Coming from the cliq rooted with a 2.1 rom, atk was a necessity IMO.But ive hard that task killers are not needed with froyo and that it hurts more than it helps. But ive noticed that even with atk on froyo, apps aren't being killed unless I go to settings/applications/manage apps to force close myself. Ive tried just not force closing or killing apps and ive noticed it being a memory hog and decrease in performance and battery, but thats just my own personal testing.
What's your opinion on task killers and such? do I need it or am I better of without one?
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Coming from the cliq rooted with a 2.1 rom, atk was a necessity IMO.But ive hard that task killers are not needed with froyo and that it hurts more than it helps. But ive noticed that even with atk on froyo, apps aren't being killed unless I go to settings/applications/manage apps to force close myself. Ive tried just not force closing or killing apps and ive noticed it being a memory hog and decrease in performance and battery, but thats just my own personal testing.
What's your opinion on task killers and such? do I need it or am I better of without one?
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I am using "advanced app killer'. A number of stock apps will restart right after, but most others will not.
I use it right after starting up, and after closing some apps (they often keep running in background). I think this is helping materially with my battery life - which is fairly good.
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I am using "advanced app killer'. A number of stock apps will restart right after, but most others will not.
I use it right after starting up, and after closing some apps (they often keep running in background). I think this is helping materially with my battery life - which is fairly good.
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Thanks I will try that out. But yeah my battery life if pretty good when I really try haha. But yeah I've noticed apps just reopen, I guys I have to just get used to the froyo ways
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I couldnt find "advanced app killer" in the market. Is it elsewhere?
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not needed, just like gaww stated
A number of stock apps will restart right after
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is a horrible thing. the second u close an app and it instantly reopens itself your cpu shoots up 100% and you end up killing more battery by doing that.
Haven't seen the need for a task killer. I run System Panel app and what I'm seeing is the majority of the apps listed are on background and not taking up CPU power at all.
If anything, once I root, I'll probably use Autostarts just to minimize the number of apps that run at startup. But right now... not even necessary.
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not needed, just like gaww stated
is a horrible thing. the second u close an app and it instantly reopens itself your cpu shoots up 100% and you end up killing more battery by doing that.
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Total agrement here, ATK do more harm then good, There is really nothing good that it does.
30Glock said:
Total agrement here, ATK do more harm then good, There is really nothing good that it does.
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Iight makes sense to me!
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I'm so tired of this discussion to raise any of the many valid points why task killers are bad.... just don't use them lol.
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Hello,
I have a new, stock ROM Aria from AT&T. With a fresh boot, i run the task killer and i have a nice 178mb of free ram. But as the day goes on it gets lower and lower, 150, 115, 80, 25 free. What is eating it up? Cache?
Thanks!
-sp00nix
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Hello,
I have a new, stock ROM Aria from AT&T. With a fresh boot, i run the task killer and i have a nice 178mb of free ram. But as the day goes on it gets lower and lower, 150, 115, 80, 25 free. What is eating it up? Cache?
Thanks!
-sp00nix
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did you kill the tasks that keep opening by themselves...or ones you've used but arent using at the moment?
i run atk a few times a day
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did you kill the tasks that keep opening by themselves...or ones you've used but arent using at the moment?
i run atk a few times a day
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i set it to autokill on sleep, theres only 1 app running which is the advanced task killer. When you manually kill them with the widget it reports the memory usage.
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i set it to autokill on sleep, theres only 1 app running which is the advanced task killer. When you manually kill them with the widget it reports the memory usage.
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hey thanks i didnt even know that was a setting.
sorry i dont know the answer to your original Q
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hey thanks i didnt even know that was a setting.
sorry i dont know the answer to your original Q
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It's cool, you learned something
Something i remembered, on my Archos 5 Advanced task kill reports on value and its built in task manager reports another, usually higher. Maybe this is a similar case. Ill try another piece of software.
Not a good idea to use a task killer as it'll actually wear our battery down faster. Anyways unused RAM is wasted RAM.
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Idk about all that. My battery is much happier keeping apps under control that are data hungry.
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Idk about all that. My battery is much happier keeping apps under control that are data hungry.
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depends on frequency of kill and what you are killing really
Hey guys. Does the HTC Legend automatically close programs after pressing the home button or the "backarrow"? My Legend seems to get slower when i've had a lot of programs open?
I've heard about some Androids which doesn't do it.
Android does it. So all Android devices will kill tasks eventually. Pressing the back button until you're back at the homescreen will ensure that the app is closed properly. If you press the home button it will "minimize" the app, and it will run in the background. If you have apps in the background then Android will eventually kill them when it needs the memory. Don't use a task killer.
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TheGrammarFreak said:
Don't use a task killer.
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Why not? I use it on occasion, I's good to have a controll over your phone, plus I'm not sure how android handles turning those apps off when screen is turned off...So by killing before turning screen-off should preserve battery...no?
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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relly interesting issue.
many thanks i'll aply from now
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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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Well, its a much-debated issue. But in my personal experience, if I dont use task-killers, my legend becomes too sluggish. I would recommend all Legend users to use one.
In my personal opinion, Relying on Andoid's own task management might be ok for high end devices with more RAM. but not for devices with low memory like legend.
Same here but after 2-3 days even task killers don't work, only rebooting works
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I haven't used a task killer on my Legend in 5 months, and it never gets sluggish. Regardless of whether ir not I use CM.
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Same here but after 2-3 days even task killers don't work, only rebooting works
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That's the only proper way to do it:L Ya, i restart my phone once a day and it never gets really sluggish!
I barely ever reboot my phone.
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It's really an interesting read, and although I have Taskiller installed, I rarely use it. But a thing I've observed is that when I run Quadrant benchmark and kill before, I usually get lower score... it is some time ago I learned this... Apparently there is something to it
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I haven't used a task killer on my Legend in 5 months, and it never gets sluggish.
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I don't use a task killer either and have only noticed my phone get sluggish once after the 2.2 upgrade. In that case it was some app which was being stupid.
Long press the back button while exiting an app...it kills the app...u will never need a taskiller (might not work on stock rom)
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Long press the back button while exiting an app...it kills the app...u will never need a taskiller (might not work on stock rom)
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Only on CM
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Some say it helps some says it does nothing
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No... No.....
I get better battery life without it.
Don't use it for any version. Android has its own management and frees memory as needed. The only way it'll help battery is if you need to close a rogue app causing drain. For this use Samsung task manager or system panel.
Thanks for the info
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Anyone know if it's possible to remove the TouchWiz 2.2 Task Manager via Titanium Backup for example (or another method if possible), without repercussions to the stability of my phone?.. If someone could answer this or direct me elsewhere it would be greatly appreciated. I figured I would use this thread as an opportunity to plug another question as I was also curious about the OP's question too.
I choose to use the advanced task killer on the market on auto kill, while I know it's not necessarily needed for Android with JIT I feel the freed memory launches apps more quickly. It might just be mental but it's always done good by me so I use it
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Some say it helps some says it does nothing
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Unless you're using Android 1.x, there's no reason to use a task killer.
Removed mine, thanks for the info.
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I choose to use the advanced task killer on the market on auto kill, while I know it's not necessarily needed for Android with JIT I feel the freed memory launches apps more quickly. It might just be mental but it's always done good by me so I use it
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I use it too and increased my battery life. Now I use only about 1% battery drain per hour of none use.
you dont need to remove it unless if its like a AUTO killer.
I keep ATK advanced task killer on my app list.
I mean who knows when a apps just gonna go crazy on me?
and the Android Task Manager doesn't see all the apps so... thats lame, i keep mine, but use it when a app is like freezing/slowing me down
Agree while in general task killers are not needed on 2.2+, there are some applications that still missbehave and need a force kill to function properly again. Personally I just use the stock Samsung task manager and widget, which does not mess with any system services.
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I hate atk, but I do use the task manager that is included in the roms I flash. I use the task manager ONLY when an application freezes or doesn't operate correctly.
I've removed mine through Titanium. If you're uncomfortable just freeze it.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
hey so my gf has a desire z mostly because I convinced her android is the way to go, and she loves it, but recently she has been frustrated because every once in a while, usually when she uses the default messaging app or widget, it will slow way down and/or freeze, and take a few minutes to sort itself out, I suggested try handcent cause it may clean that up, but since then it has continued to happen, any suggestions? thanks!
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hey so my gf has a desire z mostly because I convinced her android is the way to go, and she loves it, but recently she has been frustrated because every once in a while, usually when she uses the default messaging app or widget, it will slow way down and/or freeze, and take a few minutes to sort itself out, I suggested try handcent cause it may clean that up, but since then it has continued to happen, any suggestions? thanks!
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Rooted? Over clocked? What rom?
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hey so my gf has a desire z mostly because I convinced her android is the way to go, and she loves it, but recently she has been frustrated because every once in a while, usually when she uses the default messaging app or widget, it will slow way down and/or freeze, and take a few minutes to sort itself out, I suggested try handcent cause it may clean that up, but since then it has continued to happen, any suggestions? thanks!
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Reboot with pulling the battery out? Many apps on it?
If you're unsure whats causing the slowdown, I'd download Watchdog Lite and see what apps are taking up the most CPU/RAM and see if removing or fixing issues with these apps will change anything.
I haven't done anything extra for her to it, no rooting, all she has done is the ovta 2.2.1 update and download apps, just simple ones like backgrounds, schedules/notes, and games, and okay thanks I'll try downloading that app to see
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When having that version of Android I had some slow downs when using animated wallpapers, they clogged the memory also until it froze. Using normal, steady backgrounds took care of it.
I also have advanced task manager installed (free from market), it has a widget, clicking on it frees memory and speeds up the phone.
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I like the wallpaper idea but I have heard from many places that task killers use more battery cause most apps will just start up again, but if it stops the freezing maybe it's a necessary trade off
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Yeah, Froyo is supposed to be much better with ram management so task managers are not required. Its very likely to be a misbehaving app in the background.
Failing that, factory reset to rule out an failed ota.
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How many text messages does she have on the phone? I think this is a known issue, for people with a ridiculous mount of SMS messages.
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I like the wallpaper idea but I have heard from many places that task killers use more battery cause most apps will just start up again, but if it stops the freezing maybe it's a necessary trade off
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Don't use task managers. They're unnecessary and like you said can hurt more than they help more often than not.
Check out an app like Watchdog, that doesn't kill anything it'll just show you if something is eating too much CPU, so you can remove or change it. Also, lots of messages or long long threads can slow it down too.
so I got her to use watch dog and she just texted me saying that it popped up and messaging was over the cs threshold, and I do think she has a ton of messages, I'll tell her that deleting them could fix it, thanks!
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so I got her to use watch dog and she just texted me saying that it popped up and messaging was over the cs threshold, and I do think she has a ton of messages, I'll tell her that deleting them could fix it, thanks!
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You can customize what the threshold is. I think its like 20% or 30% by default. Kinda surprising that very rarely happens. If she deletes all messages and it still happens I'm really not sure.
She has a desire z. Its sense slowing it down. Not android. I remember this happening to me when i use to have it. Root that badboy and slap cyanogen mod on it. I can guarantee you it'll be waaay faster, not to mention the battery life will be better.
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She has a desire z. Its sense slowing it down. Not android. I remember this happening to me when i use to have it. Root that badboy and slap cyanogen mod on it. I can guarantee you it'll be waaay faster, not to mention the battery life will be better.
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While the Sense launcher is a bit laggy and resource hungry, it sounds like the OP has something going on far beyond just Sense. Sense itself does not cause the Messaging app to lockup for minutes, and it seems to be a problem that has developed over time.
My personal preference is "System Monitor". It doesn't kill anything and does everything watchdog and a little more. It costs tho
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While the Sense launcher is a bit laggy and resource hungry, it sounds like the OP has something going on far beyond just Sense. Sense itself does not cause the Messaging app to lockup for minutes, and it seems to be a problem that has developed over time.
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Trust me i know what im talking about. Its happened to me before. I've seen it happen when my friend lend me his evo. The messaging app is garbage on sense.
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just talked to her so she can delete her 5000 built up messages, she says she likes sense though...i am not a fan but what ever lol
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just talked to her so she can delete her 5000 built up messages, she says she likes sense though...i am not a fan but what ever lol
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5000? holy ****...
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Trust me i know what im talking about. Its happened to me before. I've seen it happen when my friend lend me his evo. The messaging app is garbage on sense.
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You were previously talking about flashing CM7. If the HTC SMS app is indeed the problem, you don't need to flash a new ROM to get away from it. Yes, the HTC SMS app is not great, but neither is the stock AOSP one. I've been using the stock Sense ROM for the most part since December, with Chomp SMS and see absolutely no slow down. Plus, I've tried CM7 and other ROMs, and there is no significant affect on battery life. If the OP's GF wants to stay on Sense, its really overkill to recommend ROM flashing. Its pretty apparent from the most recent posts deleting some messages will likely fix the problem.
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just talked to her so she can delete her 5000 built up messages, she says she likes sense though...i am not a fan but what ever lol
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5000 is a bit much. If its just a case of not being bothered to delete old messages (I have the same problem, but delete in the hundreds still) I could recommend the "Delete old messages" function which will automatically keep the thread down to size.
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Does anyone use them?
Heard from some guys at verizon they can actually be bad for your device not sure if I believe that so what is your opinion ?
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Care to explain why they're bad for your device?
As yes, I use them
Well he said on newer devices they can slow them down , I was super convinces by this either
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It does more bad than good. Its forcing applications to be removed from the memory. Which is uneeded as android will handle its own memory there is no need for you to use a task killer. When you clear apps from the recent apps list.. that does the same thing as a task killer.. but natively. It will remove the apps from the background and will indeed stop them. Dont worry about task killers.
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It does more bad than good. Its forcing applications to be removed from the memory. Which is uneeded as android will handle its own memory there is no need for you to use a task killer. When you clear apps from the recent apps list.. that does the same thing as a task killer.. but natively. It will remove the apps from the background and will indeed stop them. Dont worry about task killers.
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So use or not to use?
You can use it.. Am using it with any problems..
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So use or not to use?
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Really... No, that whole post was the reason why. its still up to you to decide.. but i vote no.
Nice yea I'm feeling no just wanted community opinion
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Exactly what ÜBER said, task killers are a no-no.
In theory they slow your device down, cause extra battery drain and are not needed since eclair 2.1.
They remove running services which the device loads back up into memory again using CPU cycles which uses battery.
Leave android handle all memory, it has had a major overhaul since it was first created.
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