Hi, im planning to buy a HTC HD2 these days and i will most likely use Android as the default OS. Now i wonder if the ROM must be installed on SD or can i just boot it? For example if i want to boot Sense rom one time and non sense next time, do i need to reinstall something or just boot it up?
Im really looking forward getting my HD2, ive been watching youtube like crazy now.. gotta go sleep hahah
There are boot loaders you can install in winmo. Some support multiple android builds which will allow you to choose sense/no sense builds on boot up. By doing so though, your data from your sense build will not be available on your non-sense build and vice versa.
Ignore the any "dual boot" app for a minute. Most Android builds I have seen can happily coexist with as many other builds as you have space for on your SD card. Just make sure:
* they reside in distinctly named folders (e.g. rename the build's Android folder to whatever you want)
* the startup.txt in each build's folder refers to the folder name (see instructions in the EBL thread)
As each build comes with clrcad+haret, you can now freely launch whichever build you want with File Explorer.
Note that the builds are not perfectly insulated from each other:
Most builds seem to use an "Android" folder on the SD card for various data and caches. Avoid putting a build in this folder! Be wary that data in this folder may be incompatible between builds, though I have not yet had such a problem. If in doubt, rename the folder to something else (or backup and delete) and reset your build.
Also note that many apps directly use the SD card for storage - this may cause data leakage between builds (I find it's a good thing, as data [like downloaded game files] and configs are basically reused).
I also find it very useful to "temporarily factory reset" a build. Basically, I rename data.img to data.img2 and reboot. This way I can figure out if a problem is caused by my own meddling, or by something in the build, then I rename back and reboot when done. I often keep a backup data.img in which I have only set up the barest essentials (OOBE, Market account, Ti-backup and Root Explorer) for such testing.
Now, for a "dual boot" WM app which supports several build folders, I recommend EBL.
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Hi, i have ShubCrafts android rom from early august currently on my HD2 and i want to change over to darkstone HD2Froyo V2.1.
I wanted to know if i backed up my apps using titanium backup will it keep all my data from the apps? furthermore can i backup my personal information - sms, contacts, and then restore them in darkstone's rom without any problems.
lastly on the root of my sdcard i have several folders from android apps, Grooveshark, Kindle, Espn score center etc and i wanted to know if i should reformat my sdcard and then place a single android folder on there with the darkstone files, or can i just rename/delete the shubCraft android folder and then just replace it with darkstone's and then run android.
oh one last thing, i wanted to ask how do i go about adding a 1GB data image, i will be trying to use this file - 1GB data.img v1.1 for DarkStone's Froyo v1! - and hopefully it is compatible. Will i just have to boot android for the first time let it create the data image and then replace it with the 1GB file i have downloaded, directly in android or boot back to winmo and then copy/paste it into the android folder.
So sorry for the multitude of questions being asked, any help appreciated.
Arigato Gozaimasu
I am also interested to see if this can be done. I just got a larger MicroSD card and I don't want to have to start from scratch.
Have you tried posting in the shubcraft build thread?
can anyone help us.... please
Hmmm. well I used this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741383
However make sure you read mstrk242 post on the 2nd page:
mstrk242 said:
I think some of the confusion on the linux side is resize2fs -p (size) is for block size not bytes. So 512000 is actually 2gb. If you do 256000 it worked for me my data.img was 4 block size. If you are using the build I am (mattc 1.4rc) this will work. I suggest copying the data.img to your hd and doing it there so you cant mess up the original. I also found that my build doesnt seem to like a bigger file than 1gb, but its the only one ive tested this on.
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Only problem with this method is that you need linux (you could just use a live cd) and you kinda need to know how to start/use the terminal (which is a bit like cmd/command prompt on windows). But I've found this guide quite straight forward.
hey is anyone able to help, please i would greatly appreciate any answers to my problems.
thank you
ichigo786 said:
Hi, i have ShubCrafts android rom from early august currently on my HD2 and i want to change over to darkstone HD2Froyo V2.1.
I wanted to know if i backed up my apps using titanium backup will it keep all my data from the apps? furthermore can i backup my personal information - sms, contacts, and then restore them in darkstone's rom without any problems.
lastly on the root of my sdcard i have several folders from android apps, Grooveshark, Kindle, Espn score center etc and i wanted to know if i should reformat my sdcard and then place a single android folder on there with the darkstone files, or can i just rename/delete the shubCraft android folder and then just replace it with darkstone's and then run android.
oh one last thing, i wanted to ask how do i go about adding a 1GB data image, i will be trying to use this file - 1GB data.img v1.1 for DarkStone's Froyo v1! - and hopefully it is compatible. Will i just have to boot android for the first time let it create the data image and then replace it with the 1GB file i have downloaded, directly in android or boot back to winmo and then copy/paste it into the android folder.
So sorry for the multitude of questions being asked, any help appreciated.
Arigato Gozaimasu
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Hi,
I have frequently switched between shubcraft and Froyostone so might be able to help. I use Titanium back up.
1. Backup your current build using titanium backup (free on android market)
2. Download and extract your new build. What I also do is download the apk files (from www.freewarelovers.com) of a file manager such as Estrongs as well as Titanium backup and copy them into the 'AndroidApps' folder contained within the new build to be installed. This way they install on first boot and avoids me having to connect to market for their installation.
3. Go to your SD card and remove all your current native android files and folders. Leave folders that belong to your installed apps such as grooveshack, espn etc.
4. Copy your new build onto your SD card and boot.
5. After 1st boot, reboot again by pressing the power button.
6. Work though initial android set up
7. Go to settings>applications> tap 'unknown sources' > ok
8. Open your installed titanium back up. Tap 'backup/restore', Press windows hardkey button, select 'batch'. Scroll down on the list and tap 'restore missing apps + data'.
9. After installation, reboot device
10. Enjoy!!
NB: Froyostone v2. comes with 1GB data already!
can i but more than 1 android build on the same card and manually run whichever i want? and if yes then how?
Yes, you just have to rename the folders of the builds you don't want to use and name "Android" to the one you have chosen. ^^ Is that what you mean?
suzaku said:
can i but more than 1 android build on the same card and manually run whichever i want? and if yes then how?
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For each build you have you must change the default name of the android folder to something like android1.
Then edit your startup.txt to reflect this set cmdline "rel_path=Android1"
Then you can have as many builds as you want.
cool thanks guys
but there's something that confuses me; when running android it creates many folders on the SD card itself not inside the Android folder. so if i put another build on the same card, wouldn't that conflict with the old one's folders?
doesnt bother my builds
great gonna try it out thanks a lot
suzaku said:
cool thanks guys
but there's something that confuses me; when running android it creates many folders on the SD card itself not inside the Android folder. so if i put another build on the same card, wouldn't that conflict with the old one's folders?
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I've gone through the exact same questions and concerns. There was no topic like this one so I just went ahead and gave it a try. I put several builds in separate folders and edited the Startup.txt accordingly, as suggested in one of the previous posts. Sure enough, there were common folders that all builds were using, such as ".Android" and a few more. However, it was not an issue, at least for me. On the contrary, it was an unexpected advantage. For example, on one build I installed and configured AppBrain Web Push with a list of about a dozen autoinstall apps. As soon as I switched to a different version, all those apps automatically loaded on the first boot
I suspect same will happen with for example camera shots, bookmarks, although didnt have the time to experiment.
I can defintely say I saw no issues in putting more than one Andorid build on one SD card.
Use Exeller Multiple Build Loader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737001
And now I am no longer a Junior member...
So with the advent of boot loaders such as Excellers which allow you to choose different builds of Android, what exactly do you need to copy off the SDCard to backup your build?
I dont mean the data, sms, mail, etc, but the actual entire build?
Is it enough to simply copy the Android folder and the files inside it including data.img or is there a need to copy the other folders and files that android creates in the root of your SD (LOST.DIR, rosie_scroll, etc)?
Android builds automatically create those folders and files if they do not exist for them, but will it cause issues if they already exist, since we can now switch between builds on the same card?
Any ideas??
Oh, and I did search, didnt find anything conclusive though.
As far as I know. Making a copy of the Android folder is enough. Be carefull though, the DCIM folder must be backup aswell if you have made any pictures/video's. The rest of the folders .secure etc are just temp folders.
For backing up you can use the free program Titanium backup aswell (found on market), use the search, someone wrote a nice guide for it some time ago. Can be used very easy to transfer your installed apps from one build to another. Transfering system settings isn't a good idea, especially not if you switching different builds. Only when updating your current build it should be ok (not recommended), but sometimes copying your data.img to your new build is enough to get your applications in the new build.
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As far as I know. Making a copy of the Android folder is enough. Be carefull though, the DCIM folder must be backup aswell if you have made any pictures/video's. The rest of the folders .secure etc are just temp folders.
For backing up you can use the free program Titanium backup aswell (found on market), use the search, someone wrote a nice guide for it some time ago. Can be used very easy to transfer your installed apps from one build to another. Transfering system settings isn't a good idea, especially not if you switching different builds. Only when updating your current build it should be ok (not recommended), but sometimes copying your data.img to your new build is enough to get your applications in the new build.
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Basically I just want to try out different builds concurrently, switching between them with Exceller.
Data isn much of an issue since most of mine is in the cloud somewhere but its a pain installing some new build only to find the one you just had and spent time configuring, was a hell of a lot better.
Well i'm not entirely sure about where the settings are stored. But my guess is, just backup the android folder and you will be fine (think most is stored in the data.img). Delete all the other folders and switch to your new build. If you don't like it, switching back should be a breeze.
Why don't you just try it once. Change some settings, delete all the folders except for the android folder and boot again, see if the changes you made are still there.
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Well i'm not entirely sure about where the settings are stored. But my guess is, just backup the android folder and you will be fine (think most is stored in the data.img). Delete all the other folders and switch to your new build. If you don't like it, switching back should be a breeze.
Why don't you just try it once. Change some settings, delete all the folders except for the android folder and boot again, see if the changes you made are still there.
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mainly because there arent enough hours in the day, so many roms, so little time.............
Well, since i'm at work and bored, I tried it for you.
Only imporant folder is the Android folder and our DCIM for your pictures. All the other directories do nothing but temp stuff on my rEVOlution 2.2. Deleted them all and android still booted just fine with all settings and homescreens I had applied.
Hope this awnsers your question now.
Excellent, thank you very much, I will be trying to clear some time later to try an alternate build on the same card. I will post how it goes.
Seems to work, as long as you edit the startup text to include the foldername of your build Exceller lets you switch between builds:
set cmdline "rel_path=YourbuildfolderHere"
hallo guys I want to install 2 ROMS in SD card for my HD2 device.
a sense and a MIUI one ,,but I want to have both installed!
in order to run everytime which I want...
is this possible ? can you explain and help?
many thanks!!
Yes, it is.
In the folder with the files in (probably named 'Android') there is a file called startup.txt. Change the folder name to whatever you want (e.g. 'MIUI' or 'Sense') then within the folder open the startup.txt. There will be a line saying rel_path=Android (or whatever the name of the folder originally was). Change this to rel_path=your folder name and boot. I can't remember if the line is exactly like that, so keep the formatting the same (i.e. the same spaces, signs etc.) and only change the Android bit.
thank you! and after I boot into windows how I will choose which I want?
(MIUI or SENSE named?)
gesamgr said:
thank you! and after I boot into windows how I will choose which I want?
(MIUI or SENSE named?)
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Well I guess you would have to uninstall any automatic loaders you have and manually browse through the files and choose the right CLRCAD and HARET from the desired folder
ok thank you !!!
Hi gesamgr,
follow the download link for the exceller autoloader in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737001
On bootup sequence it shows you the opportunity to choose which OS you'd like to boot - multiple OS as SD version included! Remember to follow the instructions carefully.
best regards
Getrid
Use MAGLDR 1.13 for booting into WINDOWS or any ANDROID ROM.
Just use Boot AD SD for booting into Android.
Change the folder for booting different android ROMs using SERVICES....Boot Setting.....Android SD Folder.
I have 3 roms in SD
just point the way in Magldr
Hello everybody!!!
I'm a very noob user, so i please a need a step by step help!
I tryed to install a dual boot on my hd2, with android ICS (MIUI) on SD, and windows mobile 6,5 on NAND.
To get that result i used this Guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504369
..but, in the the guide is written:
"Instructions:
Well you know just extract everything and put the miuiics folder in your root of sd card, you know the rest.."
maybe a link to the guide is better then "you know the rest..."!
I don't Know the rest, and I proceded in this way:
1) Inistalled the MAGLDR
2) copyed the rom of android on a SD card
3) Configured the setting to make a boot to SD and Android working perfectly!!
Now I even need to use windows mobile 6.5, but I don't know to switch on it!
I think that MAGLDR is overwritten on WM6.5 rom, and now I have a phone with only android, where is impossible to make a dual boot!!!
Anyone can write me the procedure step by step to retry to install correctly the dual boot with WM6,5 and android MIUI ics? Is even good a link with a guide that I didn't found!!!
I have 2,08 HSPL.
Thanks anticipately for your explains!
Nick.sf
nick.sf said:
Hello everybody!!!
I'm a very noob user, so i please a need a step by step help!
I tryed to install a dual boot on my hd2, with android ICS (MIUI) on SD, and windows mobile 6,5 on NAND.
To get that result i used this Guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504369
..but, in the the guide is written:
"Instructions:
Well you know just extract everything and put the miuiics folder in your root of sd card, you know the rest.."
maybe a link to the guide is better then "you know the rest..."!
I don't Know the rest, and I proceded in this way:
1) Inistalled the MAGLDR
2) copyed the rom of android on a SD card
3) Configured the setting to make a boot to SD and Android working perfectly!!
Now I even need to use windows mobile 6.5, but I don't know to switch on it!
I think that MAGLDR is overwritten on WM6.5 rom, and now I have a phone with only android, where is impossible to make a dual boot!!!
Anyone can write me the procedure step by step to retry to install correctly the dual boot with WM6,5 and android MIUI ics? Is even good a link with a guide that I didn't found!!!
I have 2,08 HSPL.
Thanks anticipately for your explains!
Nick.sf
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First link explains how get Android installed and running from SD using CLRCAD.EXE and HaRet.exe = "you know the rest..."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
and also a link how to get WM back on the HD2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
BTW: the link you attached is not a guide, it is the ROM itself with few instruction for people who have already some experiences
Cheers.....LinChina
Please do some more reading before flashing anything, if you didn't have an HD2 you would probably end up hard bricking your device if you didn't read. MAGLDR replaces WinMo. You need to boot into the bootloader, flash an official stock ROM via USB then run the SD build via CLRCAD and HARET.
LinChina said:
First link explains how get Android installed and running from SD using CLRCAD.EXE and HaRet.exe = "you know the rest..."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
and also a link how to get WM back on the HD2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
BTW: the link you attached is not a guide, it is the ROM itself with few instruction for people who have already some experiences
Cheers.....LinChina
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thanks a lot!
Later I will tray again! I'll let you know!!!
However in the guide you gave me, do not talk about Android ICS, but the previous version!!! "you know the rest..." continues to be a bit vague!!
Nick.sf
Nigeldg said:
Please do some more reading before flashing anything, if you didn't have an HD2 you would probably end up hard bricking your device if you didn't read. MAGLDR replaces WinMo. You need to boot into the bootloader, flash an official stock ROM via USB then run the SD build via CLRCAD and HARET.
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Thanks, but i tryed with CLRCAD and HARET without result!!!
Mayby "Android loader V6" isn't the bootloader corretc?
when I select CLRCAD and HARET, the phone lounch first screen of android loading, but then, the phone restarts!!!
nick.sf said:
Thanks, but i tryed with CLRCAD and HARET without result!!!
Mayby "Android loader V6" isn't the bootloader corretc?
when I select CLRCAD and HARET, the phone lounch first screen of android loading, but then, the phone restarts!!!
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OK you seem to be very confused with your terms, so I'll simplify things for you:
1. Turn the phone off
2. Boot into the bootloader (stripey screen) by holding power and volume down
3. Flash the latest 3.14 stock ROM (WinMo) for your particular device (see on HTC's official website, it has the downloads plus a guide)
4. Place the 'Android' folder on the root of your SD card. Note that the name of this folder may vary from build to build, but it is always the folder containing all of the files.
5. Boot into WinMo then find the file explorer
6. Open the 'Android' folder (or whatever it's called) and find the file 'CLRCAD.exe' and run it. You will not see any visual change
7. Find the file 'HARET.exe' and run it. Android will be booted.
8. After first boot, be patient. Give the device time to settle and then once everything seems fine (after at most 5 minutes) reboot.
9. Once you reboot, you will have WinMo again. Simply repeat steps 6 and 7 to boot into Android.
If this guide isn't simple enough for you, then in all honesty I don't think I can help you much, you'll have to find someone who's more noob-friendly
Nigeldg said:
OK you seem to be very confused with your terms, so I'll simplify things for you:
1. Turn the phone off
2. Boot into the bootloader (stripey screen) by holding power and volume down
3. Flash the latest 3.14 stock ROM (WinMo) for your particular device (see on HTC's official website, it has the downloads plus a guide)
4. Place the 'Android' folder on the root of your SD card. Note that the name of this folder may vary from build to build, but it is always the folder containing all of the files.
5. Boot into WinMo then find the file explorer
6. Open the 'Android' folder (or whatever it's called) and find the file 'CLRCAD.exe' and run it. You will not see any visual change
7. Find the file 'HARET.exe' and run it. Android will be booted.
8. After first boot, be patient. Give the device time to settle and then once everything seems fine (after at most 5 minutes) reboot.
9. Once you reboot, you will have WinMo again. Simply repeat steps 6 and 7 to boot into Android.
If this guide isn't simple enough for you, then in all honesty I don't think I can help you much, you'll have to find someone who's more noob-friendly
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Thank you so much for the help, but i just tryed this way!!!
In my situation, at point 8 of the guide, my phone restarts after about 30 second (no 5 minute) and then go in loop...
After the restart, the phone enter in WM and ask me to run CLRCAD.exe, and HARET.exe (in this order) and i accept.
The phone starts the loading screen of android, and restarts again.
It always restarts, without going into Android! I have seen at least 10 restarts before try to install Magldr!!!
I don't know the cause, but i think that android ICS is not compatible with the "Android loader V6". I used this loader with android gingerbread without problem!
Now in the link with ROM, i read:
"Ported using Portadroid Ultimate v4.0: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1094372 "
but the page does not exist!!!! What is portadroid ultimate? is it the bootloader?
I'd not worry about the bootloader and other terms much if I were you, it's not important for SD Android anyway
I apologise if I can't be much more use but I haven't used SD Android in a long time . The only thing I can think of is this: EDIT: see bottom of the post first, then try this
1. Find the SD Android build which you have downloaded on your PC
2. Open the folder and find the file 'startup.txt'
3. Find the line 'Rel_path=' and make sure that the next word matches the name of the folder in which the build is stored, for example if I had an SD build with the folder name 'Android', that line in startup.txt should also say 'Rel_path=Android'.
The only other thing I can think of is that somehow the folder isn't in the root of your SD card. Make sure the folder which contains the files (so in the example I gave previously this folder would be called Android) is copied to the root of your SD card. There should be no sub-folders or anything like that, just /Android.
EDIT: I think I may have found it now, try uninstalling the automatic loader app you have (Android Loader V6) and running these files manually rather than doing it automatically. If I'm not mistaken, this app looks for a folder named 'Android' by default, but the name of the folder your ICS build is stored in may be something different.
Just to add that ICS SD builds are often in an 'ICS' folder instead of 'Android'
It shouldn't matter using CLRCAD.exe, and HARET.exe though.
Nigeldg said:
I'd not worry about the bootloader and other terms much if I were you, it's not important for SD Android anyway
I apologise if I can't be much more use but I haven't used SD Android in a long time . The only thing I can think of is this: EDIT: see bottom of the post first, then try this
1. Find the SD Android build which you have downloaded on your PC
2. Open the folder and find the file 'startup.txt'
3. Find the line 'Rel_path=' and make sure that the next word matches the name of the folder in which the build is stored, for example if I had an SD build with the folder name 'Android', that line in startup.txt should also say 'Rel_path=Android'.
The only other thing I can think of is that somehow the folder isn't in the root of your SD card. Make sure the folder which contains the files (so in the example I gave previously this folder would be called Android) is copied to the root of your SD card. There should be no sub-folders or anything like that, just /Android.
EDIT: I think I may have found it now, try uninstalling the automatic loader app you have (Android Loader V6) and running these files manually rather than doing it automatically. If I'm not mistaken, this app looks for a folder named 'Android' by default, but the name of the folder your ICS build is stored in may be something different.
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aldaweb said:
Just to add that ICS SD builds are often in an 'ICS' folder instead of 'Android'
It shouldn't matter using CLRCAD.exe, and HARET.exe though.
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That is correct. If I read it right, Android Loader had been set up already for a previous build. When you do this, you tell the app what folder to look for - i.e. "Android". Now that you have a different build, different folder name, the app cannot find all the associated files to boot from SD properly.
Your folder name is miuiics