About Phone Does it say Android 2.2?
E37) Well done you have passed Android Hacking 101, you are officially smarter than 50% of iPhone and Blackberry users
E38) Donate me a beer, nah just kidding, enjoy everything for free but feel free to donate to the developers that help make this possible

this is a guide for I9000 international
I9000M owners please be advised that the I9000 might cause you to lose the 850 band, and might also trigger the internal SD problem

AllGamer said:
this is a guide for I9000 international
I9000M owners please be advized that the I9000 might cause you to lose the 850 band, and might also trigger the internal SD problem
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You made it into a thread, thanks!
Hopefully this might help fellow xdanians

Aww Mate this is awesome, I have the same Carrier and I had OPTUS crap on my Phone from custom roms, Now I'm back to Stock Froyo!!!!
A great tool to Start from afresh.....
But
At Instruction E11 - Select your product code from the drop down Box and it will populate the next field for you.

Gonna put into my favorites

Wow.
I don't think anybody that don't now much would read that.
I know allot and i would never use it either.
You should stick a warning sign on this tread.
I did read about half of it and then i just stop and shake my head.
I hope this tread is a joke.....
Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 342MB Ram

DamianGto said:
Wow.
I don't think anybody that don't now much would read that.
I know allot and i would never use it either.
You should stick a warning sign on this tread.
I did read about half of it and then i just stop and shake my head.
I hope this tread is a joke.....
Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 342MB Ram
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Can you elaborate?
Joke? No it's no joke but I should disclose (as always) this is a tried-and-true way of getting you to update your software but in no way can I be held responsible for damages.
Things may vary slightly in between different phones which is why the links for each source/thread is up there.
I found myself knowing what to do, but always guessing how to do it.
This is a step-by-step process of how and what I did to upgrade my phone to any ROM I want.
If this was posted up before I attempted my upgrade, I would've been so happy that someone really simplified it for me

This is a noobs guide??!!! Simplified??!! I think that everyone will appreciate the time you have spent typing this up and trying to help, but I'm with DamianGto, dude this guide is scary and just explains how YOU got YOUR particular phone running froyo and lets face it, you certainly didn't go about it the easy way!
Once again I think the time you have spent and the willingness to help is admirable, but there are much simpler and noob friendly guides out there

nagrom78 said:
This is a noobs guide??!!! Simplified??!! I think that everyone will appreciate the time you have spent typing this up and trying to help, but I'm with DamianGto, dude this guide is scary and just explains how YOU got YOUR particular phone running froyo and lets face it, you certainly didn't go about it the easy way!
Once again I think the time you have spent and the willingness to help is admirable, but there are much simpler and noob friendly guides out there
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Well you need root + busybox to get the 3 button fix.
If anything a n00b did, they can recover with 3 button trick otherwise they will have a brick.
This is why this guide is long, to ensure things are a-ok.
If you found a friendlier guide can you post the link, much apprecated ;D

How do I exit downloading mode if I forgot to erase update.zip ?

What is it ? Kies
A2) Make sure you have Kies downloaded and installed on your computer
Thanks

Well I think this is an excellent guide that has great potential!
However, a couple of crucial mistakes, which if fixed could help make the guides less confusing...
At beginning of (D) you talk about (A-C) being solely so you could fix your 3 button download (which I don't think is actually true!)
.... But, you should mention 3 button download at the very start of the guide anyway!!
Also, you should include a quick test at the very start to check for 3 button download, because mine is already fine, so a newbie might run all those extra steps when they already had working 3 button download anyway! (The more sections that can be skipped the better!). You can then steer people to the sections they uniquely will need.
However, titanium backup isn't needed for 3 button download fix, but is a wise step before running a rom update. And this works best with root anyway. Hence I don't think your opener for (D) is very accurate. You didn't just complete those steps JUST to get download mode. The backup was important anyway!
Do others think there should be a stage added for backing up contacts etc?
A stage for backing up efi?
Anything else wise that should be in here?

[HOW TO] Fix the "Low on space" problem (in plain English)

The Problem
The HTC Droid Incredible shows a "Low on space: Phone storage space is getting low" warning despite having gobs of space free because the "Application data storage" folder (also known as /data/data) that is shared by all apps on the phone is only 150mb in size. As soon as only 10% of this folder is available, the warning appears. If it gets too much lower, apps stop responding and the phone crashes.
The Story
After many months of clearing app data, uninstalling apps, resetting my phone, and generally walking on eggshells trying to keep my data storage under the limit, I was getting ready to upgrade my device. I would search every few weeks to see if anyone had solved the problem, but all I found were more people stuck in my boat, and I was ready to give up. But then I stumbled across a series of threads on xda-developers.com that gave me new hope. In the course of one night, I learned from scratch how to root my phone, and I applied a fix that increased the "Application data storage" folder to a whopping 750mb. I am now able to download as many apps as I'd like and not have to worry about clearing out app data ever again.
However, it took a bit of scouring the forums and reading various guides to figure out how to do all this. Some of the items are quite technical in nature, and some of the guides skip steps that more experienced users would know how to do already. So I joined the forum to write this guide for the "regular" users out there like myself. My goal is to explain in plain English how to fix this nagging issue once and for all and to consolidate all the relevant info and files into one place. If you find this useful, please share this with others so we can all fully enjoy our phones!
The Credits
I did not invent any of the steps, tools, or methods I am about to describe. Hats off to the following people for supplying all the info and files I needed to fix the problem and write this how-to thread. Please let me know if I've missed anyone that should be mentioned and I will add them.
vbhines for the "New to Modding/Rooting" guide
The unrevoked team for their excellent one-click rooting software and drivers
dreamersipaq for the guide to rooting an Incredible
scotty1223 for the guide to rooting a 2.3.4 Incredible
jermaine151 for the "no data limit" mod that actually fixes the problem
cmlusco and tiny4579 for all their help answering questions and troubleshooting in this thread
The Ingredients
Here's what you'll need to perform this fix:
An HTC Incredible (obviously) with an SD card
A micro USB cable (you can use the one you charge your phone with)
A computer with a USB port and internet access (PC, Mac, or Linux)
An hour of free time
The Fix
Step 1: Read the "New to Modding/Rooting" guide so you know what you're getting into and can understand the terminology: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744807
Step 2: Back up your contacts, pictures, etc. This guide is safe for your phone and will not erase any of your data if you follow it correctly, but it never hurts to back things up just in case.
Step 3a: Make sure your phone is decently charged. (at least 50%)
Step 3b: Make sure your phone isn't currently showing the "low on space" error. Delete some apps or data until the error goes away. You don't want to go through all this effort only to have your phone crash halfway through!
Step 4: Uninstall HTC sync software from your computer. Also make sure you are not running any software that communicates to your phone using USB, such as PDANet or DoubleTwist. If you haven't had to plug your phone into your computer to do anything prior to now, you're probably OK.
Step 5: On your phone, go to Menu -> Settings -> Applications -> Development and put a check in the "USB debugging" box.
Step 6: Plug your phone into your computer, select "Charge Only", select "remember my selection", click "Done", and then unplug your phone.
Step 7: If you are on a Windows PC, follow this user-friendly guide to install the USB drivers you'll need: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install
When I did this step, I actually found my Android entry from the first screenshot in the guide under "Android Phone" and it did not say "Android 1.0". Don't worry, you can still use this entry to continue with the next step in the guide to "Update Driver Software".
Mac and Linux users can skip this step.
Step 8: Root your phone. This step is a bit more involved, so be sure to read the directions carefully. On your phone, go to Menu -> Settings -> About phone -> Software information and look at what it says under "Android version" at the top.
If it says 2.3.4, do this:
Download Clockwork 5.0.2.0: http://dinc.does-it.net/Recoveries/CWM_5.0.2.0/PB31IMG.zip (link updated 6/22/12)
Extract the recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-inc.img from the zip file and put it somewhere you'll remember.
Download Unrevoked 3.22 (this is intentionally NOT the latest version): http://dinc.does-it.net/Unrevoked/Unrevoked_3.22.exe (link updated 6/22/12)
Run Unrevoked_3.22.exe
Inside the program, go to File -> Custom Recovery and select the .img file from above. At the bottom of the program window, it should now say "Recovery: Custom" and "Waiting for device"
Plug in your phone and wait while Unrevoked runs automatically. It will reboot your phone several times and will take some time, so be patient!
Once it's done, unplug your phone and ensure that a "Superuser Permissions" application is inside your app drawer. Don't run it. Instead, go to Menu -> Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> All, scroll down to "Superuser Permissions", click it, then click "Clear data". Return back Home.
If it says anything other than 2.3.4, do this:
Download Unrevoked 3.32: http://www.unrevoked.com/recovery/
Run reflash_package.exe. It may start up right away, or it may ask you to extract the files. Put them somewhere you can find, and once the extraction is done, find and run reflash.exe.
Plug in your phone and wait while Unrevoked runs automatically. It will reboot your phone several times and will take some time, so be patient!
After the above steps, everyone should do this:
Launch the Android Market and search for "ROM Manager". The first result should be "ROM Manager" by ClockworkMod and it should have a picture of a top hat above a gear as its icon. Click it, then click "Download", then "Accept & download". If it is already installed, you can just return Home.
Once ROM Manager has finished installing, launch it and select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" (the first option). Confirm your phone model (HTC Incredible). A window will pop up asking for root permissions - click to allow it.
Optional: After the download completes, scroll down and click "Backup Current ROM". You may need a lot of space free on your SD card to perform this backup depending on what you have on your phone. Once you create this backup, you can use ROM Manager to fully restore your phone (including all apps, data, and settings) in case anything goes wrong. This can take a significant amount of time, so again, be patient!
If all went well, your phone should be exactly the same as it was before, except you now have a couple new apps, and more importantly, root access!
Step 9: On your phone, go to Menu -> Settings -> Applications -> Development and uncheck the "USB debugging" box.
Step 10: Apply the Fix. This is the step you've been waiting for!
Go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623038, click the link for the EXT4All files in the first post, download "Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik.zip", and put it somewhere you'll remember. You can also go directly to this URL to download the file: http://dinc.does-it.net/EXT4_Mods/ (links updated 6/22/12)
Plug your phone into your computer, bring down the notification bar, select the "USB connection type" item, select "Disk drive", and click Done.
On your computer, find your phone's SD card. If you're unsure which drive is your SD card, look at how big each drive is. The drive that has a size of 6.59GB is the phone's internal memory, so the other drive is the SD card. The SD card that comes with the Incredible is 1.83GB in size, but yours may be different if you bought your own SD card.
Move "Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik.zip" from your computer to the SD card. Do not put it inside any folders.
After the file has finished moving, bring down the notifications bar, select the "USB connection type" item, select "Charge only", then click done.
Unplug your phone from your computer.
Launch ROM Manager from your app drawer and click "Reboot into Recovery" (the second option). Click "OK" to proceed.
After the phone reboots, you will now see a black screen with some blue options on it. Use the volume buttons on the left to scroll down to "install zip from sdcard" and click the optical trackpad button at the bottom of the phone to select it.
Click "choose zip from sdcard" (the first option)
Scroll down to the very bottom and select "Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik.zip"
Scroll down to "Yes - Install Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik.zip" and click it. This step will take some time to complete, and the progress bar may not move at all. Be patient!
Once it is done, click the power button at the top of your phone until you're back at the main menu, then select "Reboot system" (the first option). If you hit power too many times and end up with a blank screen, just hit power one more time and you'll see the menu.
When the phone is done rebooting after this last step, verify that the fix worked by going to Menu -> Settings -> SD & phone storage and look at the "Application data storage" section. It should now say that the "Total space" is 748mb!
At this point you can run happily through an open field, shout from the highest mountaintop, or just shed a tear of joy, because you can now install tons of apps and let them accumulate all the data they want. Enjoy!
P.S. Please let me know if any of these steps are incorrect or unclear so I can fix them. Thanks!
Troubleshooting
Here are a couple of issues people have come across while doing the steps in this guide, along with the solutions. Thanks to cmlusco for these helpful answers!
The guide says my phone should have rebooted back to the main screen, but I'm on a black screen with a bunch of blue options!
If you're on this step and the guide doesn't say you need to be here yet, just use the volume buttons to scroll to the "Reboot System Now" option and click the optical trackpad. Then you can continue on with the guide!
I'm stuck on a black screen with white bars on the side!
If your phone is "s-off", reflash the recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-inc.img file from Step #8 using hboot. To get to hboot, turn your phone off, hold the "volume down" button, and turn it back on. Keep holding the "volume down" button until you get to the menu where you can flash the .img file.
If your phone is not "s-off" or you have no idea what "s-off" means, run Unrevoked again with the same .img file from Step #8.
In either case, you should be able to continue using the guide from where you left off!
My phone keeps rebooting over and over and I can't do anything!
Pull out the battery, wait for 15 seconds, and put it back in and turn the phone back on. If it still keeps rebooting, pull out/re-insert the battery again, go into hboot (see above answer) and try the following steps. You can stop as soon as one of them works!
1. Restore a backup that you made in a previous step (if you have one).
2. Reflash the .img file from Step #8.
3. Flash the .img file here: http://dinc.does-it.net/wildstang83_inc_4.08.605.2_11232011.zip (note: this one will take you back to stock, so you'll have to start the guide over).
I'm still stuck!
If all else fails, please post your issue in this thread so someone can help you out. You can also try restoring your backup (you made a backup, right??) and starting over from the top. Good luck!

Potential Alternate Solution
Soniclude that was a great very detailed write up. Here is another option that I found that seems to also solve the dreaded low disk space...
Since you clearly outlined the steps for rooting your device, I wont go into that. But, why stop at fixing one of the most annoying stock problems. Rooting is half the battle to flashing a new rom - which is precisely what I did to stop the LDS issue.
I used to use CM7 and then flashed over to MIUI but recently I flashed the best rom I have used to date - ICS-Dinc AOKP (]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475936) which is a full fledged ICS port for your OG Dinc.
Since then I have not received any LDS errors (although I have not been using this ROM that long) but I would assume that it would be similar to my lengthy experience with CM7, in which I never got the LDS warning.
Here is what my device displays as available space for applications
View attachment 895332
As you can see I have used 144MB with 604MB free for a total of 748MB, identified as internal storage.
Also, just so you can see that this ROM is not an ICS overlay and is truly a port, here is the device info
View attachment 895331
72ls1's (the dev for ICS-Dinc AOKP) has some really good directions and make the process very easy.
For those that are interested and need a few more additional details, here are a few things that helped me:
1. Make sure you have backup your device data, this includes your apps, contacts (you should be just setting all contacts to sync with your gmail account to begin with), messages and email settings. Use an app like Titanium Backup for apps; Backup and Restore app for messages; Call Log Restore for calling
2. Download the zip files outline in the ROM posting of your chocie to your sdcard; They should be placed at the top level of your sdcard, meaning not in another folder. The zip files for ICS-Dinc AOK include the ICS-Dinc zip, Gapps (use this one gapps-ics-20120207-signed.zip - http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-ics-20120207-signed.zip), and Tiamat Kernel
3. In Recovery make a backup of your device (in case you need to flash back due to an error)
4. Within Recovery prior to flashing the rom make sure to unmount data, sdcard and cache
5. Then clear cache and dalivik-cache (this one is under the advanced options)
6. Do a factory reset
7. Install from zip in the following order: ICS-Dinc AOK V.02, Gapps, Tiamat
8. Reset your device
Now go enjoy the goodness of a fresh ice cream sandwich!
Hope this helps anyone else out there in either the low disk space issue or that is having questions about flashing a rom.

Where is Unrevoked 3.22?
I'm going to use the downgrade-and-reflash method to root my 2.3.4 Incredible and after reading the forums have spent the supper hour looking around for Unrevoked 3.22. There was a megaupload site that always says bandwidth is exceeded, and one more that I found where everything is in a language I can't decipher.
Does anybody have a working link to 3.22? All I want is to turn on my stupid wireless hotspot so my wife can use her Ipad in teh car without having to pay Verizon another $30 a month for access to data I already have. Argh!
Thanks,
Ryan

Captainjerky said:
I'm going to use the downgrade-and-reflash method to root my 2.3.4 Incredible and after reading the forums have spent the supper hour looking around for Unrevoked 3.22. There was a megaupload site that always says bandwidth is exceeded, and one more that I found where everything is in a language I can't decipher.
Does anybody have a working link to 3.22? All I want is to turn on my stupid wireless hotspot so my wife can use her Ipad in teh car without having to pay Verizon another $30 a month for access to data I already have. Argh!
Thanks,
Ryan
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You can actually acomplish that without rooting.
Open dial pad and type ##778# and hit call.
Select edit mode and enter six zeros (000000) as the password.
Select security and look for S.IP DUN username, it should look something like this [email protected]. Change it to be [email protected], just remove the "dun.".
Back out to the main menu and select M.IP Default Profile. Look for DUN NAI and change it to be [email protected], remove the "dun."
Hit the menu button and select commit modifications. Your phone will reboot.
Now just use the stock 3g mobile hotspot app. When you first open it it will say you have to have a subscription and pay, just procede you will not be charged, and verizion is none the wiser. I have been doing this my self for over a year now.

Compass sensor broken
Somebody has the same issue? after flashing the zip i cannot use correctly the compass sensor, for example in SkyMaps app.

This is by far the best tutorial out there to gain root and achieve s-OFF I've come across. Thank you SIR for your time and tutorial. Just EXCELLENT!!

for me the issue was my data/data folder (hint dont sync 1500 facebook friends and never do it with high res pics and with two differant apps haha) =] jsut removed all the contacts i didnt need and turned off the sync from normal facebook app and working perfect now

stuck in loop
I followed the instructions for the 2.3.4 and after I applied the Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik fix I got stuck in a loop with at the HTC Incredible boot screen, not sure what to do now.. can only get back to the recovery mode. Not sure what to do from here

scals37 said:
I followed the instructions for the 2.3.4 and after I applied the Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik fix I got stuck in a loop with at the HTC Incredible boot screen, not sure what to do now.. can only get back to the recovery mode. Not sure what to do from here
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If you made or have a previous roms backup. Just wipe everything in mounts and storage menu except sdcard and emmc, then restore your backup. If you dont have a backup flash a fresh rom.

You kind sir are a gentleman and a scholar. That "low space" bug has been annoying me since July 2009. I greatly appreciate you breaking down the l337 sp33k to plain English.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

Captainjerky said:
Does anybody have a working link to 3.22?
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downloads.unrevoked.com/recovery/3.22/reflash_package.exe
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Thank you for the spectacular write-up, soniclude!!!
Is there a particular reason that you did not suggest using the no_data_limit_dalvik_moved mod?
Does it not work?

[/COLOR]Thank you for the spectacular write-up, soniclude!!!
Is there a particular reason that you did not suggest using the no_data_limit_dalvik_moved mod?
Does it not work?[/QUOTE]
I agree that this was an excellent how to. Thanks for the effort.
I used the no_data_limit_dalvik_moved mod and for some reason, my phone became really laggy. I'm on Pons CM7. 2. Now I'm a little hesitant to use any of the ext4 mods b/c I don't understand them too well. I'm not clear on why there is a partition in the first place. Why htc devs made it so small... Homework to do.
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk

Thanks cmlusco I used your method to unlock the 3G Hotspot on my phone and it worked like a charm.

Issue in Step 10
Thank you very much for the easy to follow directions soniclude. I went through all the steps and when I got to step 10, I ran into an issue. After clicking on "Reboot into Recovery" the phone restarts and goes to the white htc screen. After that the screen just goes black with thin white lines down the sides and stays like that. So I never see the blue options. Has anyone come across this? If so, what do I do from there?

I get the message: failed to root. is your firmware too new? What now?
Is there anything I can do now to revert my firmware so I can gain root.

joeyz400 said:
I get the message: failed to root. is your firmware too new? What now?
Is there anything I can do now to revert my firmware so I can gain root.
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If your on 2.3.4 you need to follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400 to root and get s-off.

I understand I could downgrade to 2.2 to get s off but only after I gain root. It seems I can't get rooted because I am running 2.3?
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It looks like the only step diffrent from the link you posted and this one is to run unrevoked as admin

I think I know what is wrong. The link to Unrevoked 3.22 is not working so I googled it and 3.22 came up but it was actually 3.32 that was downloaded and I can't find 3.22 anywhere. Does anyone have a copy of 3.22?

I found the correct 3.22 and now my Incredible is Incredible!!!! Rooted and it feels so good
Thanks for such a great thread!!!!

SWEEEEEET This worked awesome.

New to Bravo, ROM help

Putting the sob story behind, I pulled this Bravo out of the closet and really miss some of the more advanced android features, so here I am.
Reading through the forums I think I need a ROM with at least Android 2.3.x. Stability is key, and I need everything to work (use camera everyday), so cutting edge ROMs are out for me.
Being a total noob, can someone advise which ROM is current, and point to some directions/links that worked for you? There is an abundance of information, and I have information overload.
So far, I rooted with superoneclick. Being a noob, that was a milestone! lol.
Thanks

Kilbert said:
Putting the sob story behind, I pulled this Bravo out of the closet and really miss some of the more advanced android features, so here I am.
Reading through the forums I think I need a ROM with at least Android 2.3.x. Stability is key, and I need everything to work (use camera everyday), so cutting edge ROMs are out for me.
Being a total noob, can someone advise which ROM is current, and point to some directions/links that worked for you? There is an abundance of information, and I have information overload.
So far, I rooted with superoneclick. Being a noob, that was a milestone! lol.
Thanks
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That's a good start. What you need to do next is install 2ndinit recovery using the app to do so. Found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212 I'm using the latest version and it works just fine.
But before that, you may want to install titanium backup to back up all of your apps.
For roms, my suggestion is to start with skeevy420's cm7 kang, which runs android 2.3.7. It's stable, really fast, and reliable. It's my current and every day rom. It's found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1755200 There are plenty of rom flashing tutorials out there if you do a little searching. Good luck! If you have any questions, just ask.

This may seem like a noobish question, but how do you install 2ndinit?
I downloaded SndInitDefy_2.3.apk - (4.16 MB)
Do I put it on the SD card?
Do I need a root explorer?
Gapp?
Thanks
JOhn

Check "allow applications from unknown sources" in settings. Put the .apk on the SD card, open a file explorer and select it to install the app. Then follow the instructions on the thread.
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Kilbert said:
This may seem like a noobish question, but how do you install 2ndinit?
I downloaded SndInitDefy_2.3.apk - (4.16 MB)
Do I put it on the SD card?
Do I need a root explorer?
Gapp?
Thanks
JOhn
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You might have to download the bravo sideload enabler from the market first.

Pardon the novel....
EDIT: This is the step by step that worked for me, a totally novice user. Compiled from all over these forums, and this thread. Thanks to Dr. Orange and Skeevy420 for helping me when I was totally stuck. I also suggest using directory Aa as suggested in skeevy420's post below, & having a full charge battery.
First, thanks for helping me. Pardon the wall of text, here is my plan (compiled from many places), I have completed up to and including step 14. I want to make sure I am on the correct path. I feel good until 18. I browsed the .zip archive of the kang download, I do not see the " gapp. file. "Where do I get it from? Thanks.
1) Factory reformat phone:
From the main home screen
tap menu
tap Settings
tap Privacy
tap Factory data reset
tap Reset phone
tap Erase everything. Confirm
2) On boot disable Motoblur by:
Press menu key (4 squares in lower left corner) and hold until keyboard pops up.
tap ?123
* tap ALT
* tap ABC
* tap e
* tap 123
* tap ALT
* tap ABC
* tap e
* tap b
* tap l
* tap u
* tap r
* tap o
* tap f
* tap f
3) Turn on USB debug
From the main home screen
* * * tap Applications
* * * tap Development
* * * tap USB Debugging (make green check)
4) Download/install Bravo drivers
http://www.motorola.com
5) Download/install superoneclick:
http://shortfuse.org/?page_id=2
6) Next connect phone via USB port with the computer
7) From Notifications pane on phone, change USB mode from Motorla Phone Portal (default) to USB mass storage.
8) In superoneclick:
Click Root button.
Phone will reboot twice.
You need wait for a while while the process completes.
9) Click Allow Non Market Apps:
Success is when you see a "1" value after checking NMA #1 & 2? (I assume - as this is where mine stopped for 1 1/2 hrs)
10) Verify @ Froyo (2.2.x):
Tap Settings
Tap About Phone
Want to see: Android Version 2.2.x
11) Download 2init & Gingerbread apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1032212
http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
12) Download Kang
http://www.mediafire.com/?s531o2ikkbquakd
13) Place files on SD card. [CM-7.2-Kang-2012-07-13.zip] [gapps-gb-20110828-signed] & [SndinitDefy 2.3.apk]
Use windows explorer/Dolphin to copy (I made a directory called ROM with kang/gapps & another 2init)
Connect via usb
Put the .apk & .zip on the SD card in correct directories,
Disconnect USB
14) Install 2 init:
Check that "allow applications from unknown sources" is on in settings.
Use phone file manager to browse where you put sndinint (in 13 above) and select sndinit to install the app.
Find app in phones installed apps list
read instructions, install
Green light will be on, but will turn off after a while.
15) (Re)boot into 2ndInit recovery by
make sure the usb unplugged from computer .
Shut-down/reboot.
While booting watch for blue led to flash during boot, hit volume down once it flashes blue.(about 8-10 seconds in)
If done properly, you will see 2ndinit menu.
16) From 2ndinit menu:
Select Recovery
Select Custom Recovery
Select Wipe Data and Factory Reset
Select Yes -- delete all user data
Go to "Install zip from sdcard"
Choose zip from sdcard
Locate the zip and select it*
Select Yes
Go to "Install zip from sdcard"
Locate Gapps and select it
Select Yes
Select Go Back
Select Reboot -- You're done and using a custom rom
reboot takes a while- do not give up.

Make sure to wipe cache as well on 16. Sometimes it causes problems if you don't.

Here's the link for the gapps you'll need for CM7.
http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
To save posts, I'll start on an updated CM7 tomorrow. There's been brown-outs and thunderstorms lately and one happed to happen as I was updating two weeks ago and the power outage wiped my android build partition; so I just shut my pc down and have only been on for maybe 30 minutes in the past two weeks. I don't want to risk damaging my 8 year old pc due to crappy weather combined with an over used power grid during 105F temps. Hope ya'll understand.
Luckily the temps down to around 95F and the power hasn't cut out for two days. Still hot and humid, but much better than the past few weeks. I normally don't say this, but I hope Louisiana or Texas gets slammed with a hurricane so we can get some good rain here in Arkansas.

I am on step 15. I can boot into 2ndinit.
SO close. Thanks a lot guys!
I am confused now. Do I choose Boot> 2nd init now? and reboot? or something else?
Will I then be able to see the wipe menus?

Kilbert said:
I am on step 15. I can boot into 2ndinit.
SO close. Thanks a lot guys!
I am confused now. Do I choose Boot> 2nd init now? and reboot? or something else?
Will I then be able to see the wipe menus?
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Once your in the 2nd-Init bootmenu, do this.
Select Recovery
Select Custom Recovery
Select Wipe Data and Factory Reset
Select Yes -- delete all user data
Go to "Install zip from sdcard"
Choose zip from sdcard
Locate the zip and select it*
Select Yes
Go to "Install zip from sdcard"
Locate Gapps and select it
Select Yes
Reboot -- You're done and using a custom rom
*I put all my zips in a folder called "Aa". "Aa" happens to be the first folder on my sdcard and its less wear on the volume rocker than to find the zips when they're in places like Downloads or as a single file on the root directory of the card. Its also faster since you can access all you're zips in a literal second (flash hundreds of roms and you'll see what I mean).

THANKS! WOOOHOOO! 1 more ? please?
ITS ALIVE!!!!
THANKS skeevy420 & Dr. Orange for your time explaining this to a noob. I never expected to get this level of help from a developer forum.
If I can get one more answer- How do I enable or obtain the voice recognition keyboard that I used in my old phone? (I have a VERY difficult time typing)
Thanks

Kilbert said:
ITS ALIVE!!!!
THANKS skeevy420 & Dr. Orange for your time explaining this to a noob. I never expected to get this level of help from a developer forum.
If I can get one more answer- How do I enable or obtain the voice recognition keyboard that I used in my old phone? (I have a VERY difficult time typing)
Thanks
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Try downloading voice search from the market. It might add the microphone button to your keyboard. I'm not certain though.

Kilbert said:
ITS ALIVE!!!!
THANKS skeevy420 & Dr. Orange for your time explaining this to a noob. I never expected to get this level of help from a developer forum.
If I can get one more answer- How do I enable or obtain the voice recognition keyboard that I used in my old phone? (I have a VERY difficult time typing)
Thanks
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Definitely install Google voice search, but try installing an aftermarket keyboard. I use swiftkey 3, works amazing on the small bravo screen and it has build in voice typing.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using xda app-developers app

SD cared swap?
Google voice keyboard is working, and I will try that alternative keyboard thanks,
Does anyone know how difficult it is to swap sd cards? I forgot to put my large sd in, and have a small 2gb in there now.
Do I just put the card in, format it, and put the roms back on?
thansk

avr-Illithian said:
Definitely install Google voice search, but try installing an aftermarket keyboard. I use swiftkey 3, works amazing on the small bravo screen and it has build in voice typing.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using xda app-developers app
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+1 for SwiftKey 3. I got it on the 10 year anniversary for $0.10 usd. It's amazing. There's a swiftkey free, which would basically convince you to purchase the full version.
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Kilbert said:
Google voice keyboard is working, and I will try that alternative keyboard thanks,
Does anyone know how difficult it is to swap sd cards? I forgot to put my large sd in, and have a small 2gb in there now.
Do I just put the card in, format it, and put the roms back on?
thansk
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You can use your computer and just copy the contents from one card and paste it on the other with no issues. You might need an sd card adapter for the other microsd card you'll be copying the data to. I've done this twice from the stock 2gb card to a 4gb, then to a 16gb. It's nice that it is so simple, as it shoulf be.

Just did the copy from one sd to another- worked perfectly.
I used "show hidden files" so I was sure to get everything.
Thank you!

Kilbert said:
Just did the copy from one sd to another- worked perfectly.
I used "show hidden files" so I was sure to get everything.
Thank you!
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I had a Bravo, it was my first Android.
I think it's time to flash the little thing!
Thank you so much for the comprehensive to do list. I flashed my note, so I have some exposure, but your list should def help me stay on track. Thank you once again!

It should work fine, I edited it after I completed each step (so others could follow it- including me if I needed to at a later time). The only step that left me with a huge question was #9- allow non market apps. The software did not give any indication it was completed or successful.
These guys in the thread (Skeevy420, Dr. Orange, avr-Illithian) really helped me out when I had issues. The reading and conflicting information/dead links etc.. was overwhelming.
Good Luck. I am really happy with the new ROM. I have had no issues with it.