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Anyone else think that the Nexus S is kind of a disappointment?
There's nothing revolutionary or really exciting about it. It's specs sound like it's just another Galaxy S device. No dual core, no HSDPA+, nada.
Now, to be clear, I'm talking just about the device itself. Not Gingerbread. Gingerbread looks hot. Curious to hear what you folks think about the device.
No sd card slot but has a 16 gig storage. I guessing Google corrected the available memory issue with 2. 3
I think it to early to draw up any conclusions with what we have on hand.
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It's a Samsung which for me, after my experience with the Vibrant, equals 'never again'.
If anything I do hope that the Nexus S, by extension, will provide some much needed relief to those who are sticking it out with their Vibrants, etc.
Just my take, I'm not a phone buff or geek, I just want my device to work properly, which is why I switched to the G2.
I've had a vibrant. Felt too cheap to me. Sad part it wasn't cheap. Paid 500 for it. The lack of support and gps issue is what turned me away. It was a nice phone. Just not my style. As I'm sure just by looking at the nexsus s, they will have the same issues. But I could be wrong. Maybe google will put a flame under samsungs butt and make them correct their errors in a fast manner.
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smutek said:
It's a Samsung
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That simple little statement is what made me turn my head. I love Google, and I think them working to make a phone with a company means it will be a good phone. I believe Samsung will get more respect from this phone, but Samsung's plastic has always stood out and this phone looks like it has just as much as any other Samsung phone. It has decent specs, nothing groundbreaking by any means, but just as nice as any other smart phone out now.
Remind me, wasn't the N1 the first phone to have a 1GHz processor? At least one of the first? I figured Google's second phone would be VERY top of the line instead of average.
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Remind me, wasn't the N1 the first phone to have a 1GHz processor? At least one of the first? I figured Google's second phone would be VERY top of the line instead of average.
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Yeeeep. It was the very first. Big reason I dumped my Droid for the Nexus One way back when. That and I didn't like Verizon's service.
That's part of the reason I was so disappointed with the specs on the Nexus S. Nothing revolutionary again. Just another Galaxy S.
If I were holding out for the Nexus S, then yes, I would be disappointed. But I wasn't since I'm still in love with my G2. Can't believe Google would let this thing go to T-Mobile USA with those specs. Not dual core, no HSPA+, less ram than the MyTouch, less screen than the HD7, no hdmi out, not even a kickstand? Can a brother get a kickstand? And this is supposed to be the flagship Android phone? Ha, it won't even be the best phone at T-Mobile.
KeithRVA said:
If I were holding out for the Nexus S, then yes, I would be disappointed. But I wasn't since I'm still in love with my G2. Can't believe Google would let this thing go to T-Mobile USA with those specs. Not dual core, no HSPA+, less ram than the MyTouch, less screen than the HD7, no hdmi out, not even a kickstand? Can a brother get a kickstand? And this is supposed to be the flagship Android phone? Ha, it won't even be the best phone at T-Mobile.
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*golf clap*
+1
I have already heard it reviewed as Nexus 1.5, not 2.0 !
Umm, isn't this is a bit off-topic ?
*runs and hides*
unremarked said:
Nothing revolutionary again. Just another Galaxy S.
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exactly wut i was thinking. oh and wuts your avatar? isnt that the symbol from reboot?
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oh and wuts your avatar? isnt that the symbol from reboot?
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Indeed. Great show. Kids these days don't know what they're missing.
long story short, its a disappointment.
TBH, the only thing I am actually DISAPOINTED with is the lack of an Orion processor... rumor had it that it was delayed because of that issue! What is gonna happen is in 2 months all the tegra 2 devices are gonna start showing up and your "Flagship" device is already sub-par/obsolete
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TBH, the only thing I am actually DISAPOINTED with is the lack of an Orion processor... rumor had it that it was delayed because of that issue! What is gonna happen is in 2 months all the tegra 2 devices are gonna start showing up and your "Flagship" device is already sub-par/obsolete
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just in time for a Nexus 2 ...
new **** happens. there's money to be made beforehand.
Sooo disappointed
First of all, I love my N1 and sorry for the long post but i have to vent.
I bought a Nexus One in February when it came for T-mobile only and then gave it away to my brother in law who had T-Mobile when the AT&T N1 came out and bought that. My contract with AT&T has been up for a couple of months now and i was really hoping for a device (from google) that would be better than the N1 (for future proofing for at least 6 months).
Well this device is better than the N1 but not enough to ditch the N1 and get this. Here are the reasons:
Biggest disappointment: Only a 5 MP camera still? Come on Google? The EVO has an 8MP camera and has been out for months. I know phone cameras really aren't meant to replace traditional digital cameras but my sisters EVO takes pictures that are great (in the correct light) and if i had that i wouldn't even buy a new digital camera.
Second biggest disappointment: Not CDMA. I want to switch to sprint or verizon. If Google/ Samsung comes out with a CDMA version i might overlook the other disappointments and ditch the N1.
Now other reasons why Nexus S is not really that much better than the N1 to warrant another $529.
Processor: I don't know too much about the speed difference in the processors but i'm assuming they will roughly perform the same. However, i think within next couple of months new Android / Non-Android phones will come out with better processors and this will be outdated. I must add though, i haven't really seen any lag on the 1 ghz.
Video: I'm guessing the Nexus S will record 720p video, but so does my N1 (with cyanogen) and so does the EVO and many many other devices. 1080 would have been the next step and another reason i might have upgraded. Not on my top priority list though.
I don't really care that much about that NFC thing. I am curious to try it, but not enough to shell out $529 (i don't want contracts). Once more vendors support this it will become more important but not at this point.
Nexus S will probably be better for 3D gaming as the GPU on N1 supposedly sucks. I'm assuming the gingerbread advantage for 3d gaming will also be applicable to N1 but Nexus S will probably have a better GPU. I don't care about this too much because i don't play much 3d games on phones anyway but other people might weigh this more.
Yes to me its a Flopfor the the simple fact its just a google version of Galaxy S. BUT then again, after my experiance with my behold II, i will NEVER buy a samsung phone again, thats just me though... Besides my G2 is great been a while since i had a phone i was happy with.
adil06944 said:
First of all, I love my N1 and sorry for the long post but i have to vent.
I bought a Nexus One in February when it came for T-mobile only and then gave it away to my brother in law who had T-Mobile when the AT&T N1 came out and bought that. My contract with AT&T has been up for a couple of months now and i was really hoping for a device (from google) that would be better than the N1 (for future proofing for at least 6 months).
Well this device is better than the N1 but not enough to ditch the N1 and get this. Here are the reasons:
Biggest disappointment: Only a 5 MP camera still? Come on Google? The EVO has an 8MP camera and has been out for months. I know phone cameras really aren't meant to replace traditional digital cameras but my sisters EVO takes pictures that are great (in the correct light) and if i had that i wouldn't even buy a new digital camera.
Second biggest disappointment: Not CDMA. I want to switch to sprint or verizon. If Google/ Samsung comes out with a CDMA version i might overlook the other disappointments and ditch the N1.
Now other reasons why Nexus S is not really that much better than the N1 to warrant another $529.
Processor: I don't know too much about the speed difference in the processors but i'm assuming they will roughly perform the same. However, i think within next couple of months new Android / Non-Android phones will come out with better processors and this will be outdated. I must add though, i haven't really seen any lag on the 1 ghz.
Video: I'm guessing the Nexus S will record 720p video, but so does my N1 (with cyanogen) and so does the EVO and many many other devices. 1080 would have been the next step and another reason i might have upgraded. Not on my top priority list though.
I don't really care that much about that NFC thing. I am curious to try it, but not enough to shell out $529 (i don't want contracts). Once more vendors support this it will become more important but not at this point.
Nexus S will probably be better for 3D gaming as the GPU on N1 supposedly sucks. I'm assuming the gingerbread advantage for 3d gaming will also be applicable to N1 but Nexus S will probably have a better GPU. I don't care about this too much because i don't play much 3d games on phones anyway but other people might weigh this more.
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Agreed. I'll be sticking with my overclocked G2 until we see 1.5ghz Dual Core chips with all of the bells and whistles these companies are cooking up.
CDMA blows
I'm been really annoyed with all the hate being spewed about the Nexus S over the last several days. I've been meaning to post why I think most of the hate is seriously misinformed or not fully thought out, but I came across this post on Android and Me and it sums up almost exactly how I feel.
Credit to jivemaster and Android and Me:
I am first in line for a Nexus S. I’m not sure what people are waiting for. This is Google’s phone for the next 11-12 months like the N1 was. Great support, great features. It uses the top tier hardware available to date. Best screen in the industry, best CPU, best GPU in a phone. Sure it’s no dual-core, but that disappointment is purely a consequence of the stupid rumours that have plagued this device since its conception.
This will be what the Galaxy S should have been. Great hardware fully controlled by Google.
For heavens sake, the SGX540 is a truly epic GPU, and vastly more powerful than the 535 found in the iphone and ipad. Apple’s devices run great games, and the Nexus S trumps both devices with its power. Sure we’ve seen it before in the Galaxy S, but the Galaxy S is a pure Samsung phone, crippled by it’s unoptimised OS, practically no support is given to it, the poor thing is still waiting for froyo in most of America. Because of this, we have not seen the true power of the hummingbird. That is until now. And it will be glorious.
The Nexus S is not last gen. It’s current gen. It just missed the dual-core boat. And people are fixated on it.
This very website said it was hard to believe that the Nexus S could be released with a dual-core, but plenty of other websites/blogs went nuts reporting the release setback was due to a dual-core upgrade. Everyone got set on the rumours and when this was released there was nothing but disappointment.
People are too busy thinking what the Nexus S could have been.
It’s silly really. Dual core is not ready. Dual core is not supported in any android revision to date, honeycomb may change this, but I highly doubt the upcoming tegra phones will sport honeycomb on release, or anytime soon after release. That’s being delusional. Manufacturers have taken so long to release these tegra phones, and these manufacturers are catastrophically slow with updates. I’ll be surprised frankly if they ship with gingerbread.
Good luck getting your updates on these tegra phones in a timely manner.
Tegra is unbelievably powerful, no question, but in the hands of device manufacturers I think performance will vary greatly – device manufacturers tend to throw in great hardware and then cripple it with absolutely shocking OS revisions and software optimisation.
You’re guaranteed a lot of great optimisation with the Nexus S, but not with other products.
You really only have the LG Star and Motorola Olympus to choose from if you want tegra, and they were running froyo when we last saw them. The LG Star just looks horrible as far as build quality is concerned and video demo’s show it lag, and the Olympus is a AT&T phone, so if you hate that network you’re screwed on that front.
Plus remember both with be nowhere as hackable as the Nexus S, which will see huge dev support just as the N1 before it. You’ll be lucky if these tegra phones get any decent root access. Motorola loves the efuse concept. It’s crackable but it will never have the simplicity of the Nexus S.
And lastly, who doesn’t want the phone that developers are developing their stuff on? The Nexus S is THE benchmark for all future android phone applications. You’re guaranteed that apps will run as the developer intended on the Nexus S over any other phone in the Android ecosystem.
Embrace this phone and give it a damn chance. Google deserves that much.
Amen to that ^^^^ . For a moment I thought I was the only one getting a Nexus S.
I agree in spirit. I'm just salty about the lack of any notification LED and dock contact points. I want a device with polish... the N1's docking and notifications are still unrivaled, but they could at least have put those into their device.
I'll still probably get the phone and hope that some nice docks are in the pipeline so I can sell my N1 and the docks.
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I'm been really annoyed with all the hate being spewed about the Nexus S over the last several days. I've been meaning to post why I think most of the hate is seriously misinformed or not fully thought out, but I came across this post on Android and Me and it sums up almost exactly how I feel.
Credit to jivemaster and Android and Me:
I am first in line for a Nexus S. I’m not sure what people are waiting for. This is Google’s phone for the next 11-12 months like the N1 was. Great support, great features. It uses the top tier hardware available to date. Best screen in the industry, best CPU, best GPU in a phone. Sure it’s no dual-core, but that disappointment is purely a consequence of the stupid rumours that have plagued this device since its conception.
This will be what the Galaxy S should have been. Great hardware fully controlled by Google.
For heavens sake, the SGX540 is a truly epic GPU, and vastly more powerful than the 535 found in the iphone and ipad. Apple’s devices run great games, and the Nexus S trumps both devices with its power. Sure we’ve seen it before in the Galaxy S, but the Galaxy S is a pure Samsung phone, crippled by it’s unoptimised OS, practically no support is given to it, the poor thing is still waiting for froyo in most of America. Because of this, we have not seen the true power of the hummingbird. That is until now. And it will be glorious.
The Nexus S is not last gen. It’s current gen. It just missed the dual-core boat. And people are fixated on it.
This very website said it was hard to believe that the Nexus S could be released with a dual-core, but plenty of other websites/blogs went nuts reporting the release setback was due to a dual-core upgrade. Everyone got set on the rumours and when this was released there was nothing but disappointment.
People are too busy thinking what the Nexus S could have been.
It’s silly really. Dual core is not ready. Dual core is not supported in any android revision to date, honeycomb may change this, but I highly doubt the upcoming tegra phones will sport honeycomb on release, or anytime soon after release. That’s being delusional. Manufacturers have taken so long to release these tegra phones, and these manufacturers are catastrophically slow with updates. I’ll be surprised frankly if they ship with gingerbread.
Good luck getting your updates on these tegra phones in a timely manner.
Tegra is unbelievably powerful, no question, but in the hands of device manufacturers I think performance will vary greatly – device manufacturers tend to throw in great hardware and then cripple it with absolutely shocking OS revisions and software optimisation.
You’re guaranteed a lot of great optimisation with the Nexus S, but not with other products.
You really only have the LG Star and Motorola Olympus to choose from if you want tegra, and they were running froyo when we last saw them. The LG Star just looks horrible as far as build quality is concerned and video demo’s show it lag, and the Olympus is a AT&T phone, so if you hate that network you’re screwed on that front.
Plus remember both with be nowhere as hackable as the Nexus S, which will see huge dev support just as the N1 before it. You’ll be lucky if these tegra phones get any decent root access. Motorola loves the efuse concept. It’s crackable but it will never have the simplicity of the Nexus S.
And lastly, who doesn’t want the phone that developers are developing their stuff on? The Nexus S is THE benchmark for all future android phone applications. You’re guaranteed that apps will run as the developer intended on the Nexus S over any other phone in the Android ecosystem.
Embrace this phone and give it a damn chance. Google deserves that much.
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+1
I remember how pissed everyone was when Google closed the web store thinking they caved into the carriers demands and there would never be a pure android phone again.
So now that Google actually comes out with an even better phone everyone wants to complain? I could care less if its a dual core or doesn't have an SD card or wasn't as game changing as the Nexus One.
All I care about is the concept:
- Google phone with pure android
- Better specs than Nexus One
- Can be used w/ t-zones
People complaining it wasn't a game changer need to be happy there at least is an option now in case our Nexus One is lost. I know I sure am
You sure it's going to be the benchmark for the entire next year?
Sure it'll be the benchmark for next 6 months i'd say but heck, neither LG Star nor Motorola Olympus is ready yet and why they were running 2.2? Because they were made before Gingerbread was even ready for the Nexus S. They were built from scratch not from an existing product. My opinion, I love my Nexus One. It was the true innovation the time it came out. Who had AMOLED screen and snapdragon processor on one phone back in June? except for HD2, nobody really did. It set the benchmark for every android device to beat until now. I'm not saying the Nexus S don't deserve the Nexus name or anything. It's just isn't worth the $529 for what it's lacking. not the dual core processor either.
There is a Nexus S forum now
The Nexus S is a fine phone. As a developer, I'll probably get one in the next six months or so. But I am annoyed by the lack of a microSD slot and LED notifications. I have a 32GB microSD in my N1 right now and have it nearly filled with music. I also have come to depend on being able to glance across the room and see my N1's trackball flashing brightly in a color that tells me just what kind of communication my phone received.
So I'm not at all a hater of the NS, but I am sad that it drops some really nifty features.
Amen.
I shall be getting this phone within the next 3-4 months even after my disappointment with the lack of an SD card slot, LED, and trackball.
Ita a beautiful powerful phone.
But again I cant see why anyone would "love" it coming from N1.
Id consider it but only because Tmo seems to get cute phones instead of the big screen full featured Evos/Droid Xs of the android world.
The decision making behind the phone is just odd. People are calling it out justifiably. If this was anything but "the next google phone" its be another blip on the radar.
I'm not feeling it because there's no Micro SD card support, no LED notifications, and that crappy-feeling build quality. I HATE the Galaxy S line of phones because they feel cheap. I love how my N1 is made of real metal, and feels solid and has some heft to it.
Now, would I love a Nexus S? Sure. Would I want to dish out $529 for one to replace my awesome N1? No way in hell.
wang1404 said:
You sure it's going to be the benchmark for the entire next year?
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LOL
wang1404 said:
Sure it'll be the benchmark for next 6 months i'd say
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You're being generous, IMO.
wang1404 said:
but heck, neither LG Star nor Motorola Olympus is ready yet and why they were running 2.2? Because they were made before Gingerbread was even ready for the Nexus S. They were built from scratch not from an existing product.
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Spot on, Wang.
wang1404 said:
My opinion, I love my Nexus One. It was the true innovation the time it came out. Who had AMOLED screen and snapdragon processor on one phone back in June? except for HD2, nobody really did. It set the benchmark for every android device to beat until now.
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Agreed.
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I'm not saying the Nexus S don't deserve the Nexus name or anything.
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Fine, I'll say it. The S isn't today's version of the 1, and shouldn't have received a Nexus name.
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It's just isn't worth the $529 for what it's lacking. not the dual core processor either.
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The S has some advantages over the 1. Let's all just admit that now. Wang and I are in agreement here over this point: Those advantages, to us, are minor and are not worth ditching the N1. Wang and I will be waiting to see what drops in Q1, early Q2 at the latest.
The S isn't anywhere near the "superphone" that the 1 was when it dropped. Nice? Sure. Decent specs? Sure. The N1 raised the bar SUBSTANTIALLY. The S only raises it incrementally.
My .02.
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I also have come to depend on being able to glance across the room and see my N1's trackball flashing brightly in a color that tells me just what kind of communication my phone received.
So I'm not at all a hater of the NS, but I am sad that it drops some really nifty features.
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1. AMEN...I just dont think alot of people understand just how invaluable this is. Its ridiculously easy to prioritize messages and hands down the easiest way to get notified. Plus for those that are hearing impaired its the only way to get differentiated notifications ((since obviously they cant do ring tones)). Evo/DroidX/MT4G/G2...do any of these phones have it ?
2. Thats all it is in a nutshell. You take the N2 give it hummingbird ,4" SAMOLED, the new form factor ,FF camera ,GB ,NFC we'd all be standing online for it.
But you add only a few things but take away some very important features to many ??
Three steps forward two steps back isnt a good way to make a mark.
The Nexus S will get love, it deserves love, but won't be getting any from me (that does NOT mean I'm a hater, just that I won't be getting one).
* As Schmidtty said, the N1 was meant to push the hardware platform, by using ahead-of-its'-time specs and it did. The Nexus S has nice specs to be sure, but it isn't running way ahead of the pack challenging others to catch-up like the N1 did. The Nexus S is the next "step", the N1 was a big "leap".
* No microSD slot?
* Funky SD/Internal/External partitioning?
Anyway, I'll be keeping my N1 until Uncle Schmidtty comes out with the Nexus Whatever that's got multi-cores, monster GPU, a 5" screen with zillion-point multi-touch and "retina" destroying image density and 16gb /system and microSD slot for whatever I want.
I think it's logical to omit the trackpad, HTC used to say that they still have it on phones to make it easy to navigate and select text. If they already solved that ( as Google says) with the Gingerbread easy text selection and editing then the only reason to have the trackpad is to wake up the phone, at least this is the way I use it.
The loss of trackball notifications has 0 effect.
Check out backlight notifications for the Galaxy S phones.
Works just the same.
Paul22000 said:
The loss of trackball notifications has 0 effect.
Check out backlight notifications for the Galaxy S phones.
Works just the same.
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Hey Paul since your one of the guys on Xda whose opinion I respect alot, what are your thoughts on the Nexus S? Do you plan on getting one?
Namuna said:
The Nexus S will get love, it deserves love, but won't be getting any from me (that does NOT mean I'm a hater, just that I won't be getting one).
* As Schmidtty said, the N1 was meant to push the hardware platform, by using ahead-of-its'-time specs and it did. The Nexus S has nice specs to be sure, but it isn't running way ahead of the pack challenging others to catch-up like the N1 did. The Nexus S is the next "step", the N1 was a big "leap".
* No microSD slot?
* Funky SD/Internal/External partitioning?
Anyway, I'll be keeping my N1 until Uncle Schmidtty comes out with the Nexus Whatever that's got multi-cores, monster GPU, a 5" screen with zillion-point multi-touch and "retina" destroying image density and 16gb /system and microSD slot for whatever I want.
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push hardware platform ahead of its time???? if i am not mistaken, at the time of its release, the nexus one was the third phone released with the snapdragon. first one being toshiba g01 and then the hd2. like 2 months later , the n1 came out. so i dont think this was a revolutionary step.
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push hardware platform ahead of its time???? if i am not mistaken, at the time of its release, the nexus one was the third phone released with the snapdragon. first one being toshiba g01 and then the hd2. like 2 months later , the n1 came out. so i dont think this was a revolutionary step.
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I know he didn't mean it, but he should've said Android phones. I don't believe any Android phones were out with the Snapdragon at the time of the N1's release. I also don't believe there were any phones (Android phones) with AMOLED screens at the time.
The NS has it's contour display, NFC, and Google's support behind it.
But it isn't amazing. It doesn't blow anything out the water. Not much to "oooo, ahhh" about..
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I know he didn't mean it, but he should've said Android phones. I don't believe any Android phones were out with the Snapdragon at the time of the N1's release. I also don't believe there were any phones (Android phones) with AMOLED screens at the time.
The NS has it's contour display, NFC, and Google's support behind it.
But it isn't amazing. It doesn't blow anything out the water. Not much to "oooo, ahhh" about..
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The only innovative thing n1 came with at that time was the amoled screen. you're right.
About android phones, the first snapdragon on android was by the Liquid a1.
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The only innovative thing n1 came with at that time was the amoled screen. you're right.
About android phones, the first snapdragon on android was by the Liquid a1.
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Can't believe I didn't hear of the Liquid at the time, it doesn't even seem anyone even compared the Nexus to the Liquid..
with this weeks CES you would think that, yeah, ok, decent phone line ups. But to completely destroy i mean, ANNIHILATE this precious device seems a little too soon
not so.
Between the HTC Thunderbolt (HAS A ****EN 1900mah battery) and GET READY FOR IT: SAMSUNG INFUSE 4G...
...the nexus S looks like a motorola startech.
i feel used and abused. samsung upped the res, size of screen, added 4g and is added a 1.2ghz cpu and IS THIN AS HELL.
god help me. i PRAY developers stick with the plan and make this nexus S community live a long and hearty life like the nexus one. But i just keep feeling more and more that i jumped on this a tad to fast...hey..at least im still off contract?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/...ounced-for-atandt-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus/
The phone does look pretty awesome. However, I'd stick with a pure google phone over an At&T + touchwiz device that will be getting OS upgrades ages after us. Also, I think it is a 1.2 ghz single core cpu.
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with this weeks CES you would think that, yeah, ok, decent phone line ups. But to completely destroy i mean, ANNIHILATE this precious device seems a little too soon
not so.
Between the HTC Thunderbolt (HAS A ****EN 1900mah battery) and GET READY FOR IT: SAMSUNG INFUSE 4G...
...the nexus S looks like a motorola startec.
i feel used and abused. samsung upped the res, size of screen, added 4g and is added a 1.2ghz DUAL CORE and IS THIN AS HELL.
god help me. i PRAY developers stick with the plan and make this nexus S community live a long and hearty life like the nexus one. But i just keep feeling more and more that i jumped on this a tad to fast...hey..at least im still off contract?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/...ounced-for-atandt-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus/
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I predict there is going to be a **** load of these threads this week. so let me get it outa the way
this is how technology works! Tech is rapidly improving at an exponetial rate, the NS was not a jump ahead like the N1, is the NS life going to be shorter than the N1, oh hell yes
you knew when you bought a NS what it had and what it didnt have. do you really want a phone with touchwiz and that wont see updates for months after initial release? i sure dont.
dudeimgeorge said:
with this weeks CES you would think that, yeah, ok, decent phone line ups. But to completely destroy i mean, ANNIHILATE this precious device seems a little too soon
not so.
Between the HTC Thunderbolt (HAS A ****EN 1900mah battery) and GET READY FOR IT: SAMSUNG INFUSE 4G...
...the nexus S looks like a motorola startec.
i feel used and abused. samsung upped the res, size of screen, added 4g and is added a 1.2ghz DUAL CORE and IS THIN AS HELL.
god help me. i PRAY developers stick with the plan and make this nexus S community live a long and hearty life like the nexus one. But i just keep feeling more and more that i jumped on this a tad to fast...hey..at least im still off contract?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/...ounced-for-atandt-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus/
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1) Not dual core. Article says " 1.2GHz single-core Hummingbird processor." More than likely this is just an overclocked out of the box version of the Hummingbird.
2) 4.5" is too big. 4.3" is too big. 4" is perfect.
3) Whoopdedoo about the cameras.
4) Whoopdedoo about 4G/HSPA+.
5) Frak TouchWIz
6) Frak Samsung handling the updates
7) Frak AT&T. They're going to screw with it because they don't want a good Android phone going against the iPhone.
8) Frak AT&T again for their network.
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unremarked said:
1) Not dual core. Article says " 1.2GHz single-core Hummingbird processor." More than likely this is just an overclocked out of the box version of the Hummingbird.
2) 4.5" is too big. 4.3" is too big. 4" is perfect.
3) Whoopdedoo about the cameras.
4) Whoopdedoo about 4G/HSPA+.
5) Frak TouchWIz
6) Frak Samsung handling the updates
7) Frak AT&T. They're going to screw with it because they don't want a good Android phone going against the iPhone.
8) Frak AT&T again for their network.
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Pretty sure its just an OC'd hummingbird, doubt Samsung would start up another line just for 1.2ghz hummingbirds....
My first android phone was Nexus One. My second android phone is Nexus S.
Do you know WHY?
Because I want the pure Google experience and skip all of that BLOATWARE applications that makes future updates of Android delayed.
Spec-wise yeah it's awesome, but considering every US carrier is still waiting for the 2.2 update I think I'm gonna ride this Nexus S thing out and see where it takes me. Having direct Google support and knowing I'll get timely updates is more important to me than having the baddest phone on the block for all of 6 months until the next powerhouse comes along.
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Oh well, I think that's fine to skip this 4.5" phone
We could enjoy this Nexus S with Android 2.3.1 (who knows it will get 2.4 on Feb? MWC!) ...
And later on Android Honeycomb IF it is 3.0 !
Bottom line, that phone will wait early 2012 to get what we would be getting mid year 2011 (Google IO?) ...
We can place a bet to guess when the old Samsung Galaxy S will get 2.3.1
And believe me, 2012 there will be a new Nexus X ... and repeat ...
So, yes, I don't mind getting not-so-up-to-date-hardware as long as I will get the-most-up-to-date-software !
The only really frustrating thing is that the Infuse has a SAMOLED Plus screen, "that features a 50 percent boost in sub-pixel count, promising improvements both in contrast and outdoor readability." (Source: Engadget)
OP has all his facts messed up,
1) The HTC thunderbolt DOES NOT have a 1900mah battery, it has a 1230mah battery identical to the Desire HD
2)The Samsung Infuse 4G IS NOT dual-core, it's an overclocked Hummingbird
Seriously, why are you complaining, the Nexus S is availble now and using the most powerful hardware that was availble at his very moment.
These phones being announced today are announced models that would be available for people in the future.
And, none of those phones are launching with Gingerbread an they have custom skins painted all over
The phone has a TBD release date. Meaning it's gonna line up with ATT hsps+ release schedule, meaning you can expect this phone to be released near april at the earliest.
gogol said:
Oh well, I think that's fine to skip this 4.5" phone
We could enjoy this Nexus S with Android 2.3.1 (who knows it will get 2.4 on Feb? MWC!) ...
And later on Android Honeycomb IF it is 3.0 !
Bottom line, that phone will wait early 2012 to get what we would be getting mid year 2011 (Google IO?) ...
We can place a bet to guess when the old Samsung Galaxy S will get 2.3.1
And believe me, 2012 there will be a new Nexus X ... and repeat ...
So, yes, I don't mind getting not-so-up-to-date-hardware as long as I will get the-most-up-to-date-software !
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My logic is like this. You can have the most badass computer on the planet but if its running Windows ME it aint ****
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2) 4.5" is too big. 4.3" is too big. 4" is perfect.
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Agreed, i tried to live with Desire HD and it was just far to big for me.
The Nexus S 4" is indeed perfect
The Nexus S is all about a pure Google experience, i.e., no crappy skin, no stripped down OS, and timely updates.
It's rather simple: if you bought the Nexus S for its hardware and not its software, you bought the wrong phone.
I didn't get the Nexus S because it had awesome specs and bragging rights. I got it because it was unlocked, off-contract, crapware-free and with os updates directly from Google.
Even if all those wonderful new phones had been available and for sale 3 weeks ago, I would still have chosen the Nexus S. Because I want the freedom. Freedom is more important to me than wow factor and bragging rights.
you guys are right
unremarked said:
1) Not dual core. Article says " 1.2GHz single-core Hummingbird processor." More than likely this is just an overclocked out of the box version of the Hummingbird.
2) 4.5" is too big. 4.3" is too big. 4" is perfect.
3) Whoopdedoo about the cameras.
4) Whoopdedoo about 4G/HSPA+.
5) Frak TouchWIz
6) Frak Samsung handling the updates
7) Frak AT&T. They're going to screw with it because they don't want a good Android phone going against the iPhone.
8) Frak AT&T again for their network.
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no your right man, i mean, ive been on the pure google experience from day one. its just that the nexus one's life span in regards to staying on top is simply phenomenal and as the days passed and the devs worked away, it just got better and better. so i thought they would proportionatley stick with the same principles and apply that to the nexus s. and with tech especially the last 2-3 years have been exponentially ripping it up...im just wierded out by googles decision. besides, i think we all agree that...at&t is pretty much full blown AIDs
im only *****ing because the specs being upped so rappidly.
i will still stick it through and stay loving my pure google experience. i just expected google to see the horizon a tad bit further, thats all
p.s your all my best friends and i apologize for the typos and the nagging. but come one, you cant say a slight cringe isn't allowed with such a situation.
@shrivelfig well said man. your my boy
I will say it again, though I must admit I'm tiring of repeating myself in every thread that keeps popping up on this theme. Anyone who bought the Nexus S expecting its hardware to have staying power for more than a month or two was deluding themselves. We all knew it was based on a phone that had been around the better part of a year already, and that the CES was coming up in just a few weeks, at which we were certain to be bombarded with shiny new Android phones.
The only reason I would have (and still would) recommend the Nexus S is because of its vanilla Android stock firmware, unadulterated by manufacturer or carrier. To me, and many others, this is more important than any number of cores or millimeters shaved off the form factor. If you are not, however, a person for which this is true, you will find yourself disappointed by your Nexus S in the very near future.
Well looks like Samsung has finally decided to make an RGB SAMOLED panel... the article states an increase in subpixel capacity which to me means they switched to RGB and ditched pentile for this one. You'd definitely need it at 4.5", the fuzzyness of pentile at that size would be terrible.
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I will say it again, though I must admit I'm tiring of repeating myself in every thread that keeps popping up on this theme. Anyone who bought the Nexus S expecting its hardware to have staying power for more than a month or two was deluding themselves. We all knew it was based on a phone that had been around the better part of a year already, and that the CES was coming up in just a few weeks, at which we were certain to be bombarded with shiny new Android phones.
The only reason I would have (and still would) recommend the Nexus S is because of its vanilla Android stock firmware, unadulterated by manufacturer or carrier. To me, and many others, this is more important than any number of cores or millimeters shaved off the form factor. If you are not, however, a person for which this is true, you will find yourself disappointed by your Nexus S in the very near future.
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Anyone who buys any device expecting the hardware to last is living in a dream world. the N1 was a fluke, it was just so ahead of its time dont expect more N1 like devices any time soon IMHO technology is progressing rapidly
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
Alopez_45 said:
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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I watched all of CES and I've been following MWC a bit more loosely but not a single one of them makes me want to give up my Nexus S. If you could keep my SNS I'd love to have an HTC Pyramid on top of it but just for poops and giggles. The SNS is the best phone I've owned and I love it.
I feel the same way as you do, but you can also run stock on a Galaxy S II or Motorola Atrix, with Custom ROMs. Of course, it won't be the same as with the Nexus S.
I just like the Nexus s as a whole. What I mean to say with that is that stock Android and updates from Google isn't the only thing I like about the Nexus.
I feel the same. I haven't seen anything that I would want instead of my Nexus S. Vanilla Android beats all
I feel the same..
while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide
None of these new phones are appealing to me at all.
I'll only buy into the Nexus brand from now on. This phone has been everything I've ever wanted from an Android device.
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while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide
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and super amoled+. I'm looking forward to a 4" variant, if they make one.
Love my Nexus S. The hardware, the fact that is supported straight from Google, everything about it.
I'm not saying i'm not curious about the new dual core devices, but think about that for a minute: our single core phones go through a day - day and half with a 1540mA battery. Imagine the talk/standby time of those new phones with only 1650 and 1900 mA batteries. When sth just comes out, usually needs work. Like Win7, dual core phones, the android when it ws first launched.
So, i think i'm gonna wait a while before trying a new device.
Google Nexus S rules...
For the most part, I agree. There's nothing so appealing to make me want to ditch my current Nexus S, however, understand what "stock Android" means.
Yes, you get the latest Google updates, and you get the unhampered Android experience, but just be aware that Android is riddled with glitches ranging from minor annoyances to some pretty major issues. (Just to name a few off my head: keyboard issues, home screen icon and swiping issues, gallery issues, rebooting issues, SMS and MMS issues...)
As long as you understand that being on the Nexus line means you're essentially the "beta tester" for Google's Android iterations, then you shouldn't be disappointed. I'm just sharing my personal experience. I found many things critical about the Android experience on previous phones, but always had OEM skins to blame. On the NS, that excuse is invalid.
I too am fairly disappointed with all of the new phones (including the NS to an extent).
Atrix = Plastic, and has Moto's locked down bootloader (major negative, and if it wasn't so locked down, I may have made an exception for its cheaper build quality).
Inspire 4G = Nothing too impressive, still has HTCs horrible mic and speaker quality and probably a ****ty digitizer/touch screen.
HTCs entire new lineup: No dual core? No gingerbread for the Incredible? Minimal upgrades at best.
SGSII = Plastic.
Nexus S = Plastic.
I may be old fashioned, but can anyone other than HTC make a $600+ Android phone that isn't plastic? Or what? Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
Until then, the iPhone still has an edge over Android with their polished build quality. I'm probably going to get attacked with fanboi'ism (even though I've owned 3 Android devices in the last 2 years), but whatever... it's true... There always seems to be trade offs with Android devices, whether it's build, or OS fragmentation - it drives me crazy.
I'm going to be picking up an Android fun to bum around with, and it's most likely going to be the Nexus S when and if it arrives to Rogers, just because it's the next iteration of the Nexus One. I'll put up with the cheap build quality (I'll try really hard not to drop it) and call it a day.
Ill stay with my Nexy Sexy
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Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
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I 100% completely agree in that point
why it is so hard for all the manufacture to put all the best stuff together and make a perfect phone?
seems like every manufacture only specializes in 1 thing, but not the rest of the phone.
personally i wanted a phone for work and fun, so the Nexus S fit the profile, just a bit disappointing in the reception area, and speaker, it serves better as a PDA than a phone
for my girl i got her a Moto because it's radio and speaker perfect, it will always get a signal, it was designed as a phone, and it works as a phone
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).
I'm sold on the idea of a google backed phone. Now I just need to save up for one of these and find a way out of my contract with sprint. I am just tired of the run around with updates between carrier/mfg. I think I am over the need for having the latest and greatest and can settle down with one device for a while until the newest nexus comes around. A small trade off in my opinion as I will still have the latest OS and support from great devs and plenty of time to save for the next one. Last plus for me is being able to get on a month to month service and no more contracts. I'm on my way over guys, just saving up some cash then its on ;-)
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Have you seen the LG Optimus 2X reviews? Force closes and crashes left and right... talk about half baked.
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I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).
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So far none of these new phones make me want to give up my NS either.
Atrix - locked bootloader
SGS2 - too big, not a fan of the design - I want a search button!
LG 2x - its an LG lol
I may change my mind once I get to play with these phones
Alopez_45 said:
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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+1
I have a Nexus S and it's awesome. Stock Android is the only way to go.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm still thinking of getting one, even with all the phones on the horizon. My upgrade from T-Mobile isn't until July. Tax return is burning a hole in my pocket... If only they had a car dock like the Nexus One...
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I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
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Would it be dumb to get a dual core phone with QUAD CORE phones right around the corner?
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With the continued defiance of Sprint and Google to not upgrade our phones, and with ever better phones being released, I'm starting to think about whether to jump back to HTC ?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one
And check out the TERRIBLE results of the Nexus S
Anyone else ?
I care more about how easy the bootloader is to unlock. If I can flash an AOSP ROM I don't care about brand. The nexus as a concept is great but in reality it isn't much different than any other phone without an encrypted bootloader. I am sure the GS3 will beat the HTC One in everything as well. Every month or two a new phone will be announced that is top dog.
Wait until the HTC one series is out!! Looks good to me on the pictures and specs.
Greetzz, Jojoost.
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You do realize that benchmarks like those are performed on stock ROMs right?
And you also realize that most of those phones in the top results are dual-core, right? Why on earth would you expect the Nexus S to place with them? And the first benchmark is a bit suspect when it shows the Nexus One beating a Nexus S. Sorry, but no.
Seriously, though, my Nexus S with ICS on it runs just as fast as it did in Gingerbread. I dont notice any major slowdowns at all, and graphical/UI performance is just fine.
Have you asked yourself WHY you want a new phone? I'd love a Galaxy Nexus, but I see no point in it when my Nexus S runs just fine. Is upgrading going to save you time on your tasks? Maybe.....but by how much? And is the phone you upgrade to going to have an unlocked bootloader and ROM support? Remember the community you're in right now, because it's one of the best out there (the NS community).
Point being.....is it really worth it? I know for me, I'm sticking with my NS for atleast another 6-8 months. We've gone from dual-core to quad-core in a very short time, and things are just moving way too fast for me to be upgrading to anything at this point. Blink again and we'll have 16 core phones with brain sensors.
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You do realize that benchmarks like those are performed on stock ROMs right?
And you also realize that most of those phones in the top results are dual-core, right? Why on earth would you expect the Nexus S to place with them? And the first benchmark is a bit suspect when it shows the Nexus One beating a Nexus S. Sorry, but no.
Seriously, though, my Nexus S with ICS on it runs just as fast as it did in Gingerbread. I dont notice any major slowdowns at all, and graphical/UI performance is just fine.
Have you asked yourself WHY you want a new phone? I'd love a Galaxy Nexus, but I see no point in it when my Nexus S runs just fine. Is upgrading going to save you time on your tasks? Maybe.....but by how much? And is the phone you upgrade to going to have an unlocked bootloader and ROM support? Remember the community you're in right now, because it's one of the best out there (the NS community).
Point being.....is it really worth it? I know for me, I'm sticking with my NS for atleast another 6-8 months. We've gone from dual-core to quad-core in a very short time, and things are just moving way too fast for me to be upgrading to anything at this point. Blink again and we'll have 16 core phones with brain sensors.
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I unwillingly had to give up my nexus and now have a tmo g2 running cm7. Just ran a quadrant benchmark at 1.5 ghz. I'm very pleased with my score. Didn't think it would even come close to my nexus. I was wrong lol
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I personally am holding out for the SGS3, that thing is going to be a monster..
The way I look at it is, phones will be coming out one after another, each being better than the last, so you just gotta wait until one really catches your eye, and jump on it even with this, the phone you get will be outdated in less than a year, lol. Thats just the way phones are progressing
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With the continued defiance of Sprint and Google to not upgrade our phones, and with ever better phones being released, I'm starting to think about whether to jump back to HTC ?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one
And check out the TERRIBLE results of the Nexus S
Anyone else ?
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This is the phone I will be holding out for, hopefully Sprint will get it.
Finally an Android manufacturer is making a big move towards something that makes a lot of sense- MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF PHONE MODELS RELEASED EACH YEAR! I love the direction that Google is going but I have been disgusted with the direction the manufacturers are headed- more and more phones with bigger and bigger screens that they can't keep updated because there are too many phones to update. What HTC is doing is brilliant and will essentially eliminate fragmentation on HTC devices- hopefully Samsung will follow suit (though in many ways I prefer HTC devices).
I'm surprised Google hasn't mandated that manufacturers reduce the number of phones they're making. Every other mobile OS gets very timely updates except Android because of the extensive fragmentation. This trend by HTC may set a new standard for Android devices.
Personally, I could care less about benchmarks and any of Samsung's future phones. I'm dissatisfied with the performance of both the Wifi and Data reception and their ever increasing screen size- I'm sure the SGS3 will have a 5.5" screen or something similarly ridiculous. (I realize the similarly large screen size of the HTC One, I for one would opt for the V(?) or whichever one is the size of the Sensation).
Anyhoo, bravo HTC!
I fail to understand why HTC would put every possible bell and whistle on the One X, AND make it look beautiful, and then limit storage to 32GB.
A massive step forward though. By the time my upgrade comes along in late 2013 I should have a serious monster in my hands, and hopefully a good looking one too with good build quality (and a damn MicroSD Card slot).