[Q] New ClockworkMod version - G2 and Desire Z General

Hi,
There is a new version for all Desire Z of the clockworkmod, just go into rom manager and the update will prompt.
New things are the possibility of going back using the back key (this was not possible before and it was done by pressing down power button), and the possibility of partition your sd card. But why would you like to partition it? Is there any ROM that supports A2SD already??

Can someone please explain to me what is the point of installing these custom ROM-s, out of which most have some kind of bug's or disadvantages over the perfectly reliable and fully working stock ROM by HTC?
In my point of view, HTC has a massive team of developers and testers for developing their software, so it has a better chance to be more reliable and bug free than any custom ROM developed by a small team of developers, who by no doubt must be great at what they do (respect for devoting their time to advance mobile software) but by numbers alone they have a lesser edge on thinking through all the possible bugs and errors in their code.
What are the main advantages a custom ROM gives you that makes you want to replace your stock with it and risking losing some of your phones functionality..?
Thanks for any insightful answers

If you pick the right rom you will have no bugs at all, and a faster more smooth version of the stock rom.
That is all I will say. You need to try them for yourself to really know what its like, but once you do you will never want to go stock again.

I agree,... ALL custom ROMs I have ever used for long periods of time have been "snappier" than the stock ROMs. Some have better battery life, some allow further customisation than stock.
As Lenny said, give it a bash, if it is not for you then you can always revert back.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Alluuu said:
Can someone please explain to me what is the point of installing these custom ROM-s, out of which most have some kind of bug's or disadvantages over the perfectly reliable and fully working stock ROM by HTC?
In my point of view, HTC has a massive team of developers and testers for developing their software, so it has a better chance to be more reliable and bug free than any custom ROM developed by a small team of developers, who by no doubt must be great at what they do (respect for devoting their time to advance mobile software) but by numbers alone they have a lesser edge on thinking through all the possible bugs and errors in their code.
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Well, what if there's a bug in the current ROM for a function that you use a lot and you want to switch to something else that doesn't have that bug ?
What if you want to use different programs instead of the ones that HTC has picked and built into the ROM ?
What if you want to overclock your phone for extra performance and want that function built in there without any messing around ?
As for the number of people thing, although it might only be a few people actually cooking the ROM, but remember that a *lot* more could be involved in writing the applications in the ROM.
Not meant to be an exhaustive list, but those are just a few reasons why you might want a custom ROM.
This is my first Android phone, previously I was on WinMo, and there the custom ROMs were always hugely better than the stock ROMs (more stable, faster, better functionality, etc).

buzmay said:
Hi,
There is a new version for all Desire Z of the clockworkmod, just go into rom manager and the update will prompt.
New things are the possibility of going back using the back key (this was not possible before and it was done by pressing down power button), and the possibility of partition your sd card. But why would you like to partition it? Is there any ROM that supports A2SD already??
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Sorry but I am a newbie of DesireZ and on the XDA forum as well. A few things want to know about this new clockworkmod :
1) Where can I download this new version?
2) I have already installed ROM Manager but never flashed any ROM so far, so how to install this new version?
3) Can you recommend a good ROM for DZ? My main concern is that I can change the system font size, and the 4 function key below can work (I know some G2 ROM not compatible with DZ, especially the 4 keys below)
4) I have also already ENG S-Off and rooted. So I just need to save the ROM in SD and flash it with the ROM manager?
I thank in advance!

manleyfu said:
Sorry but I am a newbie of DesireZ and on the XDA forum as well. A few things want to know about this new clockworkmod :
1) Where can I download this new version?
2) I have already installed ROM Manager but never flashed any ROM so far, so how to install this new version?
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Go into ROM manager and it will tell you there's a new version of ClockworkMod available. Then you can flash it from the option within ROM Manager (and reboot into recovery if you want to, just to test it).

Related

Reinstallation question

Hi!
I have the strangest question
My phone is reaaallly slow, so I figured I'd do a hard reset and reinstall everything.
My question is, what should I do
Basically I just want the latest version of windows mobile and HD2 updates. To get it really up to date
So can you give me any recommendations on what exactly I should update?
Thanks
The easiest way is probably to flash a custom rom..... one of the newer ones.
Should contain all the freshest updatey goodness and give the speed your looking for.......
Best thing to do is work out which apps you liked and what worked and do a hard reset back to factory spec and only install the apps you like...
After getting the phone most of us install every app that comes along, settling for a few that are essential... Hard resetting and fresh installs will help greatly...
Only go a custom rom if you really know what you are doing and only if you are dedicated to try several to find one that suits you...
argentocruz said:
After getting the phone most of us install every app that comes along, settling for a few that are essential... Hard resetting and fresh installs will help greatly...
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I know I used to do so with my old telephone (TYTN II), but recently I spoke with a friend of mine (he has a HD2 too). He's really into computers etc, and he has the latest roms and everything. He told me that his phone is A LOT faster now.
The only thing is: I have no idea where to start. Just download the latest windows mobile? or should I download the latest HTC HD2 rom? Or both? In what order? Any other updates?
argentocruz said:
Only go a custom rom if you really know what you are doing and only if you are dedicated to try several to find one that suits you...
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I guess i'm lucky then. i settled on the first one i tried but i did have a very lenghtly read of the forums before i picked one to install
pietme said:
I know I used to do so with my old telephone (TYTN II), but recently I spoke with a friend of mine (he has a HD2 too). He's really into computers etc, and he has the latest roms and everything. He told me that his phone is A LOT faster now.
The only thing is: I have no idea where to start. Just download the latest windows mobile? or should I download the latest HTC HD2 rom? Or both? In what order? Any other updates?
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Before i went down the custom rom route i did modify a stock 1.66 rom so i can make a comparison here between as shipped stock, modded stock and custom 6.5.5. I can tell you that 6.5.5 is miles better, faster and if you get a custom rom with a newer version of sense that's even better.
Flashing custom roms has been covered so many times many people are bored of replying but i'll see what i can do in one post.
First you need a copy of HSPL3. Search for it, it will turn up. Don't ask how to install it. All you need to do is run the exe in the file you download.
Then you have a choice. You can either install and updated radio rom (will possibly improve signal and battery life but to find the best one for you and your area may take a couple of flashes and some testing) or just skip straight to the main event. I recommend that all new rom flashers use Energy 23569 standard sense 2.5 because it's fast, pretty lightweight and very close to a HTC stock rom in looks which makes it pretty easy to use. To install follow the instructions in the first couple of posts of the energy rom thread.
I also recommend that you have a look at leocpuspeed V4 and chainfire's 3D driver patch v2 (search for those). Once configured they will greatly improve the performance of the device running any rom you install and it's well worth it.
if you dont wanna go custom rom, i guess you could check see if you have all the latest updates from the HTC site, take it from there, only install apps to the device that need to be on the device such as tweaking apps and install everything else on the sd card, and get your self clean ram or bsb ram sweeper, will reclaim the ram for you from the programs you thought you may have closed but didnt really close.

[Q] where do I start?

Hi guys, I was just about to flash my tab to gain some features and updates and I was about to use RomManager but couldn't find my model of tab on it.
So I started my search and came cross a number of threads that talk about flashing different parts of the firmware.
e.g. making voice calls (I'd love this but i'm with optus australia and they block... )
A kernel flash ..... sounds nice
a filesystem change
all of these sound great and I have been searching but I really don't know what is for general useage in the roms or what is specific to australian roms...
I just don't want to brik my rom....
any help
cheers
Are you willing to flash Euro ROM? I thought JM6 (can't even remember if this was Euro ROM) was the greatest, then JME.
I'm using RichardTrip OC Kernel+ext4 on JMI now and few things are broken: call volume is very small when turning it up pass 75%. If you go back to 75% it's louder LoL. Others mention video laggy. Other also suggest to go all the way to Modaco ROM. Oh, bluetooth is broken as well (when I was running Modaco kernel+JME ROM but Paul mentioned something about because the old ROM so he suggested switch to newer ROM).
If you want to convert to ext4, use Modaco kernel Jan/2x date. It's very easy. Just READ the steps and have good Roto backup to your PC first.
So there you have it. YMMV
quattr0 said:
Are you willing to flash Euro ROM? I thought JM6 (can't even remember if this was Euro ROM) was the greatest, then JME.
I'm using RichardTrip OC Kernel+ext4 on JMI now and few things are broken: call volume is very small when turning it up pass 75%. If you go back to 75% it's louder LoL. Others mention video laggy. Other also suggest to go all the way to Modaco ROM. Oh, bluetooth is broken as well (when I was running Modaco kernel+JME ROM but Paul mentioned something about because the old ROM so he suggested switch to newer ROM).
If you want to convert to ext4, use Modaco kernel Jan/2x date. It's very easy. Just READ the steps and have good Roto backup to your PC first.
So there you have it. YMMV
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Interesting_ well it's at least a place to start got lot's of searching terms now
so are the roms realesed based on performance and features since this is Linux we're talking about, I imagine that a major part of the difference is back-end as opposed to my old HTC trinity which replaced functionality as opposed to doing too much back end enhancements - Is this right? is there a list of features each rom has ?
cheers
It's probably best you go check out the "Developers" section. When someone posts a new ROM they usually give you a list of features.
Try reading the entire thread so that you can see if others are happy with the ROM or what issues they're having. After this, you can make an informed decision on which ROM to flash.
which order do we flash in?
silvatyrant said:
It's probably best you go check out the "Developers" section. When someone posts a new ROM they usually give you a list of features.
Try reading the entire thread so that you can see if others are happy with the ROM or what issues they're having. After this, you can make an informed decision on which ROM to flash.
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yes but what is the next step - what rom do i need? A system rom, A kernel a firmware fix - or rather, so I don't brick the phone what order should these be done in I think that is a better question
I have already rooted the phone , made some symlinks to add functionality so i'm kinda noobish to linux but I can catch on
cheers for any more help
I have also not yet flashed anything, because I don't have a need to as yet. But if I were to flash any ROM it would be the MoDaCo ROM with an OC'd kernel. That seems to be most peoples ROM of choice as it keeps the device looking as stock as possible with a good performance enhanced backend by changing the FS type to ext4 (which is faster than the current FS) and obviously a faster processor speed. CWM is also added for good measure. This allows you to flash certain zImages and have a more robust recovery menu.
Hope that helps.
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Is flashing a custom rom a good deal ?

Hey there,
im pretty happy with my phone, but sometime i feel like its some kinda bad to get apps for evey setting that htc did not provide in 2.2 (2.2.1 not available to me yet). Although i think enough "****" is running systemwise that noone needs.
So flashing to a custom rom seems to be an pretty easy thing if you
do it carefully and check all potential failure actions.
Will custom roms make the phone faster ?
To all that flashed yet: Do you regret it or is it like the best thing you can do ?
Do i lose any important functions of my phone ? Are the roms stable and working good actually ?
Thanks !
mydanny said:
Hey there,
im pretty happy with my phone, but sometime i feel like its some kinda bad to get apps for evey setting that htc did not provide in 2.2 (2.2.1 not available to me yet). Although i think enough "****" is running systemwise that noone needs.
So flashing to a custom rom seems to be an pretty easy thing if you
do it carefully and check all potential failure actions.
Will custom roms make the phone faster ?
To all that flashed yet: Do you regret it or is it like the best thing you can do ?
Do i lose any important functions of my phone ? Are the roms stable and working good actually ?
Thanks !
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Having been running Custom Roms since I had my HTC Magic, I would heartly recommend them to most users, It's all about what you want from your phone though. If you are unhappy with all the bloatware installed and dislike sense it's an ideal way to streamline functionality, your DHD will, in most cases , run smoother than stock and should have at least comparable battery life. Currently I am running CM7 which gives me a stable gingerbread based rom, with a decent custom rom there should be no loss of functionality (even the FM radio works these days).
Custom ROMs are by and large an excellent way to keep your phone up to date whilst taking advantage of new features.
There is a risk of introducing new issues, but the support you get is a million times better than you'd get from the manufacturer, and new updates are usually a couple of times a week rather than a couple of times a year.
The main risk, I find (at least from my Windows Mobile days) is that some ROM developers tend to let things run away from them a bit and end up sandwiching so many new features and launchers and eye candy etc that it ends up slowing the phone down more than the stock ROM did.
So far I've not seen anything like that on recent Android devices, but with older handsets like the Hero there are some custom ROMs that are noticably slower than stock.
As long as you realise that there is a performance limit on your handset that will eventually be breached, then you will have a happy experience with custom ROMs.
Sounds promising. Really.
Im just irritated with the instructions.
My Desire HD is yet rooted.
But there is nothing about S-OFF or Radio OFF mentioned.
I remember most instructions with S-OFF and then Rom Manager or something.
But in this case - Whats the "Wipe" ? Normally means all stuff gets removed ?
Im missing detailled information, especially how installing the rom (via app ?)
and which version i need of my desire hd and more :/
Is this the safest way to flash it ?
And waht the hell means "vendor = ace" ?
Which vendor i "got" ? Im irritated or maybe i translate things bad from eng into ger
ps: guess i got it. htc ace was/is the codename for the desire hd device.
mydanny said:
Sounds promising. Really.
Im just irritated with the instructions.
My Desire HD is yet rooted.
But there is nothing about S-OFF or Radio OFF mentioned.
I remember most instructions with S-OFF and then Rom Manager or something.
But in this case - Whats the "Wipe" ? Normally means all stuff gets removed ?
Im missing detailled information, especially how installing the rom (via app ?)
and which version i need of my desire hd and more :/
Is this the safest way to flash it ?
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In my experience, the easiest way to get ENG S-OFF and Radio S-OFF would be to use jkoljo's excelent tools for S-OFF and Radio S-OFF. Here's a guide to flashing a new radio after you have done Radio S-OFF.
In the Radio S-OFF topic, there's also a small guide for flashing a new rom. If you need a more detailed one, you can find one here.
The next step is to find the rom that suits you the most, for example Android Revolution HD or LeeDroid. Download the ROM you like the most, then follow the aforementioned guide to flash it.
When you go from one rom to another, it's always reccomended to do a full wipe (unless it's just a rom update, then you don't always have to do it). In this case, it means that all your data and settings will be lost, except for the stuff you have on your SD card. You can use your Google-account to back up your apps and contacts and stuff, so do that if you feel you need it.
Hope this helps.
Other handy tools for data backup before migrating to a new rom are MyBackup Pro and of course, Titanium Backup.
Don't forget that contacts, market apps, and wi-fi passwords are synced to your google account by default, so no need for huge app backup files unless you have several apks from other sources..
The guides about S-OFF and Radio flashing posted above are detailed and relatively easy for anyone willing to experiment.
Just make sure that you check the instructions carefully, and double-check whatever you type in adb. The few minutes of making sure you're following instructions to the letter can save you hours of un-needed trouble and aggravation..
Also take note, different custom ROMs often recommend specific radios for maximum compatibility. This can make a significant difference in battery and wireless performance, specially with power hungry devices such as ours.
And above all, try different roms, see what you like best. Running the bleeding edge in Android can be as fun as it can be frustrating, so try to find the best suit for your phone and you, and enjoy it
So alright - I think i got it:
1. Root Device (Visionary)
2. Radio S-Off (Tool)
3. Radio Off (Tool)
4. Download a Radio.img (How can i find out which works best with the crom i want ?)
5. Use radio tool and reboot
6. Find a suitable custom rom
7. install and voila - there we go
Some questions that came up:
- Whats the "best" radio out there ? Is this as important as picking a good C-Rom ?
- HTC Sync preinstalls only means that i got it on my PC already, right ?
- And can all of those steps (except root) kill my device (=brick) or am i safe at the moment when Radio S-OFF and Eng S-OFF worked properly ?
- Nowhere is something about the VERSION i need ? So will a Desire HD 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1 and 2.3 work with all the STEPS ?
Which custom rom is the best for me ? How can i compare all roms out ?
I only heard bout Android Rev HD, LeedDroid and CYMOD.
I want speed and i want a nice User Interface (but i guess i can reach that with ADW.Launcher.EX or Launch-Pro no matter how the Rom looks ?)
Thanks guys for all the answers already !
Would be so thankful if you can finish this with me.
PS: If i "brick" my device is there 100% no chance to unbrick it ?
Was possible with psp 2000 e.g. after some months. think so with desire hd too ?
1. In most cases, the developer of any given rom will reccomend a spesific radio to use with his/hers rom (like with LeeDroid or ARHD). Usually I'd just go for that radio, but as with so many other things in life, your mileage with a spesific radio may vary. While one user might report good signal strength and battery with one radio, another user might say the complete opposite. Anyway, stick to the radio reccomended by the ROM developer. I think that's the safest to do.
2. I've not even used HTC Sync since I bought my Desire HD, and I don't see the need to use it.
3. You're never 100% safe, but in my experience, once you're past the ENG/Radio S-OFF and your new radio is flashed, it's usually smooth sailing from there. But always remember that **** can happen, and you might be unlucky, so if you're unsure of something, read up on the subject as many times as you need for you to feel comfortable doing it.
4. As for what rom is best, that's really up to you I think. I've stuck to ARHD, and I find it fantastic, but you might like LeeDroid or CM7 better. Just look at screen shots, and try to figure out which one is most suited for you. And as you said, with AWD or LauncherPro, and the right wallpaper, any ROM can look beautiful
5. If your device is bricked, I don't know of any method of getting it back to life. All I can think of is send it to HTC, claim that it's dead, and hope for the best.
I flashed my first ROM yesterday just (leedroid 2.2.2). I havent really had much of a chance to explore the real benefits of it, but im already delighted that i did it. Just by being able to add custom themes, fonts and skins to get the phone looking much brighter and colourful. Also nice playing with overclocking the processor.
Took a bit of work to downgrade the software to get root, then a few problems getting s-off etc, but in the end it was all a good learning experience. Certainly dont regret doing it, just sort of regret that i put it off for so long. Looking forward to much playing about with different ROMS and customising them.
Just make sure you read the threads on here about rooting very carefully. And also read very carefull the instructions that come with each ROM. Leedroid recommended a radio that works best with his ROM, so i flashed that. Dont know if others do the same as i havent got round to trying any others yet.
Am i right that only with Radio S-OFF i will be also able to install custom roms,
but NO new radio versions ? Is the problem the compability (with croms) or is there any other reason for new radios than better connection/battery ?
Which users are fine with only Radio S-OFF ?
As i can read, RSPOFF is safer than ENGSOFF.
Also: the question about the VERSION is really making me moving.
Hope someone can explain me, why nowhere is mentioned something about it.
I remember 2.2.1 cant be rooted and 2.3 - so is this the explaination
(cause you cant go over step 1) ? or whats the point ?
mydanny said:
1. Root Device (Visionary)
2. Radio S-Off (Tool)
3. Radio Off (Tool)
4. Download a Radio.img (How can i find out which works best with the crom i want ?)
5. Use radio tool and reboot
6. Find a suitable custom rom
7. install and voila - there we go
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Once you've done Radio S-OFF (not sure what your step 3 is - seems the same as 2) then I'd recommend installing ROM Manager from the Market and ensuring you have either ClockWorkMod 2.5.1.3 (up to Android 2.2) or 3.0.0.6 (android 2.3) installed. This then allows you do do all your Nandroid backups and System wipes that you will need to before you flash a new ROM.
- Whats the "best" radio out there ? Is this as important as picking a good C-Rom ?
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As said, there is technically no "Best" radio - but the dev of a ROM will recommend a decent compatible ROM. You are welcome to try others but you may notice weaker signal or degraded battery life.
- HTC Sync preinstalls only means that i got it on my PC already, right ?
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It's useful for getting the right drivers on your computer - but probably not much else!
- And can all of those steps (except root) kill my device (=brick) or am i safe at the moment when Radio S-OFF and Eng S-OFF worked properly ?
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Not "Safe" but at least much more likely to be able to recover. You can still permanently damage it - but doing so would be pretty hard work!
- Nowhere is something about the VERSION i need ? So will a Desire HD 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1 and 2.3 work with all the STEPS ?
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Generally the steps are the same throughout...though you'd be hard-pressed to find a DHD ROM on 2.1!
Which custom rom is the best for me ? How can i compare all roms out ?
I only heard bout Android Rev HD, LeedDroid and CYMOD.
I want speed and i want a nice User Interface (but i guess i can reach that with ADW.Launcher.EX or Launch-Pro no matter how the Rom looks ?)
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Read their respective threads and see what you like and don't like. That's what everyone else does. No ROM is "better" than the other.
PS: If i "brick" my device is there 100% no chance to unbrick it ?
Was possible with psp 2000 e.g. after some months. think so with desire hd too ?
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Depends how badly bricked it is! (see above)
To add the misstying under 2. or 3.
I meant:
2. Radio S-oFF
3. ENG S-Off.
What is ENG S-OFF in some easy words doing other than Radio ?
As i understood - without ENG S-oFF i cant install custom radio images, right ?
Means: New Roms, but maybe not the best compatible radios ?
Also: When installed Clockwork i can backup everything ?
Means a NANDROID backup i guess ?
I thought when i want to get back, i just need this Ruu Rom and
Set all Tools to S-ON ? So this Nandroid backup, whats that ? "Ruu" is the original rom and the "nandroid backup" is the system-backup/firmware/original radio.img?
Im just ab it irritated with all the words like rom, radio, firmware :/
Im so thankful for all the answers yet.
Never expected such useful answers, most forums full of guys that link
to other threads and do not really care. so until now - great work !
mydanny said:
Am i right that only with Radio S-OFF i will be also able to install custom roms,
but NO new radio versions ? Is the problem the compability (with croms) or is there any other reason for new radios than better connection/battery ?
Which users are fine with only Radio S-OFF ?
As i can read, RSPOFF is safer than ENGSOFF.
Also: the question about the VERSION is really making me moving.
Hope someone can explain me, why nowhere is mentioned something about it.
I remember 2.2.1 cant be rooted and 2.3 - so is this the explaination
(cause you cant go over step 1) ? or whats the point ?
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ENG S-OFF will allow you to flash rom's, Radio s-OFF will allow you to flash radio's as well (ENG S-off fools h-boot into believing it has radio s-off)
Radio S-OFF will not be reverted by flashing a new h-boot unlike ENG S-OFF.
Different rom's suit different people, seen as you are going to loose all your data falshing a custom rom, i would recommend flashing a couple and having a play around (leedroid and Coredroid etc have sense if that rock's your boat, Cyanogenmod is closer to vanilla android) as everyone has a different preference.
The Versioning of ROM's is a bit of a grey area all ROM's are based on an android release 2.1, 2.2.1, or even 2.3 etc but many have features ported to them from other release i.e stuff from 2.3 or even 2.4 may be present in a 2.1 based ROM so look for a rom with the features you desire rather than relying on the base. But some ROM's require different instructions for flashing i.e Gingerbread ROM's require clockwork recovery version 3.x this is due to different file systems used, to be safe make sure to read the first couple of entries in the ROM thread in the development section before flashing as it will list any special requirements or steps that need taking prior to flashing.
ghostofcain said:
ENG S-OFF will allow you to flash rom's, Radio s-OFF will allow you to flash radio's as well (ENG S-off fools h-boot into believing it has radio s-off)
Radio S-OFF will not be reverted by flashing a new h-boot unlike ENG S-OFF.
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Maybe im just reading it wrong, but do you mean that Radio S-OFF has all the features that ENG S-OFF brings PLUS the radio flash option ?
Then why all the instructions say, i need both (ENG and Radio) ?
Generelly, you recommend only ENG S-OFF or will the most good Custom Roms not work that good with the original radio version from htc ?
And Gingerbread Roms need Clockwork 3.X - But Clockwork 3.X needs Desire HD with 2.3, as i got told above.
And i cant upgrad to this by using HTC Updater. I guess, i have to manually upgrade my original Firmware then, right ?
Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)
Radio s-off and eng s-off are 2 different things and you need both if you want to be able to flash a rom.
And yes, I love my custom rom more than I will ever love stock. Why? because it looks like the stock one but it's lightning fast and drains less battery. Oh, and I have better reception
mydanny said:
And Gingerbread Roms need Clockwork 3.X - But Clockwork 3.X needs Desire HD with 2.3, as i got told above.
And i cant upgrad to this by using HTC Updater. I guess, i have to manually upgrade my original Firmware then, right ?
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Gingerbread roms need 3.X, but you don't need Gingerbread to install it. I have CWM 3.0.0.6 but am on a FroYo ROM. All down to my own personal choice!
Also, yes. a Nandroid backup is an exact copy of your ROM (not your radio). So all apps, settings etc will be exactly the same when you restore it. You can't do this without a clockworkmod recovery.
ROM Manager interfaces with CWM and allows you better management of your backups and also gives you an easy way to upgrade your recovery without having to mess around in a terminal emulator or command window.
The relationship between Kernel, Radio (Baseband) and a custom ROM? So in theory, can you mix and match different version and combination, but there seems to be proven combination that works better, is that correct?
Base on what I am reading, they are can contribute to a faster, more stable, and a more battery efficient phone system.
wid0w said:
Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)
Radio s-off and eng s-off are 2 different things and you need both if you want to be able to flash a rom.
And yes, I love my custom rom more than I will ever love stock. Why? because it looks like the stock one but it's lightning fast and drains less battery. Oh, and I have better reception
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Nice Guide. Has everything i need.
Why i need both ?
In case i dont need/want a new radio version and ONLY a new crom,
i dont need the Radio S-OFF. Cause you say i need both ? Why ?
Maybe gimme a short answer to that.
Will be thankful !
wid0w said:
Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)
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For flashing under windows that is, the instructions here, whilst a little more complicated cater for all OS'es
ghostofcain said:
For flashing under windows that is, the instructions here, whilst a little more complicated cater for all OS'es
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Link not working.
Whats that ? Another guide ?
Whats the differ ? Oo

help....hd2

hi guys
pls help me out. i m a new t mobile hd user. have the stock rom. used one week without problem. then phone started to repeatedly get stuck. initially when phone is switched on, the screen wont come on for 15 minutes. but the hard buttons were flashing. this would spontaneously recover. later phone started to get stuck while being used and in standby mode. i thought it could be due to cookie home tab and other software recently installed. so uninstalled all of that, but, no result.
then i accidentally switched to "swype" (i was using the htc keyboard). then it really became mad! needed to soft reset repeatedly. the moment i try to type something ( swype mode is still on. cant switch back to the usual kb, it gets stuck) phone gets stuck, needing soft reset. finallly went for hard reset.
1. is this a known issue with hd2? (somebody told me so)
2. how can i overcome this? would a cooke rom like the energy rom help?
3. whats wrong with swype ????
please, anything to help guys....
Yes if you install a custom ROM especially a Energy ROM you can kiss all that bad behavior good bye, unless you have a hardware problem. But from what you said it sounds like tipicial glitchy stock Windows Mobile bad behavior.
Also to turn off Swype you have to touch on the little triangle arrow beside the keyboard symbol at the bottom of the keyboard. This will bring up a menu box just select to use the standard keyboard and not Swype.
T-Macgnolia said:
Yes if you install a custom ROM especially a Energy ROM you can kiss all that bad behavior good bye, unless you have a hardware problem. But from what you said it sounds like tipicial glitchy stock Windows Mobile bad behavior.
Also to turn off Swype you have to touch on the little triangle arrow beside the keyboard symbol at the bottom of the keyboard. This will bring up a menu box just select to use the standard keyboard and not Swype.
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thanks again.
the problem is the moment the swype key board appears on screen, it becomes stuck. no key works after that. only option is a soft reset. is it safe to do the rom flash by myself? where can i find a detaild guide to do it? and what rom do you recommend? in the htc site i noted that there is a newer update to my stock rom. how would that rom workout?
If HTC has a update ROM for your HD2 I say go for that one first they should have a detailed set of instructions on the site you download it from. Most ofctge update official ROMs are 3.14 ROMs andcthe 3.14 ROMs are alot more stable considering they are stock ROMs. I do recomemd a Energy ROM if you want to try a custom ROM just read through and look at all the screen shots in the first couple of post in the thread that are by the dev of the ROMs and pick Wichita ROM he had there that you like the looks and sound of best. You can most definitely flash the ROMs yourself be it official or custom.
Here is a tutorial guide for flashing international HD2's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
Here is a tutorial guide for flashing T-Mobile USA HD2's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
Use the guide that is appropriate for the model HD2 you have.
T-Macgnolia said:
If HTC has a update ROM for your HD2 I say go for that one first they should have a detailed set of instructions on the site you download it from. Most ofctge update official ROMs are 3.14 ROMs andcthe 3.14 ROMs are alot more stable considering they are stock ROMs. I do recomemd a Energy ROM if you want to try a custom ROM just read through and look at all the screen shots in the first couple of post in the thread that are by the dev of the ROMs and pick Wichita ROM he had there that you like the looks and sound of best. You can most definitely flash the ROMs yourself be it official or custom.
Here is a tutorial guide for flashing international HD2's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
Here is a tutorial guide for flashing T-Mobile USA HD2's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
Use the guide that is appropriate for the model HD2 you have.
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thanks very much.
i m going to try the new stock rom first and if its not ok then would try the energy rom. will keep you updated.
kanishkapd said:
thanks very much.
i m going to try the new stock rom first and if its not ok then would try the energy rom. will keep you updated.
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hi
i have installed the new 3.14 rom. seemed ok for one day. but problems are back. when i switch on the phone, the home screen comes on as normal. after i switch to standby mode and try to start phone again the screen stays blank for about 10 minutes. the hard buttons are flashing though. after 5 min, spontaneouly recovers and again problem occurs when switched off and restarts.
any suggestion pls? do u think i should go for a cooked rom? and in which departments do the cooked roms are better than the stock? can the dutties task manager cause this problem? (i hv it installed at the moment.}
thnaks
I am no expert but ... the radio base band version ( software speaking to the hardware ) is the first thing that comes to mind....mine kept on restarting so i update it to 2.15.xx.xx and it works flawlessly now
kiki_tt said:
I am no expert but ... the radio base band version ( software speaking to the hardware ) is the first thing that comes to mind....mine kept on restarting so i update it to 2.15.xx.xx and it works flawlessly now
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thanks
my radio version is 2.15.50.14. it cant be the problem? can it?
Do yourself a big favour & try energy ROM such as Dinik 29017 (my preffered version is 23699)
These ROMs are far more touch friendly, far more stable (yet to need soft reset on my HD2 with Energy Dinik 23699) & you will get great support if needed by reading or posting in the thread.
Have a look & read at link below;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
same problem
Mister B said:
Do yourself a big favour & try energy ROM such as Dinik 29017 (my preffered version is 23699)
These ROMs are far more touch friendly, far more stable (yet to need soft reset on my HD2 with Energy Dinik 23699) & you will get great support if needed by reading or posting in the thread.
Have a look & read at link below;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
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thanks very much. surely like to try that. but still bit doubtful. if any problem can i get the stock rom back?
kanishkapd said:
thanks very much. surely like to try that. but still bit doubtful. if any problem can i get the stock rom back?
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you can easily get the stoch rm back if there is any problem ....u should go and install hspl4 on your hd2 and then select 2.08.hspl in the installation window ... and then u can do anything with you phonei.e. put android on it or windows phone 7 if u need any help for that u can just pm me or follow some threads i myself was very scared the first time when i installed hspl but it came out to e very simple afterward
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you can easily get the stoch rm back if there is any problem ....u should go and install hspl4 on your hd2 and then select 2.08.hspl in the installation window ... and then u can do anything with you phonei.e. put android on it or windows phone 7 if u need any help for that u can just pm me or follow some threads i myself was very scared the first time when i installed hspl but it came out to e very simple afterward
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thanks. all you guys. my newly upgraded stock rom has stuck again for the 4th time in 2 days. going to try the energy rom. hope i d be successful.
kanishkapd said:
thanks. all you guys. my newly upgraded stock rom has stuck again for the 4th time in 2 days. going to try the energy rom. hope i d be successful.
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These ROMs are good, make sure you follow instructions & read up on it before flashing.
Get HSPL 2.08 on your HD2 & make sure your radio version is compatible & then flash Energy ROM of your choice ...
Top tip is charge battery 100% before flashing (seem to reduce battery calibration problems & can be of benefit if you run into problems, also a hard reset after custom ROM has completed first boot is good practice.
Also have some patience & give yourself time to adjust to the new ROM, asking a few questions & doing some searching will be far more productive than flashing to another ROM because of a problem.
Good luck & maybe I see you in the Energy ROM thread ...
thanks very much guys.
i got the energy rom installed successfully and already i m loving it. i m so glad i joined the xda community. one more thing pls. are these roms upgraded? how can i watch out for new upgrades, new features to be downladed...etc?
kanishkapd said:
thanks very much guys.
i got the energy rom installed successfully and already i m loving it. i m so glad i joined the xda community. one more thing pls. are these roms upgraded? how can i watch out for new upgrades, new features to be downladed...etc?
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to be updated just keep looking out for any updates on the respective rom thread ... since u already have a custom winmo rom u culd try out this android sd build (im just trying to be of some help ) to use it u just have to download and extract the android build to your sd card dont extract it into a folder just extract the full thing to the fist screen u see when u open ur sd card... then just run clrcad first and then haret ...then enjoy ur android sd build to go back to winmo just shutdown and startup again
Edit : oops here is the URL . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652 it was the best I used I miss it since its not avalible for nand flashing
kanishkapd said:
thanks very much guys.
i got the energy rom installed successfully and already i m loving it. i m so glad i joined the xda community. one more thing pls. are these roms upgraded? how can i watch out for new upgrades, new features to be downladed...etc?
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Out of interest which Energy ROM did you install.
You can check for updates by looking at thread & seeing date of latest release, going for latest releases & build numbers does not always give best results. Sometimes old is gold ;-) Best to settle into your current ROM & only update if things you deem important are updated/added.
Have fun with Energy ROM, well set up it makes Android & iphone look limited & outdated & seriously has some useful features Android is missing such as Auto APN setup & organised apps & settings menu & a far more advanced mail app to mention just a few.
siddharth singh said:
to be updated just keep looking out for any updates on the respective rom thread ... since u already have a custom winmo rom u culd try out this android sd build (im just trying to be of some help ) to use it u just have to download and extract the android build to your sd card dont extract it into a folder just extract the full thing to the fist screen u see when u open ur sd card... then just run clrcad first and then haret ...then enjoy ur android sd build to go back to winmo just shutdown and startup again
Edit : oops here is the URL . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652 it was the best I used I miss it since its not avalible for nand flashing
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thanks. certainly would try that too.
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Out of interest which Energy ROM did you install.
You can check for updates by looking at thread & seeing date of latest release, going for latest releases & build numbers does not always give best results. Sometimes old is gold ;-) Best to settle into your current ROM & only update if things you deem important are updated/added.
Have fun with Energy ROM, well set up it makes Android & iphone look limited & outdated & seriously has some useful features Android is missing such as Auto APN setup & organised apps & settings menu & a far more advanced mail app to mention just a few.
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thanks for all the advice. i installed the energy rom, the first one in the thread. liked the pictures of that rom and the dev had mentioned it was the best....
Mister B said:
Out of interest which Energy ROM did you install.
You can check for updates by looking at thread & seeing date of latest release, going for latest releases & build numbers does not always give best results. Sometimes old is gold ;-) Best to settle into your current ROM & only update if things you deem important are updated/added.
Have fun with Energy ROM, well set up it makes Android & iphone look limited & outdated & seriously has some useful features Android is missing such as Auto APN setup & organised apps & settings menu & a far more advanced mail app to mention just a few.
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Android already has auto apn! !
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[Q] Which Android port is the most stable for HTC HD2?

Hi Friends!
I have had experience in the past with iPhone's and iOS, but now I am putting some hands at Android phones.
Actually, I have a HTC HD2 with a poor operating system, which is Windows... I want to port Android there, and my question is, which one of the Android OS is the most stable in this phone. I know there are various versions of Android available for the HD2, but I am looking for the Android that will perform flawlessly and is the easiest to port (straightforward, using tool, not coding), I don't want to put my head in danger on the first attempt.
Which of the Androids works best on HTC HD2, and what tools do I use to make the port for that particular OS version.
Thanks in advance,
Best Regards
PS: provide me with direct links please!
IMPORTANT: by default this phone was factory locked to T-Mobile US, now I am using it outside the us in another country, but I did not perform anything on it to change the radio settings, the person that gave me the phone has unlocked it...If I port Android to this phone will it risk the radio settings (I would not like the lose the possibility of using it with other carriers), or porting Android does not mess with the radio at all...
For future reference, what type of Driver/Tool is required to have installed so the phone can interact with computer?
siemprepeligroso said:
Hi Friends!
I have had experience in the past with iPhone's and iOS, but now I am putting some hands at Android phones.
Actually, I have a HTC HD2 with a poor operating system, which is Windows... I want to port Android there, and my question is, which one of the Android OS is the most stable in this phone. I know there are various versions of Android available for the HD2, but I am looking for the Android that will perform flawlessly and is the easiest to port (straightforward, using tool, not coding), I don't want to put my head in danger on the first attempt.
Which of the Androids works best on HTC HD2, and what tools do I use to make the port for that particular OS version.
Thanks in advance,
Best Regards
PS: provide me with direct links please!
IMPORTANT: by default this phone was factory locked to T-Mobile US, now I am using it outside the us in another country, but I did not perform anything on it to change the radio settings, the person that gave me the phone has unlocked it...If I port Android to this phone will it risk the radio settings (I would not like the lose the possibility of using it with other carriers), or porting Android does not mess with the radio at all...
For future reference, what type of Driver/Tool is required to have installed so the phone can interact with computer?
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If you used the search tool or Google you could have easily found 100+ threads about the best ROM.
I would say use a CM7 or MIUI ROM. There are tonnes, don't be lazy, I CBA to post links (yes, that is very hypocritical of me).
As far as I know Android won't mess with your carrier stuff
To install just download the HD2 NAND Toolkit, install HSPL, MAGLDR, CWM then ROM (see this guide).
Nigeldg said:
If you used the search tool or Google you could have easily found 100+ threads about the best ROM.
I would say use a CM7 or MIUI ROM. There are tonnes, don't be lazy, I CBA to post links (yes, that is very hypocritical of me).
As far as I know Android won't mess with your carrier stuff
To install just download the HD2 NAND Toolkit, install HSPL, MAGLDR, CWM then ROM (see this guide).
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I tend to understand that he wants to PORT and not INSTALL an Android ROM. Isn't that correct?
If that is what you are asking then Gingerbread non-sense is currently the easiest to port. you can use the kitchen found within the development forum.
Marvlesz said:
I tend to understand that he wants to PORT and not INSTALL an Android ROM. Isn't that correct?
If that is what you are asking then Gingerbread non-sense is currently the easiest to port. you can use the kitchen found within the development forum.
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I wasn't too sure, but I assumed that the use of the word 'port' was simply a misunderstanding, in the same way that many people say that they have 'flashed' an SD Android build.
@OP, If I was wrong then I take back what I said about not searching and stuff cos this is clearly not something heavily discussed and there isn't as much information available about it.
In my experiance hyperdroid cm7 has good speed stability, and battry life. This is a minimal rom with not a lot of fluff. If you like iphone fluff i would suggest ndt miui stable, miui has iphone simple fluff with andorid power, while cm7 has extended power user features like cpu controll built in.
to learn how to do this look for a newbie thread. They walk you form stock with being locked down to android and unlocked for flashing new roms.
I would go for hyperdroid it's fast and stable.

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