Hey guys! I'm a new user on this forum and I also a completely new android user, I have just gotten the HTC Desire HD. And I'm really really enjoying the OS. The way you can customize the OS is amazing! And Therefore I feel like I have been missing out for a while.
However there is one single problem about the HTC Desire HD and sadly it's a pretty big problem. (You guessed it,) the battery life. I'm not gonna lie, if i cut some features i can easily get through a whole day. But whats the point of buying a phone with lot's of features if you can't use them, and whats the point of having a 4.3" screen if you can't have the brightness level at 50+.
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HTC have already made updated batteries that have a much higher capacity than the original batteries, these are for some of their other products.
(just look at the higher capacity HD2 batteries by HTC, they have a higher capacity than the original HD2 batteries.)
That's why i suggest that we all contact HTC and let them know that we are both aware and annoyed by the horrible battery. And then request a better and improved battery for the Desire HD.
If you look at their updates, they have a pretty good history of listening to their customers.
And if their customer service department get about 300 requests in one single day I am absolutely sure that we will see a result in a month or maybe even faster.
I live in Denmark myself and I've seen a similar thread in
a Danish forum and in two days time we have had 183 people send mails to the Scandinavian HTC customer service.
Now there is only about 2000 active users on that forum so that's pretty good for two days. And with such a huge success in a Danish forum, I'm sure a big forum like this would do even better!
So if you have the time to write a little email to the HTC customer service telling them about the poor battery life and then make a request for a better battery, I (and probably every DHD user) would appreciate it.
And even if you are one of those lucky users that can go for days without charging while having standard settings,helping us wouldn't hurt.
Thanks in Advance
Well....although I do get your point, I am not sure that I, and probably other people as well, agree entirely on the 'horrible' battery life.
Yes, at first, it does look to have poor capacity when you get your DHD out of the box.
But remember, a lot of people, if not allm are using their new toy a lot the first couple of days.
If you browse this forum and the DHD topics you'll see that people report a lot better battery life after a couple of charges.
In addition to this, when you get into rooting and flashing, you'll see that users with custom roms, custom kernels and special profiles setup in Setcpu (like less Mhz usage when the screen is off) actually even get better battery life out if their DHD....
In essence, from what I have read, most people are able to use their DHD for one day without charging, which in my opinion, is quite acceptable, considering the size of the screen, the speed of the device and the possibilities and syncing going on....
If I sometimes read other cells'threads, it appears to me that the battery life on the DHD is not that far off, or even is better, than other top devices....
Having said that.....the effort you take I understand for sure, I just am not sure that HTC will do anything about it (as I think what we get is what we should expect)...
Where is the solution in that? Infact there is no solution its how it is
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DHD battery life sucks.
There is no point defending it. Its a bloody mobile phone, it supposed to be able to work out of box, not a science project that u have to spend days tweaking it in order to last a day without the bloody adapter!
u can tell i m really crossed with DHD battery life...
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It does work out of the box. Did yours not turn on?
If you mean 'it's supposed to have the best possible life the first time I fully charge it on day one' then, no it's not. You are wrong.
I just don't get it this was my first proper Android phone after coming from a HD2 and an iPhone 4 and the battery life is on par with both out of the box however simply reducing the time some apps sync I mean can you really not wait the 2 sec ish Twitter etc take to update? Really does improve battery life I have my screen set to 30% brightness which is more than enough if not you need specsavers not a new battery.
At a push I can get 2 days out of my DHD and I would say I'm a average to heavy user about 30 min calls 50 odd text and a couple of hours playing games surfing the net
Gadget show last night drained an iPhone 4 from full charge to flat in 2 hours using the layer app
I don't use setcpu etc I've just used some common sense.
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It does work out of the box. Did yours not turn on?
If you mean 'it's supposed to have the best possible life the first time I fully charge it on day one' then, no it's not. You are wrong.
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well, i charged mine overnight, leave home at 7, phone dead most days by 5pm. u can defend the battery life as much as you want, and i m glad u like yours. less than 12hr of standard use makes any smartphone useless in my view.
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Gadget show last night drained an iPhone 4 from full charge to flat in 2 hours using the layer app
I don't use setcpu etc I've just used some common sense.
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I use iphone4 along side my DHD, almost identical setup in terms of sync and updates. when my DHD battery flat out in the afternoon, iphone4 has typically over 80% left.
I dont think it takes a rocket scientist to see DHD's battery is an issue.
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less than 12hr of standard use makes any smartphone useless in my view.
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Yeah, I would agree.
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well, i charged mine overnight, leave home at 7, phone dead most days by 5pm. u can defend the battery life as much as you want, and i m glad u like yours. less than 12hr of standard use makes any smartphone useless in my view.
I use iphone4 along side my DHD, almost identical setup in terms of sync and updates. when my DHD battery flat out in the afternoon, iphone4 has typically over 80% left.
I dont think it takes a rocket scientist to see DHD's battery is an issue.
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Unplug mine from charging about midnight, get home from work between 18.30 and 20.30 and most nights I have approx 30-40% battery left, LiOn batteries need multiple charge / discharge cycles to get the best out of them so no phone is gonna be at it's best outta the box.
There seems to be massive difference in peoples experience with there DHD mine defo lasts as long as the iPhone 4 I had how yours can last less than 20% there must be something wrong
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mine actually died last night (the first night i had it) i was a little surprised but i checked the battery usage and com.zxing..... used like 70%
lol it seems the barcode scanner didn't close and kept the camera on all night
I am a heavy user Facebook sync every hour a hundred odd texts a day few hours of internet browsing and I can get more than 12 hours mainly like 15 hours unplug at 7.30am and charge it 12.30am
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it seems that some people have a very good battery life even with heavy use,and some don't. I am new to android having come from windows mobile. In winmo devices,the radio version on the device can make a difference to the battery life on similiar devices.maybe this is the same case on DHD because I noticed there are several version of stock roms with different built of radio image.
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it seems that some people have a very good battery life even with heavy use,and some don't. I am new to android having come from windows mobile. In winmo devices,the radio version on the device can make a difference to the battery life on similiar devices.maybe this is the same case on DHD because I noticed there are several version of stock roms with different built of radio image.
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There isn't really a benchmark for "heavy user". I reckon its largely due to different interpretations. Throw the difference in batteries that are likely to exist due to the manufacturing process, and you'd get varying reported results.
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why do people complaint so much about battery life of DHD and other smartphone. when you look at their capabilities, you wouldn't switch your laptop on an expect it to last all day. cause its a smartphone doesn't mean it can do everything for you!
if the battery really bad, then the is a fault i.e faulty battery,app which is eating up resources, radio constantly changing from 2g to 3g which i think one of the biggest drain on battery or a set up which just going to drain battery faster etc etc. These phone when "out of the box" are set up to show the phone off, so yes its going to have it all sing and dancing at you! with everything switched on why you taylor the setting to meet your needs. please don't come back and say "but yes why have i got a smartphone and then i have to switch off all these features" you don't but don't expect it to last all day.
sorry about the rant but i think some people just have unrealistic expectations how long a smartphone can last. people who complain that the phone cant last 24hrs, why would you want it to last that long?. you telling me you don't sleep in that period of time if you want a phone to last 2 days get a nokia 8950! an if your a person who uses it as a business phone, come on what do you expect? your a heavy user. use some sense, have it so you can charge on the go or a get a nokia 8950 as your business phone, an use your smartphone as your own phone.
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why do people complaint so much about battery life of DHD and other smartphone. when you look at their capabilities, you wouldn't switch your laptop on an expect it to last all day. cause its a smartphone doesn't mean it can do everything for you!
if the battery really bad, then the is a fault i.e faulty battery,app which is eating up resources, radio constantly changing from 2g to 3g which i think one of the biggest drain on battery or a set up which just going to drain battery faster etc etc. These phone when "out of the box" are set up to show the phone off, so yes its going to have it all sing and dancing at you! with everything switched on why you taylor the setting to meet your needs. please don't come back and say "but yes why have i got a smartphone and then i have to switch off all these features" you don't but don't expect it to last all day.
sorry about the rant but i think some people just have unrealistic expectations how long a smartphone can last. people who complain that the phone cant last 24hrs, why would you want it to last that long?. you telling me you don't sleep in that period of time if you want a phone to last 2 days get a nokia 8950! an if your a person who uses it as a business phone, come on what do you expect? your a heavy user. use some sense, have it so you can charge on the go or a get a nokia 8950 as your business phone, an use your smartphone as your own phone.
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True, but i honestly cant see why it would hurt to encourage HTC to make a new battery with higher capacity as a part of their accessory lineup for the Desire HD.
sorry yeah i do agree with you, that HTC sould bring out a higher capactiy battery and don't understand why HTC have not used a higher capactiy battery in first place. ive also have a X10(1500mAh) and BB storm2(1400mAh) both have higher capactiy, and X10 is the worst for battery life out of the 3 phones and DHD beats both these phone on battery life.
HTC have the reasons why they used that size battery for the DHD and if they do bring out a higher capactiy at least you can believe the claims of it being a 1800mAh, were these 3rd party batteries claim 1800mAh but really you only getting 1400mAh.
i was not aiming this rant at you, an im sorry, its to people that complain about battery life of todays smartphone and there expections of them.
Test it! You must not use more Power per Hour than 1%.If you are at 4% you do something wrong. In standby of course...
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walda said:
Test it! You must not use more Power per Hour than 1%.If you are at 4% you do something wrong. In standby of course...
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How would you test it?
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Test it! You must not use more Power per Hour than 1%.If you are at 4% you do something wrong. In standby of course...
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Mine is using about 4 an hour. But I figure that's cos I rarely properly exit apps.
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I got 48 hours of battery life this past weekend (2 full days) after reworking my phone on Friday. I actually got 24 hours of battery life one day, when I first flashed the phone a couple of weeks ago, with Light / Moderate use. I am running the Bonsai4All ROM. I had been running it previously but had flashed back to stock due to an issue with Wifi, that I thought might be related to this ROM. After further research I found the Wifi issue was NOT related so I decided, since I liked Bonzai so well, to re-flash and keep it.
Here's what I did:
* From Odin I flashed to the stock ROM.
* I flashed to DK28 via Odin.
* I loaded Bonzai4All_Leafless.zip, ext4-format_njournal.zip and kernel-EXT4-RFS-Bonzai.zip files to my sdcard.
* I rooted my phone using the OneClickRootCWM3.zip.
* Restarted my phone in Recovery Mode to update CWM to ext4.
* Flashed Bonzai ROM and started phone.
* Installed my apps.
* Restarted my phone in Recovery Mode and ran Reboot Recovery to get to CW 2.5
* Flashed ext4-format.
* Flashed Bonzai4All.
* Flashed Kernel-EXT4
* Restarted phone.
At this point I had a clean install and all apps re-installed via Google. Then I turned the phone off and fully charged my battery. I Bump-charged the battery 6 times (6X) to get a full charge (something I found in another post). Before I turned the phone on I booted into Recovery and Wiped the Battery Stats. I restarted the phone and followed these steps (also something I had found in another post in the forums regarding battery life).
* Turned off bluetooth when not in use.
* Turned off GPS when I didn't need it.
* Turned screen brightness to automatic
* Turned off 4G receiver since I was out of 4G coverage area this weekend.
* Turned off synchronization. Only enabled it throughout the day to sync.
* Left Wifi on as much as possible since I was in an area with wifi all the time.
* Toggled Airplane mode after I rebooted the phone. (the post stated it was a "stupid bug")
* Killed the OmaDrmConfigService process via Settings > Applications > Running Services.
The phone was used lightly over the weekend. I used Bluetooth when making calls and only syncing about four times a day. I also did a few text messages. I fully charged my phone yesterday and am using it more to see what the battery life is with Moderate use. At this point it has been unplugged for 20 hours and still has 64 percent charge.
I took pictures via Shoot Me every 12 hours. These pictures are real, they have not been tampered with. Don't know what anyone elses results have been but here are mine.
Ehh..With light to moderate use thats not too impressive; btw..the "bump" charging isn't good for your battery. Theres a reason why it doesn't fully charge; because it's not good for the health of the battery.
Sorry to burst your bubble man ^-^ I've gotten 36hrs on moderate/heavy usage.
OP, Did you change your Wi-Fi advanced settings to "never sleep"?
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Ehh..With light to moderate use thats not too impressive; btw..the "bump" charging isn't good for your battery. Theres a reason why it doesn't fully charge; because it's not good for the health of the battery.
Sorry to burst your bubble man ^-^ I've gotten 36hrs on moderate/heavy usage.
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That's why I posted this...wanted to know what others were getting from the battery. I'm aware of the bump charge issue and this is a one-time thing for me...don't have money to replace it...hehe.
What are you doing to get 36 hrs?
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OP, Did you change your Wi-Fi advanced settings to "never sleep"?
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Yes, my wifi is set to "never sleep"
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That's why I posted this...wanted to know what others were getting from the battery. I'm aware of the bump charge issue and this is a one-time thing for me...don't have money to replace it...hehe.
What are you doing to get 36 hrs?
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Everyone should just get an extended battery and not worry about battery life anymore. I run everything at their optimal settings and the phone lasts forever anyway. Brightness at max all the time, no juicedefender or any of that nonsense. Its awesome. You can leave GPS on contantly. Who cares, you got plenty of battery. And if you absolutely need the battery to last you can just tone down some things and make it last for days. Longest I have gone is:
but I hate running my phone like that.
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Everyone should just get an extended battery and not worry about battery life.
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Where did you get yours? I've been looking online but don't want to ge burned.
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Where did you get yours? I've been looking online but don't want to ge burned.
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I bought the 3500mah one from ebay. They go for like 12 dollars now. They are not actually 3500mah, but they certainly give a giant boost over stock. They are probably around 2600-3000mah realistically. I have a review in the accessories section. The name brand batteries might be better, but no one has done a objective test comparing them yet and for the price its hard to beat the generic ones from China. People are very satisfied with the Yoobao 2800 mah batteries as well, and those go for around 20ish dollars shipped on ebay. Both are the same thickness and add a little bulk to the phone but you get used to it almost immediately.
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Where did you get yours? I've been looking online but don't want to ge burned.
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google this: Seidio Innocell. they have a 3300 mAH battery and i believe they might have a 3500 mAH one as well. so far ive seen nothing but the best reviews for this brand on newegg, amazon, as well as anroid central. theyre a bit pricey, but im not going to let that stop me from using my phone fully without fear of being too far from an outlet
Save your money and buy the generics. All battery manufacturers blatantly lie about their mah ratings, Seidio included. The only mah ratings that are genuine are from OEM batteries. That Seidio 3300 mah will really be around 2700mah. The criminals even have the balls to charge 6 dollars extra for the cheapest shipping after making you pay $75 for the battery. Buy the 12 dollar generic 3500mah on ebay which at a minimum will get you 2400mah real life or go for the 2800mah Yoobao which will probably get you around the same for $20ish. The generics blatantly lie on their ratings while manufacturers like Seidio and Mugen cheat on their ratings. Either way, you don't get the battery you paid for and at least with the generics you pay 7 times less.
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I have no idea how long my battery lasts and frankly don't care as I have 4 of them. Just for the record the OP's method of installing Bonsai! is a waste of time IMHO.
Wow guys...
OP I just wanted to say thanks for posting the steps you took.. Not everyone is going to agree on the best way to do things. but it is good to see all the different options and opinions..
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Everyone should just get an extended battery and not worry about battery life anymore. I run everything at their optimal settings and the phone lasts forever anyway. Brightness at max all the time, no juicedefender or any of that nonsense. Its awesome. You can leave GPS on contantly. Who cares, you got plenty of battery. And if you absolutely need the battery to last you can just tone down some things and make it last for days. Longest I have gone is:
but I hate running my phone like that.
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I have had similar luck... But I usually just run the phone all out anyway... Listening to pandora now just because I'm sick of my normal collection... I have another battery I can throw in when this one dies today... And rest assured it will
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I have had similar luck... But I usually just run the phone all out anyway... Listening to pandora now just because I'm sick of my normal collection... I have another battery I can throw in when this one dies today... And rest assured it will
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Same. I can't wait until the 2.2 source is leaked. Gonna have my phone overclocked and set for Performance in SetCPU, screen brightness on high, etc, while still having enough battery for a day.
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Top Nurse: This was done before they released the new version.
muyoso: I ordered a two-pack generic 3500mAh with charger last night ($26). Again, I had been looking at them but wanted to hear from someone who had used them. In regards to your last reply, I also had my phone overclocked and set for Performance in SetCPU, screen brightness on high, etc, the first time I flashed Bonzai...got 6 and a half hours of battery life and only made ONE phone call...LOL! I've had almost 30 hours of battery life with moderate / heavy use after I posted the original thread, so I've been pretty happy. I'm looking forward to the extended battery.
Thanks to all for the input.
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Save your money and buy the generics. All battery manufacturers blatantly lie about their mah ratings, Seidio included. The only mah ratings that are genuine are from OEM batteries. That Seidio 3300 mah will really be around 2700mah. The criminals even have the balls to charge 6 dollars extra for the cheapest shipping after making you pay $75 for the battery. Buy the 12 dollar generic 3500mah on ebay which at a minimum will get you 2400mah real life or go for the 2800mah Yoobao which will probably get you around the same for $20ish. The generics blatantly lie on their ratings while manufacturers like Seidio and Mugen cheat on their ratings. Either way, you don't get the battery you paid for and at least with the generics you pay 7 times less.
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I didn't know that to be honest. I was given the impression that a lot of the generic brands seem to have a shorter life even with comparable mAH ratings. I also read amazing reviews for this specific brand even on here. I'm not a fan-boy or anything, but I've been trying to find a decent extended battery for my epic as well. However, I cant go out and spend my hard earned moneys without doing some research and so far ive read that this is one of the top brands. But now after reading your post im not so sure about what to do :/
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I didn't know that to be honest. I was given the impression that a lot of the generic brands seem to have a shorter life even with comparable mAH ratings. I also read amazing reviews for this specific brand even on here. I'm not a fan-boy or anything, but I've been trying to find a decent extended battery for my epic as well. However, I cant go out and spend my hard earned moneys without doing some research and so far ive read that this is one of the top brands. But now after reading your post im not so sure about what to do :/
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The reasons to buy the Seidio is that you know you are going to get a perfectly functioning battery and that the battery might last longer than generics.
The reason to buy generics are that they are cheap as hell, but you may get a dud apparently, according to a couple people in my accessories thread, and might have to exchange it with the seller.
Either way, no battery other than an OEM battery will be at the rated capacity. I dont know how they are able to claim mah ratings that their batteries simply cannot reach. I mean, I know how the generics can do it, they are based in China and they can claim anything they want without retribution.
I recommend saving your money and getting a generic or even a Yoobao branded battery, because even if it does lose the ability to hold capacity 50% sooner than the Seidio would, you can just buy another 5 and still have paid less money than the name brand one.
I got 38 hours earlier with 3 hours and 42 minutes before i decided to plug it in at 9 percent
I'm on stock dk28
I don't have 3g on because in my house I'm by wifi, outside I'm blanketed in 4g and I noticed that since I took 3g off, my cell standby doesn't even show up in the battery percentage usage so I'm guessing that added to my battery life lol
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* Turned screen brightness to automatic
* Turned off 4G receiver since I was out of 4G coverage area this weekend.
* Turned off synchronization. Only enabled it throughout the day to sync.
* Left Wifi on as much as possible since I was in an area with wifi all the time.
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These 4 are probably the biggest drivers. I've gotten nearly 36 hours out of the phone before with light use.
The constantly waking to sync is a large drain in Android.
Also, I notice the WiFi radio in this phone practically sips power. The 3G radio, on the other hand, tanks the phone like no other, moreso than other phones (and all the reviews seem to confirm this by the talk time comparisons).
That and using the display in auto brightness. The display sucks down quite a bit, despite Samsung's claims to its power efficiency.
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These 4 are probably the biggest drivers. I've gotten nearly 36 hours out of the phone before with light use.
The constantly waking to sync is a large drain in Android.
Also, I notice the WiFi radio in this phone practically sips power. The 3G radio, on the other hand, tanks the phone like no other, moreso than other phones (and all the reviews seem to confirm this by the talk time comparisons).
That and using the display in auto brightness. The display sucks down quite a bit, despite Samsung's claims to its power efficiency.
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See my post above
I got those results with the brightness set to manual (usually I have it at 50-70ish%, putting it up to 100 when watching videos and viewing pics) and the auto sync on
I think it has to do with certain kernals and stuff? Idk but I don't think its worth gimping th features that make it a "smartphone"...
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I just submitted the following letter to HTC's Customer Service:
"Phone = Telus Desire HD. I've been using my new Desire HD for awhile now but have come to conclude it has one major design flaw. If I don't cripple half of its options/features before leaving the house the battery has trouble making it through the day. Once half the features are crippled what's the point of having a smart phone? Please tell me HTC is in the process of designing/producing an upgraded battery? I have no issues with spending additional money to utilize my device to it's full potential, although I am alarmed R&D did not resolve this before launch. HTC did not make the battery cover replaceable nor did they add a little depth to the phone to allow a larger battery. Unless HTC can refine their battery design are all their current Desire HD customers forced to use their phone with reserve? It saddens me that I can't even recommend this phone to a friend because of the atroshish battery life. Lastly when I purchased this phone I did so because of HTC's reputation. I neglected to read current reviews prior to my purchase knowing that it was a flagship phone for HTC. After purchasing it I started browsing reviews and found only one common theme that never deviated. The Desire HD has a dismal battery life. What if anything does HTC plan to do about this??"
Yes guys I know that recent rom development has done leaps and bounds to improve battery life, and there are plenty of ways to extend it but the bottom line is HTC released this and knows that everyone has the same issue. They should come up with some course of resolve. If they found a way to refine the battery vastly extending its life this phone would be untouchable. I hope more users write to HTC and complain. It only takes minutes but as customers our voices should be heard.
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I just submitted the following letter to HTC's Customer Service:
"Phone = Telus Desire HD. I've been using my new Desire HD for awhile now but have come to conclude it has one major design flaw. If I don't cripple half of its options/features before leaving the house the battery has trouble making it through the day. Once half the features are crippled what's the point of having a smart phone? Please tell me HTC is in the process of designing/producing an upgraded battery? I have no issues with spending additional money to utilize my device to it's full potential, although I am alarmed R&D did not resolve this before launch. HTC did not make the battery cover replaceable nor did they add a little depth to the phone to allow a larger battery. Unless HTC can refine their battery design are all their current Desire HD customers forced to use their phone with reserve? It saddens me that I can't even recommend this phone to a friend because of the atroshish battery life. Lastly when I purchased this phone I did so because of HTC's reputation. I neglected to read current reviews prior to my purchase knowing that it was a flagship phone for HTC. After purchasing it I started browsing reviews and found only one common theme that never deviated. The Desire HD has a dismal battery life. What if anything does HTC plan to do about this??"
Yes guys I know that recent rom development has done leaps and bounds to improve battery life, and there are plenty of ways to extend it but the bottom line is HTC released this and knows that everyone has the same issue. They should come up with some course of resolve. If they found a way to refine the battery vastly extending its life this phone would be untouchable. I hope more users write to HTC and complain. It only takes minutes but as customers our voices should be heard.
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I will do the same HTC India as well
Great News
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I will do the same HTC India as well
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Glad to hear it, I hope more follow suit. The way I see it is the XDA forums in the Desire HD section gets an astonishing number of hits. If even 1 out of every 500 people that just read the Desire HD threads write a complaint in regards to a battery it will have a swift impact on a battery upgrade option for the desire hd.
Unfortunately I think this is the HTC policy. They never build a perfect phone; think about the HTC Desire and the Nexus One: they're legendary devices but they had multitouch (and weak reception on N1) issues. The HTC HD2 probably was the best phone they ever made, but it had a tiny 1320 mAh battery and Windows Mobile 6.5. Other phones had issues like camera, WiFi performances, etc... And now our DHD: no S-Amoled ( = more energy required to keep the huge screen on), a low capacity battery and a sub-par GPS.
I think this is their strategy to make sure ppl will keep buying their new phones. You get it, you recognize it has plenty of great features and most things work just as expected (unlike other manufacturer like Samsung, Motorola), you get a lot of software updates... But you have one or more issues which will let you consider to upgrade to their new models.
Just my 2¢... I'd love if HTC should announce a 1500/1600 mAh extended battery tho
Scarey to think about eh?
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Unfortunately I think this is the HTC policy. They never build a perfect phone; think about the HTC Desire and the Nexus One: they're legendary devices but they had multitouch (and weak reception on N1) issues. The HTC HD2 probably was the best phone they ever made, but it had a tiny 1320 mAh battery and Windows Mobile 6.5. Other phones had issues like camera, WiFi performances, etc... And now our DHD: no S-Amoled ( = more energy required to keep the huge screen on), a low capacity battery and a sub-par GPS.
I think this is their strategy to make sure ppl will keep buying their new phones. You get it, you recognize it has plenty of great features and most things work just as expected (unlike other manufacturer like Samsung, Motorola), you get a lot of software updates... But you have one or more issues which will let you consider to upgrade to their new models.
Just my 2¢... I'd love if HTC should announce a 1500/1600 mAh extended battery tho
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Never quite looked at it that way but maybe it is a HTC conspiracy. Give them just enough to keep them coming back. Regardless I hope you voice you concern to HTC too and maybe we'll see that 1500/1600 mAh battery in the near future.
You won't see it for a couple of reasons.
The Desire hd is near end if life in terms of being a flagship, and the technology simply doesn't exist to increase battery cell density further. The only way would be a physically larger battery which is impossible given the design of the dhd.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.
I don't know why people complain about the battery life. It is fine for me. And it is a smart phone, what are you going to expect, 2 days of battery???
I easily get a day out of it without any problems. Display is 20%, Wifi on, 3g on, sync on... I say the screen is on for around 1 to 1 and a half hours.
No offense, but I seriously hope you wrong!
dr.m0x said:
You won't see it for a couple of reasons.
The Desire hd is near end if life in terms of being a flagship, and the technology simply doesn't exist to increase battery cell density further. The only way would be a physically larger battery which is impossible given the design of the dhd.
Sent from my Desire HD pocket rocket.
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There is no doubt a new flag ship is just around the corner. And yes I've heard the density argument several times, but I'm praying they still have a trick or two up their sleeves that they have yet to reveal. ;0) Besides, it can never hurt to take a shot even when the odds look overwhelming. But hey who knows, when they respond to me they might just admit I'm SOL. We'll see what the future reveals.
Glad you're happy.
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I don't know why people complain about the battery life. It is fine for me. And it is a smart phone, what are you going to expect, 2 days of battery???
I easily get a day out of it without any problems. Display is 20%, Wifi on, 3g on, sync on... I say the screen is on for around 1 to 1 and a half hours.
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A day and a half and I'd be ecstatic. I get a full day too, but refrain from allot of the everyday tasks I'd also like to accomplish. I spend 14-16hrs away from home 5-6days a week. Normally by the time I return home my phone is warning me about 15% battery. Yes I could charge it while in my car, yes I could swap batteries (but I HATE the battery cover), and finally yes I could plug it into an outlet for awhile (abandoning my contact with 99.9% of the world) . To me 1230mAh seems exceptionally low for a smart phone doesn't it? Especially is you design one with such a power hungry screen? There are tons of things I do love about this phone and I mean tons. But in a year if this isn't resolved I'll remember it as the awesome phone that ate batteries. Lastly though all I can say is thank god for all the brilliant developers who are coming up with commendable ways to stretch our battery life further. And shame on HTC for just standing by on the sidelines.
The thing is, I don't think anything can really be done to make a battey big enough. Yes you can buy some 1300mAH - 1600mAH but they tend to be worse then the 1230mAH we have in the DHD. The software can be optimised but the main thing is the screen. To be honest, the DHD had a design flaw, a slot that was not big enough to house a battery that can contain more than 1230mAH. The only way we can go forward is hope that new battery technology comes out soon, but this is around 3-5 years away from current experiments technology from what I have seen...
But also, other phones are in the same situations. All battery of under 2000mAH will be terrible. Phones if you want it to last would need at least 10000mAH in my opinion, and again we are around 3-5 years away from this happening at the earliest for a credible solution..
Hate to say it but complaining will be fruitless as htc already have your money.
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Yes, there is no point complaining because they have no obligation to comply. Even if they really have the technology to provide a better battery, it simply not a viable business strategy to design a new battery for a phone that soon to be replace by next generation of androids. Its not just HTC, every business is like this, they provide a good product, but always reserve better for the next product cycle. Thats why most updated technology usually takes 5-10years to actually reach consumer market.
I don't think the battery of the HTC Desire HD is so bad, I easy get about 1 day and 12 hours with all options on, ofcourse I don't use battery comsuming apps like twitter, I mean if you are so active with a phone then most smartphones will barely make the day.
I think we should be happy that the battery is removeable, just look at the iPhone, the battery is not removeable and to extend the battery life they need use a external battery, no thanks then I rather carry one spare battery with me for just in case I would need it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...nes-could-run-for-months-between-charges.html
That is the technology I head about 6 months ago... now widely reported... this is what will solve our battery problem... Having 1500mAH won't do anything about from extend the life for a few hours.
Too bad we are 3-5 years for it to get anywhere near market consumption
omg
really the battery in the htc desire hd is hopeless....
Well the main power consuming piece of hardware inside our phone is the screen.
Qualcomm have invented a new type of display called the mirasol display, and it uses a lot less power than the traditional LCD. Since HTC and Qualcomm are partners we could be seeing this type of display in future HTC devices.
Source: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-screen-technology-teased-ahead-of-ces-demos/
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I have no issues with spending additional money to utilize my device to it's full potential...
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This obviously doesn't solve the root cause, but if you're willing to spend around 50 USD google for something like "PB-5000 Phone Charger", it's 5000mAh...
my Desire HD has the exact same issue, with only 10-12 hrs maximum with half the features off. i am seriously considering buying the HTC Desire, just for the sake of the battery.
there is a very easy and acceptable solution for this problem. can't they make a charging case or a charging cover or a case holding the 2nd battery being in action for the HTC Desire HD? they have done it for the iPhone. i have mailed so many companies with this idea (including mugen and HTC), however no one replied.
I also have a question: how much does LeeDroid improve the battery issue??? as in how many more hrs does it give me?
Thanks, Best Regards, Android Asim
Trouble? Not so much.....
What kind of services are you running?
I listen to music to and from work, wifi is on all day at work + listen to music and watch a video or two. LiveProfile is on all day as well. I normally don't use Livewallpapers. A charge will last all day for me with this typical usage. Now, If I start rocking "Dungeon Hunter" or some other game or am using GPS then battery goes way down and I have to hit the trickle charge at work ( USB to Computer )
I normally charge overnight.
It is a Smartphone with a huge screen and chip, it's not a MOTO RAZR.
dhiral.v said:
Well the main power consuming piece of hardware inside our phone is the screen.
Qualcomm have invented a new type of display called the mirasol display, and it uses a lot less power than the traditional LCD. Since HTC and Qualcomm are partners we could be seeing this type of display in future HTC devices.
Source: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-screen-technology-teased-ahead-of-ces-demos/
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Sounds pretty good. I like my DHD and all its awesome functions but having to be so careful about battery consumption really is a pain in the ***. The phone's screen is pretty darn nice to look at, but I have it set to 25% brightness just to keep consumption down a bit. Seriously, using the DHD's screen for 4 hours the battery is almost empty.
I'd really have no problem settling with a 'less pretty' screen if it would mean I could use my phone for more than 4 hours a day.
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What kind of services are you running?
I listen to music to and from work, wifi is on all day at work + listen to music and watch a video or two. LiveProfile is on all day as well. I normally don't use Livewallpapers. A charge will last all day for me with this typical usage. Now, If I start rocking "Dungeon Hunter" or some other game or am using GPS then battery goes way down and I have to hit the trickle charge at work ( USB to Computer )
I normally charge overnight.
It is a Smartphone with a huge screen and chip, it's not a MOTO RAZR.
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My typical use during a day:
-Unplug it at around 8:00
-Making calls for about 30 minutes
-Sending ~25 SMS
-Internet for about 2 hours (1 hour wifi and 1 hour 3G/H)
-Listening to music for about 1 hour
-Checking my awesome team in RunFootball ~5 times a day
-Plug it in at around 22:00
At 22:00, the battery is usually down to below 15%. I have GPS, BT, wifi and 3G off unless actively using them. With my screen brightness set at a low 25% the maximum screen time I can get out off my DHD is 4 hours. There are no rogue apps running in the background.
Honestly, a phone with this type of power consumption needs atleast an 1800mAh battery to last me through a day without me worrying about it.
hi everyone
i am going this phone in 2 days but first i wiould like to know something.
First for now i have a samsung galaxy ace, is a very nivce phone but i want more, i want overclock i want differents rooms i want a new kernel so this is what is making me change it.
So have we a new rom for this phone, a finish one and stable, and kernels, what is the best for battery life?
If someone could help with this i would be very greatfull
thanks to all
vlc_marcos said:
hi everyone
i am going this phone in 2 days but first i wiould like to know something.
First for now i have a samsung galaxy ace, is a very nivce phone but i want more, i want overclock i want differents rooms i want a new kernel so this is what is making me change it.
So have we a new rom for this phone, a finish one and stable, and kernels, what is the best for battery life?
If someone could help with this i would be very greatfull
thanks to all
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Hello, and welcome the U8800 group I guess?
Well firstly you shall know that we have lots of different firmware for our phone.
To get access to the new firmwares visit.
http://wiki.modaco.com/index.php/Huawei_Firmware_U8800
If you wish to have user friendly guide, visit.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...om/341011/ultimate-guide-to-the-huawei-u8800/
For custom roms with huge tweaks and optimizations.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...rom-for-the-huawei-u8800-with-online-kitchen/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152240
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068766
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147103
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059753
And to use these roms it's good to have recovery for the phone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130524
Lastly, the battery life is pretty decent for a smartphone, to be correct with the matter. Every smartphone have "bad" battery life against none "smart"phones(dumbphones).
Hope this helps you !
thanks so later i will read something about this
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thanks so later i will read something about this
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If you happy with it hit the funny looking "Thanks" button, makes me happy
i have a question, for what is the thanks button?
vlc_marcos said:
i have a question, for what is the thanks button?
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Nothing much just to say thanks by a meter way.
what rom are you using and why?
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what rom are you using and why?
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I am using, B137 custom rom by Fibblesan from modaco.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...rom-for-the-huawei-u8800-with-online-kitchen/
Reason.
Works flawlessly, can do normal calls,browsing the network, flash works perfectly and no shuttering lastly battery life is great, holds quite long. I would also point out that when questions are asked most help when they can @modaco.
I would say hearing opinion is a small reason to try a rom, biggest would be to experience the rom then see if its really good.
cirnocirno said:
I am using, B137 custom rom by Fibblesan from modaco.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...rom-for-the-huawei-u8800-with-online-kitchen/
Reason.
Works flawlessly, can do normal calls,browsing the network, flash works perfectly and no shuttering lastly battery life is great, holds quite long. I would also point out that when questions are asked most help when they can @modaco.
I would say hearing opinion is a small reason to try a rom, biggest would be to experience the rom then see if its really good.
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Can I ask what you mean by "no shuttering lastly battery life is great, holds quite long" ? How many hours/days? And what sort of usage?
Thanks
katu2006 said:
Can I ask what you mean by "no shuttering lastly battery life is great, holds quite long" ? How many hours/days? And what sort of usage?
Thanks
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With 3g, wifi on and light web browsing I get around 11 hours of usage until next charge. If I do not play around for such long time it can hold for 3 days in sleep doing nothing. But if I do normal activity, which involves, music,web,3g,sms and some calls + games. I will have 20 % left from 08:00 to 23:00 and thats no problem 20% is fine enough for a night sleep, and charge in the morning !
so is like my galaxy ace, form 08:00 to 23:00, i use 70% of the battery, with the sincro on all the time, using my emal like sms, it means that i send a lot during all day, wifi turn on during 8 hours and some games and web.
i still dont have the x5 but iam waitting for it, but i thought that the battery could be longer
vlc_marcos said:
so is like my galaxy ace, form 08:00 to 23:00, i use 70% of the battery, with the sincro on all the time, using my emal like sms, it means that i send a lot during all day, wifi turn on during 8 hours and some games and web.
i still dont have the x5 but iam waitting for it, but i thought that the battery could be longer
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Why would it be longer?
First thing you need to understand, the concept of why smartphone battery sucks. They don't evolve as fast as the smartphones itself. No one seems to wish add more power into their small batteries for the smartphones, thus making it look stupid.
ok i understand and i know, but the software could improve the battery life in some way
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ok i understand and i know, but the software could improve the battery life in some way
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Yeah, software can only make sure a certain amount won't go to waste, for example stopping useless workload.
I don't mean to upset anybody, but I think that battery consumption is 80% related to the hardware and the rest to software. I used to have Wifi, bluetooth, 2 e-mail accounts with push on non stop, on my old Iphone 3G and battery used to hold for at least 2 days. Now, because this battery is 3 years newer, wouldn't you think that there should be improvements? The fact that you get 3 days out of this phone's battery, makes me think that you're lucky...I never got more than 2 days, with all sorts of ROMs, including FLB.
The rule "what you pay is what you get" reflects the reality here, quality hardware makes the difference, simple as that. I like the U8800, but to be able to get more life out of the battery, the quality of hardware needs big improvements.
As an example, the bluetooth on the Iphone use to work in the proximity of my car, but with the U8800 it disconnects while I'm in the car... not to mention the wifi, that's flaky as...I'm not bagging the U8800, for $300 brand new, it's definitely worth buying, but if you want a bit more quality, pay the difference and get the Desire or something.
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I don't mean to upset anybody, but I think that battery consumption is 80% related to the hardware and the rest to software. I used to have Wifi, bluetooth, 2 e-mail accounts with push on non stop, on my old Iphone 3G and battery used to hold for at least 2 days. Now, because this battery is 3 years newer, wouldn't you think that there should be improvements? The fact that you get 3 days out of this phone's battery, makes me think that you're lucky...I never got more than 2 days, with all sorts of ROMs, including FLB.
The rule "what you pay is what you get" reflects the reality here, quality hardware makes the difference, simple as that. I like the U8800, but to be able to get more life out of the battery, the quality of hardware needs big improvements.
As an example, the bluetooth on the Iphone use to work in the proximity of my car, but with the U8800 it disconnects while I'm in the car... not to mention the wifi, that's flaky as...I'm not bagging the U8800, for $300 brand new, it's definitely worth buying, but if you want a bit more quality, pay the difference and get the Desire or something.
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First: No one who needs 3+ day battery should buy a smartphone! If you want a super battery, go to a dumbphone with a xpto 8+ days battery. I my opinion, a smartphone with a 24h battery (wifi on, 3G on, network data on, good brightness, some gps, etc) is the perfect deal. I couldn't 100% test the battery duration of the Huawei because it's still network locked, so I've done any calls and any sms/mms, but with wifi on, auto-sync, FB sync, tweetdeck sync, google account sync, some internet browsing, lots of social network browsing and good brightness, there's now 25h uptime and 32% remaing. Is this bad? I don't think so...
Second: Go ahead, compare a 500€ iPhone to a 150€ Huawei
BTW: It's network locked but I'm using the original SIM and it's working properly. I've done any calls or sms but it's not in flight mode, it's completely operational... Except for the fact that I aint no friends using TMN ahah SO, the battery duration isn't much affected by this fact.
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Second: Go ahead, compare a 500€ iPhone to a 150€ Huawei
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Iphone is more than 3 years old and worth less than $100...Not sure what you're talking about. Or do you still think that Iphone 3g is worth 500??
The topic here was to decide if to buy U8800 or not. If you think that a "smart-phone"s battery should last 24h, then you deserve this phone... I'm thinking, "no go". You can get a whole lot more from a Desire.
In my view, the specification says 370h in standby, with wifi on, you should still get 100h...not 24h.
BTW, can you give me an example of an $300 "dumb-phone" ? )
só tiago, I can see that you are Portuguese, I'm to. so with a lot of using you can get one day of battery, with an extreme use. because for me I will use a lot the email because I use it like sms to.my girl that is out of the country so it should e on all the times. the rest us a normal use with calls something like 2 hours of phone calls.
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Iphone is more than 3 years old and worth less than $100...Not sure what you're talking about. Or do you still think that Iphone 3g is worth 500??
The topic here was to decide if to buy U8800 or not. If you think that a "smart-phone"s battery should last 24h, then you deserve this phone... I'm thinking, "no go". You can get a whole lot more from a Desire.
In my view, the specification says 370h in standby, with wifi on, you should still get 100h...not 24h.
BTW, can you give me an example of an $300 "dumb-phone" ? )
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Sorry, I thought you have the 4G... I take back what I said about 500€ iPhone.
370h only if it's sleeping all the time without data, syncs, wifi, etc... With a full smartphone use, 100h are impossible to get otherwise I think the user is not using it with full capacities... Like I said, with all-day wi-fi, sync, notifications, data transfer, good brightness, some GPS, browsing, sms, calls, etc etc (full smartphone use), get 24h+ battery is very hard... My 2 cents.
$300 dumbphone? A "dumbphone" is a phone for those who don't need a smart one, so I don't see the point of your question... If anyone is thinking on spending $300 on a phone, I doubt a dumbphone will do the needs.
(Sorry for my bad English)
What I meant was that you can't really find dumbphones any more, in less they are $20 or something... Anyway, the whole idea is that I think the battery should hold longer than 24h, with wifi and minimal usage. With this phone, you can barely achieve that...
If the initiator of this thread wants more battery life, he should reconsider.
I swear this thing does nothing when on standby. Screen on time is at just over two hours and yet the stats are amazing. Interestingly I'm on my third one, the other two were NOTHING like this.
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Yeah I noticed that too try using power save ... Seems to have even better standby when that is enabled. Very happy with battery life so far on mine.
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jbarrack said:
Yeah I noticed that too try using power save ... Seems to have even better standby when that is enabled. Very happy with battery life so far on mine.
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So am I. Typically 30 to 40% battery left. With my iphone and SIII, both were dead by the end of the day.
PS. I use the power saver function.
jaaystott said:
I swear this thing does nothing when on standby. Screen on time is at just over two hours and yet the stats are amazing. Interestingly I'm on my third one, the other two were NOTHING like this.
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Couldn't agree more... I am only on the first "One" . But battery life is fantastic compared to my S3. My current stats are showing 54% remaining after 26:25 hours. Estimated remaining time is 33 hours. That's with a little bit of 4G usage and 30 minutes talk time. Total screen time is showing at 1.03 hours.
By this time of the day, with similar usage, by S3 was sitting under 50% and would remain for another 6 hours. I was originally very worried about the non-removable battery, but with performance like this I am no longer worried!
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Interestingly I'm on my third one, the other two were NOTHING like this.
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True. My first One was very disappointing when looking at battery life.
I hope the replacement will not have this problem
Fidelcastrol said:
True. My first One was very disappointing when looking at battery life.
I hope the replacement will not have this problem
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Sadly im one of those that seems to have got a poor battery life after swapping
My 1st unit was AMAZING, just like the screenshot in 1st post, i could go a full day at work with 80%+...now ive got my replacement unit I noticed the difference straight away
In about 30 mins im losing like 10%+ even on standby
My old phone I saw well over 1d 15 hours on battery before i saw it go into abotu 15% battery...win some lose some.
However I am getting another replacement...fingers crossed
The One has the best standby battery life of any phone EVER.
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No offence, but the Xperia Z is better. The One may be good, but it's not the very best.
It has really good battery life considering the 1080 p screen and those dual speakers with boom sound.
Guys please consider the battery to note 2, it is a phablet with a gigantic battery. It somewhat like comparin nexus 7 with HTC one, difference between the n7 and note 2 screen size is only 1.5 inches
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Best standby I have ever seen on a phone is the iphone5 to be honest. But the One definitely isn't far behind.
For me coming from an iPhone 5 and before that iPhone 4 and before that numerous other phones..this HTC one has been the best for battery life by far. I'm averaging battery life of 17 hours according to gsam battery app... I never would have imagined getting battery life like that and I am not on power saving mode. And as for the note 2. I would hope it bas better battery...it's not that much bigger (screen) and it has a 3100mah battery compared to 2300 in the one.
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I'm lucky to get 8 hours. I'm not impressed at all. I had to charge it twice just to able to do some photography.
My recent past phones were an iPhone 5, galaxy s3, and note 2. Only the 5 had worse battery.
I have undervolted, have lte off and It drains fast when the screen is on. Who cares about standby. How does it actually last with use.
the battery has been very inconsistent for me ever since i got the phone a few weeks ago. sometimes i can go the entire day just fine and other times i need to charge by 6 pm. it definitely wouldnt last an extra day if i forgot to charge it before going to bed.
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I'm a developer, you know...
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Ha ha classic
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I don't have any hard evidence but this phone kills my Sensation. I would use about 1 hours of actual usage in a day while the rest of the time is in standby with wifi, and I can get through my 8 hour day with about 60% to 70% left. My sensation would have been near 20%, and I have to charge it if I use it more often. I am really impressed.
Mazzstrikers said:
No idea why you are here, bashing the One. HTC has had a bad reputation for notorious battery life, but the One is clearly solid in this aspect. Do not generalise based on HTC's past phones.Not sure about the Note 2 or S4 but I am darn sure my standby and screen on times beat my friend's S3 for good.
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My One also handily beat my friends' S3 and iPhone 4S as well. I have never used a phone which I didn't worry about the battery near the end of the day - this is the first.
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Erm yup that seems more fair. I also didn't claim One has the best battery life. I mean the term "best" is entirely arbitrary. The best battery life on an android would definitely be the Razr Maxx. It'd probably handle close to twice the standby times on the S4.
So in that case why are you so eager to prove that the S4 is better than the One? I mean if you really feel it's better go ahead and buy one. Point proven.
For me and the other One users here we are VERY satisfied with our battery life, thank you very much.
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I already have one. I am here to present unbiased facts, while some people seem to be blinded by ignorance. As previously stated I was in the market for an additional device for my fiance, and the One came up. Also if you actually read thru the responses from the One users, there is a lot of mixed responses not just praise.
KennyLegend said:
Don't be sorry
U lost 20-25% overnight? U clearly don't understand the basics of wakelocks. Nuff said.
I have the S3 as well as the One and my S3 and my One have approx similar screen on times but the S3 has longer total up-times with similar screen on time. With the H1, u need power saving on ALL the time to get decent battery life.
The S4 will eat up this phone in terms of battery life.
Getting back to my original point, the H1 does NOT have the best battery life ever of any phone.
I think we're done here.
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Ach, no. I'm very familiar with wakelocks. Again, I'm sorry my personal experiences don't meet with your expectations. My One battery life is much better than my S3 in both standby and gaming.
You. Just two more letters.
KennyLegend said:
This thread should be locked. The one is definitely not the best phone for battery. S3 is better and the Note2 is even better again.
Theres already a thread for battery stats.
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KillaHurtz said:
Agreed. I think people are trying to justify having the cheaper phone with meaningless stats. WOW "I had it on powersave all day and got rockin battery !" WOW I had my Note on full brightness for 2 days straight with over 6 hours of screen time. The battery stats on this device are not impressive by any means. The GS4 has this phone beat in every department.
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The OP only mentioned standby time, stop trolling, it's pathetic, especially for a RC
I too agree, it's been unrealistically good on standby. Granted I'm rooted with some bloat removed + Greenify.
Yesterday got 22 hours, 4:33H screen on, 4G on all day, power saver off.
mettleh3d said:
I too agree, it's been unrealistically good on standby. Granted I'm rooted with some bloat removed + Greenify.
Yesterday got 22 hours, 4:33H screen on, 4G on all day, power saver off.
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I use Greenify as well and it makes huge difference. Currently at 3 hours of screen time, with 60% left! Lost only 2% overnight.
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This should really help your screen on time note 20 ultra
7 hours should be the minimum out of the box for a very expensive flagship handset.
I have tweaked pretty much everything and still get around 5.
Emailed Samsung today for a return. Useless handset.
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7 hours should be the minimum out of the box for a very expensive flagship handset.
I have tweaked pretty much everything and still get around 5.
Emailed Samsung today for a return. Useless handset.
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Ever think that maybe you've got a screen time problem? If you're on your phone for 7hrs a day it's time to put the damn device down [emoji1787]
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kkeith said:
Ever think that maybe you've got a screen time problem? If you're on your phone for 7hrs a day it's time to put the damn device down [emoji1787]
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It's not per day, it's per charge. So if you're only a moderate user 7 hours ST should give you a couple of days. My phone boots up at 7am and is dead by early evening.
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It's not per day, it's per charge. So if you're only a moderate user 7 hours ST should give you a couple of days. My phone boots up at 7am and is dead by early evening.
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My phone does 2 days easy if I'm at work. Otherwise, sure I probably have to throw it on the charger around 5ish because I've been facebooking and reading the news, I'd say it's far from useless anyways. And while I'm at work in usually using the Galaxy buds to listen to my podcasts [emoji1745]
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kradcliffe said:
7 hours should be the minimum out of the box for a very expensive flagship handset.
I have tweaked pretty much everything and still get around 5.
Emailed Samsung today for a return. Useless handset.
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It's kind of weird how a lot of people on Exynos versions are getting seriously bad battery life.. The other day I asked my daughter to watch all of her shows and stuff on YouTube on my Note 20 Ultra and asked her not to put it on the charger for any reason because I wanted to see what kind of screen on time I could get and I'm seriously getting close to 15 hours of screen on time and I am posting pictures below so people don't think I'm full of it.. At 24 percent battery life left it said I still had a little over 4 hours left and the total screen on time was 10 hours 37 minutes so if she had stayed awake for another few hours it would have been around 14/15 hours without a single charge!
I stopped worrying about screen on time 3 devices ago. Just use your phone normally as a normal person.
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Brava27 said:
I stopped worrying about screen on time 3 devices ago. Just use your phone normally as a normal person.
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That's easy for you to say but some of us have to work and we can't be near an outlet all the time and we need to know exactly how much time we have available for doing important things.. Also, people who worry about their battery life doesn't make them "abnormal" like you're low key saying (Just use your phone normally as a normal person.")... It's great and all that you don't care about your battery life but this website is for help and other things so if you're not going to offer any solutions or anything of value then maybe you shouldn't say anything!
The main issue is that most of us (some long time Note users) are buing the phone because it is considered a powerhorse phone and advertised with a battery that "lasts a day". Most of us are using it like a normal person, that is one that use the phone in his/her daily tasks from browsing to mails, chats, watching videos or shooting photos or editing documents. Because THAT'S why we bought a Note and not a...dunno iPhone for ex.
And seeing that battery isn't in fact lasting a whole day on a 1300 phone we're "a bit" disappointed (and I was extremely polite saing that)
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That's easy for you to say but some of us have to work and we can't be near an outlet all the time and we need to know exactly how much time we have available for doing important things.. Also, people who worry about their battery life doesn't make them "abnormal" like you're low key saying (Just use your phone normally as a normal person.")... It's great and all that you don't care about your battery life but this website is for help and other things so if you're not going to offer any solutions or anything of value then maybe you shouldn't say anything!
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TL;DR?
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Seems Samsung is catching some heat over it's two chipset variants... again.
They need to stop doing this two chipset crap... Samsung is more fragmented than an old lady's Vista desktop.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/sam...65-plus-exynos-benchmark-performance_id126674
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Ever think that maybe you've got a screen time problem? If you're on your phone for 7hrs a day it's time to put the damn device down [emoji1787]
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Nice move, pay 1300 bucks for a smartphone and don't use because you want it's ****ty battery to last...
Still, the battery drain will destroy your battery, specially on exynos version
If you're on your phone for 7hrs a day and most people average 8hrs at work (obviously you use your phone at work) that leaves you 9hrs plus an hr or 2 (because your using your phone at work a bit) left to get home, cook, eat dinner, cleanup and sleep, I'd say your wasting a lot of your life. At this point the damn batteries have gotten good enough I'd say [emoji1787]
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letus.mors said:
Nice move, pay 1300 bucks for a smartphone and don't use because you want it's ****ty battery to last...
Still, the battery drain will destroy your battery, specially on exynos version
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The Exynos 20 U is far faster than my 10+ with better ram too.
My 10+ was running hotter than the 1 ton deep fryer on the USS Missouri at one point.
It will take some time but you can get it running cool.
Nominal idle current should be about an average of 150-200 ma. Otherwise something(s) is dragging it down.
Get PD MDM and proceed... you will need to develop a good level of proficiency before you see lasting results.
*Bah-ha-ha-ha*, excuse me, I meant to say fun times are ahead
One reason I refuse to migrate to Q is I put some serious time into this system to get it optimized.
This 10+ was a real wanker... sure the 20 U and Q will be "better".