today a friend of mine bought his new Htc hero into work and showed me all the brilliant FREE apps available on his android (google) based phone ..... and dont even get me started on the 90,000 odd iphone apps available to iphone users. so i went off and looked on the M$ marketplace on my HD2 .......what did i find ...bugger all and they even have the cheek to charge £6 odd for crappy old games like pacman !!!!!!!!!!!
Errr... yeah, where shall I start?
Okay, first of all: There are currently about 30,000 applications for WM available. That's twice as many as you find for Android.
I also estimate that 80% of all apps available for the iPhone are useless. If only 33% of the WM apps are useless, that means you get the same amount of useful applications for WM as you get for the iPhone.
Secondly: Marketplace has opened only two months ago. Sure, there should be more applications in there, considering the 30,000 applications that are available for WM outside the Marketplace. But other application stores have opened with even less apps available.
Nothing stops you from getting your applications from other sources, outside the Marketplace. There are also lots of FREE apps available for Windows Mobile, just look at what people are doind in this forum.
In fact, it's an advantage for us that Microsoft doesn't limit distribution of applications to their marketplace like Apple and Google do. This way, we and the developers have more freedom and applications are not banned (like Google Voice for the iPhone, to name one famous example - but there are hundreds).
So, in this sense, Microsoft is BETTER than Apple and Google.
EDIT: Please change your thread title to something useful (i.e. one should see from the title what the thread is about).
Who cares about Marketplace? As maati said, there's plenty of other places to get applications from.
i just think m$ are missing out on making their platform content rich.... i know most of the apps are useless but some are fun and the games are good....i was only stating a simple observation. everyone on the forum seems so darn serious !!!
And I gave you the actual reason for your observation
I also had hoped for more apps available from the beginning, but the number will grow for sure. I don't think that Android had 800 applications after only two months, did it?
And you don't have to rely on Marketplace, so there's nothing wrong...
...okay, there is something wrong, but that's another story: The 800 apps are only in the US, every country gets its own Marketplace and that's really a stupid thing. Well, let's hope they fix that - if you want to have a look at the US American Marketplace, then there's a 'hack' for you - just search the forum for it.
Thread closed: OP is uninformed.
Windows Mobile exist for a decade, plenty of apps available outside the brand new marketplace.
The marketplace still has several issues, non the least the protection scheme issue. (which allows a cracker to crack ALL programs in one go with a small bit of universal code)
This is why some developers are hesitant to publish on the marketplace.
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Amazon is selling it for a $0.01, so I think I'm ready to take the plunge into WP7 and what seems to be the best phone on the platform. I develop almost exclusively on the .NET platform, own an Elite, and love Zune. I think I'll fit into the ecosystem nicely! I've seen varying spec sheets that say this phone has a FFC. True story??
Also, are there any tethering solutions available? Are apps being updated to take advantage of TOAST notifications? Do 3rd party apps utilize Live Tiles? What's the latest on the Jan. update?
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Amazon is selling it for a $0.01, so I think I'm ready to take the plunge into WP7 and what seems to be the best phone on the platform. I develop almost exclusively on the .NET platform, own an Elite, and love Zune. I think I'll fit into the ecosystem nicely! I've seen varying spec sheets that say this phone has a FFC. True story??
Also, are there any tethering solutions available? Are apps being updated to take advantage of TOAST notifications? Do 3rd party apps utilize Live Tiles? What's the latest on the Jan. update?
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No FFC (assuming you mean front facing camera).
Yes you can tether "unofficially" using the diagnostics mode, but, yes it works and it is very well documented.
Apps can and do send toast notifications, but, they must be allowed by the end user.
Yes, 3rd party apps do, indeed, use live tile notifications, as well.
M$ will only confirm Cut and Paste in the January update, though much else is rumored.
Thanks! It should be on the doorstep by the 22nd.
Enjoy
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Thanks! It should be on the doorstep by the 22nd.
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Love mine. Vast improvement over TP2 running WM 6.5 and Android. Miss vcard support, cut & paste, and video MMS, but these are fairly minor and will probably be included in updates soon. Never used phone as mass storage, so I'm not in that camp...
Can any of the settings be pinned? I'm going to use an unlocked emu sometime tonight
In case you haven't heard they give out a free paid app every day! Yesterday was Picsay Pro and today is Wolfram Alpha! Both great apps! I high suggest installing the app store and checking every day I'm not really sure what happens when the app get's updated by the developer though.
I uninstalled it because I was offended that it was notifying me about updates even though I hadn't run the app since a reboot...
I hate that presumption that my cpu and bandwidth is free for the taking, or that I even care that an app that I haven't run for a few days has been updated...
Also, I had installed a free app from amazon app store, and it wouldn't run after I uninstalled amazon app store (reasonable I suppose).
Otherwise, I buy a lot of stuff from amazon - I'm a loyal customer of theirs...
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I think the Amazon Appstore is a great alternative to the Android Market, but I'm glad we have both.
The Appstore is much more like Apple's App Store (and not just in name only). Amazon reviews and tests all applications, and if they don't work as advertised, are buggy, or have security issues, they get denied. One one hand, it's nice to know you can trust your app downloads, especially when there have been some rather notable security problems with Market apps.
On the other hand, there's nothing stopping Amazon from denying legitimate apps like Apple has a habit of doing. That said, I haven't seen any evidence they're doing that, and generally speaking I think Amazon is a rather trustworthy company (see the platform-agnostic Kindle software and their willingness to go toe-to-toe with record labels to give us Cloud access to our own music).
Oh, and ironically, the Appstore's search engine is about a bajillion times better than the Market's. I'll never understand why Google's Android Market search engine is so awful.
Of course, the free apps -- which are just discounted to $0 from the full price for a day, so they're handled exactly the same as a real purchase as far as updates go -- are just the cherry on top. But what a cherry. At first, I was worried they would just go the easy route and give out ****e apps. But that definitely hasn't been the case (with the exception of some "meh" games). In the slightly over two weeks the Appstore's been available, I've nabbed legitimately top-shelf apps like Shazam Encore, SoundHound Infinity, SwiftKey Keyboard, PicSay Pro, Wolfram Alpha, Weatherbug Elite, and a whole bunch of games, many of which are pretty darn good, like Fruit Ninja and Backbreaker Football. That's a lot of money saved (like $30 for apps I've listed here alone).
Amazon App store is GREAT
We need a second option from Google
I like how there aren't problems downloading apps and apps will correctly queue for download. With the Android market on 2.2 it will sit there and try to download multiple apps only to either error out on the download or do a continuous installing thing that you have to cancel anyway.
Darn I missed picsay!! How did that happen!!
One bad thing about Amazon...yesterday I went to play Angry Birds Rio, and it gave me an error saying that it didn't have a network connection to verify my purchase.
So if you are in Airplane mode, or don't have a connection, it sounds like the apps from Amazon won't run. Not an issue most of the time, but annoying nonetheless.
My morning ritual now involves checking the Amazon App Store.
does anyone know if you can transfer apps already purchased onto the same phone if we flash a new rom? i'm assuming you can, but the data saves might disappear
Apps can be installed on unlimited (I'm not sure about that, but I've got it going on 2) phones. Data might be transferable through Titanium but I've not actually tried.
ah cool. hopefully TiBU data restoring won't cause force closes because i know it sometimes does
Hello guys,
For those using the official 2.3 rom I would like to shar some apps I find very useful and I think some might also miss from custom roms:
- QuickPic
Very good Image and Video Gallery and almost identical to MIUI's.
The Gallery available in stock rom is just a big failure and almost nude of options.
This one is just absolutly complete and good!
- Quick Boot
Miss the 4 way reboot menu from custom roms? Well not anymore....
- Moboplayer
A powerful video player.
- Go Launcher EX
For me the best Laucher. Very custobizable, easy and fast.
Also, many many many free apps, widgets, themes, etc
- TunIn Radio
Very good online radio app.
Well, hope you enjoy.
If you wish to share your apps with others just post
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- Go Launcher EX
For me the best Laucher. Very custobizable, easy and fast.
Also, many many many free apps, widgets, themes, etc
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I was using the Launcher Pro, but them I tried the 360 Lancher (it's chinese but we have a english version on XDA) and I like it a lot. It's very light, smoth and give you nice effects and themes...
360 Launcher Beta 1.5.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1345601
360 Battery Guard (Battery monitor, saving mode, widget etc)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19491411
personally, i will not suggest you to use any applications developed by 360safe company. if you know what that company is, you will say goodbye to 360safe - an evil company.
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why is 360 a bad company?
I'm using this alternative launcher:
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.ss.launcher&feature=search_result
it's fast, light and highly customisable.
Also I'd like more ligux tools, instead of quick boot for reboot menu:
lovetide said:
personally, i will not suggest you to use any applications developed by 360safe company. if you know what that company is, you will say goodbye to 360safe - an evil company.
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Can you please explain it to us?
I really like this launcher...
Nice launcher sslauncher
Thanks .
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why is 360 a bad company?
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sr21 said:
Can you please explain it to us?
I really like this launcher...
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My opinion will be subjective, so please read the following stories with your clear mind. If you still trust 360Safe/Qihoo company, you can still use their products.
Here's some true stories occured in China internet history:
An evil man - HongYi Zhou(周鸿祎)
Evil #1: At the early internet age in China, there was a IE browser helper object called 3721 Internet Assistant - the most notorious malware developed by 3721 company - HongYi Zhou's company. Evil behavior: force install, hard to uninstall, ad popup, etc...
Evil #2: Yahoo China acquired 3721 company at 2003, and 3721 Internet Assistant renamed to Yahoo Assistant. It should change to nice under a big company, right? NO! it still act as evil as it was, all the evil behaviors on 3721 still exist on Yahoo Assistant.
Evil & Ridiculous #3: Zhou left Yahoo later, and become CEO of an "unsafe" company - 360Safe, then 360 claim Yahoo Assistant is malware! What kind of man (especially a business man) will do that? You created a son and raise it with your full energy, then one day, you said your son is a freak, and you will kill it, an evil man did this! I think this touched the bottom line of moral as a human being, and Zhou did it.
An evil company - Qihoo/360Safe company
3QWar2010: Year 2010, the QQ-360 war (we called ThankYou/3Q war by transliteration) was initiated by Qihoo/360Safe company. Basically, 360PrivacyGuard monitored any process named QQ.exe even if you rename notepad.exe to QQ.exe, and give its users an alert said QQ.exe is scanning your files etc... and 360QQGuard act like a trojan, it inject QQ software to remove advertisment in QQ software and blocked autoupdate service of QQ and replace the default browser launcher in QQ to their own 360Browser. What kind of "safe" company did such an unsafe trojan software? 360 did! If you ask why, I will say because their boss is Zhou. Fortunately, Qihoo lost the lawsuit at last.
I won't say "once a criminal, always a criminal", but I would say "dog eat ****, it never changed, it never will"(狗改不了吃屎 in Chinese). If you're an Android fans before and today you suddenly becomes an iPhone fans, you should check your dream first to see if you are 《Inception》ed by Leonardo before you're sure you really becomes an iPhone fans. That's my personal opinion on this company. For me, I never trust this man and this company, and you?
That's why I don't suggest you to use any software products developed by 360, personally.
Apology for my bad English, wish you can understand it.
lovetide said:
My opinion will be subjective, so please read the following stories with your clear mind. If you still trust 360Safe/Qihoo company, you can still use their products.
Here's some true stories occured in China internet history:
An evil man - HongYi Zhou(周鸿祎)
Evil #1: At the early internet age in China, there was a IE browser helper object called 3721 Internet Assistant - the most notorious malware developed by 3721 company - HongYi Zhou's company, evil behavior: force install, hard to uninstall, ad popup, etc.
Evil #2: Yahoo China acquied 3721 company at 2003, and 3721 Internet Assistant renamed to Yahoo Assistant, it should change to be nice under a big company, right? NO! it still act like evil as it was, all the evil behavior on 3721 still exist on Yahoo Assistant.
Evil & Ridiculous #3: Zhou leaved Yahoo later, and become CEO of an "unsafe" company 360Safe, then 360 claim Yahoo Assistant is malware! What kind of man (especially a business man) will do that? You created a son and raise it with your full energy, then one day, you said your son is a freak, and you will kill it, an evil man did this! I think this touched the bottom line of moral as a human being, and Zhou did it.
An evil company - Qihoo/360Safe company
3QWar2010: Year 2010, the QQ-360 war (we called ThankYou/3Q war by transliteration) was initiated by Qihoo/360Safe company, basically, 360PrivacyGuard monitored any process named QQ.exe even if you rename notepad.exe to QQ.exe, and give its users an alert said QQ.exe is scanning your files etc... and 360QQGuard act like a trojan to inject QQ software to remove advertisment in QQ software and blocked QQ's autoupdate service and replace the default browser launcher in QQ to their own 360Browser. What kind of "safe" company did such a trojan-like unsafe software? 360 did! If you ask why, I will say because their boss is Zhou. Fortunately, Qihoo losed on the lawsuit at last.
I won't say "once a criminal, always a criminal", but I would say "dog eat ****, it never changed, it never will"(狗改不了吃屎 in Chinese). If you're an Anroid fans before and today you suddenly becomes an iPhone fans, you should check your dream first to see if you are 《Inception》ed by Leonardo before you're sure you becomes an iiPhone fans. That's my personal opinion on this company. For me, I never trust this man and this company, and you?
That's why I don't suggest you to use any software products developed by 360, personally.
Apology for my English, wish you can understand it.
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Thank you for your explanation
Even though I don't know anything about HongYi Zhou(周鸿祎), I have to agree with him about the 360safe company. I've been working with computers since back in the 286(80286) days, both software and hardware wise. I'm also an American living in China, and I've used a lot of "chinese" computers while I've been here. This 360Safe software is really strange stuff. They use it in place of IE here (not that I like IE) and for other stuff. I don't know what it is about this software, it just acts strange and my years of computer experience tell me to stay away from it.
Let me give you an example, the one that sealed the deal for me. There is an android app by 360safe. I won't write the name because it's probably banned on XDA forums and I'd rather not get banned for writing it. It is a program for downloading android warez and will check for new update on those warez. It's essentially an illegal version of Android market, they even say so themselves:
translated description of this software:
Description
360 treasures, the most secure software download platform Android
360 treasures android version v1.2.2 update:
1 to optimize boot speed;
(2) interface to modify some of the details;
3 Recommended section to add the latest on-line;
4 to modify part of the bug.
360 treasures android version is 360 Android's new mobile phone software for launch platform.
Here's a variety of software 20,000 360 Security Center after all testing is the most secure software download platform. 360 treasures every moment will be to recommend a variety of applications and the most fiery of the most fun of the game, you play the machine up to a fashion person. Built-in management capabilities, allowing you to easily manage phone software, updated, uninstalled.
We provide you with the safest, most stable channel for download, and strive to make the user the most assured and best use of the Android software market. I hope you can find a treasure box in like, fun baby.
Related words: software download, android software downloads, e-marketing, application market
The same market: android market, Android market, official market, security market wisdom, machine front market, superior billion market, android black market
With huawei handset, if you are like me, bit tired that every custom rom has that one thing that does not work, or even if you are extremely like me and decided in the end to just keep the original .32 kernel Froyo, Root Explorer or ES filemanager on rooted system is a must.
All those huawei's default apps, crap, so much crap, and some even not usable for international users. Worse even, you cannot uninstall any of it. And some things are confusing, like having a huawei music, and android default music app. Personally I removed both replacing music with newest google music. I personally like rootexplorer for the job, you can explore inside APK files and find what ones have .huawei in their com line so you do not accidentally delete actually useful piece of software.
Thanks for the tip with quickpic. I really long after briefly trying MIUI wanted a seperate app for gallery (I would like option to choose manner the pictures are sorted by) - and now I probably found it.
Thanks all of you very much for these very usseful sharings and applications and programs...
QuickPic is fantastic app.
Thanks Druida69
quickpic,go launcher,player pro and moboplayer. Favourite Four
FriendCaster facebook is also a great app. If you check running apps you will se that official facebook app uses 24 or more MB of RAM and stays at running processes even when you dont use it while FriendCaster only uses 10MB and goes to cached processes if you dont use it. And it also has nicer UI than official app
thanks for quick boot i need this...
Tweetdeck
Pure News widget- choose your type of news you want to be updated form different websites
Gemini app manager its also a very good app t control autorun of applications
typci said:
Even though I don't know anything about HongYi Zhou(周鸿祎), I have to agree with him about the 360safe company. I've been working with computers since back in the 286(80286) days, both software and hardware wise. I'm also an American living in China, and I've used a lot of "chinese" computers while I've been here. This 360Safe software is really strange stuff. They use it in place of IE here (not that I like IE) and for other stuff. I don't know what it is about this software, it just acts strange and my years of computer experience tell me to stay away from it.
Let me give you an example, the one that sealed the deal for me. There is an android app by 360safe. I won't write the name because it's probably banned on XDA forums and I'd rather not get banned for writing it. It is a program for downloading android warez and will check for new update on those warez. It's essentially an illegal version of Android market, they even say so themselves:
translated description of this software:
Description
360 treasures, the most secure software download platform Android
360 treasures android version v1.2.2 update:
1 to optimize boot speed;
(2) interface to modify some of the details;
3 Recommended section to add the latest on-line;
4 to modify part of the bug.
360 treasures android version is 360 Android's new mobile phone software for launch platform.
Here's a variety of software 20,000 360 Security Center after all testing is the most secure software download platform. 360 treasures every moment will be to recommend a variety of applications and the most fiery of the most fun of the game, you play the machine up to a fashion person. Built-in management capabilities, allowing you to easily manage phone software, updated, uninstalled.
We provide you with the safest, most stable channel for download, and strive to make the user the most assured and best use of the Android software market. I hope you can find a treasure box in like, fun baby.
Related words: software download, android software downloads, e-marketing, application market
The same market: android market, Android market, official market, security market wisdom, machine front market, superior billion market, android black market
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You may already heard that Apple banned Qihoo/360 from their App Store recently.
Apple Bans Qihoo Apps From iTunes App Store (penn-olson)
China’s Qihoo 360 Says Its Mobile Apps Removed From Apple Store (Bloomberg)
Qihoo 360: Apps Should Be Back On Apple App Store Shortly (The Wall Street Journal)