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Be careful with these 3rd Party batteries. Some may work, others may not.
Generally I wouldn't use a cheap high capacity battery, you cannot be certain of their manufacturing process or reliability. I would recommend buying an additional "Official" HTC battery. I keep a spare, wrapped in cling-film, in my car.
andyharney said:
Generally I wouldn't use a cheap high capacity battery, you cannot be certain of their manufacturing process or reliability. I would recommend buying an additional "Official" HTC battery. I keep a spare, wrapped in cling-film, in my car.
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i wouldnt even trust the "official" ones, i have seen fake nokia batteries where the hologram has been counterfeit, and i would bet that happens with alot of "official" batteries...
I wouldn't buy anything "Official" from eBay anyway. Find an approved HTC re-seller and Robert's your fathers brother.
andyharney said:
I wouldn't buy anything "Official" from eBay anyway. Find an approved HTC re-seller and Robert's your fathers brother.
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Thanks for reply, but I allready contact HTC and they said can give me just same baterry 1230 mA, I don`t now, maybe in a future they will be realised another baterry better than this one which came in box with device
Haveyou got Juice Defender installed?
Here's my tale...
I got my DHD last Saturday, having spent 2 years in the company of a reliable and juice-frugal TouchHD. What a shock the DHD was! I set it up to do the same things the THD did (push Exchange server, 4 other email accounts syncing every 10 minutes, FB, etc), and I found a full battery lasted 5 hours. After tweaking it to within an inch of its life, including making exchange only look for new mail every 30 mins, it was only marginally better.
I called HTC UK support on Thursday and described the issues. I had until this Saturday (yesterday) to decide if I was keeping the phone, and despite loving its features, design, etc, I just could not live with a battery which failed to last a full day without being tethered to a charger.
The chap I spoke to at HTC checked the incident logs and NO-ONE HAS REPORTED CRAP BATTERY LIFE OFFICIALLY TO HTC!!! I found that amazing, but I guess most folks would rather ***** on here about it than tell someone who really needs to hear it. ;-) Anyway, he systematically went through everything I needed to do with the phone so that he understood what kind of user I was, and then as an afterthought said, "I have a great little app on my phone which manages the services I'm not using and switches them off", so I asked him to tell me more... "Well, I'm not really supposed to push non-HTC apps", he said, "but if you squeeze and orange, you get...?" and then "...and in a football team you have strikers, midfielders, and ....?"
Juice Defender, says I. Yep, he says.
So, here I am, 3 days later, and this app has revolutionised the phone for me. I still have push email on, but juice defender just turns on 3G for 1 minute every 15 minutes and runs all the updates (5 mail accounts, FB update, exchange sync, etc). I put JD on a fully charged phone at 1pm on thursday, never charged it again, and went to bed with over 40% juice left. Right now, I've been up since 8amwhen the phone was unplugged, and its nearly 11am now, and I've been on ebay for 20 mins, played a pool game for 20 mins, checked my emails 3 times, and installed 2 apps via AppBrain, and I still have 87% battery. Without JD in, I'm convinced that would be down to about 25%.
Works like a dream for me, and it doesnt feel as though I'm sacrificing anything to achieve this great battery life. If I want to use the internet browser it just overrides JD, until I close the browser. Perfect!
Worth a try for anyone struggling with battery, and it certainly works for me. It also has a little widget which displays how "big" your battery is. Mine now thinks its 1.83 times the size of the battery I really have (which equates to having a battery of about 2250mAh!!!).
RTR
If you like JD, look for Ultimate Juice. It's from the same dev as JD.
It allows further battery tweaks, CPU scaling, location based data to name a few. Its a nice addition to JD.
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If you like JD, look for Ultimate Juice. It's from the same dev as JD.
It allows further battery tweaks, CPU scaling, location based data to name a few. Its a nice addition to JD.
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Thanks Andy, I'll do that. Already passed the gospel according to JD on to another DHD owner at work (fracking copycat, if you ask me!) and a pal with a normal (now officially renamed "crappy" to my pal's face ) Desire, and it is doing the business for them too.
I forgot to mention, that people trying JD may need to set it up as an exception if they also use an auto task killer, or it may get killed as another process the user forgets to close.
No problem, you sure you need a task killer?
Android 2.2 does a very good job at handling tasks/apps. Plus its not like we're going to run out of RAM anytime soon.
No, I dont have a task killer, but the default android Task Manager (installed on my DHD as standard) has an exceptions list, so I make sure anything I dont want Android to kill is added to that. Belt and braces stop the girls seeing your kn*b until you want them to, as my Grandad used to say.
RobTheRover said:
Haveyou got Juice Defender installed?
Here's my tale...
I got my DHD last Saturday, having spent 2 years in the company of a reliable and juice-frugal TouchHD. What a shock the DHD was! I set it up to do the same things the THD did (push Exchange server, 4 other email accounts syncing every 10 minutes, FB, etc), and I found a full battery lasted 5 hours. After tweaking it to within an inch of its life, including making exchange only look for new mail every 30 mins, it was only marginally better.
I called HTC UK support on Thursday and described the issues. I had until this Saturday (yesterday) to decide if I was keeping the phone, and despite loving its features, design, etc, I just could not live with a battery which failed to last a full day without being tethered to a charger.
The chap I spoke to at HTC checked the incident logs and NO-ONE HAS REPORTED CRAP BATTERY LIFE OFFICIALLY TO HTC!!! I found that amazing, but I guess most folks would rather ***** on here about it than tell someone who really needs to hear it. ;-) Anyway, he systematically went through everything I needed to do with the phone so that he understood what kind of user I was, and then as an afterthought said, "I have a great little app on my phone which manages the services I'm not using and switches them off", so I asked him to tell me more... "Well, I'm not really supposed to push non-HTC apps", he said, "but if you squeeze and orange, you get...?" and then "...and in a football team you have strikers, midfielders, and ....?"
Juice Defender, says I. Yep, he says.
So, here I am, 3 days later, and this app has revolutionised the phone for me. I still have push email on, but juice defender just turns on 3G for 1 minute every 15 minutes and runs all the updates (5 mail accounts, FB update, exchange sync, etc). I put JD on a fully charged phone at 1pm on thursday, never charged it again, and went to bed with over 40% juice left. Right now, I've been up since 8amwhen the phone was unplugged, and its nearly 11am now, and I've been on ebay for 20 mins, played a pool game for 20 mins, checked my emails 3 times, and installed 2 apps via AppBrain, and I still have 87% battery. Without JD in, I'm convinced that would be down to about 25%.
Works like a dream for me, and it doesnt feel as though I'm sacrificing anything to achieve this great battery life. If I want to use the internet browser it just overrides JD, until I close the browser. Perfect!
Worth a try for anyone struggling with battery, and it certainly works for me. It also has a little widget which displays how "big" your battery is. Mine now thinks its 1.83 times the size of the battery I really have (which equates to having a battery of about 2250mAh!!!).
RTR
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Thanx for reply, But I don`t now how setup the JD, at the moment I`m using task killer, but if I install JD I still need the task killer or not????(sorry for my English)
No, you don't 'need' the task killer as 2.2 manages background processes automatically. All JD does is shut down high drain services when you have your screen locked, rather than let them eat your battery away. Give it a go. You can easily install it if you find it does nothing for you.
Good luck
RTR
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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No, you don't 'need' the task killer as 2.2 manages background processes automatically. All JD does is shut down high drain services when you have your screen locked, rather than let them eat your battery away. Give it a go. You can easily install it if you find it does nothing for you.
Good luck
RTR
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Thanx, much apreciate!!!!!
Im allsaw thinking about these ebay batterys!
There are 1500 and 1600!
Any one who have tried them?
mugen make the best batteries, ive been buying them for all my devices for years
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I am using Yoobao 1200mah battery, as good as original...I think we all just have to accept that big screen & slim phones won't have a good battery life. Just get a spare battery & a portable charger, and you will be set for a day.
I have tried JD Ultimate last version and it sucks my battery juice. I had to get rid off of it. Looks like some changes were done since the previous version. Previous version worked well for me.
I have a 1600 and it works great for me, on 4 bucks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1600mAh-Standar...597794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f04ed4362
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Im allsaw thinking about these ebay batterys!
There are 1500 and 1600!
Any one who have tried them?
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I have a 1600 and it works great for me, on 4 bucks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1600mAh-Standard...item3f04ed4362
would like to know something about this aswell
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There is a problem with our battery life and we all know its true... I have even been given a new battery and HTC mains charger
I turn off any service im not using at the time (ie: wifi, BT, GPS, NETGPS,etc) not that I should have to do this, but lets story on track...
My battery will make about 1 day as I am A "power user" but if its not plugged in I wont have the juice for my alarm to wake me up, my wifes Sony Ericsson lasts 4-5 days per charge, but lets not compare apples and oranges, the whi-phone 3g my sister has sahe bought it about the same times as my g1, she hadn't ever heard of "deep cycling" 2-5 times when you get a new phone, she never lets it discharge fully and just tops off all the time, AFAIK she is treating a NIMH cell exactly the wrong way, BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada and Id say she uses hers alot because its her primary camera, GPS & A/V player
my question is WHY?
Im sure there must be somebody involved with the development of this phone/OS that reads thru here, since there is more exciting stuff coming from XDA than there is the market...
Im gonna add a poll that pertains to battery use...
I wanted to add one very negative one but hit submit not preview, maybe just post and dont vote if none apply..
they better come off a new battery almost all other new phones will get 1-2 day + average use, Ive had phones that could go 3-4. but the state of the art G1 mindblowing innovative phone wont even work a whole day, so what if its bigger than the whi-phone, it has no keyboard.
I for one would like to hear some solid info on a replacement battery and back, for new and existing G1 users, early adopters got the fuzzy end of the lollipop on the HTC->headphone jack adapter I got the headphones with the htc angled adapter from fleabay, so many manufactures stick it to the early adopter, when we are the ones that get the word of mouth going, as people go "WOW that thing is cool!,what is it?! they know when we bought out phones and should be able to figure out when the head phone rev change was made, so send them to the first of the buyers....
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever...thankfully enuff I dont think XDA-DEV would give up on this badboy, I love this thing, and I love it for what it can be
BhanG
Well stated sir.
HTC/Google need to fix battery problems in G1. Maybe it's soft bug, but maybe it's a hardware bug - Nobody knows
I dunno. With normal use, I get about 12 hours or more from my stock battery. That's about the same as other HTC phones I've had.
there is a battery issue and we are al aware of it.
i have managed to have it last through out the day
just set the brightness to the lowest possible, sleep time to 15 secs
turn off data and wifi and anything else that you are not using
its not how the phone was intended to be used, but it's what i ave to do for now
I find it fine for everyday use. Of course I haven't done a full test but maybe tomorrow I will.
I would like to use my G1 like I use my WinMo but no way I can with the battery.
bhang said:
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever.
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I think you're exaggerating here a little bit. The battery life, while it got press at first, has faded from the limelight of android news for the general population. The G1 is already far from a flop and I don’t think there’s going to be a sudden mass return of all the handsets sold.
Let’s face it living on the cutting edge means you will get cut sometimes. Your high expectations will not always be met and manufacturers will frequently not care. The battery life is less than what many people expected, but we’ve learned to deal with it. At least we have options (power management, backup batteries, and expanded capacity batteries), but I’d not hold my breath on HTC making any major moves. How long has the issue been going with the TYTN II drivers anyway?
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BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Frankly, from an engineer's point of view I have not seen any power drain tests conducted with enough rigor and variable control to be worthy of being called a truly scientific analysis. Even the best "battery life tests" out there aren't declaring what type of testing environment (los and distance to closest 3G tower), what background apps are installed, ambient temperature (which affects the battery discharge profile), etc. Without considering and removing these variables from the test, deviation could be as high as... well there's no fixing the percentage really. It's all just junk data.
I do notice after I installed Task Manager, to close out programs I am not using my battery life went up. There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
TimSykes said:
There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
QUOTE jashsu
I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Yep my friend has iphone and we did test last weekend, both went 3 hours and change then died. If i dont use internet and set timeout and brightness down plus use task manager mine will go as long as my dash. I personally dont care about the battery life, i have a computer, home charger and car charger and i drive for a living so if it gets low no biggie. In my opinion i dont see android going anywhere and i love the g1. Just like wm its gonna take time to get off the ground. To say its at a crossroads is ridiculous.
I am using ADP1.1 and yea if I am browsing the net with 3G for 3-5 hours straight I start seeing the battery go down. But from 100% to 0% takes me longer than 5 hours. I know because I like to lay in bed and don't care to come check my messages LOL
I bought a G1 last week and so far I have been really dissapointed. After having an elf and seeing other htc phones I was expecting big things from the G1.
I am now a week into ownership and after 5 full charge - discharge cycles I am managing to get 24 hours out of the phone with next to no use what so ever. If i check my emails and do 30 mins browsing the phone is dead in 6 or less.
The hardware is simply put 'very poor' my screen is wobbly and the back is loose, all this after just a week.
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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It all depends on what you have installed. for me the start up is. I beleve amazon does too, but I uninstalled that. But the first thing I do is go into task manager and kill everything. And only like two things auto start up. I really with HTC built in a x-button app for android. I loved the click x for close.
myFaves
messaging
voice dialer
calendar
Alarm clock
k-9
woot checker
tunewiki
gmail
Under light usage I get about 36 hours from full charge to shutdown. That's GPS on, Bluetooth on, Autosync on, periodically doing e-mail and web browsing.
Under heavy usage (Which is basically I listened to MP3s for 2 hours) it goes at least 17 hours before I plug it back in. I haven't tested but I'd bet it could go 20 or more.
That's as good as (or better) than I was getting on the Wizard/MDA.
I dunno if anyone has stated it but the problem with the battery has to do with the phone recieving the cell signal. For some reason the phone runs in overload when searching for a cell signal...I noticed this one day when T-Mo suspended my service and my battery meter never moved all day, I think by night it was down to 85-90%...sure enough that night when I paid my bill and the phone started picking up signal again, the battery depleted at "normal" speed.
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This extended battery barely increases the size of the phone...
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so exactly how much is "barely"? care to give side by side comparison shots?
dubstar_04 said:
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Why do i keep hearing that there is no hotmail support? Android (and G1) works with hotmail just fine! Just go to the Email program and set it up. WHY!! .. I am having connection errors sometimes though..
Battery is a big issue. Never had any luck with it.. EVER.. just unplugged it and after about 1+ hour it's down to 66%. Played a game (slide puzzle) watched 2 youtube vids of about 3 minutes each. And I had it fully drained and recharged a couple of times in the beginning. It didn't even took 10 minutes to drop from 100% to 89%.. But I was on wifi.. Maybe this is normal.
Software has a lot to do with this I think. Yesterday I had about 50-60% left. Did something, can't remember what, opening programs or music. And closed it. After 5 minutes I checked and battery was hot and had drained to orange level. I checked with task manager and only calendar/messaging/tunewiki/music was on. I closed all and restarted the phone, cuz it was still hot. Luckily it lasted a few hours till I got home, with very carefull use..
My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?
FYI - All the same apps,widgets, and settings
**UPDATE**
Doing a factory reset fixed the problem for me!!
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My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?
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Strange, I'm sitting at 75% after 5 hours off the charger and using it for moderate text usage (probably less than 80 messages today). Usually around this time it's sitting closer to 60%.
i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
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i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
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Wow. Have you searched the forum to see if anyone else has the same issue? If not I hope it's not an isolated incident. Then again if it's isolated maybe you can get support on it better...? Good luck finding a solution.
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
yeah some people are reporting bad battery life after update. most people i know are on .3. don't know if .6 fixes this hopefully we get update soon
I did a test last night. Dropped 13% between 1130 and 3:30am With wifi on (got up cause of baby), then only 10% between 330 and 8am with wifi off. So a drop of only 23% overnight.
That's with one exchange account, one gmail account (both syncing as items arrive), htc news set to not sync, but newsdesk and feedr both syncing. Facebook for htc set to sync contacts only.
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I had the same issue on all 2.2 ROMs I tried.. i am now going through the apps one at a time to see which one is the issue.
right now I am 7 hours in and sitting at 75% very light use ( read about 7 emails, 5 new articles and little to no Web surfing). installed 10s so far other than the standard with Fresh latest ROM that is.
I've actually had very good battery life, I'm running the .3 release. Battery life for me has been very comparable to running Baked Snack 9.6, with its underclocking/undervolting power save features. Moderate use of the phone for 8 hours (wifi, browsing websites here and there, one navigation route, texting, bunch of short phone calls, playing some games), my battery was around 65 or so, same as I had before for similar usage.
I did do a full wipe though, and haven't calibrated my battery since updating.
Aridon said:
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
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I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
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I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
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maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
-mark
diomark said:
maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
-mark
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Yeah, i already went through all the settings last night.
Aridon said:
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
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This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:
I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.
I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).
While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?
Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?
I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.
/off_my_soap_box
You should send that rant to HTC and Sprint... I think we all stand behind you on that one.
there are lots of reasons a battery might not last. there are way to many tweaks out there which is why you have to do it yourself.
First set the phone up like you normally have it and test the battery life. if you can live with it your good. if not start looking at the settings. Read the tweaks but don't just take them as golden as everyone is different and uses their phone different. Ask yourself if you real need that setting. (I like my screen time out at 2 min. do I need it NO 1 min is fine). When done with the settings move to the apps. load the flat ROM no apps and run for a hour and track your battery life. then add the apps 1 at a time or in small groups and let run an hour and track. there are was if find what apps are using the CPU or Battery but many do this normally and yet don't effect the battery much. Only way i have found is old school add them one at a time. When you find a bad one decide if you need it or can find a replacement.
I am done with Sense as Launcher Pro Plus is awesome and now with the only Widget I was missing (Calendar). Once I done going through my app list I will create a new thread in General to list the bad application I found unless someone else has or does before I done that is.
From what I have gathered from using .3 that apps auto sync/update on their own now with "always on mobile data" turned off. if you use advanced task killer, do a kill of all apps then turn the screen off. If you wait for a few minutes and turn the screen back on you will notice that apps like news, messages, Twitter, Facebook clock, weather and others will be active. From what I gather the decrease in battery life is from apps like those will send/receive data on 2.2 while on 2.1 apps would not update/sync until you manually refreshed or opened the app, as long as you didn't have "always on mobile data" enabled.
Edit: this reason is why I uninstalled fring. Just too bad I cannot uninstalled qik.
trojandnc said:
This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:
I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.
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It is a mini-computer. You don't use it like a "phone" anymore. You shouldn't expect more than 15-20 hours on it. Do you get angry when your laptop runs out of life after 5-6 hours? If you don't want to do tweaks, then don't. Keep a micro-USB at your desk at work and charge it there. I, myself, enjoy rooting so I don't mind tweaking it. I also get 30 hours of life on it due to this. If you don't like to do that, you get what you put into it.
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I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).
While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?
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Again, you have unrealistic expectations for a smart phone it seems. All I have is Set CPU running on my phone with Fresh 3.0.1 and works just fine. I still use my phone like a "Maserati", it just lowers the CPU when the screen is powered off. That is like saying you want your car to idle when you get home at night until the next morning. It doesn't change how you drive it, just how you store it in the garage.
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Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?
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You don't have to use them though. You can remove friendstream and go with either the twitter or FB update app or go without either and just check facebook like anyone else. As far as favorites go, you don't have to use that either. You can just make shortcuts to each person's phone number on that same screen if you think that is sucking all your battery life. There are always other options or fixes, but again you expect the phone to come out of the box perfect without any customization. You are getting away from what Android really is. Something tells me the Iphone would have been more your liking since it is built around lack of true customization. This isn't a rip, but just saying if you want cookie cutter phone reliability, it is hard to beat Apple. If you want the ability to tinker with the phone, the power to change things, and the power to make your phone yours, then that is more Android.
trojandnc said:
I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.
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I can understand your frustration, but nothing was ever promised to us on purchase. I don't remember anywhere seeing something saying the battery would last 30+ hours out of the box. Apple had an actual structural issue with their phone, that is why they had the lawsuits and PR nightmare. This is just the phone doing what most would probably expect(at least anyone who had a G1 or Hero or any of the earlier Android phones). You love the device enough to keep it even with your frustration, something tells me it works quite well for you. But I have yet to see any over-promising/under-delivering on the Evo myself.
And no, I don't work for Sprint or HTC. And no offense meant to you as a person, just I didn't understand your motives on your frustration. Guess we will have different opinions on the Evo so far.
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maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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I had the same battery problem after updating to 2.2. After 3 hours my battery was at 50%. Normally it'd be at 50% after 9 to 10 hours of usage.
I did find that some settings had been reset. Once I turned off all the crap syncing, gtalk logging in, Sprint Zone, etc my battery usage has seemed to flatten out.
I made it an hour and only dropped 2% which is much more like it. This is all with very little usage going on.
Buy a new battery! Best solution!
No joda!
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very funny just pluged my phone in using flipz newest after 19 hours
make sure you are signed out of googletalk !!
I really needed battery. I use my EVO a lot, not much as a smart phone, but as a little computer. I installed several dictionaries and I use them during the day, at least 8 hours or more. My battery was lasting 4 hours before getting the warning. I disabled GPS, 4G, WiFi, everything. I never listen to music on it. I got rid of the live wallpaper. I got rid of most widgets and killed apps several times an hour.
It was getting really stressing for me. I was not always lucky to be at a place with a power outlet.
So I had to do it. It was a somewhat expensive solution. It's the XP18000, which is almost like EVO (and this does not intend to be an advertisement). It's heavier than EVO, but it's just like another book in my backpack, but much smaller than a book. It's for laptops, but I figured out that in the future I will be able to use it for other gadgets, or for EVO II.
I've been using it for 3 days, and it seems that it will last for a week or longer, because it's almost full still. It's so great. At least for my peace of mind. Now I don't have to worry. I can be at ease.
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If you've got the room for it, I think that's a great idea. Like you said, you can use it for other devices as well. There are smaller ones out there - the Zagg Sparq comes to mind.
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If you've got the room for it, I think that's a great idea. Like you said, you can use it for other devices as well. There are smaller ones out there - the Zagg Sparq comes to mind.
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You are right. There were some other models (but they had only this brand for some reason) and they were cheaper, but maybe I'll buy a netbook or something, and it would be useful for that too. The box says it can power a laptop for 6 hours with one charge, so maybe it will last a week for evo, or even more, it looks like it. And of course, if I can use an outlet I will, because this battery charges max 500 times before dying according to the specs.
This goody might be too much for a smart phone.
Ah, and also I bought it with the Sprint rebate I just got yesterday.... I guess that's why they give you a rebate...
Well, look at it this way: If a full charge lasts you two days and you use it to the max all the time, it will last you 1000 days. That's almost 3 years of continuous use. Even if you dried it up every day, it would still spec out for a year and a half. And if you only used it for your phone and you get, say, 4 days out of it, it will last you through this presidency and the next.
Use an outlet if it's easy, but if it lasts anywhere near as long as it says it's going to, you don't have to be that conservative.
Hey OP, let me ask you something: Have tried not using advanced task killer? I see you're using it on your evo. Did you know Google and all developers recommend against using task killers and they can actually severely hurt your battery life? Just throwing that out there since you're complaining about battery life. You do mention that you're killing apps "several times an hour". Thats not good and I guarantee you makes a HUGE difference
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Use an outlet if it's easy, but if it lasts anywhere near as long as it says it's going to, you don't have to be that conservative.
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The other thing is that it's not just a power adapter, it a charger, so once EVO is charged, no more power pack for a few hours.
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Hey OP, let me ask you something: Have tried not using advanced task killer? I see you're using it on your evo. Did you know Google and all developers recommend against using task killers and they can actually severely hurt your battery life? Just throwing that out there since you're complaining about battery life. You do mention that you're killing apps "several times an hour". Thats not good and I guarantee you makes a HUGE difference
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I tried with the app killer, and without it, and I really didn't see much difference in battery life.
The only I noticed is that after the Froyo upgrade a few days ago, the app killer was useless, as the apps would come back right away. So it was useless. This is a stock EVO.
But you are right, now I can get rid of the killer!
(but as I said, I was overusing it as a dictionary, or as many dictionaries, so it was not a normal use.. It was on most of the time. It's easier to carry EVO loaded with dictionaries, than actual books...I was also using dictionaries on line, wordreference.com, etc. so I was (I am) definitely using it a lot, and that justifies the battery loss. I disabled the widgets to compensate for the other apps I was using)
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I tried with the app killer, and without it, and I really didn't see much difference in battery life.
The only I noticed is that after the Froyo upgrade a few days ago, the app killer was useless, as the apps would come back right away. So it was useless. This is a stock EVO.
But you are right, now I can get rid of the killer!
(but as I said, I was overusing it as a dictionary, or as many dictionaries, so it was not a normal use.. It was on most of the time. It's easier to carry EVO loaded with dictionaries, than actual books...I was also using dictionaries on line, wordreference.com, etc. so I was (I am) definitely using it a lot, and that justifies the battery loss. I disabled the widgets to compensate for the other apps I was using)
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Task Killers are garbage; don't use them. So let me get this straight, you use your Evo, with the screen on, at least 4 hours a day. That is why you are now using this Energizer battery pack to charge your Evo during the day?
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Task Killers are garbage; don't use them. So let me get this straight, you use your Evo, with the screen on, at least 4 hours a day. That is why you are now using this Energizer battery pack to charge your Evo during the day?
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I use EVO much more than 4 hours a day. Much more. I have to unlock the screen and press that little button maybe 40 times a day (it's a hassle), many times an hour, and that takes battery too I'm sure. I had to charge evo at least 3 times while on the road, at Starbucks or any place..... but since Starbucks started offering free WiFi, they covered many power outlets with chairs or cabinets.
I should have bought a little computer instead from the beginning, or a tablet, to load my dictionaries correct?
But now the problem is solved.
But again, I have to say that I was doing the same thing with my Blackberry before, and I would never have to recharge the battery until when I got home at night. That's why I expected the same, or at least I didn't even think on batteries when I switched to the HTC EVO. I wasn't thinking on the battery issues, because before I didn't have any.
I feel bad for you son, cause I got 99 problems but battery life ain't 1!
Seriously. I don't know what all this whine about battery life is about. I am running stock 2.2 unrooted. All I did was change a few settings on my phone and I get battery life to last 1-2 full days with normal use. With heavy usage, I get only about 15 hours.
All I did to achieve this was
* Turn of background data
* Lower the screen time out to 30 seconds
* Lower the contrast of my display
* Synching Gmail (push notifications) and Weather (every 6 hours), disabling news, stocks, twitter/facebook (I don't use any of that stuff)
* Keep Wifi, BT, and GPS off, mostly because I do not need them.
I personally don't use facebook/twitter all that much and really don't have a desire to be updated when my friends change their status. But either way, my configuration works for me. And, I am not sacrificing any features (that I use) to achieve my setup.
I don't know. I read all the little battery dances to do to squeeze out more battery life. I've tried them, but frankly I see little if any difference in my battery life if I do that. The phone uses a lot of battery, yes. But, it is also more powerful than the desktop computer I was using two years ago. Hell, it is more powerful than the laptop computer I was using four years ago. And today, I have it in the palm of my hand.
We cannot expect to get the same battery lives out of our EVOs as we did from an old school Nokia. The fact is this phone just does "more". My previous phone was a Palm Treo Pro. That phone literally did crap, and I still had to charge it almost nightly.
Just sayin'.
I agree, I actually managed to get 54 hours out of my Evo with light use and I thought that was impressive, sure I can probably kill it in 5 or 6 hours if I use it non stop but I have yet to need to charge it at work because I can't ever find the time to play on my phone all day.
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So OP, you've turned off all the best features of a smart phone and you get great life. Fun, yawn, I could have all that with a flip phone.
Impress me and do the same while actually USING all the cool features. I don't think folks want a dumb smart phone with great battery life.......
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So OP, you've turned off all the best features of a smart phone and you get great life. Fun, yawn, I could have all that with a flip phone.
Impress me and do the same while actually USING all the cool features. I don't think folks want a dumb smart phone with great battery life.......
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lol true, like the other guy, i could get 54 hours with all that stuff off and setCPU, but most of the time i dont...because i use it
Syncing Gmail every 6 HOURS?! Haha!
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So OP, you've turned off all the best features of a smart phone and you get great life. Fun, yawn, I could have all that with a flip phone.
Impress me and do the same while actually USING all the cool features. I don't think folks want a dumb smart phone with great battery life.......
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What cool feature am I not using? I have my push Gmail, play Word Feud constantly, am always browsing the internet, etc. I just don't use facebook, twitter, stocks, etc. To me, that stuff isn't cool.
And no, I synch weather every six hours.
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Syncing Gmail every 6 HOURS?! Haha!
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I have my gmail pushed and weather synced every 3 hours.
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I have my gmail pushed and weather synced every 3 hours.
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Well, he originally stated that he had both Gmail and weather set to sync every 6 hours. Personally, I don't have any battery problems, but I am rooted with Sprint's bloatware removed.
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So OP, you've turned off all the best features of a smart phone and you get great life. Fun, yawn, I could have all that with a flip phone.
Impress me and do the same while actually USING all the cool features. I don't think folks want a dumb smart phone with great battery life.......
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+1
exactly
who cares that you have a limited dumbed down phone that can run days on end blah!!! This device is obviously meant to be user connected. We shouldnt have to shell out money and then limit ourselves to certain **** just to conserve battery!!! htc is even dumber for making the charge software charge to a set 1500mah or whatever the specs of the stock battery is #fail #facepalm
lol
not to mention...we didnt pay $200 plus for a device and $10 a month for nothing.
can we compare that to buying a cadillac or a mercedes with no leather seats? or how about those new modern muscle cars like a charger/challenger without the hemi hehee
"sure you can ride to cali on a tricycle, but why would you?"
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Well, he originally stated that he had both Gmail and weather set to sync every 6 hours. Personally, I don't have any battery problems, but I am rooted with Sprint's bloatware removed.
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I meant weather synchs every 6. Gmail is and always is push.
Hey guys! I hope you're all enjoying your new Priv! I got mine on release day, so I've been tinkering with it since I got it. A few things bothered me about the device: the battery would take forever to charge, even using a Qualcomm certified quick charger, and the battery would drain abnormally fast. Even with no apps running, Antutu would only score 40,000 to 50,000 and 800/2500 in Geekbench.
I found out that the T-Mobile MyAccount app was always running in the background and took up 6% of my phone's battery, just above android OS. After I disabled that app, I found that a full charge would only take about an hour, versus the 2 hours it took before. Battery life also skyrocketed from about 8 hours to 14+. Antutu scores went up to 60,000 to 67,000 (I tested several times) and Geekbench now consistently scores 1200/3500 for me. The phone also doesn't get NEARLY as hot as it used to.
One other thing I did was to change all my accounts in the hub to sync every 15 minutes instead of push, which also seemed to help with the battery life. Hope this info helps you turn your Priv into the best phone it can be!
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Hey guys! I hope you're all enjoying your new Priv! I got mine on release day, so I've been tinkering with it since I got it. A few things bothered me about the device: the battery would take forever to charge, even using a Qualcomm certified quick charger, and the battery would drain abnormally fast. Even with no apps running, Antutu would only score 40,000 to 50,000 and 800/2500 in Geekbench.
I found out that the T-Mobile MyAccount app was always running in the background and took up 6% of my phone's battery, just above android OS. After I disabled that app, I found that a full charge would only take about an hour, versus the 2 hours it took before. Battery life also skyrocketed from about 8 hours to 14+. Antutu scores went up to 60,000 to 67,000 (I tested several times) and Geekbench now consistently scores 1200/3500 for me. The phone also doesn't get NEARLY as hot as it used to.
One other thing I did was to change all my accounts in the hub to sync every 15 minutes instead of push, which also seemed to help with the battery life. Hope this info helps you turn your Priv into the best phone it can be!
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I heard that some people on Blackberry forums were reporting that T-Mobile My Account app could/is causing battery drainage. I didn't like my account app showing me notifications and went to options in that app and remove all the check marks from the there. I had no issues with battery, but as a precaution I always disable apps that I never use.
Thanks for the heads-up. Finally picked one up today and felt that it did indeed heat up quicker than it should and definitely wasn't charging as fast as I thought it should be. Hopefully this helps!
My Priv's battery has been an utter nightmare - gonna give this a shot. Have you noticed any adverse effects from disabling the app? My main concern is if BingeOn will still work. I'm okay with not being able to disable it (not a big video guy) but free music streaming is super important to me - streaming music at work constantly during an 8hr shift, in the car during my commute... yeah, I need that.
And, before anyone says anything, it's not the music streaming doing it. In fact, the battery seems almost better when I'm doing that since I've just got the phone sitting in my pocket. Wakelocks are an absolute nuisance though - "awake" time is well over 10x SoT.
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My Priv's battery has been an utter nightmare - gonna give this a shot. Have you noticed any adverse effects from disabling the app? My main concern is if BingeOn will still work. I'm okay with not being able to disable it (not a big video guy) but free music streaming is super important to me - streaming music at work constantly during an 8hr shift, in the car during my commute... yeah, I need that.
And, before anyone says anything, it's not the music streaming doing it. In fact, the battery seems almost better when I'm doing that since I've just got the phone sitting in my pocket. Wakelocks are an absolute nuisance though - "awake" time is well over 10x SoT.
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BingeOn doesn't require any T-Mobile bloat to run. It's handled on the network side, not on the device itself. Also, unless they recently changed something, you don't need BingeOn enabled to get free music streaming. Music streaming is free regardless.
Thanks for that. So far the Priv is doing a fine job keeping itself alive now that app is gone. Nice to know I won't be blowing past my data allowance. I'm new to T-Mobile and so far, so good. Well, other than their app destroying my phone of course.
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Thanks for that. So far the Priv is doing a fine job keeping itself alive now that app is gone. Nice to know I won't be blowing past my data allowance. I'm new to T-Mobile and so far, so good. Well, other than their app destroying my phone of course.
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You'll get all that bloat with any carrier
I do want to point out that the Priv does an awesome job of standby. It makes sense that a 2K screen could drain the battery quickly, but I've gone 9 hours with only 40% drain when I barely use it, so it stays alive well when you aren't actively using it. I was also streaming music the whole time, but since the screen itself was off it saved my battery.
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You'll get all that bloat with any carrier
I do want to point out that the Priv does an awesome job of standby. It makes sense that a 2K screen could drain the battery quickly, but I've gone 9 hours with only 40% drain when I barely use it, so it stays alive well when you aren't actively using it. I was also streaming music the whole time, but since the screen itself was off it saved my battery.
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Yep, that's been my experience. On for ~16 hours with 3hrs SoT. Not bad, really. I wouldn't mind a little more longevity but hey, that's what power banks are for.
Here's my own battery experience. I only removed the t-mobile apps and using Facebook on chrome and not the app. I'm a moderate user 2.5 hrs of on screen time!
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Here's my own battery experience. I only removed the t-mobile apps and using Facebook on chrome and not the app. I'm a moderate user 2.5 hrs of on screen time!
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The screen is a killer on this device, but it shouldn't be quite that bad. Are all your BlackBerry apps up to date? Some people have to manually check for updates for some reason.
Also, I disabled every T-Mobile app except visual voicemail. No idea if that'll help or not but it's worth a shot.
Finally, how long have you had the device? Phones always seem screwy battery-life wise during the first few days, regardless of system health.
I disabled all bloatware, this phone dies WAYYYYY to fast compare to my prior note 5.
I really dont, but i'll need to trade back in this phone if I don't get this solved. A man needs a phone with a battery!
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The screen is a killer on this device, but it shouldn't be quite that bad. Are all your BlackBerry apps up to date? Some people have to manually check for updates for some reason.
Also, I disabled every T-Mobile app except visual voicemail. No idea if that'll help or not but it's worth a shot.
Finally, how long have you had the device? Phones always seem screwy battery-life wise during the first few days, regardless of system health.
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How about this one for a little bit over 2 weeks and so far it's been phenomenal for me 1 degrees in love with a good battery life is I disabled Facebook and I just use the web to look at Facebook so that save my battery by at least 20%.
techprint said:
I disabled all bloatware, this phone dies WAYYYYY to fast compare to my prior note 5.
I really dont, but i'll need to trade back in this phone if I don't get this solved. A man needs a phone with a battery!
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Other than battery life, how are you liking the switch? I like but don't love my note 5. I hadn't had a note since the original version, but I'm finding again that I just don't use the spen. I'm thinking about jumping back into a blackberry with keyboard.
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Other than battery life, how are you liking the switch? I like but don't love my note 5. I hadn't had a note since the original version, but I'm finding again that I just don't use the spen. I'm thinking about jumping back into a blackberry with keyboard.
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I'll take back what I previously wrote, as of yesterday I managed to get 24 hours on phone battery. at standby this phone doesn't use any sort of battery, I killed 20 percent in 40 mins on youtube though..
Going to give it a solid week, if not i'll return it and hopefully pick up the new s7 if release by then. I was on the same boat as you, got tired of the note and just wanted a switch. I'll keep checking back leaving my reviews here
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I'll take back what I previously wrote, as of yesterday I managed to get 24 hours on phone battery. at standby this phone doesn't use any sort of battery, I killed 20 percent in 40 mins on youtube though..
Going to give it a solid week, if not i'll return it and hopefully pick up the new s7 if release by then. I was on the same boat as you, got tired of the note and just wanted a switch. I'll keep checking back leaving my reviews here
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I'll second this - screen off, next to zero battery used. Screen on, battery tanks like crazy. I think I'm gonna stick with it though I'm tempted to give the V10 a shot - I need a tough phone and this most certainly is not.