Odd Charging/Discharge behavior - Focus General

Leaving the Phone in USB Tether mode, it may not charge.
Today my Focus was down to about 20% charge remaining. I hooked it to the computer and it indicated it was charging. I came back a few hours later expecting to see it close to fully charged. It was showing the charge indication, but it was also showing it was almost completely discharged. (The battery icon flips back and forth from the charge icon the the current battery charge icon) I pulled the usb cable and it immediately told me the battery was critically low.
I put the USB cable back in, hooked it to the AC adapter this time and it showed it was again in charge mode.
I opened the diagnostic for the battery, *#2*#, and it showed 4% charge.
I removed the battery and it was not hot. I reinserted the battery and in the past few hours I am showing 67% charge now. I also had left the USB tethering option in there from yesterday, so I set it back to Zune and the phone rebooted for that. The battery is not very warm.
I don't know what to think. It looks like leaving it in USB Tether after i tried that yesterday might have caused it to refuse to take a charge in spite of showing the charge indicator. If anyone else has put theirs in USB Tether and not switched it back to Zune afterwards, I would like to know if it will really charge being left in that USB Tether mode.

Not odd at all. In the past, Samsung WM phones are known to disable charging when in USB modem mode.

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phone thinks it is charged.

I dont know what caused this to happen, because i havent flashed anything new on my phone or made any changes for like a week now, but today when i got home from school and plugged in my phone, a few seconds later i get the messaged telling me that it is fully charged, even though the battery on the status bar says it is at 20%. i tried wiping the battery stats in cwm but it didnt fix it.
Possibly dirty usb port/connector. Otherwise, turn the phone off to charge it. If it still doesn't charge right, it could be that the battery went bad.
oh lol i cant believe i didnt realize this. i just got a new keyboard and i had my phone charger plugged into the usb port that is on the back of they keyboard, i shouldve known it cant charge off of that i was being stupid hah. plugged it into the computer and it works fine.
thefunkbot said:
oh lol i cant believe i didnt realize this. i just got a new keyboard and i had my phone charger plugged into the usb port that is on the back of they keyboard, i shouldve known it cant charge off of that i was being stupid hah. plugged it into the computer and it works fine.
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The phone will say it is charged when you plug it into a USB port with too low of a current rating.
I do not know what the cutoff threshold is, however I have a variety of USB ports and adapters that I charge my phone off of and some of them work great, but a couple of them have extremely low current ratings and the phone just says "charged" because it is not seeing enough power go into the battery.
This might be considered a bug, if there was a way for the hardware / charging drivers to measure the strength of the USB port the phone is attached to instead of solely looking at the current flowing into the battery.
Hrm. Weird that it would report charged when it doesn't get enough current to properly charge.
On a related note - I would also recommend doing a deep drain / charge cycle about once per month, to calibrate the battery charge sensor.
- Charge your phone to 100%.
- Then discharge it down to 0%.
- Then charge it back up to 100% via the OS.
- Turn the phone off, and keep it plugged in to the charger. A green battery icon will appear, and indicate when the battery is fully charged to 100%.
- Reboot the phone into recovery, and wipe battery stats.
Doing this about once per month for any Li-Ion battery will help calibrate the battery charge sensors on the device, giving you more accurate battery charge stats.

Charger supports but does not charge.

Hi,
I'm having this weird problem, maybe it's just a setting, but let me explain:
I connect the Flipout to my PC using the original USB and you can choose "charge, read memory, etc..."... anyways, the phone charges (the battery indicator jumps from left to right and eventually fills up).
However, I use the same USB on the original wall-charger then the battery changes to an "electric shock", and the wall-charger "supports" the phone (the battery does not drain), but does not charge. So if you got 50%, you will stay on 50% battery.
I connected the phone to the wall charger having 0% for about a half hour, and the phone is still no 0% (start on-screen).
When I unplug the charger, then I get a pop up saying "charger disconnected - save energy and plug out the charger from the wall".
So, what's wrong? The phone recognizes the charger, but it does not charge...
Greetings.

Transformer Wont charge!!

ive had it for a month and a half and now its doing this, plug in the charger to the tablet and nothing. ive tried with different outlets aswell ive checked my power adapter to see if its one of the effected ones but mine was a pre assembled one. ive also restarted the tablet with no luck. time to call asus?
Do you have another device that charges by usb, that you could plug in to see if it sees anything for power? Not sure on the usb pinout for our chargers, but if someone knows, you could use a voltmeter to probe it and see if it has any output.
k got it charging now, hooked it up to my pc with the usb cord to see if the cord or the socket is shot, still connected to my pc....but it reinstalled device drivers as if i never used it on my pc. i turned usb debugging on then off, then i unplugged it and put the cable back into the power adapter and its charging
this is concerning, seems like a usb driver issue that effects the port not sure if i should call asus and do something about it
Sorry to bring this up but I started noticing this today too. I've had mine for about a month and everything's been fine. I noticed that the battery was in the 30s so I plugged it in via the a/c adapter and neither my battery widget nor the system battery icon change to the "charging state". I shut the device off to see if it would charge quicker and left it off for what must have been an hour and the battery has only increased by about 7%. I'm timing it now to see how long it takes.
This happened to me this morning. I couldn't get the tablet or the dock to charge. The dock was at 3% and the tablet at around 75%. Neither would charge either singly or together. I tried using a normal 5v USB charger for a few minutes, but without success. Then I fiddled with the charger and uncoupled the 3 pin UK adaptor. It then started charging. I'm not sure if it was coincidence or not, but at the moment it's working.
B50K tablet and B50K dock.
I have a B50 also running the newest firmware via Revolver 1.1.1, I just booted up my TF after an hour of it being off and connected to the A/C outlet to see how much it had charged. It increased 2% in the past 70 minutes. Something's Fishy here.
did u guys try method of hookin to your pc, then turn on usb debugging.
i havnt had any issues recharging since this thread was made
I connected it to the computer a few times and USB Debugging was already on, I just turned it off and I'll try and connect it again but I'm currently backing up stuff with CWM.
Edit: I just cycled USB Debugging a few times while it was connected to my PC. XP (virtualized through Arch Linux) recognized it each time, but still no change in the charging status. I'm going to unroot and go back to the stock 3.1 to see if it's a software or hardware problem.
Edit: seems to be a hardware problem considering I reflashed it back to stock (unrooted) and it's still doing it. Awesome.
Same problem here. All of a sudden I didn't see any status from the dock battery (dual battery widget). Tablet charges just fine, but the dock won't charge. even left it connected to charger overnight but the dock led just keeps blinking orange (/red). I'm afraid the dock will have to go RMA.
Just got an email back from Asus and they told me to fill out an RMA. It'd be nice if I got one out of the B70 batch as a return
edit: sadly, that didn't fix it. I re-rooted, let the battery drain down until it turned off and wouldn't turn back on, then let it charge for 2 hours. I turned it back on and the battery was at 5%

[Q] Critical battery icon showing when powered on.

I left my phone charging overnight via the wall charger. Battery registered at 1% when I started the charge.
When I woke up this morning I had a large low battery icon on the screen and the phone won't turn on. I disconnected the charge, tried charging with another charger but everytime it shows the SAMSUNG logo, then the large low battery icon.
I tried removing the battery, cleaning the charger port terminals, swapped out different USB cords, everything but a hard reset.
No matter what I do the phone will not start up.
Has anyone experienced this before, or possibly no how to resolve it?
mfarlow said:
I left my phone charging overnight via the wall charger. Battery registered at 1% when I started the charge.
When I woke up this morning I had a large low battery icon on the screen and the phone won't turn on. I disconnected the charge, tried charging with another charger but everytime it shows the SAMSUNG logo, then the large low battery icon.
I tried removing the battery, cleaning the charger port terminals, swapped out different USB cords, everything but a hard reset.
No matter what I do the phone will not start up.
Has anyone experienced this before, or possibly no how to resolve it?
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Happened to me several times (on both my focuses Rogers and AT&T), and I came to the conclusion it's a bug somewhere in the phone or the battery. I'm not sure exactly where the problem is (software, hardware) but I can tell you how I fixed it.
What happens is, the battery is almost depleted, it actually is 1%. The phone incorrectly reads that thinks it's charged fully and doesn't allow further charging the battery. So, you're not able to charge the battery correctly.
Now, as I previously stated in some other posts, I recommend having a standalone charger (Samsung i9000 ones are compatible are very cheap) as well as a secondary battery. The depleted battery gets charged fine in the standalone charger and when it passes 5% charge, it can be charged fine (again) in the phone.
This doesn't happen often, I believe it happened 5 times in more than 300 charging cycles (2 phones x 150 charges, I have them for over a year) so it's not that common.
I also found that it *may* work if you charge the battery in another phone.
As a general thumb rule, it's important not to leave the battery to completely discharge, and connect the charger/usb when it reaches about 40% (when you can, ofc). Please refer to my post here to see how you can preserve battery life.

Phone doesnt reliably charge when connected to PC

Anyone else notice the phone randomly doesnt charge when plugging it into the computer?
The battery will say charging, the lock screen will say charging, but the battery screen will say not charging and the graph will show a green charging line but draining battery. Replugging the phone in fixes it. I havent had an issue with the wall charger.
Theres nothing wrong with the USB ports, it charged my other phone fine and it charges this phone when it works.
my N4 charges fast when I plug it to my laptop. I connect it to my USB 3.0 port..
PCs aren't designed to charge phones. It may work for a dumbphone with a 500 mAh battery, but it doesn't have the amperage to charge a smartphone efficiently. The charging adapter that comes with the phone is 1200 mA (milliamps), a computer USB port only provides 500 mA (on USB 2.0). On USB 3.0, it provides 900 mA, so it will charge faster, but not nearly as fast still as the 1.2 amp travel adapter.
On top of this, the phone is constantly using battery power while on, so it is very likely that when the screen is on and you are using the phone plugged into the computer, the phone is drawing power faster than the computer is charging it.
MusicMan374 said:
PCs aren't designed to charge phones. It may work for a dumbphone with a 500 mAh battery, but it doesn't have the amperage to charge a smartphone efficiently. The charging adapter that comes with the phone is 1200 mA (milliamps), a computer USB port only provides 500 mA (on USB 2.0). On USB 3.0, it provides 900 mA, so it will charge faster, but not nearly as fast still as the 1.2 amp travel adapter.
On top of this, the phone is constantly using battery power while on, so it is very likely that when the screen is on and you are using the phone plugged into the computer, the phone is drawing power faster than the computer is charging it.
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That is not what Im talking about. It says charging everywhere except the battery screen where it says not charging, that is obviously a bug. A computer can power a phone fine anyways, they are made to be powered by a USB port.
idividebyzero said:
That is not what Im talking about. It says charging everywhere except the battery screen where it says not charging, that is obviously a bug. A computer can power a phone fine anyways, they are made to be powered by a USB port.
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Mine says charging and shows charge icon when connected via USB
idividebyzero said:
That is not what Im talking about. It says charging everywhere except the battery screen where it says not charging, that is obviously a bug. A computer can power a phone fine anyways, they are made to be powered by a USB port.
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I had this problem today. The battery was dying fast (Average for this one) and I had popped it into my stereos USB, The battery didn't show the charging sign.
WTF? So I switched to the "Cigarette lighter port" and with a different cable plugged that in. No go. Held in the power button to simulate a battery pull, Still didnt work.
Turned it off, Went back to work and three hours later getting ready to drive home i plugged it in. The phone was getting warm, But the battery charging sign never popped up. I turned it on and the left side (By the sim card) was getting ultra-hot but betterbatterystats said the battery was only feeling at around 101degrees (Normal for this small sun). A minute later it was highly uncomfortable to hold (Just near the sim card area), I thought the battery was going to catch on fire like those youtube videos.
I power cycled once again, the battery charging sign popped up and I breathed a huge sigh of relief. Seconds later the phone ****ing flipped its wig, It kept making the charger plugged in sound and vibrate every half second. I about had a stroke, Thinking it's going critical. ONE MORE POWER CYCLE, Everything is normal.
My earlier experience seemed similar to yours OP, Let me know if your phone melts your hand off and goes all bi-polar like mine did.
I'm having the same problem. It has nothing to do with a computer not being powerful enough to charge it, especially when they aren't even being used such as overnight. It has charged every other smartphone that I've used. It will say that it is charging on the lockscreen and on the settings pulldown but it will just constantly drain battery. I will put it on the charger before bed and wake up 8 hours later and it says it is at 86% with a steady decline in battery. This only happens when connected to my iMac and not when plugged into a wall outlet.
I wouldn't think USB 3.0 improves the charging speed at all, since the protocol still uses USB 2.0
I just remove all the cables and replace them. It seems to solve it.
Same with the AC adapter. I noticed sometime it would say charging USB when I switched. I just unplug everything and plug it back in and it goes back to normal.
/shrug
I havent noticed it getting warm, it just doesnt charge even though it knows its plugged in and is supposed to be charging. It works after replugging it in.
It also seems to charge abnormally slowly.
I wonder if the issue with the phone not working right with Nokia chargers (constantly disconnects and reconnects) is related to this. It may not have anything to do with the Qi standard because the phone just doesnt charge right period.

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