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Orig. MT3g or Vibrant...hmm...

Vibrant, yeah sure. My son (with the mt3g) and I race to get a location lock. You know the rest..
After maybe 10 min I finally get a lock. I am about 2 houses away in the yard. My son, accurate to.within 3-5 feet.
I know, I know, many threads about this. But still...grrrrrr..
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We are just going to have to wait for Samsung to create a fix for it. They confirmed that they will, but only time will tell when it is released. Or, when CM 6.1 for vibrant comes out and fixes it

Sigh.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728894 IS ALL YOU NEED to fix the GPS problem.

zephiK said:
Sigh.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728894 IS ALL YOU NEED to fix the GPS problem.
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*sigh*..... I DID that. Thus the post. You sigh, I vent, what a great creation, messaging forums.

Droidicus said:
*sigh*..... I DID that. Thus the post. You sigh, I vent, what a great creation, messaging forums.
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Don't know what to say then because I have yet to encounter GPS issues even without applying the fix. Return the phone to T-Mobile and get a new one. Either that or you did something wrong.
And you didn't mention that you TRIED the fix so that post would be irrelevant since you never said that you applied it.
Other alternatives: Flash Eugene's Vibrant5 that comes with the GPS fix implemented in.
- Factory reset
- Return to T-Mobile and get another Vibrant

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Don't know what to say then because I have yet to encounter GPS issues even without applying the fix. Return the phone to T-Mobile and get a new one. Either that or you did something wrong.
And you didn't mention that you TRIED the fix so that post would be irrelevant since you never said that you applied it.
Other alternatives: Flash Eugene's Vibrant5 that comes with the GPS fix implemented in.
- Factory reset
- Return to T-Mobile and get another Vibrant
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The GPS fix does not work for everyone...I've tried it on two different phones and the phone still takes three-four minutes to lock on to one out of nine visible satellites.

zephiK said:
Don't know what to say then because I have yet to encounter GPS issues even without applying the fix. Return the phone to T-Mobile and get a new one. Either that or you did something wrong.
And you didn't mention that you TRIED the fix so that post would be irrelevant since you never said that you applied it.
Other alternatives: Flash Eugene's Vibrant5 that comes with the GPS fix implemented in.
- Factory reset
- Return to T-Mobile and get another Vibrant
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Gps always worked good here also without fixes... guess I'm lucky?

Swapping my SGS with a new one.

So I've got one of the many Vibrants with the flaky GPS, and none of the fixes out there seem to improve the problem. My local T-Mo store is understanding and quite willing to swap it with a new one since I'm still within the 14 day policy. The only catch is I want to put the phone as close to stock as possible before I do the trade so they can't say it was something I did to it. Right now I've rooted deodexed, and I've got clockwork ROM manager going. I've also deleted almost all the stock cruft and swapped the calendar / camera apps. Because I was so eager to make it "mine", I also failed to make any backups BUT my wife happens to have a totally stock SGS from which I can scavange from but I'd like to do it without having to root it or anything. Is this possible? If not would thread 739091 ("True Stock 2.1 firmware for vibrant"; sorry I can't post links since my account here is still new) get me there?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475&highlight=stock is what you're looking for. Just flash this with Odin and you'll be fully unrooted.

Awesome, I really appreciate that. I'm not timid when it comes to making the phone my own (I was an early adopter of CyanogenMod for my old G1) but I just returned from a deployment and the whole 'scene' has changed a lot more than I expected lol.

Hehe. you might want to give the new T-Mobile Vibrant firmware that was leaked, it fixes the GPS problem (result may vary). Returning your SGS for a new one isn't going to fix your problem. It's not hardware related, its firmware.

An exchange won't fix your GPS issues anyway so you mine as well keep the one you have. Trust me, we try to swap them out customers all the time at my store.... It's a known issue and Samsung is SUPPOSED to be sending us an OTA soon
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ShanDestromp said:
Awesome, I really appreciate that. I'm not timid when it comes to making the phone my own (I was an early adopter of CyanogenMod for my old G1) but I just returned from a deployment and the whole 'scene' has changed a lot more than I expected lol.
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Just want to say thank you for serving.

zephiK said:
Returning your SGS for a new one isn't going to fix your problem. It's not hardware related, its firmware.
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An exchange won't fix your GPS issues anyway so you mine as well keep the one you have.
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Hmmm, quite a few people I'd talked with locally that have the vibrant said swapping worked for them. Is it possible that newer firmware has been released for phones with a newer "birth" date than mine? Then again who should I trust more, people who hardly utilize their phones, or the people who drool over the prospect of new mods and hacks? hehe. I guess I'll just call T-Mo back and let them know I wont be bothering with a swap after all.
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Just want to say thank you for serving.
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Hey, my pleasure. If nothing else, I have the Army to thank for bringing me out to Hawai'i and giving me the chance to meet my now wife hehe.

ALL out of the box Vibrant's have the same firmware. You need to update to the newest firmware version, it works really well. GPS is better than it is on my CLIQ.

I dunno, i've heard reports of GPS working perfect out of the box for some, and the new firmware doesn't seem to do much for my GPS,
10m accuracy at most unless I leave gps on for about an hour and maybe i'll get 6-7m accuracy, but driving, it SKIPS, (still at 10m) instead of gliding along like my G1 did.
So i'm considering perhaps swapping mine.

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I dunno, i've heard reports of GPS working perfect out of the box for some, and the new firmware doesn't seem to do much for my GPS,
10m accuracy at most unless I leave gps on for about an hour and maybe i'll get 6-7m accuracy, but driving, it SKIPS, (still at 10m) instead of gliding along like my G1 did.
So i'm considering perhaps swapping mine.
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10M of accuracy is not bad and if you want to get technical, GMaps interprets the data differently. What shows in GMaps as 10 meters will show up as 7 under GPS test. I've got my Vibrant here at 6 Meters under GPSTest and 10 under GMaps. Get a grip people.

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Get a grip people.
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I wont speak for Qwerty, but in my case I was LUCKY to get 10m accuracy; usually the best I could get was 40m; usually after 5-10 minutes of 'searching' and when you're driving an unfamiliar city such as Washington DC Like I was this past week, 40m is far too inaccurate for navigation. Your 'get a grip' is completely tasteless and uncalled for in this thread.
That said, I took zephiK's advice and just flashed the new 2.1 (thread 780935), and I must say its a lot better. I can get a 10m fix indoors in less than 5 seconds from a cold start (EG without GMaps knowing where I am at all); before being indoors I would never get less than a 1000m 'fix'. As soon as I get mine fully tweaked, I'll be sure to flash my wifes phone as well since she's got the same issue.

ShanDestromp said:
I wont speak for Qwerty, but in my case I was LUCKY to get 10m accuracy; usually the best I could get was 40m; usually after 5-10 minutes of 'searching' and when you're driving an unfamiliar city such as Washington DC Like I was this past week, 40m is far too inaccurate for navigation. Your 'get a grip' is completely tasteless and uncalled for in this thread.
That said, I took zephiK's advice and just flashed the new 2.1 (thread 780935), and I must say its a lot better. I can get a 10m fix indoors in less than 5 seconds from a cold start (EG without GMaps knowing where I am at all); before being indoors I would never get less than a 1000m 'fix'. As soon as I get mine fully tweaked, I'll be sure to flash my wifes phone as well since she's got the same issue.
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No thats what im saying about.. He does have the update on his Vibrant
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Anyways, Qwerty I just hope you get lucky with your swap and get a working gps and hardware recovery.I've been poking around and quite a few people are saying some of thenew vibrants have issues getting into recovery and down load mode
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Yeah, i'm still considering doing the swap, sometime this week, perhaps even today, got up this morning, and phone was off, (Charging Battery Symbol on the screen),
I'm not running any of the custom roms nor am i OCing. Just worried if I do the swap I may end up with even more problems. I don't know what it is with the Samsung phones, if perhaps a lot of the phones have hardware problems or what. I have only used the original stock rom, and the leaked samsung rom.
I don't mean to be picky with my phone, but I remember my 2 year old G1 getting easily 3m lock as soon as i open up the maps inside my room, and navigating with it, was extremely accurate as well. I also never had restart issues with the phone, till after dropping the thing really hard, and then even the restart thing went away.
Today, I'm lucky to get even 40m lock again, on that same leaked updated firmware. My gripe with the samsung vibrant is that there seems to be some sort of hardware problem with the phone and samsung is not saying a thing about it.

I'm telling you guys... don't bother with a swap... I work in a very high volume store and have seen almost every customer come back with GPS issues. We won't even swap them anymore for customers because TMO has listed it as a known issue, and Samsung has announced the firmware update soon... A swap WILL NOT fix the issue, but if you decide to swap it, don't go whining to us our TMO about how you "keep exchanging it and none of them work..." They know this, and YOU know it.

GPS problem cannot be solved via firmware update!

Since I reported the GPS issue to Orange, I have received 2 replacements. This afternoon I updated my SGS to latest JPA firmware and went out to test the GPS. Now I can confirm that the GPS issue cannot be fixed by any kind of software firmware update. I've tested JF1,JF3,JF7,JH3,JPM,JM1,JP3,JPA. I have used GOOGLE MAPS, NDRIVE,IGO MY WAY, COPILOT on all these firmwares. On the 3 SGS I have (an original one from contract upgrade and 2 replacements since I reported the GPS issue to Orange), with all types of firmwares, navigation softwares, none gives stable GPS navigation. There are always 2 issues:
1. accuracy. never stop showing me on a different street.
2. GPS LAG. showed me stay still while I was moving. When turning in a cross, always lag till I passed the cross.
I have contacted Samsung mobile UK to report the GPS performance on latest firmware. This time they have no excuse at all to avoid admitting the GPS problem.
I will also contact Orange for a solution. I will ask for a different phone. Hopefully they have Desire HD. Or I may consider cancelling the contract and leave Orange...
Anyone claims a great GPS improvement after JPA update, if you had poor performance before, please go test it fully, see if you have the same issue I had. If you do, you can join me ask a refund from your retailer.
UPDATE: Just now went out for a little walk, use my tracks to track my movement. Was very surprised! the JPO firmware gives a great improvement. check it here:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=e...53.466879,-2.220461&spn=0.00213,0.006539&z=18
remember this is by walk and i can confirm this is pretty much the way I passed by. During the walk I stayed on the pavement. On Cavanagh Close I went from left side pavement to right side pavement, made a U turn and walked back to Lauderdale Crescent. Note that my end point was on Lauderdale Crescent,not Wilson St. This isn't perfect, but it's a great improvement! The accuracy is the only issue I'm concerned now. Also some reported after 10ish minutes navigation it would lose signal all the sudden. I can't confirm this coz my track only took around 5 mins. Need further test!

Has there been any revision when it comes to the gps hardware or do (should) all, even those straight out the factory now, i9000 have problems?
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Schmich said:
Has there been any revision when it comes to the gps hardware or do (should) all, even those straight out the factory now, i9000 have problems?
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I cannot confirm this yet. All the 3 phones I have are made roughly Q1 2010, base on IMEI information check.

ehe12 said:
I cannot confirm this yet. All the 3 phones I have are made roughly Q1 2010, base on IMEI information check.
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I have a serious question here about the GPS issue. I am really starting to think that this GPS issue is somthing that is being manipulated by specific "carriers" so that if you are a big GPS user you will us the "carrier specific" GPS app like TeleNav.
The reason I wonder this is because as I read the threads I see tht people with "unbranded" phones do not seem to have as much GPS issues as those with branded ones.
As I read the new froyo posts I see that those who have upgraded through Kies "officially" (and there by are unbranded) are reporting that GPS is locking onto 7 - 8 satelites in under 30 seconds and get a PERFECT positioning while those who have used the reg. hack method (and there by are branded) still report that the GPS is horrible.
I may be way off here and dont mean to sound all "conspiracy theory" or anything but this is just my 2 cents. What do you think?

yiannisthegreek said:
I have a serious question here about the GPS issue. I am really starting to think that this GPS issue is somthing that is being manipulated by specific "carriers" so that if you are a big GPS user you will us the "carrier specific" GPS app like TeleNav.
The reason I wonder this is because as I read the threads I see tht people with "unbranded" phones do not seem to have as much GPS issues as those with branded ones.
As I read the new froyo posts I see that those who have upgraded through Kies "officially" (and there by are unbranded) are reporting that GPS is locking onto 7 - 8 satelites in under 30 seconds and get a PERFECT positioning while those who have used the reg. hack method (and there by are branded) still report that the GPS is horrible.
I may be way off here and dont mean to sound all "conspiracy theory" or anything but this is just my 2 cents. What do you think?
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This is a complete guess on my part, but I would think the unbranded phones come off a different line then then branded phones.
Also, the folks reporting their GPS fixed might need to wait a few days to see if it still works. It's happened before where someone reports their GPS working after a flash, to later say it was broken again.

yiannisthegreek said:
I have a serious question here about the GPS issue. I am really starting to think that this GPS issue is somthing that is being manipulated by specific "carriers" so that if you are a big GPS user you will us the "carrier specific" GPS app like TeleNav.
The reason I wonder this is because as I read the threads I see tht people with "unbranded" phones do not seem to have as much GPS issues as those with branded ones.
As I read the new froyo posts I see that those who have upgraded through Kies "officially" (and there by are unbranded) are reporting that GPS is locking onto 7 - 8 satelites in under 30 seconds and get a PERFECT positioning while those who have used the reg. hack method (and there by are branded) still report that the GPS is horrible.
I may be way off here and dont mean to sound all "conspiracy theory" or anything but this is just my 2 cents. What do you think?
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all my 3 phones have no problem in finding satellites,they can find 7-8 satellites within 30 secs outdoor, only the accuracy is a big issue. also during navigation it seemed keep the lock very well, yet the navigation software actually lost signal and started repositioning, then reroute and ask me to turn around again and again.
branded and unbranded? My first 2 phones came without any network brand, no simlock, non branded firmware. I suppose they are unbranded? the final one came with simlock and orange official firmware. they all have the same issue. this means you theory is very doubtable.

crabjoe said:
Also, the folks reporting their GPS fixed might need to wait a few days to see if it still works. It's happened before where someone reports their GPS working after a flash, to later say it was broken again.
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exactly.
Branded or unbranded, luckily I have had both. all the 3 phones have crappy GPS. I doubt that at early producing stage they didn't realise the GPS problem and kept producing for a coupla months, then they found out and made some changes durling later producing. this can explain my case because all the 3 phones are produced on first quarter 2010 (JAN-MAR), the latest ones would have no problem at all.

Its definatly not a crap gps broadcom supplied the chip but its up to the manufacturer to write the drivers. unfortunatly samsung has failed miserably.
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Its definatly not a crap gps broadcom supplied the chip but its up to the manufacturer to write the drivers. unfortunatly samsung has failed miserably.
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I didn't mean crap gps chip, I mean maybe the gps signal is poor due to some crappy design. or maybe you are right, samsung didn't write a proper driver. but i doubt this coz even a crappy little company could have worked out some solution after 6 months. still no luck means it's more than just driver issue.

This GPS thing is simply ridiculous. I can't believe Samsung could launch his top of the line phone with such a bug, and worse of all, I can't believe they haven't been able to solve it several months later.
People reporting the problem fixed with every firmware update, and people reporting the GPS working well when they haven't even tested it properly are also of no help whatsoever for the Galaxy S users and for themselves.
I think we should start complaining massively to Samsung since the phone is definately faulty. I think that'd be the only way we, Galaxy S users would get a properly working GPS.

You drive to slow!!
But you've experienced navigating with your cellphone on other phones before?
Cos i hear nothiong but bad from my nokia costumers about their gps reception and accuracy, ..

compuse said:
You drive to slow!!
But you've experienced navigating with your cellphone on other phones before?
Cos i hear nothiong but bad from my nokia costumers about their gps reception and accuracy, ..
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My old Samsung Omnia GPS works perfectly. Actually I keep that phone on my car since my Galaxy S GPS is completely worthless and able to guide nothing.

Ah good then you must atleast admit that the sgs is way faster on the fix, and the accuracy, .. well, .. it wasn't that noticable on the tomtom, igo8, sygic and stuff available for the windows mobile 6.5.3 or less, right?
The omnia had hickups, for instance; tomtom placed you back about a 50 meter and jumped back again, that's not how navigational software should work.
Even after the omnia you knew that there was something wrong with samsung's idea how a gps should function, you needing to mod or translate the gps with gps-mod, gpsgate or gpsproxy.
So this is really a step forward!

Yeah, the Galaxy is faster at fixing but, accuracy?? As soon as I start moving the damn thing keeps pointing me all over the place. Teletransporting me from one street to the other. The Galaxy GPS is simply a useless joke.
The Omnia's GPS was far from perfect but at least it gets the job done. Maybe Tomtom didn't work properly, but all other navigation softwares I've teste do work properly. Now I use iGo and it guides me flawlessly, even into the city driving thru narrow streets. I WISH THE GALAXY S HAD A GPS AS UNPERFECT AS THE OMNIA!!!
I think it's just pathetic the way the SGS GPS performs, even compared with other presumably flawed GPS like the Omnia one. Wich makes the Galaxy even more pathetic since its GPS can't even compare to other below average old hardware.
Honestly, I don't get it. I don't understand peoplo who defend Samsung on this matter, unless either, they were lucky and got a better phone than those who complain, or unless the work for Samsung and don't dare telling things the way they are.

using google maps on x10 my gps was perfect, quick lock, great accuracy and would hold connection with satellites. x10 wouldn't hold 3g connection for me.which is more important than gps.
sgs doesn't seem to be able to hold its connection with satellites, that's my problem anyway. oh, and when it does hold it seems to "drift" slowly away from my location to other streets. as in car nav its pretty useless!
I'm on jm1 fw from o2, waiting for an update, either 2.2 or a later 2.1.
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You drive to slow!!
But you've experienced navigating with your cellphone on other phones before?
Cos i hear nothiong but bad from my nokia costumers about their gps reception and accuracy, ..
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all my 3 phones have no problem in finding satellites,they can find 7-8 satellites within 30 secs outdoor,.
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Big deal, that's not the issue, the phone still fails to find enough sats in-car or inside buildings and still keeps losing the lock and I've tried four of them now.
And please don't tell me thats normal, because it's not, my HTC Legend gets 10 locks in less then 30s, inside or outside and I don't lose them.

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Big deal, that's not the issue, the phone still fails to find enough sats in-car or inside buildings and still keeps losing the lock and I've tried four of them now.
And please don't tell me thats normal, because it's not, my HTC Legend gets 10 locks in less then 30s, inside or outside and I don't lose them.
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Mmmm, do you have read all the post or do you have stopped right here?

I've had my generic handset since march and can honestly say I have never had any issues whatsoever with gps, I use navigon software and it never skips a beat I've done tons of journeys near and far and I think its absolutely fine.
Over the past weeks I've also changed firmware a few times and currently iam using jpo froyo, the only issue I have had has been with the accuracy of the compass apps but since downloading"travel compass " its been ok.
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I have now installed the free maps from orange on my phone which is part of my plan (generic handset) and did around 60 miles on call out this morning and my gps was pefect as with the navigon software , i wonder if this problem is related to provider handsets and google software or there are lots of faulty handsets out there .
I ran mine side by side with my tom tom 530 this morning and while it wasnt as smooth it was just as accurate .

Im using jpo/jpp on orange uk. Flashed it last week. My gps is excellent locks on very quick and works well with google maps. Its the only software i have flashed that works well gps wise. Locks on quicker than my tom tom. Its a great improvement over the other 2.2 and 2.1 releases official and unofficial.
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This GPS thing is simply ridiculous. I can't believe Samsung could launch his top of the line phone with such a bug, and worse of all, I can't believe they haven't been able to solve it several months later.
People reporting the problem fixed with every firmware update, and people reporting the GPS working well when they haven't even tested it properly are also of no help whatsoever for the Galaxy S users and for themselves.
I think we should start complaining massively to Samsung since the phone is definately faulty. I think that'd be the only way we, Galaxy S users would get a properly working GPS.
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A GPS is supposed to give position and speed when moving, so to test it you'd need to log those two eh?
Some of us here (maybe more elsewhere) have reported their GPS as "Working Well" with track recorded to coroborate the statements. How the hell do you wan to argue with someone that puts the proof in front of your eyes? Are you so blinded by your "hatred" that you can't accept that some SGS might work perfectly well?
Come on now, if you'd realy want some "improvement" with your issue, you'd get some facts and compare them, surely there's a reason why some works and some don't. We need to find THIS reason instead of argueing pointlessly...

Gps not working Whatsoever!!!

so i flashed the full DJ05 package through odin and it worked perfect... after it was done, i tried gps.. and it said initializing without stopping for at least 15 minutes and still no lock, so i flashed D101 through odin and it worked perfect and still no gps lock... what happened???

Had a similar issue after upgrading Maps to 5.0, un-installing maps and re-installing it fixed it for me, also make sure the location services are turned on.
-Mike

From what I heard the dj05 update isnt really a fix for the gps,,,,, just a slight improvement.
The galaxy s phone are garbage in my opinion. Poorly made. Motorola makes the best Android phones hands down. And they support them!

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From what I heard the dj05 update isnt really a fix for the gps,,,,, just a slight improvement.
The galaxy s phone are garbage in my opinion. Poorly made. Motorola makes the best Android phones hands down. And they support them!
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From my experience the galaxy s phones have great hardware, they just have crappy software. The dj05 update helped my gps by a lot, I can get a lock in about 2 seconds. I have seen and used the droid x and the droid 2 and would still rather have the fascinate, huge improvement over my old eris even when it was running 2.2.

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From what I heard the dj05 update isnt really a fix for the gps,,,,, just a slight improvement.
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Then you heard wrong, unless by "slight improvement" you mean that GPS goes from non-functional/useless on DI01 to working fine in DJ05/DL09. The only time that GPS has issues for me is if I turn it on while moving, it takes maybe 20 sec. to get my location then, otherwise, it's better than my old phone by far.
Until you've actually tried it, how about not trolling here?

imnuts i had the fascinate returned it cause i hated it. my friend still has it with the update he says its a slight improvement in the gps area.
Either way the fascinate sux<<< btw thats trolling.

Ok new update on my gps.
I go to maps app... Directions... Type it in press enter... Shows me written directions... Click on the little blue arrow... Shows me driving and the blue arrow is moving in the right direction and what not bit it doesn't stop saying getting driving directions with the rotating blue thing on the left... So I wait and wait and wait............. And nothing!!! I even tried putting an address close to home and nothing!!!!......... Any idea what's going on?
This is also now my only issue with the phone. I tried rebooting and uninstalling and installing it back on.... But nada
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Frenzifun said:
so i flashed the full DJ05 package through odin and it worked perfect... after it was done, i tried gps.. and it said initializing without stopping for at least 15 minutes and still no lock, so i flashed D101 through odin and it worked perfect and still no gps lock... what happened???
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Did you flash the DJ05 MODEM in additition to the rom? Just have to ask.

Well, to the know it all Bigboinkers above, DI01 was not downloading ephemeris data like it was supposed to, which is instrumental to GPS locks on phones.
DJ05 does, and so does DL09. They lock quite quickly.
So stop making BS up, kthx.

BigBonkers said:
From what I heard the dj05 update isnt really a fix for the gps,,,,, just a slight improvement.
The galaxy s phone are garbage in my opinion. Poorly made. Motorola makes the best Android phones hands down. And they support them!
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i will argue that your statement is incorrect, my GPS is perfect after i Flashed DJ05.
and it would not lock at all prior to flashing...
and as for motorola... the last good phone they made was the startac.

I flashed the package through odin... Its one file blahblah.tar
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If you still have not found a solution, it very well may be a hardware problem. I would try everything again, and if that doesn't work, I would get a replacement.
And to the troll, go away. If you don't have a Fascinate, you don't belong here.
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i flashed both Dl01 and DJ05 again... and still nothing... i cant get my phone to root now either ... =\ but yeah even stock on DJ05 gps is showing no navi...fml

My questions to "communicate-with-samsung"

Thought i'd post these here. Others can post theres as well. If I get any answers I'll post those here also.
1. Are there plans to fix the gps issues on the epic? Or is it simply hardware related?
2. Why did samsung choose the rfs file system?
3. What is Samsung's corporate position on open-source software development?
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I have a question for you and other members. What exactly is the gps issue? Mine works perfectly on my epic on 2.1 and 2.2.1
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rgregg504 said:
I have a question for you and other members. What exactly is the gps issue? Mine works perfectly on my epic on 2.1 and 2.2.1
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Some people have gps issues such as accuracy i believe. some don't

Oh ok thanx just curious because me and my wife both have the epic and both are fine.
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I have a problem where the gps doesn't lock at random. Usually a battery pull clears the problem. Accuracy is usually within 30 feet or so.
Rfs? It was the thing they had at the time. On new phones they are using ext4.

Supposedly 2.2.1 official on Monday will address GPS.... we will see... not sure the point of that Q&A at this time (the next few days) as we have yet to see what they listened to for the build they are dropping in a few days. I honestly think he wants our input on matters other than software/hardware complaints that are well known. I think that will be useful if everyone is contented with the 2.2.1 release, Its not a bad thing to have a suggestion box, IF the issues are addressed somewhat promptly...

I asked:
Does Samsung intend to address the hardware keyboard issue that causes the phone to miss keystrokes?
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one other question that I completely forgot.
Edit: strike that, just remembered.
Is Samsung going to offer firmware updates for the Camera which is available in the settings menu of the leaked 2.2 rom??

rgregg504 said:
I have a question for you and other members. What exactly is the gps issue? Mine works perfectly on my epic on 2.1 and 2.2.1
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Gps locks fine and quickly, but then loses lock after 5-15 minutes. You have to manually turn the gps on and off again to get it to re lock.
And I asked because it was supposed to be addressed in an update that came our months ago but still happens for a lot of us.

aleph23 said:
Gps locks fine and quickly, but then loses lock after 5-15 minutes. You have to manually turn the gps on and off again to get it to re lock.
And I asked because it was supposed to be addressed in an update that came our months ago but still happens for a lot of us.
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Dont forget you cant lock GPS with wifi or 4g on.

Well there must be enough wrong with GPS for them to mention it as one of the main features of the udpate to happen monday... hopefully they will fix your issues, I have got my GPS to 2 meters on DK28, but actually have yet to leave it on for an extended period of time, dont really use Nav, I know my city from jobs... and dont really like leaving that on, Ive disabled it since they first came in phones... tinfoil hat and all...
HW Keyboard!!! If it does not improve, I will take it in for service. I got a replacement like Jan 3, for my OG that I had since launch week, and aside from the screen fail, my original never dropped keys... not that I can remember... it also seems to be getting worse, and since January I have not gotten that much faster at typing on it to make a difference that way... but I HOPE its software... else I may end up with another TEP claim.

muyoso said:
Dont forget you cant lock GPS with wifi or 4g on.
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I lock with wifi on.

My question is what is samsung's plans for future os updates for the epic?
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From the sound of it, Svetius at captivate says that xda will be filtering the questions before they go to Sammy.
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I can probably easily tell you how they will answer it or at least summarize it..
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1. Are there plans to fix the gps issues on the epic? Or is it simply hardware related?
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We are working hard to isolate and fix this issue..
2. Why did samsung choose the rfs file system?
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We chose RFS for its reliability (they made RFS themselves they are not going to say any bad about it)
3. What is Samsung's corporate position on open-source software development?
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Samsung is committed to open source
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Those will be your answers..in a fancier manner..
As for GPS locking , I lock just fine..I noticed Google Maps gets stuck here and there but if I use any other software there is no issue...

aleph23 said:
I lock with wifi on.
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Generally not for long. Leave WiFi on for 2 days, without ever shutting it off. Then try getting a lock. Promise you won't be able to.

I've never had problems locking on to GPS
The problem that I share with many others is that the GPS will randomly stop connecting with satellites after 10-20 minutes of use. Sometimes a lot sooner than that. It'll reconnect after about 2 minutes, but its really annoying when you're using google nav.
I've tried using GPS status and I can see that it has a great signal, but it won't connect to a couple of sats at random times. Very buggy.

AFTER the update, if it happens, those with GPS issues should get an ALL GPS thread like the 2.2 one... it seems like a real clusterfuk as it stands, and theres no clear proof that its software, or a crappy GPS radio, and thats the end of the story. After the update, which claims to address GPS, those with GPS issues need to compare notes, and figure out as best as possible what is hardware limitation, what is software, what is user error. As stated above, other software besides google maps should be tried as well, in case there is something weird happening with that... I dont use GPS much, so I wonder why this issue keeps popping up so much, and people dont collaborate enough on solving the issue. After that best GPS fix ever thread popped up, I Odin'ed to DI18, and did all the steps, even considered going to DG27 or whatever to be extra retentive, but once I got all the way up to my rooted, rom'd setup, got 2 meters, or maybe 1... thats all I bothered with. I understand those that use their epics as a tom-tom need much higher standards of connectivity.... hopefully you wont be disappointed.

I hope so too. I work at several different locations and user the phone as nav. Gps locks fine, just loses lock soon enough, often at critical times...
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