So I don't not have my MT4G yet. Still have my MT3G chugging away. But I just ordered the 4 so i thought I would ask a couple of questions in preparation for mine arriving next week.
1st. How do you unlock the screen from standby? Is it the menu button like my 3g, & old g1, Or is it an awkward ass button in an annoying spot like the g2 (cant stand the unlock button up top on my wifes g2).
2nd. How bloated is the stock rom? I have seen reports of it being full of crap thats not needed & most of it not wanted unlike the g2 that has a very clean install. And if it is full of **** is there a good factory replacement rom (after rooting of course) that will still get updates & has all hardware working?
You can unlock via the button, or by pressing the track pad
As for bloatware, there is some, but you can always flash CM
Agreed. The power button and the trackpad will both unlock.
As for bloatware; I removed (froze in TB) all the games, my faves, friend stream, visual voicemail, swype and a few other small things.
Runs fantastic now.
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right on.. So the biggest problem being the unlock is a non issue apparently. I wish it would work that way on my wifes g2.
As for the OS can you also remove the sence UI. I used it a while back on my g1 & honestly prefer the generic android interface.
bastage said:
right on.. So the biggest problem being the unlock is a non issue apparently. I wish it would work that way on my wifes g2.
As for the OS can you also remove the sence UI. I used it a while back on my g1 & honestly prefer the generic android interface.
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Removing Sense would require a different ROM or a theme if you use ADW or LPP.
CBConsultation said:
Removing Sense would require a different ROM or a theme if you use ADW or LPP.
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Bummer.. which using a different rom still means no automatic updates?
bastage said:
Bummer.. which using a different rom still means no automatic updates?
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Correct. But if you load a ROM from...say Cyanogen, you can get updates to that ROM through the Cyanogen Updater which you can dl from the Market.
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Correct. But if you load a ROM from...say Cyanogen, you can get updates to that ROM through the Cyanogen Updater which you can dl from the Market.
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ok I believe thats new.. I dont remember having that the last time I ran a different rom. It would have been right after the mt3g came out.
bastage said:
ok I believe thats new.. I dont remember having that the last time I ran a different rom. It would have been right after the mt3g came out.
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Yeah. Here is Cyanogen Updater now...
bastage said:
So I don't not have my MT4G yet. Still have my MT3G chugging away. But I just ordered the 4 so i thought I would ask a couple of questions in preparation for mine arriving next week.
1st. How do you unlock the screen from standby? Is it the menu button like my 3g, & old g1, Or is it an awkward ass button in an annoying spot like the g2 (cant stand the unlock button up top on my wifes g2).
2nd. How bloated is the stock rom? I have seen reports of it being full of crap thats not needed & most of it not wanted unlike the g2 that has a very clean install. And if it is full of **** is there a good factory replacement rom (after rooting of course) that will still get updates & has all hardware working?
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mt4g has some bloat for sure. i removed faves/family app and widget, news app and widget, stocks app and widget, flickr, facebook, all of the stupid themes to setup the phone other than carrera, all of the stock wallpapers and ringtones, all of the yahoo crap, monopoly, asphalt 5 and some other stuff i dont remember. phones running great. i made a few of my own tweaks to it, but u can definitely remove the above crap safely with no issue. just make a backup first in case you need to send the phone back. on a sidenote, you said the g2 was a clean install. to an extent. i had a g2 as well and it was full of bloat, right on par with the mt4g. i mean 15 or so google apps preloaded on it, not to mention the rest. anyway though, i hope this helps
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I am running 2.2 FRF91 on my N1 and I just noticed that the Facebook app caused my trackball light to turn blue... Woot!!! They finally did it.
Or else I'm just crazy...
Or else you havn't read enough on the the FroYo changes.
You seriously just posted this thread?
*facepalm*
Man, go get LED Tester. Think you'll really go bonkers with it.
Twidroid has been doing this for about a month on mine. I wish the apps gave more control over it though.
On a side note: Twidroid (now Twidroyd) would flash BLUE quickly. If I got a new email, I would get ONE (1) single flash showing I have a new email, then it would be all back to quick blue flashes. It did not continue to show me I had an email... which to me is much more important than knowing I have unread tweets. However, since it's changed to Twidroyd, the EULA is quite ominous and I don't agree to having them intercept and have rights over my tweets. Granted they may not be significant, but they are my own and I don't want a 3rd party getting into it. So I've switched to the official Twitter app. It's not bad. I'll know more in a week.
Handcent sms apps gives you blue trackball. Yahoo Messenger gives purple color. FYI
u seriously just noticed this? *facepalm* its one of the first things i noticed. as soon as i flashed the rom for the first time i got a text and i saw the trackball blinking and i was like OMG!!!
Sigh!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nexus+one+froyo+trackball+colors
Only 160K+ hits...
Man, this has been on the Nexus soooo long before Froyo if you were rooted. Its not anywhere near amazing anymore.
I love the geeky WTF replies on this thread. Cracking up.
Eclair~ said:
Man, this has been on the Nexus soooo long before Froyo if you were rooted. Its not anywhere near amazing anymore.
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While most people know this, we did not think that stock 2.2 would include trackball colors. I was pretty shocked when I got my first blue facebook notification. I was able to download LED testers and play with the colors but unable to save them to specific apps.
You'd think it would have some settings if they where planning on including the feature. Eventually it will come I guess.
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While most people know this, we did not think that stock 2.2 would include trackball colors. I was pretty shocked when I got my first blue facebook notification. I was able to download LED testers and play with the colors but unable to save them to specific apps.
You'd think it would have some settings if they where planning on including the feature. Eventually it will come I guess.
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Uh, yeah we did. The code was committed by google before Froyo even came out. It was pretty apparent it was coming
player911 said:
While most people know this, we did not think that stock 2.2 would include trackball colors. I was pretty shocked when I got my first blue facebook notification. I was able to download LED testers and play with the colors but unable to save them to specific apps.
You'd think it would have some settings if they where planning on including the feature. Eventually it will come I guess.
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everyone here knew at least....ChainsDD mentioned that google pushed it to the source so we knew it would be out in the next android release, which happened to be froyo
lordzelo said:
I am running 2.2 FRF91 on my N1 and I just noticed that the Facebook app caused my trackball light to turn blue... Woot!!! They finally did it.
Or else I'm just crazy...
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check out 'led disco'! fun fun fun
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check out 'led disco'! fun fun fun
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led disco is cool, i wish it changed the LED with the music though
you can simply download trackball alert from market, and setup your own tractball feature.
qianhaorr said:
you can simply download trackball alert from market, and setup your own tractball feature.
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Last time i checked, this app didnt work with stock 2.2. Is it updated to work with stock froyo now ?
qianhaorr said:
you can simply download trackball alert from market, and setup your own tractball feature.
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Isn't that just for root users? Means nuts to us non-root users unless... froyo now supports trackball alert without root?
What have you done since you've gotten root access?
I rooted, and the only thing I have done is remove apps I don't want.
Same here, removed apps for now.
I look forward to a good custom ROM in the future as there are some aspects of the MT4G Sense I would rather not have.
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What have you done since you've gotten root access? A lot of people have been complaining about the mt4g/g2 and wanting to return it since they couldn't get root. I want to know what you have done since you've rooted that made it so life or death.
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All about the custom roms and kernels. Root was the prerequisite. Now that we have it developers can start working on the real stuff, as in the "life or death" stuff everyone is so excited about. I'll take it you're new to android/rooting? Wait and see, great things to come
thebitjockey said:
Same here, removed apps for now.
I look forward to a good custom ROM in the future as there are some aspects of the MT4G Sense I would rather not have.
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i agree... im not a fan of 2nd hand android lol id always rather just stock style
c_licious said:
All about the custom roms and kernels. Root was the prerequisite. Now that we have it developers can start working on the real stuff, as in the "life or death" stuff everyone is so excited about. I'll take it you're new to android/rooting? Wait and see, great things to come
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no not at all actually :/ i got addicted back with the G1 and have had a list of android phones since then... i lost my nexus one the other day so im just as excited as anyone else... i just wanted to see if anyones been playing with anything good or just makin minor tweaks
Not only removing stock apps. It helps u bring a sense of originality & style to ur device with the full customation ability that Root access provides. In addition to that, making your device run smoother & faster & not being an eager slave to the creators of the smartphone world. In easier terms, not always waiting for the things u anticipate for that ur phone is already suppose to do. I was a sceptic at first, but once u decide to take that turn towards rooting u will be very satisfied.
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Srry for the long post.
r0cky.Da.3v0.SU
Just to be clear I'm not asking if I should root my phone and why... I just wanted to see what the first things people did when they got root...
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Just to be clear I'm not asking if I should root my phone and why... I just wanted to see what the first things people did when they got root...
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I see. maybe it was the "life or death" remark that got people confused?
your right i meant it as a 2 part question but the way i typed it made it sound like one...
are your phones running different with the bloatware off?
I uninstalled bloatware (a must) and installed mobile defense as a system app (also a must)
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mixer5911 said:
I uninstalled bloatware (a must) and installed mobile defense as a system app (also a must)
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What's mobile defense?
mixer5911 said:
I uninstalled bloatware (a must) and installed mobile defense as a system app (also a must)
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is it making a difference? normally the bloatware weighs down the boot time but thats not an issue here....
im hoping we can overclock are mt4g like the g2 can. 1.6ghz would be nice if it was stable. so im gonna wait to root my phone till overclocking comes to this phone.
s10shane said:
im hoping we can overclock are mt4g like the g2 can. 1.6ghz would be nice if it was stable. so im gonna wait to root my phone till overclocking comes to this phone.
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I'm as bad a spec geek as the next, but I've yet to find any reason to OC over 1ghz on any recent phone I've had.
I would only OC when I was trying to pull the best benchmark and then back to 1ghz for me on my Evo...
Rooting
I wasn't aware that there was a root for this phone so quickly. Where is it located so that I can remove all this crap that I will never ever want to use. Thanks. Also What is mobile defense.
So far the only thing I've really done with root was change the Lock/Unlock sounds. I'm a huge Metal Gear Solid fan so now whenever I lock or unlock the phone I hear the codec open or close sound.
whats the easiest way to remove said bloatware again? titanium?
I've removed bloatware and the rosie.apk. Also, I'm waiting until u can actually underclock my processor.
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ryutsuke said:
So far the only thing I've really done with root was change the Lock/Unlock sounds. I'm a huge Metal Gear Solid fan so now whenever I lock or unlock the phone I hear the codec open or close sound.
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This information must be shared, Snake!
I'm guessing Root Explorer would do the trick? I've never looked into doing that before. Mind sharing the location and/or the sound?
Anyway, removed bloat, used Setcpu, gave Juice Defender root access. And @flopie, mobile defense is an app that can track your phone if you ever lose it. Shows the gps location on a map at their web page. You can remotely lock it down or wipe the phone and sd card if you have to.
I am currently running evil muiu for my mt4g but are having issues with the wifi connectivity and also with the 4g reception. It bounces from the "H" to 3G and even back to crappy Edge sometimes. Any good stable roms would be appreciated
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I am currently running evil muiu for my mt4g but are having issues with the wifi connectivity and also with the 4g reception. It bounces from the "H" to 3G and even back to crappy Edge sometimes. Any good stable roms would be appreciated
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I tried all the other ROMS out there and if functionality is what you're looking for, I would stick with the ICE Glacier rom. Everything works and its fast! I use to switch up rom's everyday but always go back to Ice. No wifi issues, FFC works, navi and all that good stuff. I ran CM6 for a week but it was still missing some of the functions. Ill probably rum CM7 when everything works. You cant go wrong with the Glacier Rom. Just install ADW or LPP and customize it to your liking.
good link for the Glacier you run?
seanj2247 said:
good link for the Glacier you run?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
Just dload v1.1.4, it just came out 2 days ago. Its fast and has awsome battery life!
Oh..make sure you do a backup and wipe data, wipe cache before flashing it. You probably already know that.
one more quick question, any way to get rid of all that [email protected] blue lol, id prefer a unthemed rom...also have you ever ran evil 4g hd v0.2.2-1.72.405.3??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
just install the unthemed version
unthemed links on the forum are dead
Im not to fond of the blue also. I just installed the "unthemed" version and use LPP as a launcher. I might be in the minority but I like the Sense UI over plain froyo, I like the functions, dialer, widgets . Heres a screenie of what I'm running at the moment. Hope this helps...
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like that lakeshow...like i was saying earlier i could open the link for the unthemed, anychance u can post a direct link to it for me?
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like that lakeshow...like i was saying earlier i could open the link for the unthemed, anychance u can post a direct link to it for me?
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Dload it directly from your phone. The ROM will be in the dowload folder when its finished. Flash the file from there. You cant dlaod it from a PC, it gives a blank page but the download should work directly on your MT4G.
I have to agree 100% w/ Lakeshow423. Once I installed ClockworkMod Recovery and flashed a new recovery, I was going to try out CM6, Gorilla's, Ice, etc.
I went with Ice Glacier first, after reading everyone's positive reviews. That and it's still the HTC Sense UI, which I wanted. I used a G1 for years so I've had plenty of the vanilla Android experience.
Also, I am not experiencing any issues downloading the latest (1.1.4) release @...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
It's downloading just fine (at least right now, so if it's not for you, it should be back soon)...
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I actually installed the themed version first, thinking I'd like the cool blue trim/accents. It actually ended up being a bit much for me and I found myself longing for the unthemed version. I couldn't be happier with this ROM. For those looking to "keep things the same," but want to get more speed, a better user experience and a bit better battery life (via SetCPU), I think Ice Glacier is the wiener.
Add to that, the devs working on it - teamsilence and NOTXEL21 - have been nothing but nice and quick to release updates. The ROMs are pretty much near perfect. There was an issue in 1.1.3 with WiFi hotspot (an issue w/ the included kernel) and they pretty much immediately released, 1.1.4 with a fix (downgraded kernel). Add to that, the devs are already "teasing" Gingerbread. Please, do not take this as, "shlongwoodian said they're releasing a Gingerbread ROM." I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying these two devs seem like cool guys and they're doing great work...and I'll stick with them for updates, not TMO or HTC.
I like Sense, so I wasn't looking to theme/mod my interface too much. I think my "almost-standard-issue" home screen is quite sexy, if you ask me...
Going to Ice Glacier is the best thing you can do for your HTC Glacier. I can't stress enough, to do a Titanium backup first (verify it too) and then before flashing/deleting or doing ANYTHING in recovery, do a Nandroid backup first!
Is there currently a rom for the MT4G that is vanilla?
rfisher983 said:
Is there currently a rom for the MT4G that is vanilla?
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Yep, Cyanogen is Sense-less and will give you the vanilla Android feel.
Hands down, Ice Glacier is where it's at, IMHO. Our employee wanted vanilla and tried Cyanogen - he ended up back at Ice Glacier.
It all comes down to personal preference, both with the ROM itself and the dev(s). I get a good feel from both with Ice Glacier.
The good thing is, you can try em all! Make a Nandroid, try and if ya don't like, flash another ROM.
Those iPhone girlies don't have that luxury.
[[[Ice Glacier beats Rock ~ via XDA App]]]
I like the phone exactly as it comes from T-Mobile. All I wish I could do is remove stuff I don't use like news, stocks, and some of the games. I would also like to do screen shots, and it wouldn't hurt if it were faster, maybe load different themes. Aside from that, I like everything as its meant to be and find this blue to be quite annoying.
Every single GB sense Rom i try has a effed up camera issue. Even stock rom. I went to a family reunion and took the most effed up pictures to where i just had
to put the damn phone away. All the pictures came out dark and sh$t. I was familiar with the problem from other users but damn this is bad. I take allot of pictures so having a proper working camera is a must. So far my only solution to this problem is aosp Rom. I'm currently using deck Rom and the camera works perfect. But i want my main rom to be mikg Rom dammit. What the hell happened?
Is it a kernel issue? tried different cams with no luck. Man this sucks balls.
Try the sleek n sexy rom.
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I tried that Rom yesterday with the same results. Its a really good looking Rom though.
i been using steelH rom, no problems at all with the camera..or any other aspect of the rom.
txt
take the phone to sprint for a replacement?
txtoad said:
i been using steelH rom, no problems at all with the camera..or any other aspect of the rom.
txt
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That one i haven't tried. Ive been going down the list. going to give that a test run.
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take the phone to sprint for a replacement?
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I'm still on the fence with getting a replacement because it only started when I upgraded to 2.3.3 GB sense. froyo and aosp work fine. If all else fails that will be an option.
Then you'll be stuck with an unrootable phone. Camera will probably work, though...
txtoad said:
i been using steelH rom, no problems at all with the camera..or any other aspect of the rom.
txt
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Just tried this Rom and is still a no go. Same issues. I guess when there finally is
root i will probably take it back to sprint but until then i will stick with aosp roms.
unfortunately. nothing wrong with them i just prefer a good sense custom Rom.
Man, I'd be just as pissed about this...
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Just tried this Rom and is still a no go. Same issues. I guess when there finally is
root i will probably take it back to sprint but until then i will stick with aosp roms.
unfortunately. nothing wrong with them i just prefer a good sense custom Rom.
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sorry to here that, it should work the rom is basically a stock rom the some of the bloat taken. almost sounds like something beside the cam or rom. then again i may be wrong about that, still kinda new at this..
Try Alliance or Synergy, I never had a problem with those.
Could also be your HW version.
My wife has the same issue with her EVO. She has the 004 model, however, I have the 003 model and I dont have those issues.
It's something with those 2.3 tons and/or updates.I flashes numerous 2.3 roms onto her EVO and every pic still cam out dark. But when I flashes a 2.2,ROM, it worked.
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I had the problem on all the 2.1/3.0 ROMS, except MikG 1.5 and 2.2
And I don't take a lot of pics, so on 2.2, it COULD be happening intermittently, which is something I've seen people complain about in other threads.
I'm really sorry for sounding like a total d!$% but if you're worried about talking a lot of pictures, you should just bring an actual camera. Camera phones (when they work) are great for those unexpected moments, but you went to a reunion. You knew you were going. You knew family members from all over the place were going to be there. Be pissed all you want about your phone's camera not working, but I'd personally be more pissed about not bringing a legitimate camera to a family reunion.
Wouldn't it be easier to simply flash a new rom rather then ***** about it??
I have the same problem. I have flashed a ton of gingerbread roms including the stock ginger bread Rom. I very frustrating because my phone used to take pretty good photos in low light. Now its horrible. As bad as it is, its still takes much better pics than my EVO 3D did. I just flat out couldn't see anything with that phone
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i have the same problem sometimes. in the camera hit menu>image adjustments>and set the exposure to +1. all the pics come out nice and colorful instead of dark and crappy
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Wouldn't it be easier to simply flash a new rom rather then ***** about it??
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For one you dumb SOB, Didn't you read that i flashed every damn GB sense rom with the same results. GTFOH. Xda a is going down hill.
I have a DHD build 2.50 405.2 and what i heard is that my DHD will never get sense 3 without rooting it...
actually i dont care if i dont get sense 3 on my device but i'm very interested in only in the sense 3 lock screen
I was wondering if any of you that have the same interest maybe just maybe if we all write in to HTC and request it and maybe ... may consider giving us the sense 3 lockscreen in the next update they make....
just wondering...
what you think?
HTC have said that "some features" of Sense 3.0 will be put on devices other than the Sensation, so only time will tell.
Truth be told, the lockscreen is one of the things I don't like in Sense 3.
I prefer the slide across thumb slider type.
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Grant Barker said:
Truth be told, the lockscreen is one of the things I don't like in Sense 3.
I prefer the slide across thumb slider type.
(Maybe you just can't teach an old dog new tricks.)
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I agree with your last sentance. I think sense 3 lockscreen is the best on any phone, its so customizable
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Yeah I agree with you, it is customizable. I just don't like sliding my thumb up to unlock the phone. It's seems unnatural to me. I prefer sliding my thumb from left to right.
It probably all started with Slide 2 Unlock for Windows Mobile. (I never had an iPhone.) After a couple of years of that (with various roms) and then various roms on Android with or without Sense 2, there seems to be no benefit to sliding up or the expanding ring animation.
Still, I do like new tricks and we are lucky we can change to as many roms as we want, when we want, so we are all kept happy.
Peace `Young man'.
Old Dog.
As much as I'd like to have the Sense 3.0 lockscreen, I'm not too keen on upgrading to Ice Cream Sandwich to get it.
Why? Well its just that my DHD started lagging to a pretty nasty amount just after upgrading to Gingerbread, compared to the amount of lag on Froyo. Sure, I realize that just because 1 update was screwed-up, doesn't mean that every last one will be so. Also, my guess is that we're gonna see the same problem that the Desire is currently facing with the "insufficient memory".
Either way, would anyone apart from me want to wait till Ice Cream Sandwich for the new lockscreen?
ViousAD said:
As much as I'd like to have the Sense 3.0 lockscreen, I'm not too keen on upgrading to Ice Cream Sandwich to get it.
Why? Well its just that my DHD started lagging to a pretty nasty amount just after upgrading to Gingerbread, compared to the amount of lag on Froyo. Sure, I realize that just because 1 update was screwed-up, doesn't mean that every last one will be so. Also, my guess is that we're gonna see the same problem that the Desire is currently facing with the "insufficient memory".
Either way, would anyone apart from me want to wait till Ice Cream Sandwich for the new lockscreen?
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I had the same problem, but then i rooted and flashed a custom rom, and my phone has never been faster!
If I were you, I would just root phone and flash custom ROM eg AR HD . Then download lockscreen add-on and flash :>
I have to admit that after now using Sense 3 for a few days with RCMix3D Aztec v1.0 (thread currently closed), I'm really enjoying the Sense 3 lockscreen (especially with the animated weather). Maybe it was just time for a change again, although this is the first time in ages where I hadn't flashed the next CyanogenMod7 [Nightly] rom. I'd still prefer to swipe my thumb across instead of up but - yeah, the lockscreen is growing on me.
it's been said before on another thread... the icons on the lockscreen should grow when you hold them to drag!
Their is free one on market for any phone
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App
Use Agile Lock if You want just the lockscreen.
www megaupload com/?d=4BGM0XDT <- a link to download. Since I can not post links.
Thanks for the link.
pascal2608 said:
Thanks for the link.
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I would pay for widgetlocker instead of using the agile lock.
the original sense 3.0 look cool