Hi,
since some time, I am experiencing problems with my data connection. I dont really now, why but those persist through changes of AndroidOS, Radio and WM-ROM.
The Facts: HD2 european version, Operator: O2 Germany
The Problem in detail: When I am at home, I want to use my WLAN connection but some times, it doesnt connect to it. I have to manually go into the menu and reset my wlan-connection, so it works. Much more annoying is the fact, that when I am not at home (and WLAN is out of range), the phone often doesnt connect HSPA/3G/GSM/whatever and programms like maps, opera etc just claim to not having a data connection ready, though there are 2 to 4 bars. Only way to solve this -> go to flight mode, thet deactivate flight mode OR deactivate data connection, then reacivate it. Either way its annoing and mails won't be downloaded in this time, too.
My first setups, when I didnt have this problem where with WM OZDroid ROM, 2.12.50.XX Radio and many different Androidbuilts (no working compass / lightsensor etc - you know for sure ) Then I got to MDJ-Roms which I really liked and I never used another since those times. Still no Problems.
Then, by some time, I installed a new MDJ ROM - Mdeejay_FroYo_Sense_v._1.1_Clean_R75. This Rom needet to have PIN-auth disabled in Windows or it hung up in LOOP ( ). Sadly I installed a new WM-ROM and radio at the same time (I know, never change multiple parts at once... ugh!). Those where VBNDroid-Reloaded2-21913-Oct08 and Radio 2.15.50.14.
Since that time, I have this strange connection problem. I allready changed back to an oZDroid version and tried Radio 2.12 and 2.15. As Android ROM, i used MDJ eVo Sense Revolution 1.8 and now Mdeejay_FroYo_Revolution_v._1.6_S3. - Still the same problems.
I allready had the idea to reactivate PIN-auth but this option doesnt exist in my actual WM-OzDroid ROM.
Is there anyone experiencing the same problems or able to give me a hint in this case? I'am really not one of those persons "gimmie a new OS and I kill you if it doesnt work" - I know Android is work-in-progress but with all those superb fixes in past (lightsensor, compass etc) i cannot believe that a basic part like internet connection isnt working properly.
Thanks a lot for helping me out,
cmoe
RMNET
I think you'll find plenty of others who have had the same problem and some have had success with changing builds, kernels etc. There's plenty of stuff out there if you search on it.
I used to have data problems but switched to RMNET rather than PPP. You need to use a build that allows you to change this though and luckily for me, Bangsters 1.5 is such a build. It's not a sense build.
RMNET gets a bad press for it's speed, but to be honest it is perfectly ok for browsing the web. I leave all my downloading and updating till I'm on WiFi at home.
Regards your wifi issue, I have 'power control' widget on my homescreen and just switch WiFi off and on. Much easier than going into settings.
SteveDeckchair said:
I think you'll find plenty of others who have had the same problem and some have had success with changing builds, kernels etc. There's plenty of stuff out there if you search on it.
I used to have data problems but switched to RMNET rather than PPP. You need to use a build that allows you to change this though and luckily for me, Bangsters 1.5 is such a build. It's not a sense build.
RMNET gets a bad press for it's speed, but to be honest it is perfectly ok for browsing the web. I leave all my downloading and updating till I'm on WiFi at home.
Regards your wifi issue, I have 'power control' widget on my homescreen and just switch WiFi off and on. Much easier than going into settings.
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This might sound a bit noobish, but I was wondering if someone can recommend an android ROM which provides a stable data connection with the windows stock ROM WWE 3.14 (Radio 2.15.40) with SPL (not HSPL)
I'm currently using the mdeejay froyo sense (v2.4). The pain for me is that the 3G connection rarely works, even in areas with full bars, and the roamin data connection tends to drop out a fair bit as well despite full bars. I've tried rebooting, and that normally works but it is real pain to have to reboot on so many occasions (not to mention slow). I tried switchin to airplane mode and then switching the mobile network on again, but that doesn't seem to work.
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I am only writing here after I tried everything I could possibly imagine with no result. Sorry the long text.
I'd like to hear ideas from you. Anyone with a similar problem.
I have a Blackstone, and never had even the smallest problem with GSM signal. But now I face the following:
- If I set the Band to "Auto", my phone connects to the HSPDA network with no problem, and I use internet and make calls normally.
- If I set the band to "GSM", sometimes it connect, sometimes not. When I manage to connect, if I try to use the internet, sometimes I lose the signal. When I am making a call, it frequently hangs up. The problem is random, sometimes I can use GSM with internet and calls for a long time, but suddenly it crashes again!
The solution would be always connect to HSPDA, but the problem is that on "Auto" the phone sometimes goes to GSM alone, and the signal breaks down.
I cannot be sure exactly when this problem began. But it was after I installed PDAVIET's Rom (WM 6.5 21053 and manila 2.5), and radio 1.17.25.09.
Among everything I have done:
- Flashed dozens of Roms always hard-reseting twice after. Tried stock Roms, cooked Roms with WM 6.1 / 6.5, manila 1.3 / 2.1 / 2.5.
- Flashed radios 1.13 / 1.14 and 1.17 in combination with all Roms. Tried with and without ripphone.dll's
- To eliminate a operator problem, I used my chip on a nokia for a few days, and didn'd have a single problem with signal, calls, internet. I installed a chip from another operator and faced the same problem.
Nothing I have done made any result.
Even using my stock Rom didn't solved. I used this phone for 8 months with no problem. So I came to the conclusion this is hardware related, with the antenna or something.
Thanks
All right, have been through a few more Roms and Radios and the problem remains unchanged...
Really looks like an antenna related problem. Apparently I will never connect to GSM again unless I take my device to service (have no guarantee), and be lucky!
But anyway, I found a solution to the connection instability and phone calls interruptions. Solved my life for now. It is very complicated:
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HKLM\Software\OEM\UMTS
OpMode=2
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This forces the phone to always stay in the 3G band. The "Auto" mode you can set in Comm Manager lets the phone change to GSM when the signal is low or whenever he wants, and my connection breaks down.
BTW, other modes are:
OpMode=0 (Auto mode)
OpMode=1 (GSM only mode)
OpMode=2 (3G only mode)
I know this may not be useful for anyone, but I just felt like sharing...
Seriously people....
I've seen lots of threads recently. People are complaining that the HD2's data connection cuts out, leaving them unable to access the Internet from their phones for who knows how long. I know, it IS kinda annoying...But the thing is..
I can tell you this IS NOT a hardware problem. It's something to do with either the OS....or something in the phone's registry settings which no one has picked up yet...I hear that phones like the TP2 do not have this error, and I agree. My old unbranded Touch Pro 2 was brilliant, I could use it for IM and texts anywhere...LOL I used to sit on the Bus while people stared at my phone, while I was on Messenger talking to my phone. Anyways, here's what I wanna tell you guys. Hope I help out everyone in some way or another.
What I have:
HD2
3 Mobile Sim-So yeah, My Operator is 3 UK
Living in London, UK
Using ENERGY's 17th March Version ROM
HUSPA, HDSPA Enabled
What I've noticed:
The phone cuts out the signal when the transition between 3G and H occurs in the icons. As a result, the Internet cuts out temporarily, and programs such as Messenger lose connectivity for a while. For example, when the icon is on H, and no one's talking on Messenger, the Icon changes back to 3G....during this moment it cuts out sometimes..until it reverts back to the H icon (Got that? I know, it's a little long and complicated when I word it like that, but read it out and it'll make sense xD)
Now, whenever I have the phone connected to my PC/Laptop (Either as a Wi Fi Router or through the cable and then using Internet Sharing, either way, the phone does NOT change back to 3G, it stays constantly on H (Mind you, I usually download during this period). Anyways, the point being that the connection is VERY stable and constant, when in this state, connected to my PC/Laptop and the device is accessing the Internet through my phone's Data Connection. So what do you all think? And what have YOU found out? Leave your responses and ideas below
Some things I have found out are, if you Enable ONLY HUSPA in the Settings/Connectivity options, the connections seem to be more stable. Furthermore, if you really want to, Disable Advanced Connections, stay only on 3G, and enjoy a LOT of stability (At the cost of slower speed surfing and downloading )
My HD2 does not connect at all anymore. I called in to support because I completely lost data connectivity (web browser, email, slacker, whatever - no connection). They verified no troubles on their end. I moved the sim to my old touch pro (running Energy ROM w/ winmo 6.5 and Sense 2.1) and that phone connects fine. So it's not the SIM, and it's not the network.
I've also done a hard reset to get back to stock and still have the problem, which tells me that it's not a registry / software setting.
They only thing that leaves is faulty hardware - or firmware that a ROM hard reset wouldn't affect. Either way I need to replace the device altogether.
Unfortunately, tmo is out of stock and so I can only wait for a more to become available before it can be replaced.
csharper said:
My HD2 does not connect at all anymore. I called in to support because I completely lost data connectivity (web browser, email, slacker, whatever - no connection). They verified no troubles on their end. I moved the sim to my old touch pro (running Energy ROM w/ winmo 6.5 and Sense 2.1) and that phone connects fine. So it's not the SIM, and it's not the network.
I've also done a hard reset to get back to stock and still have the problem, which tells me that it's not a registry / software setting.
They only thing that leaves is faulty hardware - or firmware that a ROM hard reset wouldn't affect. Either way I need to replace the device altogether.
Unfortunately, tmo is out of stock and so I can only wait for a more to become available before it can be replaced.
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Which phone company are you with? I experienced the same problem with 3UK in North London for a couple of months up until the beginning of last week but it was a problem at 3's end, not mine. Other people have been experiencing similar issues with non-3 phones in London (http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showthread.php?t=102192).
yes, I had problems in London too before Good Friday. Especially on Tues+Wed.
Others around me inthe library also had similar issues with their iphones. I kept on switching the baseband and modes, and reapplying my 3G settings to keep it alive and solve the outages.
Most people with issues were on vodafone or O2 (like me).
It would work, then cut, then work.
I thought at first it was because I had a custom ROM, but iphone users had the same - and lots of timeouts on requests.
I DO believe however that running ROMS like energy's and Dutty's HG 1.7 with 2.10 (which I'm currently running) bases as 2_08 radios is not great for the uk and exacerbates the connection issue. 2_07 is better...and in any event we SHOULD be using 1.72 based roms with 2_09 radio.
I have also noticed that on COM5 23544 builds the opera mobile 9.7 and 10 google boxes do not work. They come up as failed connection, but then i click on teh link and it works...weird huh???
So I think last week was because of network faults in London. But in general, these 2.10 based ROMS and their radios are not ideal for stability.
I had perfect call and HSDPA stability with 1.48stock+2_09 radio.
Having turned to a 23544 rom (Dutty's HG) with 2_08 radio I've had much less call and internet stability (and quality) over the stock with 2_09.
jakem said:
Which phone company are you with?
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T-Mobile US.
I Had major issues with the latest builds because of the PPP addon, the data won't work, or start.
After getting tired of running away from the problem using RMNET, I Decided to change my configuration,
This is the setup I Had:
HD2 GSM (Not TMOUS)
Chuky's GTX lite Rom for HD2
2.12 Radio
Andriod Roms whom I Had trouble with:
ShubCRAFT 1.4d
Mattec Leo+Froyo with sense 1.6-1.6b
then I Changed the setup to:
Cruzer Rom, sense 2.13
Radio 2.11 - 20
Andriod build:
Mattec Leo+Froyo with sense 1.6-1.6b
The first time I Booted I Had no connection what so ever, the second time I Got connectiviy but the symbol doesn't show the u/d status, and it still doesn't, but it does work, which is better IMO.
That's all, just wanted to share my solution to this annoying problem which atleast I Couldn't get rid off.
Sadly thou, I Only get a score of 1051 on Quadrant, don't know why, but the phone runs preety much fast, even with Live Wallpapers.
Cya
just want to ask, did the data connection works on all apps and browser?
i'm using 1.6b but found the data only work on browser but not work on others apps, even whether, facebook, market, news
can you works on all? and how about wifi? i tried another zImange or Rom can make the data works all fine but wifi error.
For me... I used Chucky Tabtastic and latest PPP_Root1.6b rom from mattc and it workded straight away.
As you said, the signal icon remains static does not show any activity but the connectivity works well.
I did not go through all the troubles you have
My fix for ppp was similar. I switched from a 2.12 radio to the 2.10 radio in my sign. Things are working MUCH better.
Sent from my HD2 mattc froyosense using XDA App
I can confirm ppp work in radio 2.10.50.28_2 for me in all apps
and it is stable so far (unless you toggle wifi on/off )
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and it is stable so far (unless you toggle wifi on/off )
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yeah.. that's a really big "unless" for me. I don't want to have to yank out the battery and reboot every time I want to use Wifi.
I just wanted to let you guys know that if you have a lot of crashes and/or problems with PPP data, you might try to change your Radio to one of the latest versions.
I'm curently using the energyrom(posted on this forum) and I always used the 2.07.50
Radio rom. With this Radio, I had a lot of problems with the Mattc build and the froyostone build concerning PPP data. I sometimes didn't saw the arrows, the phone froze,bad reception etc...etc...
After playing with the latest Radio, all my problems are gone. The 3G/HSDPA works as it should be. So for the folks who are still using RMNET like I used too, it might be worth changing your Radio to see if it fixes anything.
Hopefully it works for some people, but it doesn't for me.
I've always used 2.12 radio but PPP just does not work at all.
I'm still trying to work out exactly what prevents some people from using PPP.
I also had to use APN backup to configure my APN settings properly. Before that, it would'nt work for me either.
Try 2.10.50_26. Ppp works for me
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im using whats in my sig and PPP works for me.
2.10 here too.
PPP works fine.
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How far r we with the new build 1.2 can u give us in time waited all day today its 1am in UK now
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yeah changing the radio fixed alot of my bigs
+1 for radio 2.10. I tried 2.12 and got freezes with PPP. Going to the radio below and PPP acts just like RMNet. I get the occasional 10-15 second freeze when recovering in WiFi, but I never get that in 3G/H mode.
PPP never work for me, tried all available radios for TMOUS, I don't get service at all.
+1 for 2.10.50.26 never had a problem with PPP, and I've used them all.
I use my ROMs clubbed with 2.10.50.26 as Radio and mattc/shub/hyper all work great PPP/RMNET/Wifi/Bluetooth
I guess it depends on what core files are being used on WM side...i use 2.14 base which came with the same radio as mentioned above and has best compatibility with the core files.
Yesterday, I got 1% hr standby with Push On and Bluetooth headset connected and few SMS....thats very much comparable to WM itself...however, sometimes it suddenly drains and I suspect some bg prog for that ...
Just adding a different approach to the story... Could the carrier have something to do with this??
I don't think the Radio version has anything to do with the hard freezes.. As I've tried every radio version and winmo compatible roms for android builds and still, I would get a hard freeze each and everytime.. It would work for a period of time, but once it disconnects and try to reconnect, it freezes.. Sometimes it would just freeze as soon as you boot Android.. And that only happens when I input the right APN settings for my internet plan.. Or when it starts accepting data's.. So I think it's got something to do with the Carrier, APN and Proxy settings.. Either you have to have the right internet settings for the Android phones/plan, or it would freeze your phone.. Anyway, that's just what I think.. RMNET on the other hand is rock solid! It doesn't matter whether you put a Proxy or not, it would connect just fine without freezing.. Just my observation..
For me only rmnet work, ppp never worked. I am in Switzerland by Sunrise. Is there someone being by Sunrise Switzerland and having ppp working?
I am running hd2 mattc 1.6b.
for those with working PPP, sorry to say, it's only a matter of time for yours to crash...your lucky. There is still an issue with PPP in the latest kernel's. They are working on a fix. Hopefully you will still be lucky and your PPP build is still working when they update the kernel with a fix. For others with the hard freeze's. Your not alone, it's not your fault or radio, it's an error in the kernel. I don't take credit for this info, read the IRC channel and see for yourself. Straight from Letema & gauner1986- the devs who made PPP work in the first place on our HD2's.
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for those with working PPP, sorry to say, it's only a matter of time for yours to crash...your lucky. There is still an issue with PPP in the latest kernel's. They are working on a fix. Hopefully you will still be lucky and your PPP build is still working when they update the kernel with a fix. For others with the hard freeze's. Your not alone, it's not your fault or radio, it's an error in the kernel. I don't take credit for this info, read the IRC channel and see for yourself. Straight from Letema & gauner1986- the devs who made PPP work in the first place on our HD2's.
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Thank you for the info. I was getting crazy.. I had the Matt 1.7 ppp working for 2 days no problem at all. But after 2 days I'm having intermittent hard freeze when I start the apn. ..
I was going to try with a 2.10. Radio.. but after your post I will kelp 2.12 radio and move to rmnet
Thanks for sharing
I'm on 3 in Australia
In my case both PPP and RMNET are working for normal Internet, but I cannot access Plane 3 on PPP, but I can access with RMNET. Anyone has the same issue on 3 in other countries? or perhaps any solution on how to enable Planet 3 on PPP?
Hey guys,
i have constant battles with my HD2 running Android. The mobile reception and logically because of that APN is also not workin properly.
Example: I'm at home and have full mobile-reception and internet is working flawlessly. One second later nothings workin... The reception display shows 4/4 lines and one second later 0/4. But i didn't move.. Same with WLAN and APN..
I guess it's not a "build problem", cuz i had this with lots of builds. So it's maybe a windows mobile thing. I have flashed 2.12.50 radio and chucky droid rom.
I tried 2.14 but my conversational partners had very strong echos. (with MIUI-Build)
I searched the forum and googled but i didn't find any solution for this..
Really need this to be fixed.
thx bench
benchbench said:
Hey guys,
i have constant battles with my HD2 running Android. The mobile reception and logically because of that APN is also not workin properly.
Example: I'm at home and have full mobile-reception and internet is working flawlessly. One second later nothings workin... The reception display shows 4/4 lines and one second later 0/4. But i didn't move.. Same with WLAN and APN..
I guess it's not a "build problem", cuz i had this with lots of builds. So it's maybe a windows mobile thing. I have flashed 2.12.50 radio and chucky droid rom.
I tried 2.14 but my conversational partners had very strong echos. (with MIUI-Build)
I searched the forum and googled but i didn't find any solution for this..
Really need this to be fixed.
thx bench
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I don't know a lot about android. But i had similar "echo" problems when i used a TMOUS based rom. I use miris 1.80 based rom with 2.14 radio in the uk on vodafone with no problems.
Miri Rom Here: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2520
Have you tried a RMNET based android build. The data connection with those is slower but generally more stable. I use ppp but do get the data drop off. but turning the mobile data off and turning back on again sorts the problem.
It would probably better to post such questions in the android general section.
original_ganjaman said:
I don't know a lot about android. But i had similar "echo" problems when i used a TMOUS based rom. I use miris 1.80 based rom with 2.14 radio in the uk on vodafone with no problems.
Miri Rom Here: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2520
Have you tried a RMNET based android build. The data connection with those is slower but generally more stable. I use ppp but do get the data drop off. but turning the mobile data off and turning back on again sorts the problem.
It would probably better to post such questions in the android general section.
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im currently using an RMNET Build. But this brought no improvement.
thx
Moved to Gereral Discussion Forum.
Mark.
i used winmob for a couple of hours and i experienced no reception variability. I'm completely stumped...
Any clue for this?
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i used winmob for a couple of hours and i experienced no reception variability. I'm completely stumped...
Any clue for this?
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Same problem here. Signal drops quite frequently and for now i like the sense builds which you cant switch to 2G (unless im missing something). With other builds if i switch to 2G its sort of fine but slow data connection.
Same here, I live in holland and use the 2.14 Radio. I don't have a data plan yet (the phone is brand new), so it doesn't really bother me.. yet
we really do need a fix for this
Is nobody havin an idea?
Me 2
I´m having the same problem...anybody know a cure for this?
no problems here ... 2.10.5 radio
Same problem here,tryed different combo's with wm and Android,radio's etc......signal drops now and then.
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Always signal drops here.. 35% of the time. Mesured with battery indicator.. only in Android not in winmo and I didnt find the right radio and rom for less drops.
Thats so strange. About every 10mins i have a totally data loss. Tried different radios and roms. Nothing helped. As i tried 2.14 i had strong echo issues.
i uploaded some screenshots. They're all taken at the same place. So you can see how strange these reception changes are...
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9430/snap20101011195709.png
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9261/snap20101011145139.png
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6186/snap20101011145334.png
Boy I'm glad to see this thread, I thought it was just me!
I am having exactly the same issue, and have done since using android builds. The only workaround I have is to switch on plane mode, and then switch it off again which seems to work for an hour or two. But then the signal goes all wonky again.
I wonder if this is also affecting the battery life. I'm sure I read somewhere once that loss of signal results in more battery use as the phone is constantly trying to locate signal.
I have tried a number of radio/rom combinations with no real change. As mentioned above, if I switch to 2G the signal seems more stable, but the data is unbearably slow.
I'm in the UK by the way.
drblow said:
Boy I'm glad to see this thread, I thought it was just me!
I am having exactly the same issue, and have done since using android builds. The only workaround I have is to switch on plane mode, and then switch it off again which seems to work for an hour or two. But then the signal goes all wonky again.
I wonder if this is also affecting the battery life. I'm sure I read somewhere once that loss of signal results in more battery use as the phone is constantly trying to locate signal.
I have tried a number of radio/rom combinations with no real change. As mentioned above, if I switch to 2G the signal seems more stable, but the data is unbearably slow.
I'm in the UK by the way.
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Hope somebody's gonna know how to help us
push push push
me too!
I have the same problem. I might try the 10.2.5 radio as above?
I had this issue with Android that signal drops for no reason. The trick to my problem? Disable in the Netwok Mode "GSM/WCDMA Auto" and choose "GSM Only". Now the signal should work flawlessly without drops. It worked for me