Good afternoon
I have been pulling my hair out over this for a bit.... basically i cannot get my Defy to play the FM radio out of the loadspeaker! When i access the media app in homescreen 2 on the right, it plays radio flawlessly, however i like to listen to it via loadspeaker until i sleep. There is a button for the headphones, i have tried pressing this and it turns off the headphones, if i increase the volume after this it just tells me the ringer volume is going up!
Any ideas?
Am i missing the blatently obvious?
Am i a useless freak?
Am i mildly insane?
any help advice suggestions greatly appreciated
Thanx!
gobble_di_gook said:
Good afternoon
I have been pulling my hair out over this for a bit.... basically i cannot get my Defy to play the FM radio out of the loadspeaker! When i access the media app in homescreen 2 on the right, it plays radio flawlessly, however i like to listen to it via loadspeaker until i sleep. There is a button for the headphones, i have tried pressing this and it turns off the headphones, if i increase the volume after this it just tells me the ringer volume is going up!
Any ideas?
Am i missing the blatently obvious?
Am i a useless freak?
Am i mildly insane?
any help advice suggestions greatly appreciated
Thanx!
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Calm, calm... it's not your fault. The radio won't work without the headphones being jacked-in because they act as the antenna. I believe this is the reason.
scrannel said:
Calm, calm... it's not your fault. The radio won't work without the headphones being jacked-in because they act as the antenna. I believe this is the reason.
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Yep. Smartphones don't have a built in FM antenna (none I'm aware of anyway) so yeah...unless you are under the broadcast tower you don't have much of a chance of getting any stations.
I have the touch pro which has the same issue. I think someone could likely make a hack to use the speaker, but you would still have to have the antenna present.
Hi guys... thanx but I don't think you are quite understanding my issue . I have the heaDphones plugged in to get reception, however I would like to play the radio through the loudspeaker...whilst leaving the headphones plugged in I could do this with my nokia 5800
gobble_di_gook said:
Hi guys... thanx but I don't think you are quite understanding my issue . I have the heaDphones plugged in to get reception, however I would like to play the radio through the loudspeaker...whilst leaving the headphones plugged in I could do this with my nokia 5800
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When you plug in the headphones it MUTES the main speaker. I think it's a physical thing. I don't think there's an app that can over come it. Unless you've listened to some other source that plays through the main speaker with the headphones also plugged in -- then there should be a way to over-come it. According to a Motorola tech the radio's designed to turn off when the headphones are removed.
ahh!
so it is simply not possible with stock firmware... i shall investigate how to overcome this
gobble_di_gook said:
ahh!
so it is simply not possible with stock firmware... i shall investigate how to overcome this
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Actually I'm just saying I don't know how to do it. But if it's a mechanical connection then I'm not sure any firmware would make it work.
You could try toggleheadset widget from here:
http://code.google.com/p/toggleheadset2/ or the original version http://code.google.com/p/toggleheadset/
It is on the Android market but you have to pay for it.
It was originally developed for the G1 because sometimes it was not recognising that the headset was plugged in. It enables you to toggle between headset and earphones. I had the same problem on my Hero. Although it says it is for Android 1.6, I had it working on a 2.1 rom, but don't blame me if it blows your device up!
crazy
thats retarded of motorola, the stock radio app should have a button to switch the audio from earphone to speaker-phone.
An alternate solution, if you have a good data plan or reliable wi-fi by your bedside, is to just stream the same station over the Internet. Get XiiaLite from the Market and queue up your favourite streaming station. You can set a timer from within the app to turn off after a specified number of minutes or even to fade out slowly.
Very clumsy but incredibly complete is "Radio Time", which Sonos uses as their radio source. It's streaming though.
There's an app on the market called "Sound route switcher." Anyone try that?
gobble_di_gook said:
Hi guys... thanx but I don't think you are quite understanding my issue . I have the heaDphones plugged in to get reception, however I would like to play the radio through the loudspeaker...whilst leaving the headphones plugged in I could do this with my nokia 5800
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Instead of using the headphones as an antenna, you could try using an FM antenna wire like the ones that came with car navi's. It has four seperate sections at the mini jack; it uses the headphone slot on my navi and does not switch off the main speaker of it (probably bridges the contacts that are unbridged by a headphone three piece jack).
Cannot try it here; I have the antenna but no Defy here.
scrannel said:
When you plug in the headphones it MUTES the main speaker. I think it's a physical thing. I don't think there's an app that can over come it. Unless you've listened to some other source that plays through the main speaker with the headphones also plugged in -- then there should be a way to over-come it. According to a Motorola tech the radio's designed to turn off when the headphones are removed.
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Actually it`s not a physical thing, it can be routed via software to the headphone or the speaker, you can test it by connecting the headphones and them calling to your phone, it will ring through the speakers not the headphone. The Milestone have a standalone radio app and let you hear fm radio through the speaker.
FM Radio loudspeaker fix
I installed a FMRadio.apk on my T-Mo US Defy and it works fine. Just copy to root of SD card and use Astro File Manager to install. Loudspeaker works fine with headphones plugged in. Hope it helps.
realityrat said:
I installed a FMRadio.apk on my T-Mo US Defy and it works fine. Just copy to root of SD card and use Astro File Manager to install. Loudspeaker works fine with headphones plugged in. Hope it helps.
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Confirm with 2.2 Pays-ROM
Also since it's possible send audio on loudspeaker may it be possible route it on BT headsed?
More than that - there a lot of phones with radio (samsung, for example) which have built-in radio works with earphones plugged in, and i've used pathces on their firmwares to make radio works WITHOUT headset. Ant it worked. @City with good signal, at least.
I too am interested in this, routing audio through my bluetooth headset could be achieved on a Nokia E51, is it possible to do the same thing on Android?
As I known - FM Radio Speaker is an easy-to-use tool that can turn on the speaker to play when the headphones are inserted.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wikimediacom.fm.radio.speaker
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I notice with skype (running OMAP at 240) when i make calls it is on speaker phone....any way to have sound come out of the earpiece, or toggle between it and speaker phone when i dont have headset in?
thanks...
stumped..
anybody aware of it?
I also want to know this as well..
Regardless of which entity is responsible for this not being implemented, the absence of small yet important features such as this are what make the entire Pocket PC platform seem juvenile at times
I downloaded skype v2 for wm5 yesterday, and it actually works on the wizard... HOORAY!!! download the version for the universal
and YES... it works with the headphones, otherwise sound goes to the external speaker
The new imate rom comes with skype 1.1 and it worked....but more as a technology demo... completely unusable unless you wanted to reset every other minute to get your contacts back... memory hog yadayadayada.
ref: http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=51781
so its an issue....
that skype forum proves no help, no responses! hah
it is not an issue. it is how things work. there is not way to fix it. The normal phone speaker is hardwired to the gsm radio. there is no way to get any audio that does not come off of a GSM phone call to go to that speaker.
u ever used speakerphone with gsm?
So even though your GSM calls can be routed to the external speakers, the audio port or even a bluetooth device which uses the handsfree profile, you're telling me there's no possible way to route audio into the internal handset speaker. Do you know this for a fact or are you just making assumptions based on limited knowledge of these devices?
this isn't about speakerphones and such, as you're telling the audio signal to go to different places. what eguess is saying is that the little speaker we hear from isn't connected to a simple audio solder, but straight to the radio. and that radio doesn't get input audio from anywhere else but the radio itself. get it now?
eguess said:
it is not an issue. it is how things work. there is not way to fix it. The normal phone speaker is hardwired to the gsm radio. there is no way to get any audio that does not come off of a GSM phone call to go to that speaker.
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So i was just wondering with skype work with a bluetooth headset? Thanks
not true. i could listen music in the built in earpeice once before while on the phone. it doesn't seem to work now. idk weird.
i could also listen to music on the included headset before while on the phone but it doesn't seem to work anymore.
so i don't think its hardwired. it must be in the registry somewhere enabling/disabling internal earpeice.
tweaker said:
so i don't think its hardwired. it must be in the registry somewhere enabling/disabling internal earpeice.
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Well, not everything is in the registry either. Ok, why does Opera for PPC leave extra spaces? Absolutely ridiculous.
murdokiwi said:
I downloaded skype v2 for wm5 yesterday, and it actually works on the wizard... HOORAY!!! download the version for the universal
and YES... it works with the headphones, otherwise sound goes to the external speaker
The new imate rom comes with skype 1.1 and it worked....but more as a technology demo... completely unusable unless you wanted to reset every other minute to get your contacts back... memory hog yadayadayada.
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what about delay
Wow I thought this would be easy.. I have a VX6800 Verizon that I enjoy listening to indie 103.1 indie stream through TCPMP except the speaker blows. I thought I would get a usb to mini headset adaptor so I could plug into my mps player speakers, but the adaptor I got from Radio Shack dosen't seem to work? Do I have to change some setting or something to get the audio to go out through the USB jack?
TIA,
Chris
antim said:
Wow I thought this would be easy.. I have a VX6800 Verizon that I enjoy listening to indie 103.1 indie stream through TCPMP except the speaker blows. I thought I would get a usb to mini headset adaptor so I could plug into my mps player speakers, but the adaptor I got from Radio Shack dosen't seem to work? Do I have to change some setting or something to get the audio to go out through the USB jack?
TIA,
Chris
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You have a better chance using the Bluetooth speaker set. You get better quality "stereo" and you can increase the volume way louder.
Also try searching for the SRSWOWHD CAB. This enhances the volume in your phone with some modifications in the program.
antim said:
Wow I thought this would be easy.. I have a VX6800 Verizon that I enjoy listening to indie 103.1 indie stream through TCPMP except the speaker blows. I thought I would get a usb to mini headset adaptor so I could plug into my mps player speakers, but the adaptor I got from Radio Shack dosen't seem to work? Do I have to change some setting or something to get the audio to go out through the USB jack?
TIA,
Chris
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The adaptor you got from radio shack probably is not wired correctly for the type of connection on the phone, even though it physically fits there it is kind of a propietary connection and has extra pins that are not standard. Many of the phone accesory websites have the correct one. Here is a link to one that works in our phone http://www.elitextreme.com/3stauadforht3.html
jjlwork is right, our phone has 11 pins where typical miniusbs have 10. You wont get it to work right, or you will mess up your phone.
Try this too, I have an extra in case my other breaks cause I use it in my car. I will have a writeup in accessories later today.
http://cgi.ebay.com/3in1-audio-Adap...ryZ35211QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Should check... there is some change in 3.35 that causes some of the
audio connetors to not work. Happened on mine. The oem headset does
continue to work.
Bill Hale
hey lucky folks with HDs ;-)
how does the FM Radio work on the HD? Do you need to use the headset as antenna, like on the polaris? Or does the HD have built in antennas?
boba
antenna
you have to use your earpiece as antenna. No build in fm antenna
And it has to be the one that comes in the box. You can't use a Touch or Diamond headset. Which I thought was odd...
But yah, the 3.whatever mm jack in the top of the handset is used for the antenna.
Hi,
I don't use the ones that come in the box. Just use my own headphones. Radio works fine
Ofiaich
ofiaich said:
Hi,
I don't use the ones that come in the box. Just use my own headphones. Radio works fine
Ofiaich
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Tested the radio on the Touch HD at a local store with my own earphones and it worked great...
Insaneboy said:
Tested the radio on the Touch HD at a local store with my own earphones and it worked great...
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Phew, thanks for the correction. I want to use my own better set of headphones and still use the radio.
And it works fine with a 3.5 <> 3.5 lead (for use to plug into a car radio or audio input) using the loudspeaker.
So in a strong signal area, it will work fine with 3.5 plug + short wire
Kev
According to the Touch HD manual:-
Output
Select whether to use the device Speaker or Wired Headset to listen to the radio.
Beards said:
According to the Touch HD manual:-
Output
Select whether to use the device Speaker or Wired Headset to listen to the radio.
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Yes, but first plug in an antenna
The radio program is really nice you can change between speaker/phones with one easy finger friendly button.
What can you say about the quality from the fm Radio. I can´t get a RDS Signal, or it is still available only for 2 - 3 seconds.
Insaneboy said:
Beards said:
According to the Touch HD manual:-
1. Output
Select whether to use the device Speaker or Wired Headset to listen to the radio.
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Yes, but first plug in an antenna
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D'ya reckon that would work for BT headphones too (after plugging in a 3.5mm jacked antenna that is)?... I have a feeling the answer is no... hmmm.
do you have a cab of FMradio? I want it for my xperia, panel sucks
Even using a stereo plug radio works fine. Then the only choice is explicitly set device speakers for radio. Even in case of active AD2P connection, the sound is only played through device speakers or wired headphones.
Normally when using bluetooth headphones I insert a 3.5 Jack(just the jack no headphones on it) to make sure that device speakers will not start banging if the bluetooth headphones run out of battery or get disconnected for some reason. And in city center this seems to be enough to make radio work for certain channels though since bt is not used, not much benefit in having it.
Is it possible to get the radio to run without having to plug in the headphones?
I know they act as an antenna but I'd still like to be able to demo the device and try for local radio in strong signal areas without having to carry round a set of headphones.
is this possible?
No, must have earphones plugged in.
...actually, FM radio switches off automatically 30 seconds after you disconnect the cable....very handy....
Hi,
I'm considering to buy a seperate antenna.. But I'm not sure this will work.
Any suggestions?
http://cgi.ebay.nl/TMC-Kurzstab-Ant...9523848QQcmdZViewItemQQptZNavigations_Zubehör
if you use HD tweak you van set the audio booster on, if thats on, you wont get the message that your headset must be plugged in, but i hardly get a reception then
Trying to plug a dummy (just a socket?)?
your antenna is in the earplug-wire, so you need it.
BSmart said:
Hi,
I'm considering to buy a seperate antenna.. But I'm not sure this will work.
Any suggestions?
http://cgi.ebay.nl/TMC-Kurzstab-Ant...9523848QQcmdZViewItemQQptZNavigations_Zubehör
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It should work, it seems to be using the same pinout as HD headphone, assuming the Mic still doubles as antenna, like before on ExtUSB
Just tried it with a 3.5 mini-extension cable (about 10cm long with a 3.5 plug on one end and a 3.5 socket on the other).
Works fine ! Reception is perhaps a little weaker.
A 3.5mm plug with some thin black insulated wire connected to it should make a nice unobtrusive antenna.
but why bother, some earbuds are just as easy to bring
Thanks for this idea! I cut an old (bad and low-cost) earphone, plugged-in the 3.5-connector (with a cable of about 45 cm), activated audio booster with HD Tweak and - voila!: I'm able to hear FM Radio!
I think it's useful when you want to hear news for a short time; to hear music earphones are better of course!
And can the radio be switched to bluetooth A2DP in this case?
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And can the radio be switched to bluetooth A2DP in this case?
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No - bluetooth does not seem to work here. I tried this with a 3.5 extension. I could get sound out of the speaker no problem but no chance on diverting it to bluetooth.
We probably need some app to make that work.
Not sure if it will work in this case, but these apps are similar: BTArouter or BT Audio
stylus=antenna
You can use stylus as antenna!
Just have to hold it in place and make sure headphone symbol appear on top fo the screen.
jjow said:
You can use stylus as antenna!
Just have to hold it in place and make sure headphone symbol appear on top fo the screen.
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Actually, I was just about to check if anyone had ever metioned this before. I noticed it tooday when I was playing around with the phone
cybermaus said:
Not sure if it will work in this case, but these apps are similar: BTArouter or BT Audio
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Could somebody try this apps? To play radio through bluetooth is quite imoprtant feature for me, I use to listen to radio on bicycle on my sporty bt headset. Thank you.
I know that software can choose between speaker and headset even when the headset is plugged in (since the FM radio can do that). But is it possible to force audio out of both the headset and the phone speaker? I ask because I have an audio docking that I'm going to use in the car, and if this is impossible, I'll have to put up an extra speaker and amp for when I listen to the radio but want TomTom to warn mea bout those pesky speed cameras... So is it possible with a sneaky trick to choose both headset and speaker?
That can only be done over at the kernel's and the framework's side. The best bet is to customize the kernel. Detection of the headset plugging/unplugging is done by kernel’s switch driver and the event is sent to 'HeadsetObserver.java' which broadcasts the intent 'Intent.ACTION_HEADSET_PLUG' with information about state as plugged/unplugged. This is received by 'PhoneApps.java' and the audiomanagerr is informed to turn on/off the speaker which further passes the information to Libaudio.so (AudioHardware.cpp). These information is passed to the kernel to switch between the speakerphone and Headset. This might differ with Android 2.3, but forcing the kernel to play sound to both the headset and the speaker might be the only way. The first few actions are done by the framework itself. You can try or suggest this feature to the CM team. I know this is not what you want, but for the time being, you can perhaps use a dual audio jack splitter and connect your headset and a speaker. Alternatively, there a few apps in the market which enables live streaming on your PC over Wi-Fi. You can try streaming the media so that the audi is played by the PC and the connected speakers. At the same time, you can plug in your headset. This should work, but no guarantees...hope this helps, and i have to say that it will be an awesome feature if the devs can find a way to cook this feature into a stable android build!
Android? Yuck! Good on tablets, totally hopeless on phones! Was going to use my brother's Desire for on day, begged him to give me back something that actually worked efficiently after two hours! No, I'm talking about good old Windows Mobile 6.5 here. Didn't really think I'd have to specify that in a thread about general HD2...
While it might be possible, I doubt anyone will do it.
however, you can get audio through both headphones and external speakers using a special jack. it has a male part on one side and two female parts on the other.
of course. I've used the jack splitter on several things (I do a lot of work with custom installation of computers as whole house media servers). And that's what I meant in the first post when I wrote "if this is impossible, I'll have to put up an extra speaker and amp for when I listen to the radio but want TomTom to warn mea bout those pesky speed cameras."
But I have found sort of a solution: Start the HD2's FM radio, switch that to playback through the speaker (which is why I know this not only might be possible, but is possible with software, since the FM radio can play through the speaker even with a 3.5 mm jack plugged in) and mute the radio. Then all sound will come through the speaker. Kind of a pain in the ass to do it that way. I have found a Mort script that does it, with a few modifications, but I haven't had the time to check that out yet.
that's a weird workaround XD
I'll try it later.
Yeah, weird all right. Actually it's been used before. Found it on Google, with a reference to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444581 Another phone, same method.