If so. Why did you come over to the fascinate? I owned one right when it came out but the signal at my work was bad where my x has a great signal. I never had the update so I was wondering how the signal is now? And im not happy with my x batterylife. Is the fascinate better or worse on battery life? I miss the fascinate...my x just does not seem as fast....
The signal issue also seems to be fixed in the upcoming DJ05 update. If u thought the fascinate was fast then, mi e seems like a new phone e with DJ05
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I purchased my phone from Costco, which gives you the ability to swap your phone for three months, so I had the fascinate for a few weeks, tried the droid x, and ultimately ended up with the fascinate. The droid x wasn't that bad until it recieved the 2.2 update. Then the wifi started cycling on and off, which is a known issue, and honestly the ui additions just make it harder to do things in comparison to stock android. I know what you're saying in terms of signal strength, it seems the DX was able to get better reception, but I haven't dropped a call with the fascinate. I haven't been able to try the update yet (if someone is feeling generous please help) but apparently, it helps to even out the signal reading. The only things that I miss about the DX are the much better gps, which is supposedly now fixed, the ability to set alert alarms in calender, which is supposedly now fixed, and the volume of turn by turn navigation, which I don't know if it has been fixed. The DX's washed out lcd was a turn off, also, the gpu is substantially weaker, and with the rumors coming down the pike of either gingerbread or honeycomb allowing gpu acceleration, I wanted to futureproof myself as much as possible. Just my thought process. I hope it helps you.
I had 2 dx's before i got the fascinate. I had wifi issues with both dx's , plus a ton of other glitches that i could no longer stand. Fascinate is an awesome device.
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great info guys..
but how about the battery life compared to the X?
I didn't have the DX, but I expect to charge my battery every day or every other day, and that's pretty much what I've been doing now that my usage has become more regular. I could probably get 2 full days out of it if I charged it all night and unplugged it in the morning, but I usually unplug it at night and just go through the day.
With the StupidFast kernel, my battery life is crap, but without it I've gone 65 hours with moderate usage. That's pretty good.
I came from DX and i miss it it was so fast and with grate signal
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i came from the dx , wouldnt go back . DX was a great phone , but im hitting higher quadrant scores running stupidfast kernal on my fascinate than i was overclocked to 1.4ghz on my dx . and battery life is great if you get the superpower app.
...and the screen is amazing haha
Battery life on the DX stock is a little better than a stock fascinate (at least in my area, where I can actually roam off of verizon's 1x network and there is only 1 3G tower in town), but you can reflash the fascinate kernel and/or change the software to make it last much much longer. The short of it is that the battery life for either device is dependent on what you do with it and what apps/widgets you have running at all times. From a technical standpoint, the fascinate battery can carry more of a charge, but from talk time numbers alone, the DX battery will last longer. Again, that is only for bone stock handsets running android 2.1
I had the Droid X
Pros: Screen Size
Battery Life was Great for Me!
Build Quality was the best!
Signal was the best of any droid Ive had!
GPS was Amazing and Fast!!
Cons:Size it was to big for me
Camera was horrible and I hate the button
Now I came to the fascinate because of size, screen beauty, capactive keys at bottom, weight super light (trade off is its made of plastic), faster CPU, better GPU for future games (as of now i feel theres no good ones)...but madden soon!!
Now i said faster CPU but because of touchwiz.....it will feel slower!!! But thats because of touchwiz not the phone!!
touchwiz sux ass......and not untill froyo will you be able to trully disable it and install a true rom. Devs prefer to work on froyo.
But i know a few guys are porting sense over to it!!!! But you can use launcher pro as of now which I love.
All around the galaxy s phones are better........but get ready for sloooooowwww support!!!
I have had all the Droid phones for Verizon and I just feel that the size of the Fascinate is the sweet spot for me.... kinda like goldilocks. Not too big, not too small, just right. lol
I like the hardware on the Fascinate... it has sooooo much potential we just have to get the software to make it right!
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With the StupidFast kernel, my battery life is crap, but without it I've gone 65 hours with moderate usage. That's pretty good.
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And when you mean moderate you mean not at all right ????
Seriously, thats sick. I wish any phone of mine could last more than a day, let alone 2.
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With the StupidFast kernel, my battery life is crap, but without it I've gone 65 hours with moderate usage. That's pretty good.
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Did you try the solutions found in the Stupidfast 1.2.3 thread ????
They really worked for me, and quite a few others.
As I've said a million times Dj05 update that is in the pipeline for xda is a huge bugfixers my phone is far more faster and fluid than my old x ever thought about being.
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i went from the droid 2 and i prefer the screen size, it is just right like a lot of people are saying. only thing i would really have to consider if i was you was the software issue... samsung has a terrible rep and they are kinda living up to it w/ this device.. i hate to say it but we are following the same path as the behold 2 right now..
where as the droid x there is absolutely no doubt that you will see gingerbread and possibly beyond..
well i had X for about 2 months then with all the locked bootloader issues and moto update probs I decide to try the fascinate and it has been great, with the new DJ05 update its even better. still have X but selling to get Galaxy tab
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i havent updated yet...... but i have a feeling even in the official froyo update its gonna fall short...... fps hasent been fixed..... looks like the same interface just tweak slightly..... and slighly faster performance from apps............ i think CM6 is looking way better......
Opinions??
With the new wimax update, its world better. More than double the downlink. Getting near ten mbps in Atlanta.
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Froyo runs 6-8x faster, if nothing else that seems like a pretty good upgrade right there.
I don't think it was supposed to be a momentous upgrade
The devs are taking care of the rest!
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With the new wimax update, its world better. More than double the downlink. Getting near ten mbps in Atlanta.
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Good to year cuz I could not get more than 7 mbps and that was only once late at night here in burbs of Chicago with full bars in certain areas usually where Im at I barely get signal at all. So Hopefully the range is better too. How about WiFi range, any better?
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i havent updated yet...... but i have a feeling even in the official froyo update its gonna fall short...... fps hasent been fixed..... looks like the same interface just tweak slightly..... and slighly faster performance from apps............ i think CM6 is looking way better......
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dont upgrade then its pretty simple 2.2 is blazing fast for me im happy
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i havent updated yet...... but i have a feeling even in the official froyo update its gonna fall short...... fps hasent been fixed..... looks like the same interface just tweak slightly..... and slighly faster performance from apps............ i think CM6 is looking way better......
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Sorry what?
I call troll shenanigans.
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Disappointment is what follows when you over excite yourself about something. The wait is more satisfying than the arrival. Think of it like a caffeine crash.
It's the already fantastic EVO, just better. What's there to be disappointed with?
the battery last longer?
The new speed is great, but I also think this update ain't what it could of been. I guess I just expected more, but I'm coming from a Palm PRE so I'm good.
This still isn't the 'official' HTC update. Sure it was found on their website but who's to say they don't change anything before they roll it out next week?
Of course CM6 looks better! AOSP will always own Sense.
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I don't have any complaints with it really. I happen to like Sense, 40 on linpack... FPS fix is the only ***** I have.
Why not wait until next weekend to start a thread like this? The real update hasn't even been massed released yet
I'm using Ava, which is about the closest we're going to get to a rooted stock 2.2, and here are my thoughts, so far:
-Seems to be roughly the same battery life as Baked Snack.
-Camera seems to be able to take better pictures.
-I have noticed a noticeable, if slight, improvement in overall performance.
-MAJOR improvement in signal reception, latency, and throughput: WiFi, 3G, and 4G.
-Some apps that worked fine in Eclair are FC'ing in Froyo, especially ones that require root/SuperUser.
-I really really really miss the Netarchy FPS MOD. The animations aren't anywhere near as fluid without it.
-FB contacts are syncing properly.
Pretty sure that's it, for now. Gonna keep working and report back, as I'm sure many others will also.
And as I was reading that back, I realized there is already a stock rooted ROM. Whoops. *facepalm*
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-I really really really miss the Netarchy FPS MOD. The animations aren't anywhere near as fluid without it.
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Did you try installing the netarchy kernel that is for Froyo? There are two different one in the dev forum.
Anyone else dissapointed that the new 2012 ferrari enzo can't fly? I havnt seen it nor test driven it yet, but Im dissapointed it can't fly.
Just playin but seriously test the update out before you open dissapointed threads
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Well I really am disappointed. I have 2 Nexus Ones in the house and I got my update first. The speed difference was more than noticeable. When I was updating my boyfriends phone later that night, it felt like I was using a sluggish G1. Then there were all the other goodies that came with it.
Since I updated the EVO, I haven't noticed anything really, unless you count the excess bloatware they added unnecessarily. I have to say, I am really not liking Sense at all.
So there are a lot of people complaining about their phones, but I'm trying to get a quantitative sense of how people feel.
While I agree there are areas that need to be improved (GPS is about the only one for me), I'm pretty satisfied overall.
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Third option should read "Somewhat satisfied - have multiple issues or complaints" rather than "multiply".
Rooted, Removed Bloat, Better Rom, Better Baseband and I'm set.
Rather happy now.
rooted, bloat removed, eugene's rom, I'm happy. I would recommend the phone to family and friends.
PS.....where is the poll?
Updated with poll.
I love my Galaxy S Vibrant, the only thing I hate about it is the GPS and compass, hopefully a update will fix these issues.
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I'am really happy with the vibrant, i switch phone like 4-6 months once, and this phone, really stand out from what i had used for past 3 years.
I'm happy with the phone. Way better than the G1 and it'll last me until it dies. The next phone I will be getting is a quad-core processor phone. ;p
Gps is no long issue after applying fix. I use nav all the time now. Screen is still amazing to me, I watch alot of movies on it. Never been happier with a phone. Cant wait till 2.2 comes out to make a great thing better.
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This replaced my nexus and have no regrets whats so ever.
Only complaint is the compass but from what ive read its fixed in leaked rom so im sure its going to be fine in next update.
No issues with GPS since I have the gps fix with stock rom.
Once I got rid of TouchWiz the only complaint I have is the lack of ASOP but I am not a coder so there is nothing I can do about that but wait.
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Rooted, Removed Bloat, Better Rom, Better Baseband and I'm set.
Rather happy now.
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Which baseband would that be? Just curious to see if I can improve mine, its choppy at times.
Now I use the lag fix & did the Gps lbstest thing but seems no big improvement, any pointers?
One more thing, why does the pole not show in the XDA app??
Stunner phone indeed!!
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Fully satisfied after flasing Bionix 1.3 ROM with voodoo lagfix and battery status indicator mod. The phone cannot be more perfect for 2.1. It will go to the next level if satsifaction when 2.2 comes out (mainly flash 10.1 support).
Can someone just post breifly what ASOP is?
lightyears faster than my old wm6.5 omnia II, Android just obliterates wm. GPS works alright, haven't tried compass. On my Omnia II, i had a new custom rom every couple weeks, but without recovery mode on my Vibrant, i'm a little reluctant to install one...
Hi all, newcomer here, thought i should finally say hi.
Love my vibrant. Its my first andriod phone, had a lot to learn to get up to speed, but I'm getting there. I have been trolling these forums for about a month or so, flashing this and that, trying to figure out adb, and working out odin. I was one of those anti-smartphone people, now I can barely put this down. I'm currently running bionix 1.3 with kingklicks kernel, and a few other mods. My thanks to the devs out there working on these roms and mods, keep up the great work!
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I like my Vibrant. I am somewhat disappointed with the battery life. I really rely on GPS so I'm very unhappy in that regard. My overall rating is 3 out of a possible 5 based on what I expect from my phone.
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I really do love this phone. It's elegant, lightweight, gives me more battery life than my G1 ever did, and does nearly everything I want it to do. I'd be completely satisfied if it would get some bug fixes so it could do everything I want it to do, but that's not really the phone's fault.
Love the phone...I just want up dates
I am really happy. I have a couple of complaints, though. Nothing major.
Rooted >> Removed bloatware >> Leaked update = Me happy.
I will be 99.9% happy when Froyo comes. But I can wait.
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I am really happy. I have a couple of complaints, though. Nothing major.
Rooted >> Removed bloatware >> Leaked update = Me happy.
I will be 99.9% happy when Froyo comes. But I can wait.
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I voted for very satfisfied but the truth is I'm pretty much completely satisfied. The battery could be a little bit better, but for the amount I use my phone I think I'd have battery issues with any similarly spec'd phone.
Has it's quirks here and there but seriously what phone doesn't? Nothing to make me change phones or anything like that. Very satisfied and content with my Vibrant.
Hey guys,
First off, I don't post much on here, but have been doing alot of reading to stay "up-to-date". Yesterday, I just got the Nexus S 4G through Sprint cuz my Epic 4G took a crap and they were backordered so I said sure to the Nexus S.
I spent most the day yesterday looking for ROMs for it and found out about ICS and got all excited for that. So, after looking around I decided on Crossbones 0.1.3 ICS. Overall, I'm liking it but after using it for about a day now, I am noticing the battery life (in comparison to my Epic, which ran the current Legendary ROM with the Samurai Kernel) is HORRIBLE. I don't want to be quick to say it's the phone, ROM, or ICS though. Maybe there's a different way of closing out unused apps that I don't know about? I did just find that you can swipe away unused recent apps. Will that help?
Basically, for a ROM, I look for stability, battery life, speed, and looks. In that order. In GB, I always used Launcher Pro, btw.
So, my question is for those that use or used Crossbones, what are your experiences so far? Also, if it's recommended that I go back to GB for awhile until things get a lil better on ICS (I heard its coming OTA soon), which ROM are people liking? With ICS out now, searching for a good GB ROM has become a lil difficult. So far I read about MUIU (or whatever it is) and CM7, which my gf has on her Dinc2 and her Nook Color. I'm kinda "eh" about CM7. It "just works" imo and I think that's what they are going for. Def not a fan of the looks though. I also miss my power options in my notification pull down too.
PS-
That and I can't get Facebook to add to my account sync. When I go to add it, it does it, goes back to the accounts screen, but its not there. Very strange. Ok, gonna shut up now. this is long enough. lol Thanks in advance.
I've had my Nexus S for a couple of weeks now, I put the stock ICS ROM on the first day and during this time my battery has significantly improved. There are probably three reasons for this, but perhaps not all will apply to you?
1) I've stopped turning everything on, all of the time and constantly tweaking / fiddling / admiring the AMOLED.
2) I've refined how the device uses battery (logged out of Google+).
3) The battery has matured a little.
There's another side effect...
4) I've stopped worrying about the battery so much as I get a day of use from it.
Ice Cream Sandwich and ROMs using it are gonna improve in time. Gingerbread has been out for a year or so and has all this development. So from this there's a lot of potential from ICS...
I'm going to keep my device running the standard ROM for the time being as it's my daily driver, but wanting a device to potentially brick and hack. Thinking about the Galaxy S.
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I've had my Nexus S for a couple of weeks now, I put the stock ICS ROM on the first day and during this time my battery has significantly improved. There are probably three reasons for this, but perhaps not all will apply to you?
1) I've stopped turning everything on, all of the time and constantly tweaking / fiddling / admiring the AMOLED.
2) I've refined how the device uses battery (logged out of Google+).
3) The battery has matured a little.
There's another side effect...
4) I've stopped worrying about the battery so much as I get a day of use from it.
Ice Cream Sandwich and ROMs using it are gonna improve in time. Gingerbread has been out for a year or so and has all this development. So from this there's a lot of potential from ICS...
I'm going to keep my device running the standard ROM for the time being as it's my daily driver, but wanting a device to potentially brick and hack. Thinking about the Galaxy S.
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Thanks for the reply. So far in terms of battery saving tricks, I've disabled animations, the screen is set to about 1/4 brightness, only thing that constantly does anything is k9
mail to check my inbox every 15 mins (that I'm aware of lol). So it could be that my battery needs to "mature"? Btw, are there any good themes out yet? I miss my transparent text msg threads and I really miss my power controls on the notification pull down. I'm def not digging the white on the contacts and SMS screens. Lol
::BUMP:: Seriously? No one else?
Well is was getting bad battery and weird force closes on cross bones, i'm on vhgomex(thinks that's right), it's been a lot better for me and it has the notification power widget in it
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Well is was getting bad battery and weird force closes on cross bones, i'm on vhgomex(thinks that's right), it's been a lot better for me and it has the notification power widget in it
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I havent had any issues with the rom running or any FCs... Took a look at gomez. Gonna do a nandroid and give it try. Looks promising, and FB sync is supposed to work. lol
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::BUMP:: Seriously? No one else?
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I think you're not getting many answers because your issues have already been addressed. A simple search will find many (most) ROMs with notification toggles and Facebook sync. I personally recommend AOKP.
I'd say it's just the rom. I'm on an ICS rom, everything works great and I have significantly better battery life than before.
I'm on AndroidME with Eugene's speedy-3 kernel. I don't have Facebook sync and power toggles in notification though, but I don't really care for those two features anyway.
Well I'm on Gomez now. Things already seem to be better. Absolutely no issues so far. I'll know for sure in a day or so.
Well I uninstall bloat.sys apps I don't use with root uninstaller
As for Bette battery life. Honestly think. What could someone do to the phone to put out better battery life. Almost nothing but SBC kernels and the CPU speed and goveners. That's it.
Most of you guys don't have battery issues you just play with your phone all day instead of doing your work.
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Well I uninstall bloat.sys apps I don't use with root uninstaller
As for Bette battery life. Honestly think. What could someone do to the phone to put out better battery life. Almost nothing but SBC kernels and the CPU speed and goveners. That's it.
Most of you guys don't have battery issues you just play with your phone all day instead of doing your work.
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A: that was fairly rude. I'm legitimately asking for help and advice. I didn't make the thread to be judged or ridiculed on my phone usage. I don't judge others on how they use they're phone, so why should I be?
B: I'm comparing this all with my epic. I don't over clock or mess with the CPU settings cuz that's beyond my knowledge atm. Like I said, battery seems MUCH better now with this rom . Now my only gripe is volume. Way quieter on this phone which seems to be a known issue. Trying out volume+ soon. Also, at the end of my day, I'll post my battery stats and see what you guys think. But like I said, I think its OK now.
Im on bigxie's rom and icup kernel im getting great battery life with this but thats just me.i dont know whats great for you.try this rom its somewhat minimalist or pure stock with just statusbar widgets and other features.no 'omg' tweaks that cause more harm than good.and it has trebuchet which is perfectly put into the mix.im satisfied with this .been with this rom since build 1 and ive been happy with its consistency.no bugs encountered
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Im on bigxie's rom and icup kernel im getting great battery life with this but thats just me.i dont know whats great for you.try this rom its somewhat minimalist or pure stock with just statusbar widgets and other features.no 'omg' tweaks that cause more harm than good.and it has trebuchet which is perfectly put into the mix.im satisfied with this .been with this rom since build 1 and ive been happy with its consistency.no bugs encountered
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Thanks for the opinion. I'll keep that one in mind if this doesn't work out. Sounds a lot like Gomez. Gomez has basically just what you listed. I'd def take stability over extra crap. Lol
Sry for the double post,but to report back, totally forgot to post my battery stats, but they were definitely better. By far. Still not much luck on the sound tho. Got an app the boosts my media volume but my ringer wasn't affected, which sucks. Anything on this that I haven't possibly found?
I'm going back to CM7. 7.2 is out and honesty its just more optimized for this device. CM optimizes their ROMs to very fast high standards and do stuff a lot of you newbies can't even think of. (Yes, these will be implemented in BESTROM.)
So I'm going back. To smoothness.
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I'm going back to CM7. 7.2 is out and honesty its just more optimized for this device. CM optimizes their ROMs to very fast high standards and do stuff a lot of you newbies can't even think of. (Yes, these will be implemented in BESTROM.)
So I'm going back. To smoothness.
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You really shouldn't be so rude and demean other members of this forum like that. Frankly, no one cares if you're going back to CM7 or not. But thank you for your belittling feedback.
To the original poster, I'm running Pete Alfonso's nightlies along with Mathkid's Matrix CFS kernel. With a bit of overclock and tweaking of the kernel settings, I get great smoothness, stability, and decent battery life. To me, any battery life that gets me from "up in the morning" to "home at night" is fine, because I have my charger at my desk. But typically, I can survive a full 24 hours on one charge.
Who knows, though. Maybe I'm just too much of a newbie to realize the full potential of what my device can do and therefore it's my fault that the battery life is as good as it is.
Hey! I've just recently switched to my Galaxy Nexus, but was a Crespo owner since it came out. Been reading your post but I would agree that you should try out the AOKP rom along with a custom undervolted kernel for longer battery life.
I haven't really tinkered with my Nexus S in awhile (I gave it to my gf when I got the Galaxy Nexus) but the last thing I remembered was either installing aokp or cm9. In due time the custom ics roms will improve and the power widgets in the notification bar will be brought back, but they usually want to focus on stability then add new features little by little. Hope you are having fun your Crespo!
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So far I'm still rocking gomez's. Really loving the battery life. Only issue I've had is 3g doesn't always come back after using wifi. Not a big deal tho I guess. Really stable too. I was thinking of using mathkidskernel but don't wanna possibly screw up what I got now. I'm backed up so maybe one of these days. Heard alotof good things about mathkids kernel. Heard good things about aopk too, so that's my other go to. Lol
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You really shouldn't be so rude and demean other members of this forum like that. Frankly, no one cares if you're going back to CM7 or not. But thank you for your belittling feedback.
To the original poster, I'm running Pete Alfonso's nightlies along with Mathkid's Matrix CFS kernel. With a bit of overclock and tweaking of the kernel settings, I get great smoothness, stability, and decent battery life. To me, any battery life that gets me from "up in the morning" to "home at night" is fine, because I have my charger at my desk. But typically, I can survive a full 24 hours on one charge.
Who knows, though. Maybe I'm just too much of a newbie to realize the full potential of what my device can do and therefore it's my fault that the battery life is as good as it is.
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sorry if that was rude but you have to take in count that
I myself is using modified CM7.1RC0AOSP2.3.7GB as base. But far as CM9AOSP4.0.3ICS goes its still not ready for folks like me for DD yet.
As I described below how extensively its optimized and most of it is outside the scope of current XDA.
What you have to understand is performance is not measured via synthetic benchmarks (ex: Quadrant). The biggest issue with people is that they don't know enough to know that they don't know, so they compare it with silly numbers (ex: score) they can't comprehend what they see, much less put numbers behind real life activities that's not applicable in controlled environment.
OS development which eliminates most of it but on software level custom base rom (ex: CyanogenMod) is highly optimized and tweaked to run on optimal performance. Mostly, but not all. But does it mean it can't be tweaked any further? (Rhetorical) No. How do I know? We (scope outside of XDA) tweaked it to the next level. How you ask?
1) Optimized ext4fs: reduced r/w rate (healthy NAND lifespan), improved journaling (corrupted data writeback integrity) = Which improves the IOPs and performance access rate.
2) HC3.x fugu binaries, patched sqlite libraries, mSD read ahead buffer fix.
3) Modified VM: OOM (Out Of Memory), LMK (Low Memory Killer), VM heap (Virtual Machine), DRA (Dirty Ratio), DBR (Dirty Background Ratio), DWC (Dirty Writeback Centisecs), DEC (Dirty Expired Centisecs), SWP (Swap), VCP (VFS Cache Pressure).
4) Increased minfree value: Background, Foreground, Empty, Hidden, Visible, Secondary, Content.
5) Optimized cache: File and Drop cache, Forced cache (resident loop).
6) Custom kernel: OC/UC, UV/SVS/VDD, BFS/CFS, RSU/NP/VR/SP supported.
7) Custom ROM: Optimized Rom script and props (ex: CyanogenMod).
this as its tweaked to THE next level. I'll stick with AOSP2.3.7GB until ICS4.X is more stable and we understand more as most memory grouping and adjustments might be changed.
I bet most of you only do 2 of those thing (6&7)
i suggest you try androiduser aosp rom with icup kernel. you dont have to do anything else and with normal usage you'll get 24+ hours
So a few days ago I realized I just can't use JB as a daily driver. I *love* 4.x and am a big fan of almost every change introduced, so I've been using ICS and later JB builds as soon as builds were available (thanks, devs!). But on the DZ it just ain't cutting it. I haven't had a single day without freezes, spontaneous reboots, unbearable slowdowns, graphic glitches etc.
Well I'm back to ILWT CM7, which I haven't used for about 11 months. I've frozen almost every stock app, and have found a usable Holo-style replacement for almost all of them, except for the Browser and the hideous pre-ICS Calendar (any suggestions?). Also every 3rd party SMS app is so bloated.
So far, what I miss:
- I really miss pulling down the status bar in the lockscreen! But that requires a 3rd-party lockscreen replacement which is a huge PITA. Also no 4.x unified lockscreen music controls.
- 4.x Rich Notifications. I added music controls in the CM7 notification power widget, but it's a pretty crappy solution (reminds me of iOS)
- JB makes scrolling in apps (among other things) smoother, and some things were considerably more "fluid". JB wasn't *that* smooth anyhow, at least on the DZ.
- 2.x interface is hideous, "fixed" with ICS Mixer theme, Holo-styled apps and a font change.
- Overall UI polish degradations and papercuts, like the power menu, the loss of holo action bar and the ugly old icons of app menu options.
- Some newer apps don't support 2.x which sucks.
- Tons of 4.x improvements I didn't mention. ICS and JB are such vast improvements from GB. JB is so much more consistent, and it sucks that htc are assholes and dropped support for DZ and DHD.
What's better:
- Much more stable.
- Faster!
- Can actually multitask now because there's no need for the OS to constantly kill things in the background. lol at Titanium constantly getting killed in the background on JB.
- Better battery life.
- The proper drivers mean some apps work here but not in 4.x. For example, any app that uses the phone as a webcam.
So anyone else back on Gingerbread and can share their experience?
Most of the time im running a gingerbread rom. Never get the freezes you are talking about on any 4.x rom in 6 months or so, are you sure you had all partitions in ext4?
I do agree battery life is much lower than in 2.3.x and thats one of the main reasons i tend to stick with them. The ui is much better with 4.x but id rather have an ugly ui then a phone that isnt 100%
Overall ics and somewhat jb has been proven to be running almost perfect on the vision and right now im on an ics (a sense rom which i usualy hate!) But there are just too many things dragging me back to gingerbread, battery life being the biggest issue as im a heavy user
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Most of the time im running a gingerbread rom. Never get the freezes you are talking about on any 4.x rom in 6 months or so, are you sure you had all partitions in ext4?
I do agree battery life is much lower than in 2.3.x and thats one of the main reasons i tend to stick with them. The ui is much better with 4.x but id rather have an ugly ui then a phone that isnt 100%
Overall ics and somewhat jb has been proven to be running almost perfect on the vision and right now im on an ics (a sense rom which i usualy hate!) But there are just too many things dragging me back to gingerbread, battery life being the biggest issue as im a heavy user
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I have to say the battery life on the newest Andromadous JB test builds are amazing and much better than GB. I even have the CPU governor set the minimum to 800 MHz with maximum to 1500 Mhz and I can still run a full day without recharging (I do quite a bit of web browsing on my G2 and occasional calls).
Possibly between some gb roms it is better but the best battery life that i consistantly get is with elitemodcm7 and ilwtcm7, with heavy use i can get through a full day 18+ hours every time. If i use a little less on some of the ics roms i can get close but not always (elitemod cm9 kernel with mimicry seems to be the best battery life) i poor life on old jb test builds that slowy got a little better, have tried a build since around 90 something but im sure ill test again soon.
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Possibly between some gb roms it is better but the best battery life that i consistantly get is with elitemodcm7 and ilwtcm7, with heavy use i can get through a full day 18+ hours every time. If i use a little less on some of the ics roms i can get close but not always (elitemod cm9 kernel with mimicry seems to be the best battery life) i poor life on old jb test builds that slowy got a little better, have tried a build since around 90 something but im sure ill test again soon.
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Yeah, definitely try the new test builds, I was really amazed at the big difference in battery life in the newest builds.
euhh, its not beacause of your DZ.
- On the galaxy sII, MOST of the ICS and JB roms are not smooth at all. Lot of crashes , etc. Even on the official update.
- on galaxy note, same thing. Looks like stock JB run better anyway, good thing.
- on nexus S it is the worst since the last JB update.
- on desire ( one of the most supported device) , lot of crashes with ICS.
- And I dont tell you about the milestone (very old device)...
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All the phones mentionned above, are running GB right now.
They not all mine, most of them are my friends phone, they ask me to root it to try new roms. All of them complaining about ICS/JB stability.
I didnt try the big ass phones like the sIII, but they are so powerfull that you can't feel any slowdown.
Thanks for that info, overdose. I've been wondering how other phones with more dev support were handling JB. Here's hoping with the new Nexus phones soon we can finally have a device that handles stock Android decently.
I've ran into an old CM7 bug with the Lense lockscreen... basically what happens is that, for some reason, the software thinks pulling down the Lense should launch a custom app instead of unlocking the device. Since I didn't have any custom app defined, pulling down does nothing and there is no way to unlock the device
So I have to fix it with adb which is pretty pathetic. Ironically I'm typing this from a restored Jelly Bean ROM.
edit: I got it fixed, and in the process dropped my phone and severely cracked the screen. Hahaha. Oh well DZ we had a good run.
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Thanks for that info, overdose. I've been wondering how other phones with more dev support were handling JB. Here's hoping with the new Nexus phones soon we can finally have a device that handles stock Android decently.
I've ran into an old CM7 bug with the Lense lockscreen... basically what happens is that, for some reason, the software thinks pulling down the Lense should launch a custom app instead of unlocking the device. Since I didn't have any custom app defined, pulling down does nothing and there is no way to unlock the device
So I have to fix it with adb which is pretty pathetic. Ironically I'm typing this from a restored Jelly Bean ROM.
edit: I got it fixed, and in the process dropped my phone and severely cracked the screen. Hahaha. Oh well DZ we had a good run.
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DZ screen are cheap.
I have 2 in stock just in case, with the HTC logo. I paid them 30 $ ea. a year ago .
I don't have a desire z but a nexus one and did have 2 regular desires before (my ex gf had ICS spazedog ROM - working pretty good) now I'm running spazedog jellybean rom on the n1 and its smooth than cm was maybe a bit slower to open apps but no real lag or freeze or reboots after a couple weeks. Only problem is no video camera and had to install an app from play store to take pictures without a soft reboot and still the pictures don't look great. That and can't play YouTube videos in app or browser or its reboots. Other than that its pretty reliable and the desire z should be a slightly better phone. Maybe something else causing the issues?
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Everyone use their phone differently, I agree with much of what you are saying but I highly disagree with bettery battery life on 4.x compared with 2.x, no matter how much you tweak or change things the best roms (for battery life) on 4.x have never been able to compete with the best 2.x in that regard. I will say that the improvment have been incredible over the past 6 months or so, but I'm a heavy user, and maybe its the way I use my phone that runs the battery fast but I easily can get a day with 2.x (about 6hours screen on) and I'm always struggling even with the best 4.x to do the same, (max maybe 4~4.5hrs screen up)
But again, we all use our phones differently. Right now I'm on an ics Rom, about 6hours up, 56% left of battery with just under 2hrs screen on. Granted this is not the best ics rom for battery life but let's I was using say mimicry or elitemod ics, I would be @ maybe 65 @ most, with certain 2.x is be well over 70 right now
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Fair enough, but like I said we all use phones differently, and I will disagree that screen on time is meaningless being the most power is being used when screen is on. I'm sure I could have my phone on, with screen off, put it in airplane mode and let it sit for 3days to see it still has 30% (or whatever) juice left, no matter the os. But that dosent matter to me as I want my phone to last when I'm using it
Listen, you may get the best life out of ics or jb on your phone, I get better life on 2.x, I'm not saying these newer roms are inferior, I'm saying that one of the most important features is battery life to me and I have always gotten the best life in older operating systems. Having said that, I'm a flashaholic and I try nearly every Rom available for any phone I have. Mimicry is amazing, fast, stable, and pretty good battery life. If I absolutely need to be sure I have power left by the end of the day I'm not running mimicry (im a heavy user and the ways I use my phone it just isn't going to happen) and don't say I have bad apps with memory leaks and wake locks because I've been around long enough to know to test for all this. I don't use Many different apps and the ones I do use I know are good (and the same ones I use not matter the os)
Let's just agree you have different experiences with your phone as I have with mine, I'm not steering anyone away from using
Ics or jb, and ill continue to use thenm too. But I (not you) get bettery life with 2.x
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Fair enough, but like I said we all use phones differently, and I will disagree that screen on time is meaningless being the most power is being used when screen is on. I'm sure I could have my phone on, with screen off, put it in airplane mode and let it sit for 3days to see it still has 30% (or whatever) juice left, no matter the os. But that dosent matter to me as I want my phone to last when I'm using it
Listen, you may get the best life out of ics or jb on your phone, I get better life on 2.x, I'm not saying these newer roms are inferior, I'm saying that one of the most important features is battery life to me and I have always gotten the best life in older operating systems. Having said that, I'm a flashaholic and I try nearly every Rom available for any phone I have. Mimicry is amazing, fast, stable, and pretty good battery life. If I absolutely need to be sure I have power left by the end of the day I'm not running mimicry (im a heavy user and the ways I use my phone it just isn't going to happen) and don't say I have bad apps with memory leaks and wake locks because I've been around long enough to know to test for all this. I don't use Many different apps and the ones I do use I know are good (and the same ones I use not matter the os)
Let's just agree you have different experiences with your phone as I have with mine, I'm not steering anyone away from using
Ics or jb, and ill continue to use thenm too. But I (not you) get bettery life with 2.x
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Obviously battery life varies with the way you use your phone. If you're ever interested in trying JB again, definitely give the test builds a shot. Remember to do a full wipe though, I assume you do anyways. I was shocked at how much the JB test builds improved battery life and responsiveness compared to the Virtuous G-lite I was using for a while.
well thats somewhat a relative point. you see when i consistently get (im picking #s here) 24hrs of battery use with 6 of those hours being screen on time with 2.x. then i compare the use of 4.x where i consistently get 18hrs of use with 4hrs screen on.
this compares not only the screen on time but also the overall time the phone lasts between charges. i feel most people comparing batteries understand that this is over a course of time and that the first day they flash a new rom will not give the best overall picture of what the battery consumption level is.
true the most power consumption is happening when the screen is on, but noting the amount of screen on time along with how long the battery lasts (consistently) will give anyone a good idea of whats going on. see if there is a day that i use my phone less, the battery tends to last longer (you get that) noting how long screen on time is gives a general picture of how frequently the phone is used that day.
also comparing what operating systems do in deep sleep is useful, again that hopefully is not the best way in determining battery life as you are lacking realworld use of the phone. yes its important to note, but like i said if i stuck the phone in a sock drawer for three days with the sim pulled and wifi off, i couldnt care much the results because my use of my phone will never be compared to it sitting in a sock drawer for any period of time.
so one of us is not getting the other, or there is some **** comparing going on over battery life testing. either way i say its best not to waste time and electronic ink over this. lets just say your right for the sake of i dont really care.
I've been in somewhat the same boat having gone back to CM7 many times for speed and stability. Mimicry was very nice but Skype would crash in it and it was an app that I always used. Now that Skype has made some major updates, I'm considering either installing Mimicry again or Jelly Baby. The latter is going to be updated soon from what I've been reading so I'll likely wait and try that.
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I've been in somewhat the same boat having gone back to CM7 many times for speed and stability. Mimicry was very nice but Skype would crash in it and it was an app that I always used. Now that Skype has made some major updates, I'm considering either installing Mimicry again or Jelly Baby. The latter is going to be updated soon from what I've been reading so I'll likely wait and try that.
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Honestly scrolling in cm7 looks laggish to me compared to flinnys don't know why . how is jelly baby compared to flinnys in terms of performance?
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Just my 2 pence but, frankly, any and every CM9.x/CM10.x rom I've ever tried on my DZ has been laggy/buggy after some time. On the other hand, the AOSP counterparts have ALWAYS been faster in general and didn't slow down, unlike CM. Hell, it was the same even with CM7 (with some exceptions, primarily ILWT CM7). This is obviously logical since CM has more things going on unlike AOSP which is pretty light on the feature side (nothing you can't take care of with a couple of apps, mind you). From my experience, CM9+ roms just don't work on the DZ. Whatever I do, they always end up slowing down to the point where I can't even use the phone. As for battery life...I don't have much to say in particular, it has always been below average whatever rom I was running (again with a few exceptions, like G-Lite).
Just as I said though, just my opinion so don't take my word for it.
Hey Everyone,
Okay.. getting ready to upgrade my GS2 to GS4, but have a couple of quick questions.
1. I read that the GS4 was laggy when it first came out. Has Sprint fixed that in the stock ROM? Or does sac's rom fix it?
2. I read remember reading something about a camera issue on the purple GS4. Is there still an issue with that?
Thanks,
EB
It's kinda laggy still with the latest official rom. Many people might disagree with that statement. The more apps you install, the more lag it gets. My opinion is, the biggest improvement you will notice is the screen size and much higher resolution. If you have 4g LTE in your area, you should notice much higher online speeds when compared to 4g wimax. Other than that, IMO, the other improvements are negligible. A stock battery will last longer on a s4 than the s2. I've only ran stock roms so I can't give you any opinions on them.
No lag on this phone but when I try different kernels I sometime get lag but when I go back to stock kernel I have no issuses. That's my experience with this phone I came from the s3
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Euclid's Brother said:
Hey Everyone,
Okay.. getting ready to upgrade my GS2 to GS4, but have a couple of quick questions.
1. I read that the GS4 was laggy when it first came out. Has Sprint fixed that in the stock ROM? Or does sac's rom fix it?
2. I read remember reading something about a camera issue on the purple GS4. Is there still an issue with that?
Thanks,
EB
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NO lag whatsoever for me. My phone is ripping fast. Have unbelieveable GPS (which I sorely lackes on my Epic 4GT). Have stupendous LTE (when I get it) and everything just works.
I have tried most of the ROMs here (Sac's and Triforce are great!). But I need my phone to 100% funtional for work so I'm usually on a stock (or slightly modded) TW ROM.
While my battery life is great (often over 24hours with about 50% of that screen time), I am not a battery life thumper - it's 2013 folks and you have a $500+ device; buy another damn charger or battery. I prefer stability, speed and smoothness; in that order.
There are a few really polished TW ROMs here and also some AOSP/CM variants that are really comming along. My only issues with the latter have been problems with GPS and sometimes even data - both of which I rely on heavily during my work days.
This phone, being a sammy is very similar to the e4gt. If you spend some time going through all the posts you will very quickly pick up on some of the differences. Biggest being that on this device the boot, recovery and kernal are all seperate images. So you kernel doesn't have to be 'wrapped' in a recovery, you can mix and match to your liking.
Jump in and have some fun.
Good luck.
Euclid's Brother said:
Hey Everyone,
Okay.. getting ready to upgrade my GS2 to GS4, but have a couple of quick questions.
1. I read that the GS4 was laggy when it first came out. Has Sprint fixed that in the stock ROM? Or does sac's rom fix it?
2. I read remember reading something about a camera issue on the purple GS4. Is there still an issue with that?
Thanks,
EB
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I recently made the same upgrade you're considering. While I loved my old E4GT the improvements in the GS4 are amazing and I love it. With that said it's not without it's issues, the lag you spoke of earlier is there sometimes it's not unbearable, but I definitely feel like Touchwiz is holding the hardware back (nothing the official CM wont fix!) battery life is fantastic, especially with Sacs rom. I get 20+ hours on a full charge, with heavy use it's more like <15. GPS locks fast, much faster than the Epic Touch and the screen is light years better.
I do notice this phone gets quite a bit warmer during regular use than the E4GT (which barely got warm, except for specific situations) but it's much better with Sacs rom than on stock.
All and all, you'll be happy with the upgrade and will not regret it.
Thanks for the info guys. I wiped my E4GT and put a tweaked stock on it (was CM10) and it actually fixed the GPS issues.. but now the phone reboots itself all the time and freezes and completely freaks out when i plug in my car charger... lol.. So this is a good excuse to upgrade..
Euclid's Brother said:
Thanks for the info guys. I wiped my E4GT and put a tweaked stock on it (was CM10) and it actually fixed the GPS issues.. but now the phone reboots itself all the time and freezes and completely freaks out when i plug in my car charger... lol.. So this is a good excuse to upgrade..
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I upgraded from an S2 to the S4 at the beginning of the summer. I mostly ran CM/AOKP based ROMS (usually BeanStalk or one of it's variants) on my S2, but after reading so many positive comments on the S4 forum about TW/Stock performance, I held off on flashing CM/AOKP and have been a very happy camper running Highway55's MF9 TW-based rom which I highly recommend (see my detailed post on the Highway55 rom thread that describes my basic configuration).
I don't notice any lag, and battery life has remarkably been improved over the S2. I hate to be tethered, so I always buy an extra battery. With my S2, I would swap my battery two or three times a day (I'm a heavy user), but with S4's remarkably improved battery peformance, I swap my battery maybe once or twice a week. GPS just works period. LTE is amazingly fast. This phone rocks!