hi
i want to buy dell venue pro,unlock it and use it in at&t..
i searched a lot on internet and there are some posts that it cannot work under at&t's 3g network because of the frequency band.
is it possible to change the frequency band so i can use dell venue in at&t..
The Venue pro has these bands:
UMTS 900/1700/2100
GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
HSDPA 7.2Mbps/HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Which
At&t utms 3/3.5G bands are 1900/850 so you wont have high speed service, but the phone will probably work on the AT&T network on edge.
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here in canada we got a new phone provider called wind mobile that operates a 1700mhz UMTS network (not 100% sure) my td2 didn't work on it but i was wondering if its possible to flash a radio rom that would let me connect to their network. they have unlimited data plans you see, a first for us because rogers is painfully expensive.
also if someone could confirm that my td2 would work with rogers' hspa network because right now im not using 3g and have no way of knowing if ill get full speed (not edge) if i get a data plan.
hope someone here can answer me, thx in advance!
HSDPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSUPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent.)
Straight from HTC's website.
ok so if rogers is on 850/1900 HSDPA and the TD2 supports those frequencies under GSM (not hsdpa - thats what it says): the question is will it work?
and im guessing theres no way to make it support 1700mhz even with the most intense hacking am i rite?
You're right
UMTS frequency cannot be altered by software hacks, it's hardware dependent
ok so i just got data (fido network) and im stuck on the edge network. using HTC's default 6.5 rom. is there anyway i can get hspa speeds on this thing??
I have a tmobile vibrant phone (hardware only). According to the phone specs i SHOULD be able to get 3g signal with my fido sim card since the phone seems to support all the same frequencies as the Canadian i9000.... but i only get edge.
If you guys are getting 3G with fido or rogers sim cards, did you have to set anything special in the phone settings?
Thanks!
Vibrant T-mobile 3G runs on 1700
that is why you only get EDGE (2G)
Fido, Rogers & Bell runs on 850 & 1900 for 3G
On my way to work today this is what i saw in the network box.
inside my house - EDGE
Outside my house - 3G
back country roads to work - i saw just G or no signal (normal i loose signal with my iphone and blackberry on there)
at work - back on edge
So i DO get 3g somehow! or is it just teasing me by showing 3G?
i read somewhere that the t-mo vibrant does have 1900 as one of its 3g bands, so this is why your phone has been able to pick up 3g at times. the problem for you is that rogers/fido mainly use the 850 band. i had the nokia n97 mini that had the 1900 but no 850 and while driving around most of the gta i would get 3g, but when i went into buildings, houses, etc, it would drop to edge.
Maybe your phone supports 1900 and not 850 MHz? Or the oposite? That would explain why you would get bad UMTS coverage.
@hondaguy you were faster than me
boravr6 said:
I have a tmobile vibrant phone (hardware only). According to the phone specs i SHOULD be able to get 3g signal with my fido sim card since the phone seems to support all the same frequencies as the Canadian i9000.... but i only get edge.
If you guys are getting 3G with fido or rogers sim cards, did you have to set anything special in the phone settings?
Thanks!
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To my knowledge the T-Mobile Vibrant does not support the major Canadian 3g bands. It is quad band 2g, which is why you are able to get edge but it is only 2 band 3g, at least according to this spec sheet:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2439&c=samsung_sgh-t959_galaxy_s_vibrant
T-mobile uses the 1700 and 2100 UMTS bands for 3g, Bell/Rogers/Telus/Virgin/Fido use 850/1900 UMTS bands for 3g. Therefore the 3g radio on the Vibrant is not compatible with these networks.
However, WIND mobile uses the 1700/2100 UMTS bands for 3g and you can use unlocked T-Mobile phones to their full ability on Wind's network. Wind is only in major urban centres though so this may not help you if you're not in the city. Hopefully you are as Wind has a pretty sweet unlimited data plan!
http://shop.windmobile.ca/
On the other hand according this this article from Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/22/confirmed-galaxy-s-unlock-codes-are-stored-in-your-phone-vibra/
If they're right that the Vibrant is somehow capable of AT&T 3g, it would mean the phone has to be tri-band UMTS: 850, 1700, 2100 (or 1700,1900,2100) as AT&T uses the 850/1900 bands like Rogers/Bell/Telus.
This doesn't make sense to me why T-Mobile would do this. The 850/1900 bands are really only used in North America on competing carriers, so it doesn't give the phone "world" capabilities, the 2100 band does that. Why they would add a feature who's only purpose is to make the phone work on competitors' networks is a mystery to me but Engadget seems to have a picture that confirms it. If this is true than an unlocked Vibrant should technically be able to work on Rogers/Bell/Telus/Fido/Virgin 3g, but only if it is unlocked. I'm pretty sure that T-Mobile sells their phones SIM locked to their network, have you unlocked yours?
~Edit if it does have 1900 as the third band the above posters are correct in that you will get minimal 3g coverage as 850 is the primary in Canada.
yeah i wanted to switch to Wind Mobile for the $35 true unlimited data plan, until i found out they don't work with normal 850/1900/2100 phones
only 1700 / 2100
Multiple times ive looked up this phone in the past. Multiple times my dreams have been shut down because the frequency bands arent the same as Telus Canada. Multiple times have people told me, no, its impossible, wont happen. Then how come both the Windows Phone 7 and the dell venue pro site both have 1900/850 MHz EDGE? i realise EDGE isnt the fastest bug around but its much faster than GSM and its still is by definition 3G. and i was led under the impression that only GSM would work.
So what im wondering is that, ive heard that a new model for US is coming out in January, would the GSM/EDGE frequency be the same, just with 850/1900 UMTS difference?
And basically all i would be waiting for is a bamp from 3G to 3G+?
Telus 3G+
Telus in Nova Scotia HSPA+ network runs on 1900/850 (PCS/CLR). Its probably the same frequencies across the country.
I'm a new user, so I can't post links yet... however if you look at the telus mobility page and go to the Coverage tab, it'll tell you that they use 1900/850 for their 3G+
the wikipedia article on UMTS frequency bands also says telus uses 1900 and 850.
HSPA+ is part of the UMTS family. The Venue Pro lists UMTS 1900 and 850 as bands it can get... I'm assuming that means it can handle HSPA+
I'm just making assumptions, but it seems like the Venue Pro will run the HSPA+ network on Telus/Bell in Canada.
I sure hope it can, because I want a venue pro on telus myself!
Dont make a mistake, EDGE is NOT 3G and the frequencies the DVP uses for 3G, 900/1700/2100 will not give you 3G on the 850/1900 frequencies, that is for EDGE only.
efjay said:
Dont make a mistake, EDGE is NOT 3G and the frequencies the DVP uses for 3G, 900/1700/2100 will not give you 3G on the 850/1900 frequencies, that is for EDGE only.
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That is correct.
Only 3 providers in Canada will enable you to get 3G with the Dell Venue Pro.
Those providers are Wind Mobile, Videotron and Mobilicity.
The phone supports AWS 1700, not UMTS 850 or 1900.
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The phone supports AWS 1700, not UMTS 850 or 1900.
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Ah! you're right. I looked at the phone specs again, and it listed GSM 1900, not UMTS 1900
well... that put a serious damper on my fun ... I really wanted one, but not if it can only do 2G around where I live.
Now to see what bands the omnia7 supports... I hope I don't have to settle for one of the ****ty phones released in canada. Seriously, we got all the worst ones.
Iv been waiting on the dell venue pro seeing to it was the only Decent phone that would work here Where i live at&t Alaska. now im screwed. Seriously, WE get all the worst phones here. sucks seeing all the High end phones pass you buy why everyone enjoys them WAAAAAAAAAaaaaAAA ! Best phone I believe i can own as of right now is LG EXPO its nice btw . I know u can get that in Canada
So this is from the xiaomi.com website:
Network
Network standard WCDMA / GSM
Network frequency 2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 850,1900,2100 MHz
Data services GPRS / EDGE / HSPA +
Wikipedia says that T-Mobile runs on 850, 1900, and 2100 MHz. Does that mean that if I get a Xiaomi M1 and run it on T-Mobile, I can get 3G?
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So this is from the xiaomi.com website:
Network
Network standard WCDMA / GSM
Network frequency 2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 850,1900,2100 MHz
Data services GPRS / EDGE / HSPA +
Wikipedia says that T-Mobile runs on 850, 1900, and 2100 MHz. Does that mean that if I get a Xiaomi M1 and run it on T-Mobile, I can get 3G?
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T-Mobile runs on AWS(1700)/2100, and you need both for 3G.
So no, you wouldn't get 3G.
AT&T runs on 850/1900, so you would get 3G with them.
Darn, I was really looking forward to the new $30 plans.
Lol I have the $25 grandfather plan with tmo unlimited
Hey!
Is it possible to change or unlock the UMTS 900MHz frequency in Samsung Rugby Smart?
Frequencies and Data Type
GSM: Quadband:850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS: Triband: 850/1900/2100MHz HSPA+ 14.4 MBps
I live in Finland and needed frequency is 900MHz / 2100MHz in UMTS
GSM should work fine?
So it should be fine for calling, but internet is a bit slow maybe?